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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TrumpWonNoBS/status/1341406987586822148Dec 24 00:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TrumpWonNoBS: @schestowitz Two false statements in one headline. President Trump is not ruining the environment nor is he leaving… https://t.co/IYtzVYbda9Dec 24 00:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TrumpWonNoBS: @schestowitz Two false statements in one headline. President Trump is not ruining the environment nor is he leaving… https://t.co/IYtzVYbda9Dec 24 00:00
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/12/peb-confirms-that-candidates-will-not.html?showComment=1608473211190#c5392503689488115486Dec 24 08:09
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | PEB (seems to) confirm that candidates will not be disqualified for writing during the time allocated for screen breaks and upload time - The IPKatDec 24 08:09
schestowitz"Dec 24 08:09
schestowitzI'm not inclined to be quite as generous as some other commenters regarding Sarah's apology. It came late, only following an unprecedented level of criticism, and appeared reluctant in its tone. And if Sarah's suggestion that the PEB were intending to discipline candidates had been correct, presumably the PEB would not have been willing to forgo such discipline just by candidates apologising? Dec 24 08:09
schestowitzSarah has shown herself repeatedly to be unfit to be involved in PEB exams - she has poor judgement and appears to typify the stubborn, arrogant, and jobsworth attitude of the PEB. It appears almost a bad joke that she's involved in P6 infringement and validity exams, given her clear ineptitude at assessing infringement.Dec 24 08:09
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schestowitz"Congratulations" with your pyrrhic victory - now no-one knowledgeable will comment at all. Thankfully, it is clear that no-one will be penalised. But surely a better outcome would be improvement in the communication? Dec 24 08:11
schestowitzIf it is the apology that you value most, you might need to self-reflect on why. The patent world attracts a lot of people focussed on being right, never admitting mistakes or being wrong, never admitting that they cannot do something. Assumes that they will never lose a case. But that can (and frequently does) lead to a burnout in the future. Dec 24 08:12
schestowitzYes, I am a patent attorney of many years who is still learning, frequently makes mistakes, and has lost a few cases :-)Dec 24 08:12
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schestowitzSarah on IPKat blog on Friday, 4 December 2020 at 10:16:00 GMT: "Finals candidates are usually a pass or fail regardless of the time taken because they either do or don't demonstrate that they know what they are doing."Dec 24 08:12
schestowitzSarah in her apology of 16 December: "As a Marking Examiner I have a view on the impact that the additional time may have on results and will be making these known to the Governance Board."Dec 24 08:12
schestowitzPresumably Sarah will be making known her views that the additional time is unlikely to have had any impact on the results.Dec 24 08:12
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schestowitzGraver Tank, once again you have spectacularly missed the point. You have already said that it is ridiculous to "demand" an apology from Sarah. So presumably, the criticism in your post above in relation to the inability to admit mistakes is directed to candidates and qualified attorneys. Literally no one is arguing this point in any way. For the last time, what everyone is riled up about is the Chief Examiner making irresponsible Dec 24 08:13
schestowitzstatements (and not as a one off). And why is this a pyrrhic victory? You think now we will not get any communication from the PEB? As others have said above, no information is preferable to misinformation.Dec 24 08:13
schestowitzRegarding your earlier comment that you have been "involved in teaching and making exams and evaluation tests for many years" I do hope you are not referring to PEB exams.Dec 24 08:14
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Techrights-sec2Merry ChristmasDec 24 12:37
Techrights-sec2https://areena.yle.fi/1-50632774Dec 24 12:37
Techrights-sec2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_PeaceDec 24 12:37
Techrights-sec2No crowds were allowed this year.Dec 24 12:37
Techrights-sec2https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/peace_declaration_marks_official_start_of_christmas_without_audience_amid_corona_crisis/1Dec 24 12:37
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-areena.yle.fi | Suomen Turku julistaa Joulurauhan | Suomen Turku julistaa joulurauhan | TV | Areena | yle.fiDec 24 12:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Christmas Peace - WikipediaDec 24 12:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/peace_declaration_marks_official_start_of_christmas_without_audience_amid_corona_crisis/1 )Dec 24 12:37
Techrights-sec2more on the history theme : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96sterlandDec 24 12:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Österland - WikipediaDec 24 12:37
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schestowitzA bit of a taboo opinion: less crowded is better. Better for the planet, we just need to focus on agriculture and breed a little less (not zero, that would mean extinction of the species... not that nature in general would mind that happening)Dec 24 13:36
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Techrights-sec2yeah, it's rather simple but nice and not lots of disorderDec 24 13:37
Techrights-sec2another tradition is the saunaDec 24 13:37
Techrights-sec2even the cat participates, though only for a short whileDec 24 13:37
Techrights-sec2she enjoys the heat but gets too hot quicklyDec 24 13:37
Techrights-sec2the carrying capacity of the planet is very much exceededDec 24 13:37
Techrights-sec2https://www.overshootday.org/Dec 24 13:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.overshootday.org | Earth Overshoot Day 2020 - Earth Overshoot DayDec 24 13:37
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schestowitzTMJ;drDec 24 13:38
schestowitzToo much JavaScript ;-)Dec 24 13:38
Techrights-sec2https://www.sciencealert.com/earth-overshoot-day-is-a-month-later-then-last-year-thanks-to-covid-19Dec 24 13:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.sciencealert.com | For The First Time in Years, Earth Overshoot Day Has Been Pushed to a Later DateDec 24 13:38
Techrights-sec2Too many sites are poisoned with JS these days.  It is job security for the Dec 24 13:39
Techrights-sec2"designers" and wasted electricity for everyone else, not to mention time and Dec 24 13:39
Techrights-sec2security.Dec 24 13:39
schestowitznot just security; they cause people to buy new machines to replace the "slow" onesDec 24 13:39
schestowitzhow long does a raspi3/4 last in normal condition? 10 years estimated to be achievable?Dec 24 13:40
schestowitzNow Wintel induced class insecurity and a sense of shame if you use an old machine. Same for phonesDec 24 13:41
Techrights-sec2Yes, Wintel boosters used to tell people to throw away their machine when it  Dec 24 13:42
Techrights-sec2filled up with Windows viruses and javascripts and thus became "too slow"Dec 24 13:42
Techrights-sec2One computer I use daily has survived since 2009 (knock on wood)Dec 24 13:42
Techrights-sec2That's not a raspberry piDec 24 13:42
Techrights-sec2The limiting factor with the RPi will be the microSD cardDec 24 13:42
Techrights-sec2That depends on the quality and the nature of the use, heavy writing willDec 24 13:42
schestowitz"ted", which died this March (you would remember), goes back to 2009 purchase by RianneDec 24 13:43
Techrights-sec2That depends on the quality and the nature of the use, heavy writing willDec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2wear out a cheap one fasterDec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2Yes, same for carsDec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2Witel sells based amost purely on an appeal to novelty.Dec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2And on sunk cost.Dec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2Both are logical fallacies.Dec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2There was a good article or two about why one should only purchase used machines.Dec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2There is a dude in town who does that.  Actually, I know of two.  I shouldDec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2contact both next time.Dec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2I have one machine from 2003 but I stopped using that one in 2016Dec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2It still works (AFAIK) but is in storage.Dec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2Mostly I have severl newish ones these days.  I hope they last as well as theDec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2older ones.  I see no reason to buy a new one unless to get away from x86 againDec 24 13:48
Techrights-sec2getting coffee...Dec 24 13:49
schestowitztoby (the old IRC bot developer, before Twitter cut off the APIs) said something about having to educate people about recycling and repurposing things. Chinese cheap labour makes the financial arguments weaker. Classic externalities; we "appeal to novelty" at the backs on people's hard work.Dec 24 13:51
Techrights-sec2Yes, there are some right-to-repair laws finally in place, in someDec 24 13:58
Techrights-sec2jurisdictions.   I think it is spreading but not yet at a tipping point.Dec 24 13:58
Techrights-sec2We reuse a lot.  Dec 24 13:58
schestowitzexcellent, maybe I can publish the write-up along with my own video (need to see if/how they blend)Dec 24 14:02
Techrights-sec2"durable" goods are another area of waste.  Like the notebook computers, Dec 24 14:14
Techrights-sec2refrigerators, washing machines, dryers, freezers, stoves, microwaves, etc,Dec 24 14:14
Techrights-sec2are designed (yes designed) to fall apart shortly after the warranty periodDec 24 14:14
Techrights-sec2ends.Dec 24 14:14
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