●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 ●● ● Oct 25 [00:33] schestowitz-TR2 good news, I'm off work till Sat [00:33] schestowitz-TR2 holiday belatedly approved ● Oct 25 [01:04] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [01:44] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 25 [03:00] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:21] techrights-sec[2] congratulations ● Oct 25 [04:50] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@raydbxn3n23s4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:54] techrights-sec[2] The video here: http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/rms-self-driving-cars/ [04:54] techrights-sec[2] needs to be deleted because it is corrupt. Neither the audio nor the video [04:54] techrights-sec[2] are viable. [04:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Self-Driving Cars and Microsofts Universal Back Door | Techrights [04:55] schestowitz-TR2 I tstedd in vlc and browsers [04:59] schestowitz-TR2 works in 7 media players and browsers here [04:59] techrights-sec[2] It does not work in VLC here. Can you please re-check it from your end? [04:59] techrights-sec[2] The file seems quite corrupt even though it is only one minute. [04:59] techrights-sec[2] I;ve tried re-downloading it. [04:59] techrights-sec[2] Try downloading it from TR ● Oct 25 [05:06] techrights-sec[2] No aspect of it works from here. :/ [05:06] techrights-sec[2] oh well [05:06] techrights-sec[2] checking [05:06] schestowitz-TR2 i even can stream it in vlc using the url [05:06] schestowitz-TR2 did any prior clips of thhis kind have the same issue? [05:07] techrights-sec[2] This one seems to be wholly missingth evideo link: http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/libre-software/ [05:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Libre Software | Techrights [05:07] techrights-sec[2] this one seems completely ok: http://techrights.org/2022/09/14/rms-books/ [05:07] techrights-sec[2] . [05:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Privacy-Respecting Book Loaning | Techrights [05:08] schestowitz-TR2 maybe the way I use ffmpeg is not just sub-optimal but bad [05:08] schestowitz-TR2 I think it slips it without re-encodingf [05:08] schestowitz-TR2 the fast and distry way [05:08] schestowitz-TR2 but it never caused problems at my end [05:08] techrights-sec[2] probably [05:21] techrights-sec[2] Well a spot check of the last three shows there may be something severly wrong [05:21] techrights-sec[2] with the work flow. However, be that as it may, is there a URL for today's [05:21] techrights-sec[2] talk in India by RMS? [05:21] schestowitz-TR2 just the introduction in text [05:21] schestowitz-TR2 but no video [05:22] techrights-sec[2] Too bad. I would like to find out what his topic is and how he covered it. [05:22] schestowitz-TR2 the talk is about 7 hours from now [05:22] schestowitz-TR2 I reproduced the talk's abstract last night [05:24] techrights-sec[2] yes. I saw. It seems that just 3 - 4 years ago institutions were much [05:24] techrights-sec[2] better at streaming. ● Oct 25 [06:06] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). [06:07] *Now talking on #boycottnovell [06:07] *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social [06:07] *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021 [06:07] *roy_techrights (~schestowitz_log@pq3xyyer8mdca.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:07] *rianne_ (~rianne@pq3xyyer8mdca.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:09] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 25 [07:28] techrights-sec[2] By the way, Chromium-based web browsers block access to https://techrights.org/ [07:28] techrights-sec[2] with no means of allowing the self-signed certificate through. [07:28] techrights-sec[2] Given what Baker is doing to Mozilla it is a matter of time before Firefox [07:28] techrights-sec[2] also fully blocks self-signed certificates. From what I recall, Let's Encrypt [07:28] techrights-sec[2] never got recognition as a Certificate Authority and are still using a dual [07:28] techrights-sec[2] CA as a temporary work-around which seems to have become kind of permanent. [07:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights [07:32] schestowitz-TR2 got back to keyboard [07:32] schestowitz-TR2 all server went offline (reboot maybe) [07:32] schestowitz-TR2 lots to fix and test [07:32] schestowitz-TR2 brb [07:39] techrights-sec[2] checking servers, nothing triggered here so the outage must have been short [07:39] techrights-sec[2] about 1h30m ago HV turned over, same for the guests ● Oct 25 [08:00] *techrightsalpine4 (~techrightsalpine4@2y2jdjjk6mrgn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [08:11] schestowitz-TR2 oh, well done [08:11] schestowitz-TR2 the changes to cron persistent across startups/reboots [08:11] schestowitz-TR2 ipfs does not yet start automatically though, but that's OK [08:11] schestowitz-TR2 I think everything is back now [08:11] schestowitz-TR2 and the system updates apply following reboots, which were planned weeks ago [08:12] techrights-sec[2] excellent [08:12] techrights-sec[2] yes, that was a benefit and overdue [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 sorry I was slow to respond, just slept, got back, many terminals were 'dead' [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 regarding https, TR is never advertised with that protocol [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 some browsers try to be 'clever', even without extensions [08:22] techrights-sec[2] Chromium is not just 'some', it is like 85+ % of the market. [08:24] schestowitz-TR2 iirc, finfish from gemma group *german) is still around under some other name [08:24] schestowitz-TR2 regarding, chrom* if given a http:// domain or address [08:24] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: domain; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// domain ) [08:24] schestowitz-TR2 I hope it does not try to rewrite it [08:24] schestowitz-TR2 I heard tor browser used to do that [08:24] schestowitz-TR2 maybe also librewolf by default [08:24] schestowitz-TR2 *finfisher [08:47] techrights-sec[2] ack [08:49] schestowitz-TR2 I will open email tonight [08:49] schestowitz-TR2 latest thunderbird made it a lto faster to open [08:49] schestowitz-TR2 like a big issued 6-7 years after the problem started [08:49] schestowitz-TR2 and that gives temptation to break workflow again [08:49] schestowitz-TR2 by letting mail get in there [08:49] schestowitz-TR2 better done in bulk [08:49] schestowitz-TR2 esp. when some mail is not pleasant [08:49] schestowitz-TR2 e.g. copyright troll [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 re mood-swinging etc, a mechanical mindset/thinking (like working in garden, following routine) can help [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 but that very much depends on the root causes, e.g. chamical or outside factor [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 re covid-19, tonight or this afternoon we'll have more figures of mortality [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 i've looked forward to these for days already as they can help validate a hypothesis [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 Prince Sunak thinks money can solve everything, like carpenters with their nails and glue [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 I joked to rianne that all food would be just one penny because she found a large milk for that price [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 for a moment she though I was serious [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 Sunak is the one behind "eat out, help out" in summer 2020 (the spread of covid-19 was curbed) [08:58] techrights-sec[2] Sunak's appointment is not beneficial [08:59] schestowitz-TR2 my friend destroyed his heart with excessive or too hard exercise [08:59] schestowitz-TR2 he broke some rowing record and did not know it was ruining his main arteries [08:59] schestowitz-TR2 until this past February [08:59] schestowitz-TR2 when he experienced shock like never before (from the news, not any bodily event) ● Oct 25 [09:00] schestowitz-TR2 so what he thought made him younger and would elongate his life did the opposite [09:00] schestowitz-TR2 same with my dad and his diving (he only realised when it was too late) [09:00] schestowitz-TR2 there is ample literature on how athletes don't like long [09:00] techrights-sec[2] Tragic [09:00] schestowitz-TR2 and that depends on their discpline esp. intensity they subject themselves to [09:00] schestowitz-TR2 my philosophhy is, exercise but as less as it is enjoyable [09:00] schestowitz-TR2 *as long [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 (not so private:) [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 I have the following routines [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 stair climbing, very fast, sets of 5 floors [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 pushups/situps/lunges etc. (floor) [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 computer room: shotput ball various things, inc. squats and fast-box [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 no equipment, but after hiatus in lockdowns (2020, 2021) each time I returned to the gym [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 I could handle the machines OK [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 so loss of body mass or muscle erosion (like, from illness) is the main risk [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 I find walking and jogging routes around the stadium/academy [09:06] techrights-sec[2] planes are just nasty by every metric [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 and a shop to make it worth the journey [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 i keep hearing of unhealth people or people whose relatives are not healthy [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 (rubenerd, mastodon.technology's ash, some people I know in person) [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 which can mandate dangerous mingling with covidiots [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 or boarding planes where isolation is infeasible [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 sans the "sanitation theatre" [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 "leg room" is never an issue until you board a plane, where they already (iirc) patent [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 the stuffing of passengers in standing position to save space [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 not even military planes do this [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 "excuse me, you two people in the middle and aisle, I have to go pee, do you mind waking up and walk to the [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 aisle for me, once when I leave and then again when I get back? That would be greeeeeatttttt" [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 [holds breath for 5 mins and walks away from "scene of the crime"] [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 they call this "lifestyle", "seeing the world", and boast about "air miles" [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 like debt (not debit) cards that are made 95% of plastic but say "Gold" or "Platinum" on them [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 to stroke the egos of the likes of Zemlin, who barely knows how to restart a service let alone [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 deliver a presentation from his Mac PC without it getting jammed [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 people who look down on those who don't participate in these 'rituals' aren't worthy of enagement [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 let them find their other career-climbing losers to waste their lives with [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 apropos, social control media is a driver of this toxic culture [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 and takes it out of the classroom and the mall, shoving it into the home 24/7 [09:13] schestowitz-TR2 "the phone in the socket that never stops beeping" [09:13] techrights-sec[2] yep [09:13] techrights-sec[2] one improvement has been the cessation of smoking on the flights; [09:13] techrights-sec[2] the whole plane was otherwise filled with smoke such that the ceiling was [09:13] techrights-sec[2] hardly visisble [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 smoke in plane is a safety hazard [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 if someone cannot avoid a fag for 2-10 hours of flight, one is a junkie [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 and junkies don't belong on planes [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 we sat next to one for 5 hours, it was truly horrible and I wrote about it [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 btw, pay in academic has sunk and the atmosphere at the job became very bad [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 at one postdoc position I worked 10 hours a week and was paid just enough for bills and barely food [09:19] schestowitz-TR2 so they're eliminating jobs that don't resemlbe wage slavery, by lowing the pay and also making the job [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 less pleasant [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 they've taken disgnity out of teaching jobs; in hungary there was a 80,000-strong protest by teachers [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 Orban hates scholars and academia [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 those "f*ckers" don't vote for him, so "f*ck them!" [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 that protest was this week, I posted a link in irc about it minutes ago [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 it's not just us/gop issue [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 when I was intervewed her for postdoc job (last time, cirica 2012) one person was my phd mentor [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 and the other was some "business development" BS person. she knew NOTHING about science [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 it was just some useless "business" (so-called) person [09:20] schestowitz-TR2 like a university needs to juistify its existence now by making money! [09:21] techrights-sec[2] back then everyone who smoked more or less chain smoked for the duration of the [09:21] techrights-sec[2] flight [09:21] techrights-sec[2] yes academic pay is below minimum wage at least in the US and there the minimum [09:21] techrights-sec[2] is not even remotely livable [09:21] techrights-sec[2] then there are the terrible work conditions and irrelevant make-work tasks [09:21] techrights-sec[2] thrown on top of the real tasks [09:21] techrights-sec[2] you're lukcy these days if the job is only 'less pleasant' most workplaces [09:21] techrights-sec[2] aim to have a downright unpleasant and nasty environment. [09:21] techrights-sec[2] 3 [09:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:22] techrights-sec[2] yes you mentioned. they ruin everything like a business now: [09:22] techrights-sec[2] into the ground and ask for a bailout [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 that is an excellent analogy actually [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 similar to ones I tell my parents about [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 I keep reminding them my sinblings accomplish nothing [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 they waste their lives making a bunch of sociopaths richer [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 regarding dotcom, put aside ".com" and say tech or tech-fascism [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 aside from those milking off the taxpayers' teat, like Microsoft, [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 many companies perish atm [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 they never had a viable plan, just "many users" [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 Netflix, Spotify (layoffs) [09:28] schestowitz-TR2 Twitter "overstaffed" (no shit! Running a pile ofm JS shit takes that many staff???) [09:29] schestowitz-TR2 thewy don't even do any real moderation or assess appeal; they overturn nothing, just like gulag [09:29] schestowitz-TR2 and in youtube they strip sound or remove stuff autonmously (real sorry! not out fault!!! bad,, bad HEY HI) [09:29] schestowitz-TR2 (many "tech" companies, even large ones, don't even have their own infra to look after, they're overcharged [09:29] schestowitz-TR2 by bezos or gulag or -- for idiots -- a clusterfuck full of layoffs called "azure" -- whatever that is) [09:30] techrights-sec[2] thus the "underpants gnomes" meme [09:30] techrights-sec[2] in youtube, people have gotten copyright strikes for playing their own [09:30] techrights-sec[2] compositions as well as for playing classical pieces like Bach, Beethoven, etc [09:30] techrights-sec[2] Most "tech" companies don't produce anything and aim for a buyout / IPO [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 how to run youtube channel in "modern" GoogleTube: [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 1) don't have any music, just speech [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 2) never curse, no matter the context [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 3) don't touch certain subjects; if you do, make 25% of the video all about "YouTube Guidelines" to waste viewers [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 ' time and pray your foes won't twist your words out of context [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 4) don't expect money, even if your audience grows (reminder: spamnil 9 views in 9 days) [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 5) don't buy any equipment like lighting ane expensive camera/microphone gear; those WILL NOT pay for themselves [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 had long chat about related staff (kitchen talk) [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 this afternoon we might go check the nearby gym [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 to see how crowded it is at off-peak times [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 for next year, assuming we resume [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 not the same gym as before [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 iirc, offpeak membership is about 22.5 a month [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 maybe less for a pair [09:45] schestowitz-TR2 it's where the water polo team is training, two large pools [09:47] techrights-sec[2] ack ● Oct 25 [10:46] techrights-sec[2] more Mastodon clients for the Fediverse are now javascript-only, that [10:46] techrights-sec[2] sucks even more than before [10:46] techrights-sec[2] I think I'll just delete the last of the bookmarks over that [10:46] techrights-sec[2] to the various instances. So much for openness and inclusivity. [10:46] techrights-sec[2] They suck. [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 you understimate the "sucness" [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 the instance I moved tuxmachines to [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 not only wants JS [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 it also rejects many "modern" browsers [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 or does not render correctly [10:47] schestowitz-TR2 but I spend no time there [10:49] techrights-sec[2] I've been checking every other week from a few bookmarks, but no longer. [10:49] techrights-sec[2] There were *very* few links posted there anyway though sometimes independent [10:49] techrights-sec[2] searching could follow clues given in the comments to find stuff. Either way [10:49] techrights-sec[2] though it was very, very low yield. [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 everything feels low yield compared to a decade ago [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes I check the 12 or so static pages I have in a list for weekends [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 10 minutes spent for maybe 3 links [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 rss feeds are full of shit but fast to navigate [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 gulag noise is mostly stuff I already have direct feeds for [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 and not there is a level of indirection/spying in URLs [10:51] schestowitz-TR2 so I stopped refreshing that [10:54] techrights-sec[2] The way things are going with the browsers as VMs we should not have the world [10:54] techrights-sec[2] running Firefox or Chromium but simple Qemu or VirtualBox [10:54] techrights-sec[2] Compare to a decade ago, journalism has been abandoned and even back then it [10:54] techrights-sec[2] was kind of thin compared to the turn of the century. [10:54] techrights-sec[2] RSS is 100s of times faster to navigate than regular web access but still [10:54] techrights-sec[2] very very slow and time consuming to find anything worth quoting. [10:54] schestowitz-TR2 i have just been to the gym, checked the whole place upside down, in and out [10:54] schestowitz-TR2 it's not bad [10:54] schestowitz-TR2 at one point he suggested I "download the apo" for more info [10:54] schestowitz-TR2 I didn't say anything to that [10:55] techrights-sec[2] Which are the key resources you would want to use there? If I understand [10:55] techrights-sec[2] correctly you are big enough for waterpolo but that is probably too much [10:55] techrights-sec[2] lung exhaust all around. [10:57] schestowitz-TR2 I could probably do the goalkeeping as I did that since a little kid till 20 (in soccer though) [10:57] schestowitz-TR2 but I checked it not for the pools but for gym, showers etc. [10:57] schestowitz-TR2 you have reminded me I need to check for replies, if any, in mastodon [10:57] schestowitz-TR2 that always felt like a chore ● Oct 25 [11:03] schestowitz-TR2 just spent 5-10 mins checking comments [11:03] schestowitz-TR2 it was not time well spent [11:03] schestowitz-TR2 and thought me not much new [11:03] schestowitz-TR2 mostyl a lot of scrolling [11:03] schestowitz-TR2 irc is a lot more effective than these GUIs [11:13] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 arbitrary thought: in the early 2000s I wrote articles differently [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 those were articles based on other articles [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 because journalism existed [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 in my text file I'd add my references with excerpts from them [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 not it is difficult [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 as even if there is coverage of some issue, usually there is only one source for it [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 rianne told me this morning about sites she noticed were dying, inc. techrepublic (spam) [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 I gave her some more examples (she reads similar feeds to me) [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 she then mentioned what happened tio IPFire (licence infringment) [11:20] schestowitz-TR2 I said to her that a decade ago there would be article about it, but not anyore [11:21] schestowitz-TR2 journalism was harmed by "famred" social control media and now that it goes away many rush to other [11:21] schestowitz-TR2 things that ebb away [11:24] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-8ho.hqf.ullapj.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:25] techrights-sec[2] ack [11:58] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 25 [12:12] techrights-sec[2] Like forecast in the mid-1990s, the centralized nature of web-based publishing [12:12] techrights-sec[2] ensures that whole decades worth of material vanishes at the pull of a plug [12:12] techrights-sec[2] or the stroke of a key. Each site has one, and only one, copy. When that is [12:12] techrights-sec[2] gone, it does not matter how many people were using it or how important or [12:12] techrights-sec[2] relevant the material was, it is gone. [12:12] techrights-sec[2] With paper copies, those were distributed and the recipient could decide (legally) whether to preserve their copi [12:12] techrights-sec[2] es and for how long. [12:23] techrights-sec[2] So, as web sites fade away, it becomes more and more important for individual [12:23] techrights-sec[2] posts to stand on their own, with quotes and other supporting data self- [12:23] techrights-sec[2] contained as possbile. [12:37] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:53] schestowitz-TR2 sorry, fell asleep, got new data from ONS [12:53] schestowitz-TR2 spoiler: it's a shocker [12:53] schestowitz-TR2 grabbing alculator [12:53] techrights-sec[2] np [12:53] techrights-sec[2] ok [12:53] techrights-sec[2] ack ● Oct 25 [13:31] schestowitz-TR2 ffs [13:31] schestowitz-TR2 I think I see what the issue is with my site now [13:31] schestowitz-TR2 many CMS bits don't work at the back end or altogether [13:31] schestowitz-TR2 not just my blof [13:31] schestowitz-TR2 they probably "upgraded" PHP or something [13:31] schestowitz-TR2 maybe not as severe as I thought -- they're looking into it atm [13:45] schestowitz-TR2 i was right, it was php versions [13:45] schestowitz-TR2 seems to be settled now [13:45] schestowitz-TR2 they set my account to old compat mode [13:45] schestowitz-TR2 php is messy business [13:45] schestowitz-TR2 if you won't keep up (same w/ pyton3 btw), code needs to be rewritten and stuff [13:47] *parsifal has quit (connection closed) [13:47] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [13:47] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:47] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:49] techrights-sec[2] ack [13:49] techrights-sec[2] Fortunately perl5 is quite stable [13:49] techrights-sec[2] PHP will change (break) between point releases [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 static pages help overcome some of these changes [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes the cost of keeping a site offline become astronomical [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 as you need to rewrite a piece of software just to keep some ARCHIVES online [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 and some sites would rather shut down (go offline) than do this [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes you want to tell folks, slow down a bit, stop "innovating", you'e breaking people's workflows [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 and data far too often [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 society spends a lot of effort just chasing "latest version" [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 we covered this in techrights before [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 in passing at least [13:52] schestowitz-TR2 I still use jpilot in 2022 ● Oct 25 [14:01] schestowitz-TR2 no gym till the numbers improve a lot [14:01] schestowitz-TR2 they use "war", "inflation" and "politics" to pretent COVID-19 queries aren't relevant anymore: [14:02] schestowitz-TR2 Office for National Statistics (ONS): Deaths This Autumn 21% Higher Than Same Period Prior to COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/autumn-death-surge/ [14:02] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Office for National Statistics (ONS): Deaths This Autumn 21% Higher Than Same Period Prior to COVID-19 [14:29] schestowitz-TR2 rianne says the trains now charge extra one pound to have a physical ticket for thew train [14:29] schestowitz-TR2 and no fee if you use "app" [14:29] schestowitz-TR2 f*cers [14:29] schestowitz-TR2 they call it "green" [14:30] schestowitz-TR2 to carry around a high-powered device [14:30] schestowitz-TR2 and conflict minerals used to asdsemble the darn thing [14:30] schestowitz-TR2 ridiculous [14:30] techrights-sec[2] ack [14:31] techrights-sec[2] Not just high powered but very electricity-hungry. Those need to be charged [14:31] techrights-sec[2] several times per day, not per week, per day. [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 riaqnne is livid [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 this wasn't like this just 2-3 months ago [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 she wants to visit the aunt after cancer operation [14:32] techrights-sec[2] Well of course she's livid, they are lying to her. [14:34] schestowitz-TR2 this sounds like a better option [14:34] schestowitz-TR2 here, they charge 7.50 to post the ticket to you [14:34] schestowitz-TR2 or you pay 1 pound to have it printed at the station [14:34] schestowitz-TR2 and she says they are greenwashing the "app" option [14:34] schestowitz-TR2 I guess they also profit from hoovring your data and selling it [14:34] schestowitz-TR2 (those are private companies now) [14:46] schestowitz-TR2 England and Wales Increase in Deaths by Age Group: 62% in Children, 12% in Teens, Almost 20% in Adults, and 16% in Old People https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/increase-in-deaths-by-age-groups/ [14:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive England and Wales Increase in Deaths by Age Group: 62% in Children, 12% in Teens, Almost 20% in Adults, and 16% in Old People [14:46] schestowitz-TR2 !! [14:52] techrights-sec[2] That would probably the primary reason for foisting an "app" on all the [14:52] techrights-sec[2] surveillance devices, to continually monitor and sell the observations. [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 kitchen talk about it atm [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 she agrees with me trhat buying the ticket does not even tall them if she boards the train [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 app can help track her before, durig, and after travel [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 then sell the data [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 and she tells me they already sell her data to booking.com (layoffs btw) [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 rianne found out about the booking.com diversion [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 I'm not even sure if train companies are permitted to pass data like this [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 ok, rianne now says that the revolving gates don't work for physical tickets mas they used to [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 with a barcode on the printed ticket [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 instead you neede to go to a person to let you through [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 with the idiots scan their [cr]app shit [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 to get through the revolving gates [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 I reckon they not only penalise financially old people whose pension barely suffice for food now [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 they also aim to compltely eliminate travel by people without [cr]apps [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 I watched thjese trends over the years [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 10 years ago you could not use wifi anonymously unless in first class ('free' wifi, they can still [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 fingerprint you) [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 and to travel anonymously you needed to go to the counter [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 it's even harder to purcahse soccer ticketa anonumous [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 except froim scalpers [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 or using fake data you give the cashiers ● Oct 25 [15:06] techrights-sec[2] ack [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 lol! [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 so much progres [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 we can set satellite in orbit (for MASSIVE budgets... far more than justified) [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 but cannot run trains on time like 200 or so years ago with coal/steam) [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 because "the system is down" [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 lol! [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 "come right up, horse, we're going to the pub" [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 horse repair shop = vet [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 no blinkers to fix, just blinders [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 i thought about doing mems of car vs horse [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 along the lines of "rock vs hypePhone" [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 or ven palm PDA [15:10] schestowitz-TR2 battery life, privacy, security etc. [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 kitchen talk ctd:m rianne said the iran-xxxxx site that we support is having technical issues again [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 after moving from djangoCMS tro drupal [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 we've lost count; the context was, I mentioned python and php 'upgrade' paths [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 and she just noticed in triage that this client (you know who) is having compatibility problems [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 the bills they need to pay just to keep the site going and preserve 30k or so articles' archive are [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 hard to justify even when they hire "geeks" from yerevan (they are not that good tbh) [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 the ones they hired from india were a lot worse, but probably cheaper, more harm than good ime [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 we had to lock one out of the system because he kept making a mess; so his access would be request-based [15:16] schestowitz-TR2 no improvisig allowed; one troll in irc likes to mock people who strive to have stable systems [15:16] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [15:16] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:17] techrights-sec[2] ack [15:17] techrights-sec[2] would a static archive be more suitable? [15:17] techrights-sec[2] wget could scrape the old pages. [15:17] techrights-sec[2] :( [15:18] schestowitz-TR2 coffee break, need [topic] [15:18] schestowitz-TR2 then rss again (super-slow, even for a tuesday when editors are typically 'back' temporarily) [15:18] schestowitz-TR2 in light of covid-19 numbers we decided to further delay gym [15:18] schestowitz-TR2 until we know wth is going on [15:18] schestowitz-TR2 seems like permanent health damage [15:28] techrights-sec[2] https://www.axios.com/2022/10/22/rnc-lawsuit-google-spam-filter-blocks-email [15:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.axios.com | Republicans sue Google claiming spam filter blocks email [15:29] techrights-sec[2] https://www.axios.com/2022/10/22/rnc-lawsuit-google-spam-filter-blocks-email [15:29] techrights-sec[2] ^ topic ? [15:29] techrights-sec[2] https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oli [15:29] techrights-sec[2] gopoly-has-won.html [15:29] techrights-sec[2] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-national-committee-sues-google-over-email-spam-filters-2022-10-22/ [15:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oli ) [15:29] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Republican National Committee sues Google over email spam filters | Reuters [15:35] schestowitz-TR2 thanks, i'll think of how to cover this [15:35] schestowitz-TR2 rianne meanwhile says, why can't they just make software that lasts many years and is maintained for a long time? [15:35] schestowitz-TR2 it's not a rhetorical questiob [15:35] schestowitz-TR2 it is partly the outcome of software being managed by suits rather then geeks like openbsd [15:36] schestowitz-TR2 e.g. in the case of linux, sheela microsoft and her wife james [15:36] schestowitz-TR2 being NOT techical but merely exploiting technical people (to get rich) [15:41] techrights-sec[2] Part of the reason they can't do that is because M$ has sold people software [15:41] techrights-sec[2] using the Appeal To Novelty (argumentum ad novitatem) that the drones in [15:41] techrights-sec[2] purchasing and the suits in the C-suite evaluate software based on very [15:41] techrights-sec[2] few other critera other than version number. Recall in the NT vs Netware days [15:41] techrights-sec[2] they jump the versions up to have a higher number than the competition. Then [15:41] techrights-sec[2] renamed it to "2000" [15:41] techrights-sec[2] And part of that comes down to few to none of todays institutions having an [15:41] techrights-sec[2] actual IT department where they /support/ the mission critical teams in finding [15:41] techrights-sec[2] easier, more efficient tools and methods. Instead they have all become [15:41] techrights-sec[2] embedded M$ resellers working against the company using the company's own [15:41] techrights-sec[2] money. [15:41] techrights-sec[2] "newer is not better; different is not better; only better is better;" [15:41] techrights-sec[2] OpenBSD doesn't support any old versions beyond n-1 because they have positioned [15:41] techrights-sec[2] themselves as mostly a research and development team and that is the way to [15:41] techrights-sec[2] be able to drop old cruft. Ensuring "backwards compatibility" too long [15:41] techrights-sec[2] ensures that some cruft never goes away. That's why so many remote exploits [15:41] techrights-sec[2] affect all known versions of M$ Windows. Or as they put it, the exploits are [15:41] techrights-sec[2] known to affect the old but supported versions but no info about the "latest [15:41] techrights-sec[2] version". Then they push for across the board upgrades to the latest version. [15:41] techrights-sec[2] Then after a pause of a few days or a week, it is quitely mentioned that [15:41] techrights-sec[2] the "latest version" is also equally vulnerable, but to buy the new version [15:41] techrights-sec[2] anyway. [15:41] techrights-sec[2] s/That's why/That's one of the many reasons why/ [15:48] schestowitz-TR2 type z "BS job": keep changing things that work [15:48] schestowitz-TR2 this way things change [15:48] schestowitz-TR2 and money changes hands [15:48] schestowitz-TR2 there are theories of so-called 'economists' about flow of money [15:48] schestowitz-TR2 which I don't quite get [15:48] schestowitz-TR2 first, money does not exist per se [15:48] schestowitz-TR2 it's a token/barter -- a concept [15:48] schestowitz-TR2 passing a goat from one person to another person to another person [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 yields no productive "gain" [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 so ideally you can buy a radio alarm clock (fm) that lasts you a lifetime [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 and build a home with good enough materials [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 (not going into specifics about all the things that go wrong with "modern" homes, built fast and cheaply to look [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 good on the surface) [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 cars diminish in value so fast that only a job and peer pressure can justify buying a "modern" one [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 meanwhile I drink a a whole teaspot of coffee that costs just 10p to prepare, inc. power and ingredients [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 *teapot [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 a plastic cup with coffee (i heard) now costs about 4 pounds [15:49] schestowitz-TR2 so you work for 30 minutes at minimum wage *(physically demanding) for some water with ground seeds in it [15:49] techrights-sec[2] New appliances apparently have input from engineers assigned the task of having [15:49] techrights-sec[2] critical components fail just after the warranty expires. e.g. plastic [15:49] techrights-sec[2] encased bearings, glued-in perishable batteries, decomposing belts, etc [15:49] techrights-sec[2] biab (wiring another computer) [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 a sceptic or cynic would scoff and say "conpricacy theorist" [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 without having read about the light bulb cartel or similar [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 there are hardly proseuctions for bribery anymore (see Microsoft) [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 so cracking down on price-fixing cartels(petrol, food, electronics with patents) [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 not likely any time soon [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 there are ways to shun them (direct action, personal) but it comes with some temporary inconveniences [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 and means you go through life having to constantly challenge and argue with "systems" [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 the aspiration is, make more people out there challenge the system to the point where it becomes [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 financially unjustifable [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 gym this morning: "you can download the app" [15:54] schestowitz-TR2 all your need is a stack of weights and a shower; no apps, no thank you! ● Oct 25 [16:00] schestowitz-TR2 I tried m,any queries by which to find bits of the rms talk [16:00] schestowitz-TR2 but was not successful (yet) [16:00] schestowitz-TR2 i look forward to publishing andy's piece [16:00] schestowitz-TR2 he covered aspects like life further complicated by "systems" [16:01] techrights-sec[2] ack [16:01] techrights-sec[2] I too look forward to Andy's article. [16:06] schestowitz-TR2 flatpak has a new releas [16:06] schestowitz-TR2 egithub [16:06] schestowitz-TR2 the site says at the top (main headline/() [16:06] schestowitz-TR2 the future of APPS on LINUX [16:06] schestowitz-TR2 then shows slack.. steam... microsoft atom (eol!!) [16:06] schestowitz-TR2 yeah, the future [16:06] schestowitz-TR2 drm and dead Microsoft stuff [16:06] schestowitz-TR2 we became what we fought? [16:10] techrights-sec[2] that's what they aim for -- drm and proprietary [16:10] techrights-sec[2] infiltrated and subsumed; also the pipeline of new IT people has been cut off [16:10] techrights-sec[2] so there are no places anyone can learn technology even if they wanted to [16:10] techrights-sec[2] pgksrc is probably better [16:10] techrights-sec[2] ^pkgsrc [16:10] schestowitz-TR2 they don't even announce the release anyywhere but shithub [16:10] schestowitz-TR2 and I refuse to link to THAT [16:10] schestowitz-TR2 their web site is very out of dats [16:10] schestowitz-TR2 latest press release 2018~ [16:10] schestowitz-TR2 1.0 rewlease [16:15] techrights-sec[2] https://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/using.html [16:15] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.netbsd.org | Chapter?5.?Using pkgsrc [16:15] schestowitz-TR2 now I see more compression algos (zstd, shithub) inserted right into the kernel, linux. [16:15] schestowitz-TR2 there's no reason to put that inside a kernel [16:17] techrights-sec[2] nope [16:17] techrights-sec[2] no reason [16:18] schestowitz-TR2 this is facebook using kernel.org as a trijan horse to spread its stuff along with microsoft proprietary prison [16:18] schestowitz-TR2 same for rust [16:18] schestowitz-TR2 while paying millions to Sheela Microsoft and the wife James [16:18] schestowitz-TR2 to make sure they cannot say "no" [16:18] techrights-sec[2] ack [16:19] schestowitz-TR2 LT said FB was "a disease" [16:19] schestowitz-TR2 that was before Zuckerface and Sanbag paid his boss for some gem-styles sponsorehip mtier that comes [16:19] schestowitz-TR2 with TWO board seats [16:20] schestowitz-TR2 gem-styled sponsorship tier [16:21] schestowitz-TR2 LT/LF: "I heard you like to [some sexual act], how much for you to do that?" [16:42] schestowitz-TR2 ha! [16:42] schestowitz-TR2 new video an hour ago, validates what I wrote [16:42] techrights-sec[2] ack [16:42] schestowitz-TR2 Many Young People Are Dying (a Lot More Than Before) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/many-young-people-are-dying/ [16:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Many Young People Are Dying (a Lot More Than Before) [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 well worth it, I've jyst told rianne [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 and he rightly points out the billBC and other media like BillPR won't fu*cking mention such [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 very simple facts [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 and the academic community sees no need to properly study the causes [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 to repat what I said today and prior days, until we know "wth is going on" I'm lowering the risk [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 of shortening our lives [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 meanwhile in Boston University they developed a far more potent virus based on COVID-19 [16:51] schestowitz-TR2 let's hope that one does not escape the lab [16:52] techrights-sec[2] checking [16:52] techrights-sec[2] ??? [16:52] techrights-sec[2] the text does not make much sense [16:52] techrights-sec[2] there isn't an academic community any more just "adjunct lecturers" in the US [16:52] techrights-sec[2] and similar, post-Bologne Treaty flunkies in Europe [16:53] schestowitz-TR2 if the text does not make sense to you, it is because he covers a number of topics in an order that makes sense [16:53] schestowitz-TR2 those are like his written notes [16:53] schestowitz-TR2 and URLs ● Oct 25 [17:02] techrights-sec[2] ack [17:02] techrights-sec[2] in both the US and Europe there aren't any stable academic jobs to speak of [17:02] techrights-sec[2] and they spend much of their time playing administrivia with the bureacracy's [17:02] techrights-sec[2] proprietary software locked into Windows instead of teaching or doing research [17:02] techrights-sec[2] The Bologne Treaty toroedoed the system already in 1998 but the damage did not [17:02] techrights-sec[2] fully kick in 2003 but instead an academic generation or two later as the [17:02] techrights-sec[2] real people aged out. [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 in 2000 i started bsd [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 in 2003 phd [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 in 2005 i questioned my mentor (cs dept head) about postdoc jobs [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 he said they're expected to work well beyond 9-5 [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 that was 17 years ago [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 i later discovered how low a pay and "administrivia" too [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 like swiping card and filling out time sheets [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 like I was 15 again working at Burger King [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 and even comparable salaries! [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 /s/bsd/bsc/ [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 that necessarily means those who can do decent research won't be postdocs [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 they need to eat [17:02] schestowitz-TR2 the sysadmins at uni were so awful that it's a miracle they even got the responsibilities [17:03] schestowitz-TR2 like wiping a whole server without even telling tenants [17:03] schestowitz-TR2 without doing any backups [17:03] schestowitz-TR2 after getting cracked [17:03] schestowitz-TR2 they are probably fake 'tech' people who just could not find employment anywhere slese [17:03] schestowitz-TR2 *else [17:03] schestowitz-TR2 (obv. they could not conduct research, either) [17:04] techrights-sec[2] Unqualified flunkies are easier to keep on short leash because the managers [17:04] techrights-sec[2] can boss them around because the flunky knows he is both highly unqualified and [17:04] techrights-sec[2] can be replaced on a whim [17:06] schestowitz-TR2 we have those in our company now [17:06] schestowitz-TR2 using "Ubuntu" in VirtualBox (Windows) [17:06] schestowitz-TR2 with degree in "Classics" [17:06] schestowitz-TR2 and no real ability to solve technical issues [17:10] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [17:17] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-d66.hr0.odb5mq.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [17:19] *Techrights-sec is now known as ts2 [17:27] techrights-sec[2] ack [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 "A pause and reappraisal of global vaccination policies for COVID-19 is long overdue [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 ." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363759427_Curing_the_pandemic_of_misinformation_on_COVID-19_mRNA_vacc [17:28] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363759427_Curing_the_pandemic_of_misinformation_on_COVID-19_mRNA_vacc ) [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 ines_through_real_evidence-based_medicine_-_Part_1 [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 rianne's mom got special exemption issued by the cardiologist [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 because the heart conditions are known to be interacting badly with some vaccines [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 but more research is needed [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 though I am guessing it would be obstructed when you sell a 20 ent dose for $130 or more [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 *cent [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 I know some people who reported heart events after 1st or 2nd dose [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 it was then thay they refuses to take any more [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 *refused [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 no matter what they were told (assurances based onm hearsay and fear of sounding non-conformist) [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 buying a new heart is difficult because it's hard to replace moving parts that pump blood [17:28] techrights-sec[2] ack [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 same for spine, but there are remedies there and you can live with a bad spine [17:36] schestowitz-TR2 (news VERY slow today; tuesdays are usually busy) [17:55] techrights-sec[2] https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/24/snyk-cut-14-workforce-latest-round-tech-industry-layoffs/ [17:55] techrights-sec[2] ^ topic ? [17:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Snyk to cut 14% of workforce in latest round of tech industry layoffs - SiliconANGLE [17:55] schestowitz-TR2 haha [17:55] schestowitz-TR2 nice one [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 In the United States, Winter Deaths Increased 28% Between 2016 and This Year (But President Biden Insists Pandemic is Over) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/cdc-numbers/ [17:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive In the United States, Winter Deaths Increased 28% Between 2016 and This Year (But President Biden Insists Pandemic is Over) ● Oct 25 [18:02] techrights-sec[2] ack [18:22] techrights-sec[2] otr: do you have a specific paper by Lemley in mind? He has written quite [18:22] techrights-sec[2] otr: a few and the search engines do not show any of them to be obviously [18:22] techrights-sec[2] otr: connected to software or the [18:22] techrights-sec[2] otr: do you have a specific paper by Lemley in mind? He has written quite [18:22] techrights-sec[2] otr: a few and the search engines do not show any of them to be obviously [18:22] techrights-sec[2] otr: connected to software or the concept of innovation. [18:22] techrights-sec[2] concept of innovation. [18:23] schestowitz-TR2 he wrote about how patent maximalism should avoided and patent quality preserved, iirc [18:25] schestowitz-TR2 the topic of patents fell off the media and I lost track [18:25] schestowitz-TR2 now the pharma companies don't even suffer any scrutiny of it [18:25] schestowitz-TR2 systemic collapse [18:25] schestowitz-TR2 the interests of the vast majority have no bearing on policies [18:38] schestowitz-TR2 I would rememeber no better than past TR psost that mention them by name [18:38] schestowitz-TR2 and have URLs ● Oct 25 [19:25] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Oct 25 [20:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [20:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 25 [21:03] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:04] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 25 [22:36] techrights-sec[2] A [22:36] techrights-sec[2] "Study finds patent systems may discourage innovation" [22:36] techrights-sec[2] https://phys.org/news/2009-07-patent-discourage.html [22:36] techrights-sec[2] ? [22:36] techrights-sec[2] Maybe this one: [22:36] techrights-sec[2] "Patent Scope and Innovation in the Software Industry" [22:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-phys.org | Study finds patent systems may discourage innovation [22:36] techrights-sec[2] https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/facpub/343/ [22:36] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-scholarship.law.georgetown.edu | "Patent Scope and Innovation in the Software Industry" by Julie E. Cohen and Mark A. Lemley