●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Sunday, April 25, 2021 ●● ● Apr 25 [09:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:10] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [09:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [09:10] *rianne_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) ● Apr 25 [10:49] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:49] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [10:49] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [10:49] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 25 [11:43] schestowitz__ Can we get 30:40-43:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocsrkya-Bfk [11:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | 1930s: Ford, GM, IBM, and the Nazis - YouTube [11:46] schestowitz__ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvk3_MfF7SA [11:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | Archives & Oddities: Hollerith - YouTube [11:46] schestowitz__ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMF6hirWXI8 [11:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | The Middle East Report - 20th Anniversary of IBM and the Holocaust - YouTube ● Apr 25 [12:19] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:20] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [12:36] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [12:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 25 [13:04] *ChanServ has quit (shutting down) [13:08] *ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has joined #boycottnovell [13:08] *barjavel.freenode.net gives channel operator status to ChanServ [13:24] schestowitz__ " [13:24] schestowitz__ I see this too, with RMS in particular singled out for ridicule and personal attacks. I admire Stallman. He is consistent and thoughtful, and it seems people forget how often he has been right. His mission has always been to further user freedom and rights-- what's not to like about that? He is right about Android, just like he was right about Tivoization, DRM and the loss of our rights with music, movies, books, and other [13:24] schestowitz__ creative media, software as a service as a GPL dodge, privacy issues, corporate control, and on and on. The statement that makes me saddest, that we hear all the time, is "people just want stuff that works and they don't care about all this freedom and privacy stuff." That is so not true. A lot of people care about those things, and it's silly to use that as a criticism of Stallman and the FSF. [13:24] schestowitz__ Yes RMS has his flaws, and he's not always right. Whaddaya know, that's true of everyone. [13:24] schestowitz__ https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Bad-mouthing-the-Free-Software-Foundation (Retrieved March 29, 2021.) [13:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linux-magazine.com | Bad-mouthing the Free Software Foundation Linux Magazine [13:32] *ChanServ has quit (shutting down) [13:34] *ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has joined #boycottnovell [13:34] *barjavel.freenode.net gives channel operator status to ChanServ [13:46] Techrights-sec I will look. [13:46] schestowitz__ cheers! [13:54] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:54] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) ● Apr 25 [14:32] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [14:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [14:47] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:47] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f203:8cff:fe93:1f55) has joined #boycottnovell [14:49] Techrights-sec (BTW http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/imprisonment-without-trial/ seems [14:49] Techrights-sec to have very little to do with FOSS, despite my agreement with the discussion [14:49] Techrights-sec topic and views expressed) [14:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Imprisonment Without Trial and Lynching by Government | Techrights [14:50] schestowitz__ Yes, I was trying to find something about attacks on him, without trial of due process, but it's only very remotely related ● Apr 25 [15:09] Techrights-sec I presume it would be part of the reasons for the attacks, but the main [15:09] Techrights-sec reason would be (IMO) his frequent use of the F-word, [15:10] schestowitz__ MinceR: he does stick to his spiel and "his guns"... and they cannot make him buckle, unlike others at the FSF [15:11] schestowitz__ I think that an internalised/veiled worry of theirs is that he'll make "copies of himself" and the ideas will spread like a virus unlike they demonise him as if he was eating babies [15:12] schestowitz__ very similar to what they did to wikileaks staff for that matter, the radical transparency approach wherein you publish without prior permission from the government [15:27] schestowitz__ 5:30-7:33 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMF6hirWXI8 worthwhile? [15:27] Techrights-sec I'll check in a bit. [15:30] Techrights-sec ERROR: cMF6hirWXI8: YouTube said: Unable to extract video data [15:30] schestowitz__ can you open it in a browser? I've just checked again the URL. [15:33] Techrights-sec In a browser, yes, getting it for conversion or edting, no. [15:33] schestowitz__ It is a new video, so maybe Google altered something in the format [15:34] MinceR :) [15:34] Techrights-sec They seem to do that frequently. The scripts are always needing updates and [15:34] Techrights-sec modifications to keep up. [15:35] schestowitz__ the only worthwhile thing about the clip is its recency, 2 months ago [15:51] schestowitz__ I will work on it manually... ● Apr 25 [16:46] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [16:46] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [16:49] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [16:50] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 25 [17:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:05] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:07] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [17:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [17:42] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:42] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:46] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell [17:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 25 [18:03] Techrights-sec I got it with another, slower, program. Cutting now. [18:03] Techrights-sec Ok. /home/boycottn/public_html/videos/x.webm [18:03] Techrights-sec Is that it_ [18:03] Techrights-sec ? [18:03] schestowitz__ I only managed to get an mp4 out of it (tried many things), will add the webm also now...