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[10:02] *amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-mgvjop.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:03] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@4fqyq57tpudzs.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:39] *liberty_box has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:39] *liberty_box (~liberty@qiysgnj2chdjg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [11:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [12:38] *croissant (~croissant@zy9abmr927v9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:39] *croissant_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:42] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [12:45] *wallacer (~quassel@2x2w4qfz3wksg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [15:15] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@36imbvshpgubk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] Re: A small complaint re: techrights [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] Most complaints are good and more so productive and constructive ones such as yours. I took a moment to discuss this with my wife and decided to respond in-line. [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] > I've been thoroughly enjoying the posts on techrights. I've not seen **anywhere else**, for example, even the slightest trepidation about Debian including "non-free firmware" by default, or any analysis of it other than "oh great my wifi works now." I'm glad to see that you stand up for the FSF, for free software, for Richard Stallman and the GNU project, and all without embracing every little fad or trend that comes along. [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] Thank you, it's appreciated. [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] > I've also been very pleased to see that this is paired with feminism and some sense of internationalism. It's unfortunately rare to see tech sites talk about women's rights, and even rarer to see them talk about it in any meaningful way (i.e., any deeper than "our corporate handlers tell us it would be good PR to mention it briefly and insincerely"). And then also to see some mentions here and there of internationalism and co [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] operation between peoples. It's nice. [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] It's nice to know the internationalism angle is done OK, which leads to: [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] > What bothers me however is the occasional, off-handed China bashing. I don't understand where it's coming from. China is a massive supporter of free software. For example, the biggest state-funded effort to replace foreign software imports with domestic alternatives is the Deepin OS, licensed GPLv3. The collective analysis here is that the GPL is the only way to guarantee that software ends up actually serving human needs rat [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] her than corporate greed. China's also a champion of women's rights and internationalism. The accusation that the CPC is "undemocratic" is incomprehensible to me -- elections are held for local offices, policy implementations vary between regions to ensure that the local people of a given region can tailor it to their specific realities, grassroots Party committees oversee development & conflict resolution of every neighborhood [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] in the country. American police kill literally more than 1,000 people every year, Chinese police killed almost no one ever. In other countries, the rich keep getting richer and everyone else is left to die off. In China, the quality of life is steadily rising for everyone -- and extreme poverty was eliminated just a few years ago. To top it all off, the government has a consistent approval rating hovering around 90% -- and thi [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] s even according to studies conducted by*American* institutions. How could that be called undemocratic? [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] I critically digest information about China (what little of it that is permitted by the insiders) and some of this contradicts the above. I have friends who visit China. My wife is east-Asian, too. [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] I think we must be equally critical of all superpowers (or wannabe superpowers). [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] > It's the Americans that keep trying to covertly introduce software bugs and backdoors, it's the Americans that are spying on everyone and attempting to destroy free software, it's the Americans that were talked about by Snowden. We*know* for certain what the Americans are doing -- why*speculate* about China instead of looking at the facts? Why believe the discredited nonsense published by American media? Why buy into it whe [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] n the world's biggest criminal accuses someone else of wrongdoing? [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] 1. China also got caught back-dooring stuff; 2) US is "on top" and has been for decades; I try not to underestimate what 'underdogs' would do if allowed to morph into top dogs. [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] I think TR is a lot harsher on the West than on China, which is increasingly helping Russia against Europe (where I am). [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] > Well, that's my rant. I'm a little nervous to send it; I'm not big on fights or conflict. Like I said I'm very much enjoying Techrights so far. I just wish it didn't have that little piece embedded in. [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] It's good and important to know if or when readers sense bias. I will reassess that slant [no pun intended] and see if I was/am unfair. [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] > *Sincerely* signing off with my best wishes for you and yours [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] Thanks for the feedback. ● Oct 26 [19:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [20:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [21:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [21:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [21:46] *psydroid3 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/) [21:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [21:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [22:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 26 [23:40] *amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:40] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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