●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 ●● ● Oct 26 [00:46] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [01:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4j7k2yqxz59nc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:12] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [01:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@5fveh3x5t6gbe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:43] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 26 [02:21] schestowitz-TR2 I am thinking whether to record a video about gulag and email [02:21] schestowitz-TR2 need to get my facts right, is gulag blocking GOP spam (yes, it's spam) because of the meil relays [02:21] schestowitz-TR2 or because it is spam? I can see this boomerranging if I cannot justify the assertion [02:43] schestowitz-TR2 Excess Deaths in the US Should be Calculated Based on Pre-Pandemic Levels https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/26/wrong-excess-deaths/ [02:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Excess Deaths in the US Should be Calculated Based on Pre-Pandemic Levels [02:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:50] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:50] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [03:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:02] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:05] schestowitz-TR2 Chart: England and Wales Deaths (Totals) in 2014-2019 (Average), 2021, and 2022 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/26/deaths-in-uk/ [03:05] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Chart: England and Wales Deaths (Totals) in 2014-2019 (Average), 2021, and 2022 [03:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [03:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pupsf4x2uvcgu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [04:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [05:07] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 26 [06:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:20] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:20] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@s9xek7hahrdji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [07:15] techrights-sec[2] gm [07:15] techrights-sec[2] Google's spam filter is blocking spam. That is a red herring. [07:15] techrights-sec[2] The more serious problem is that Google's spam filter is blocking nearly [07:15] techrights-sec[2] all independently operated mail servers. Who is to say whether more R mail [07:15] techrights-sec[2] servers are outside of GAFAM or if more D mail servers are outsourced to GAFAM? [07:15] techrights-sec[2] It does not matter, that is the distraction and turns a political problem into [07:15] techrights-sec[2] a partisan issue. The political problem is that Google appears to be aiming [07:15] techrights-sec[2] to gain control of e-mail and force everyone who wishes to use e-mail to [07:15] techrights-sec[2] use GMail but only over Google's webmail interface. Notice that most regular [07:15] techrights-sec[2] mail clients are blocked and only in a few situations are complicated OAUTH [07:15] techrights-sec[2] clients allowed, but with no indication for how much longer they will be allowed [07:16] techrights-sec[2] Also look at their non-standard IMAPS implementation which has been impairing [07:16] techrights-sec[2] mail clients since many years ago. [07:16] techrights-sec[2] ^ for background only; do not quote any of the above [07:16] techrights-sec[2] Here is /one/ case study: [07:16] techrights-sec[2] https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html [07:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cfenollosa.com | After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel. The oligopoly has won. [07:16] techrights-sec[2] https://blog.paranoidpenguin.net/2020/02/self-hosting-email-in-2020-joe-nobody-vs-world/ [07:16] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.paranoidpenguin.net | Self-hosting email in 2020 Joe Nobody vs. World | ParanoidPenguin.net [07:28] *psydruid advocates "e-mail over XMPP" ● Oct 26 [08:40] schestowitz-TR2 I'm still reading about the gamil situation [08:40] schestowitz-TR2 to ensure I properly understand what there si to be said about it before writing about it [08:40] schestowitz-TR2 or even recording somethingh on the matter [08:40] schestowitz-TR2 I am a bit of an outsider to itm, having never used gmail [08:48] techrights-sec[2] https://alpineapp.email/alpine/alpine-info/misc/xoauth2.html [08:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-alpineapp.email | Authenticating using XOAUTH2 in IMAP and SMTP [08:53] techrights-sec[2] LT has no chance of getting real work done if he is playing webmail instead [08:53] techrights-sec[2] of using a functional client [08:53] schestowitz-TR2 i knew only one user os it: linux torvalds [08:53] schestowitz-TR2 based on LF video, LT now uses "webmail" (his words [08:53] schestowitz-TR2 which is awful [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 1) it's not about productivity, it is about oversight (bossing) [08:54] schestowitz-TR2 2) email is not inn gneeral secure and gov. workflows should not use email for almost anything, but see (1) [08:55] techrights-sec[2] Oversight, surveillance, and (in the case of employers) micromanagement [08:55] techrights-sec[2] With the advent of M$ outlook, it's not only insecure but also highly [08:55] techrights-sec[2] unreliable and 10% - 20% of messages for outlook/exchange go missing. [08:59] schestowitz-TR2 haha, seeing the link about youtube revenue declining [08:59] schestowitz-TR2 in spite or because of them bombarding the platfoprm with it? [08:59] schestowitz-TR2 They probably overdid it and scared away "users" [08:59] techrights-sec[2] Youtube has overdone several abusive behaviors, and thus driven away droves [08:59] techrights-sec[2] of useds. ● Oct 26 [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 good, even great, news [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 that's what I want to see [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 even with tons in subsidies and corrupted media on their side I hope they will perish and something [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 decent can fill the gap [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 (ot: yesterday on 3 occassions I searched for videos on "rms" or "stallman" for the day; [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 did not find anything from india but some 10-20 secs videos of some girl kept showing up, [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 apparently some tiktok stuff she also uploads to youtube; I did not click and one video [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 said something like "getting hot in here"; I assume some 'sexualised' something... a lot of [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 teens on tiktok harm themselves for whatever this chinese company rewards for) [09:03] schestowitz-TR2 youtube is a dump of junk [09:03] techrights-sec[2] Searching Youtube for "RMS" brings up pages and pages of junk but nothing [09:03] techrights-sec[2] related to RMS or to Software Freedom. Youtube is proprietary anyway [09:05] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes you can still find some new rms talks this way [09:05] schestowitz-TR2 I will try again later [09:05] schestowitz-TR2 I used indivious, not youtube [09:05] schestowitz-TR2 I can't stand youtube because it's slow and full of ads [09:05] techrights-sec[2] Nothing in Odysee either [09:05] techrights-sec[2] I thought he admonished hosts not to upload to youtube but to self host [09:05] techrights-sec[2] The UI for Youtube is crap [09:05] schestowitz-TR2 maybe crap for YOU [09:05] schestowitz-TR2 YOU are NOT a CUSTOMER [09:10] techrights-sec[2] of course [09:34] schestowitz-TR2 just realised irc logs for today nor posted yet [09:34] schestowitz-TR2 biab gym [09:44] schestowitz-TR2 re operational costs at youtube, that is aside from paying creators [09:44] schestowitz-TR2 if youtube on its own profitable at all? [09:44] schestowitz-TR2 the can hide that ● Oct 26 [10:03] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:27] techrights-sec[2] As mentioned, the costs for storage at youtube only go up and the number [10:27] techrights-sec[2] of advertisers or other forms of income cannot grow adequately to cover [10:27] techrights-sec[2] all that, I would guess [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 ack [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 that was "gym thought" [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 remember gitlab wanted to toss out "old" repos [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 and vimeo wanted to start charging [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 they know where the cost overhead is [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 gitlab even specified a number, 11 million dollars iirc [10:31] schestowitz-TR2 just for the "old" stuff [10:37] techrights-sec[2] yes the cost structure or whatever it is called would be similar for [10:37] techrights-sec[2] other storage-oriented sites. A problem there with GitLab is how they [10:37] techrights-sec[2] can determine what is old or abandoned. Just because a code base is not [10:37] techrights-sec[2] being changed does not mean it is not in use. It can quite simply have reached [10:37] techrights-sec[2] a comfortable level as far as maturity goes. [10:37] techrights-sec[2] So old, established projects would be very quiet regardless of how active [10:37] techrights-sec[2] the community around the software actually is. There was one really prominent [10:37] techrights-sec[2] and recognizable example there with GitLab but the name eludes me at the moment. [10:38] schestowitz-TR2 gitlab is not making money [10:38] schestowitz-TR2 it rides vc cash [10:38] schestowitz-TR2 that was BEFORE pandemic [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 must be worse now [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 same for github [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 azure has several waves of layoffs [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 but the sastroturfers in thelayoffs.com go rah rah over "clown" [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 I just lmao [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 riding debt [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 ~=success [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 andrew lee called himself "king of debt" [10:39] schestowitz-TR2 then again, also went by "clwon prince" [10:40] techrights-sec[2] Debt, if one moves fast enough and never stops moving, is the new currency. [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 i have reasons to doubt the reason you heard; might be an exaggeration [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 well, then, good lukc to kings of debt [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 I'll watch them go down, as I have several times in recent years [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 people who went under super-fast [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 from showoff to nothing [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 over-evaluation of things partly enabled this debt heist [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 I will try to think more of the google thing while soing kitchen stuff [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 *doing [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 more topics would be good, too [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 news _seemed_ slow this morn [10:44] techrights-sec[2] ack [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 social control media is a MOVING target [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 it got worse over time [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 I called out twitter every few years for "bcoming FB" [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 maybe at its grain, at the start, twitter was ok-ish [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 compared to some [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 youtube used to be more "you" [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 with compative non-religious channels [10:46] schestowitz-TR2 now it would be deemed "offensive" [10:47] techrights-sec[2] https://www.r-project.org/foundation/ [10:47] techrights-sec[2] vs [10:47] techrights-sec[2] https://www.r-consortium.org/ [10:47] techrights-sec[2] m$ and LF are in one to compete with the other; i.e. one is legitimate [10:47] techrights-sec[2] ^ topic ? [10:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.r-project.org | R: The R Foundation [10:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.r-consortium.org | Home - R Consortium [10:52] techrights-sec[2] a review of two or three of the key papers reminding us that sw patents [10:52] techrights-sec[2] harm innovation would be of use in serveral ways [10:52] techrights-sec[2] ^ topic ? [10:58] techrights-sec[2] https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/24/1757258 [10:58] techrights-sec[2] ^ topic ? [10:58] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Apple Granted Patent for Deepfakes Based on Reference Images - SoylentNews [10:58] schestowitz-TR2 ok, that can be merged in with the fourth topic in the list ● Oct 26 [11:01] techrights-sec[2] https://futurism.com/riaa-ai-music-generators [11:01] techrights-sec[2] that is the RIAA making similar arguments as the FOSS community has made against [11:01] techrights-sec[2] m$ GitHub's Co-pilot which steals code [11:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-futurism.com | Record Labels Terrified by Rise of AI Music Generators [11:01] schestowitz-TR2 This is FALSE: "At this point, Copilot strikes me as a tool that replaces googling for stack overflow answers." No, stack overflow is NOT copyleft. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/25/if-github-copilot-is-a-copyright-problem-perhaps-the-problem-is-copyright/ | Source: Techdirt [11:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-If GitHub Copilot Is A Copyright Problem, Perhaps The Problem Is Copyright | Techdirt [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 microsoft is still trying to find a way to make some $ out of github [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 other than using it for sabotage [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 upselling "azure" did not work [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 they put azure person in charge [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 herding people into vscode won't work either if people grasp freedom [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 selling subscriptions for plagiarism alienates many developers [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 from what I saw, nat and his wife steph are moving to a whole different sector in "tech" [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 maybe after decades of mono and other crap they seek a fresh start, [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 but who knows... [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 the emaiul from graveley was a shot in his own foot (in court) [11:06] schestowitz-TR2 implusive and dumb [11:11] techrights-sec[2] What's up with M$ and LF trying to compete against, and thus hinder, the [11:11] techrights-sec[2] R Foundation? [11:13] schestowitz-TR2 you put the link once with "x" and once in Daily Links [11:13] schestowitz-TR2 I wantedd to say, mirosoft's attack on r is not new [11:13] schestowitz-TR2 and the infiltration attempts [11:13] schestowitz-TR2 I think it goes back to around 2016 when they bought some r-centric company [11:13] schestowitz-TR2 just to dip a finger in that pie [11:13] schestowitz-TR2 as a gateway to students/academia [11:13] schestowitz-TR2 but all those years later I don't see much r in shithub, azure, microsoft [11:13] schestowitz-TR2 they're irrelevant [11:14] techrights-sec[2] It's not new but it is ongoing [11:14] techrights-sec[2] The LF /is/ helping m$ carry out those attacks and is sponsoring events [11:14] techrights-sec[2] I think most of the R community is aware of m$ though there is a push to [11:14] techrights-sec[2] undermine development there as well by pushing a Windoze agenda sometimes [11:18] schestowitz-TR2 LF has become a rogue actor all around [11:18] schestowitz-TR2 that much is known, but needs to be explained repeatedly until [11:18] schestowitz-TR2 it's the "water cooler" talk [11:18] schestowitz-TR2 Sheela Microsoft and her wife love Microsoft and money [11:18] schestowitz-TR2 they never cared about Linus [11:18] schestowitz-TR2 Linus is an i**t for letting himself be controlled by wuch orgs [11:18] schestowitz-TR2 for 'convenience'] [11:18] schestowitz-TR2 until they give him the 'stalin treatment' [11:20] techrights-sec[2] even then he could have walked; for the time being it is still his trademark [11:20] techrights-sec[2] and he had the fame though it is clear they are working to grind that away [11:20] techrights-sec[2] so that when they yank the rug from under him there will be no one to protest [11:20] techrights-sec[2] about it [11:20] techrights-sec[2] and no outrage [11:20] techrights-sec[2] on the possiblity of a new CMS for TR, searching will be important and something [11:20] techrights-sec[2] will have to be arranged usin SQLite3's FTS5 with a FastCGI front end. [11:20] techrights-sec[2] That is a little problematic since it will necessitate receiving strings [11:20] techrights-sec[2] from the public. [11:21] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@i3dc85kghx8h6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:22] schestowitz-TR2 did you see the comments I reproduce from phoronix re LP? [11:22] schestowitz-TR2 phoronix still has some readers who care about freedom [11:22] schestowitz-TR2 and some idiots in the forum who pretend it is about "hate" [11:22] schestowitz-TR2 CorporateLinux won't be popular, but the remaining "media" will be bought off by it [11:22] schestowitz-TR2 like zdnet et al [11:22] schestowitz-TR2 I'll call out the sellouts more from now on [11:25] techrights-sec[2] Yes, there are still visitors to Phoronix, but he will eventually tire them [11:25] techrights-sec[2] out and those that are still coming back won't bother. I expect that the [11:25] techrights-sec[2] number of commenters has already diminished greatly there since he sold out. [11:25] techrights-sec[2] It's got to be hurting him in his conscience but whether it is enough to [11:25] techrights-sec[2] make him repent is another matter. It would be very nice to see him try to make [11:25] techrights-sec[2] good on this and go back to the old, quality work he used to do. [11:27] schestowitz-TR2 no, improbable [11:27] schestowitz-TR2 it's a point of no return [11:27] schestowitz-TR2 he noticed that when he covered msft shite like mono and windows he got more traffic [11:27] schestowitz-TR2 never stopped to think why perhaps [11:27] schestowitz-TR2 writing on these issues is ok, as long as you probably explain them, rather than reprodoce the lies [11:27] schestowitz-TR2 like the OCP thing (recent example) [11:27] schestowitz-TR2 tryint to be "objective" while giving a platform to liars [11:27] techrights-sec[2] Quite improbably but those that are returning there to comment are likely [11:27] techrights-sec[2] holding out such unrealistic hope of a recovery. [11:39] techrights-sec[2] There's nothing objective when promoting lies or giving equal valence to [11:39] techrights-sec[2] both lies / opinions versus facts. [11:39] techrights-sec[2] That is a pervasive problem, not just in ICT but even more so in general [11:39] techrights-sec[2] political discourse. [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 I use america-style scare quotes [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 michael has his knickers in a tizzy [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 he cannotproperly cover FOSS [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 why? [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 because of the sponsors [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 AMD and Intel are VERY close to Microsoft [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 putting aside the openwashing and virtue-signalling by michael [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 so he cannot 'bash' Microsoft without alienating the suppliers of gear etc. [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 iow, the site is compromised [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 when I saw the crates of 10,000-dollar EPYC I first reacherd out to him [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 because I hadn't realised just how compromised he had become [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 he has not posted similar phoronix since [11:44] schestowitz-TR2 inviting the "Evil eye" with "blingbling" [11:45] techrights-sec[2] Intel and its fate are tied to M$; It's a crap, outdated, incurably insecure [11:45] techrights-sec[2] architecture tied to a crap, outdated, incurably insecure, toy operating system [11:47] schestowitz-TR2 there will be more layoffs to come in both companies [11:47] schestowitz-TR2 be sure to stock some popcorn as the price of corn might increase [11:47] schestowitz-TR2 (rianne wasted money on some 'toy' popcorn machine that I told her she would barefly use [11:47] schestowitz-TR2 as it's a gimmick and not easy to clean; now she feels compelled to prove me e"wrong") [11:47] schestowitz-TR2 some people mistake kitchen (i.e. food) for gadgetry [11:48] *_Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-ad4.310.tinorq.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:48] techrights-sec[2] On the one hand it is good that the companies are diminishing; [11:48] techrights-sec[2] On the other hand the characters employed there will be spreading out [11:48] techrights-sec[2] and splattering across the market and infecting other sites with their (lack of) [11:48] techrights-sec[2] values. [11:48] techrights-sec[2] and skills [11:49] *Mio14 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [11:49] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:50] schestowitz-TR2 in tech, there is a shortage of jobs, not people [11:50] schestowitz-TR2 and the skills of MSFTer are barely relevant to many companies that stay standing [11:50] schestowitz-TR2 vis-a-vis, the "novelty appeal" troll in IRC revealed having attempted to be hired by Micrfosoft [11:50] schestowitz-TR2 (and failing) [11:51] schestowitz-TR2 just something to bear in mind [11:53] techrights-sec[2] Like deicaza they often work for m$ for many year prior to being officially [11:53] techrights-sec[2] on the payroll. [11:53] techrights-sec[2] There may be a break-in period where they have to prove useful in attacking [11:53] techrights-sec[2] the competition in ways that they don't want directly or immediately associated [11:53] techrights-sec[2] with the company. So they farm those tasks out to prospective hires and [11:53] techrights-sec[2] let them cause trouble for some years while officially independent of m$ [11:55] schestowitz-TR2 like peter o'[kelly and his attacks on ODF, along with Peter Galli (eWEEK) [11:55] schestowitz-TR2 fake 'journalist' get 'hired' as PR people for Microsoft later on ● Oct 26 [12:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@dqjeddtmyhmg6.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:06] schestowitz-TR2 Microsoft profits fall 14% in 1Q 2023, Windows OEM sales most affected https://itwire.com/listed-tech/microsoft-profits-fall-14-in-1q-2023,-windows-oem-sales-most-affected.html probably a lot worse. That's what they say AFTER all the "creative" (Enron-style) accounting. [12:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Microsoft profits fall 14% in 1Q 2023, Windows OEM sales most affected [12:19] techrights-sec[2] They've been doing Enron style accounting for a long time. Recall that using [12:19] techrights-sec[2] the traditional accounting they ran a huge loss. Right now they are probably [12:19] techrights-sec[2] only still in business due to ongoing bailouts, buying and selling their own [12:19] techrights-sec[2] stock, and cooking the books. [12:22] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 rianne sold an item this morning and will deliver later [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 the moden profit helps cover discount foods' cost [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 maybe I can ask ('instruct') her to add wine to the basket [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 seeing how our "enemies" crumble [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 (but I'm not the kind of person who 'wastes' time celebrating) [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 I'm off work till Sat [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 rianne will be in yorkshire for 2.5 days [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 today the CEO covers my shift (he does not even know how to) [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 because I asked for holiday and we are understaffed [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 one thing that can help is, check news about Micrtosoft finances [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 esp. the non-fluff, i.e. what they try to hide from headlines [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 like the big minuses [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 after Daily Links we can use those to make articles [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 it used to take a LOT of time to pick out the actual info out of their reports [12:26] schestowitz-TR2 "drpizza" was used a lot for official lying about their results back then [12:39] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [14:19] schestowitz-TR2 can you read the post published 2 mins ago for andy? [14:26] techrights-sec[2] checking [14:26] techrights-sec[2] will look in detail in a bit, just skimmed it now; wikipedia is not such [14:26] techrights-sec[2] a reliable reference especially if one does not link to the specific [14:26] techrights-sec[2] day-version. Otherwise the page's contents can be radically changed over time [14:26] techrights-sec[2] and a few years later not represent a single thing the citation was meant to [14:26] techrights-sec[2] bolster. [14:42] schestowitz the cancer has spread (results just in), chemo and radio will be needed :/ [14:42] schestowitz still no talk uploads of rms: https://yewtu.be/search?q=stallman&page=1&date=today&type=all&duration=none&sort=relevance [14:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | stallman - Invidious [14:44] techrights-sec[2] condolences [14:44] techrights-sec[2] recovery is still possible though [14:45] schestowitz-TR2 trying not to think about it _too_ much [14:45] schestowitz-TR2 in the link above you can see the tiktok crap [14:45] techrights-sec[2] I'll skip bytdance [14:46] schestowitz-TR2 google needs to provide backup storage for that crap [14:46] schestowitz-TR2 i hope it costs them enough to wound the users some more [14:46] schestowitz-TR2 like, after 100 uploads you must pay or lose the older videos [14:59] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 26 [15:00] techrights-sec[2] I forgot Gardiner existed. [15:00] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:01] schestowitz-TR2 Gardiner Bryant shilling proprietary software :/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNl2WfS3YnU [15:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=DNl2WfS3YnU [15:01] schestowitz-TR2 @Invidious: https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=DNl2WfS3YnU [15:01] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidio.xamh.de | How to INSTALL Discord on Steam in UNDER 5 MINUTES (Even if you're a NOOB) - Invidious [15:01] schestowitz-TR2 -> invidious.flokinet.to | How to INSTALL Discord on Steam in UNDER 5 MINUTES (Even if you're a NOOB) - Invidious [15:03] techrights-sec[2] I've read the post by Andy in detail now and made some annotation but are the [15:03] techrights-sec[2] annotations of interest and if so how to communicate them? [15:03] techrights-sec[2] It was a good read and well worth the time. [15:04] schestowitz-TR2 you can email him directly, I think [15:04] schestowitz-TR2 he would appreciate positive responses [15:04] schestowitz-TR2 I'm still thinking how to best handle the EPO/UPC issues [15:04] schestowitz-TR2 either way, an archive of old articles is in its own right valuable against the lies [15:31] techrights-sec[2] ack ● Oct 26 [16:10] techrights-sec[2] The EPO / UPC issues can be best handled by contacting some of the committe [16:10] techrights-sec[2] members there in Germany. [16:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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