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Techrights-sechttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-04/msg00037.htmlApr 27 07:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.gnu.org | Re: thank you elon muskApr 27 07:17
schestowitz <li>Apr 27 07:24
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://blog.system76.com/post/682519660741148672/popos-2204-lts-has-landed">Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS has landed!</a></h5>Apr 27 07:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.system76.com | System76 Blog — Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS has landed!Apr 27 07:24
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Apr 27 07:24
schestowitz                                        <p>Update and upgrade Pop!_OS automatically from the OS Upgrade & Recovery panel in Settings! Minimize interruption by scheduling what day & time that you want your computer to perform the updates. Scheduled automatic updates include support for Debian, Flatpak, and Nix packages.</p>Apr 27 07:25
schestowitz                                        <p>To reduce distractions, notifications for available updates are set to show weekly by default. The frequency can also be set to daily or monthly notifications. Notifications won’t show if you have automatic updates enabled. Automatic updates are turned off by default.</p>Apr 27 07:25
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Apr 27 07:25
schestowitz                                </li>Apr 27 07:25
schestowitz<li>Apr 27 07:25
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/canonical-may-go-public-in-2023,-claims-us$175m-profit-last-year.html">Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last year</a></h5>Apr 27 07:25
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Apr 27 07:25
schestowitz                                        <p>The head of Canonical, the company behind the Ubuntu Linux distribution, claims it recorded a profit of US$175 million (A$237.7 million) in 2021 and is likely to undertake an IPO in 2023.</p>Apr 27 07:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last yearApr 27 07:26
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Apr 27 07:26
schestowitz                                </li>Apr 27 07:26
schestowitz <li>Apr 27 07:26
schestowitz                                    <h5><a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-mongodb">What is MongoDB and why use it for modern web applications?</a></h5>Apr 27 07:26
schestowitz                                    <blockquote>Apr 27 07:26
schestowitz                                        <p>Organisations of different scales and forms want to harness the power of data to identify new business opportunities and improve current business operations. Organisations that use data effectively can hold a potential advantage – the ability to make faster and more informed business decisions. However, working with data can be a long-standing problem for businesses and functions, especially in data Apr 27 07:26
schestowitzmanagement and software development.</p>Apr 27 07:26
schestowitz                                        <p>One essential use case in which organisations require fast phase development and excellent data management is building modern web-based applications. Organisations demand a high-quality working system that can be deployed as quickly as possible. In addition, these applications should be able to scale. So, every application must be designed and built on a suitable database. Traditionally, web Apr 27 07:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is MongoDB and why use it for modern web applications? | UbuntuApr 27 07:26
schestowitzapplications used relational databases as primary data store, with an appreciation for the well-normalised data model. But as applications modernise, more developers lean towards adopting alternative data stores, such as NoSQL (Not Only Structured Query Language) because of their benefits.</p>Apr 27 07:26
schestowitz                                        <p>One of the applications that can help organisations develop modern web-based applications is MongoDB. This database enables organisations to build scalable and data-driven applications. The data model and persistence strategies are built for high read and write throughput. In addition, it has an automatic failover capability. If you’re wondering what MongoDB is, its benefits, and how MongoDB helps run Apr 27 07:26
schestowitzmodern web-based application production, this blog is for you.</p>Apr 27 07:26
schestowitz                                    </blockquote>Apr 27 07:26
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schestowitz-TRgreat finds in Daily Links, now we see some numbers about the effect of destroying YouTube with adsApr 27 07:35
schestowitz-TRin 2018, IIRC, Twittter did the sameApr 27 07:35
schestowitz-TRkilling off third partiesApr 27 07:35
schestowitz-TRshoving lots of adsApr 27 07:35
schestowitz-TRthey temporarily made preofit for the first timeApr 27 07:35
schestowitz-TRbut THEY LOST A TON OF USERSApr 27 07:35
schestowitz-TRthen they were back to lossesApr 27 07:35
schestowitz-TRYouTube might be the sameApr 27 07:35
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schestowitz-TR Techdirt says "utilizing established IP" [sic] but should know better! ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/paradox-fully-embraces-fan-games-with-developer-affiliate-program/ | Source: TechdirtApr 27 08:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Paradox Fully Embraces Fan-Games With Developer Affiliate Program | TechdirtApr 27 08:56
schestowitz-TRnot the first timeApr 27 08:57
schestowitz-TRI see a lot of things in EFF, CC, and TechDirt that I cannot agree withApr 27 08:57
schestowitz-TRMozilla has long crossed the borderApr 27 08:57
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schestowitz-TR “Abusive” Bully on Twitter ☛ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/26/twitter_elon_musk_free_speech | Source: Democracy NowApr 27 09:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Elon Musk, the World’s Richest Man, Has Been an “Abusive” Bully on Twitter for Years. Now He Owns It | Democracy Now!Apr 27 09:07
Techrights-secypuotube is dying, first the sharecroppers are going elsewhere, along with theirApr 27 10:11
Techrights-secfollowers, and then google is tryingto squueze the remining fools, thus drivingApr 27 10:11
Techrights-secmore sharecroppers awayApr 27 10:11
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schestowitz-TRI could never prove it due to "creative" accounting, but I've long argued that like with Gulag CodeApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRand ShitHub, there's no real business mode;Apr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRSame for TwitterApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRthe "free" account is how they build the businessApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRwith netflix nthe expenses are huge, but they do charge a feeApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRso anyway, they operate in a vacuuumApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRassuming they can somehow turn the useds into customersApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRyesterday I messed aroung with youtubeApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRtoi find football videosApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRof the game hereApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRthey keep pushing PACKAGES for youtubeApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRlike I'd actually pay them to watch videoApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRit's hard to convince people to start payingApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRfor what they used to get for freeeApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRback to gulag, they bought a losing operaitonApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRsame for shithubApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRand gulag did not wish to buy shithubApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRit was put on offerApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRmaybe shithub preferred to sell to gulagApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRthe more they sequqeesze for money, like twitter in 2018Apr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRthe fewer used are leftApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRuntil there's no geese left to squeezeApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRit's a precarious situationApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRspotify does charge for usedsApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRbut maybe not enoughApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRso it tried podcastingApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRand lost millions of subscribersApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TR5 million x $10 a month = 50 a month lost. 50 millionApr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRIn two months 100 million.Apr 27 10:15
schestowitz-TRWhat they paid RogueAn.Apr 27 10:15
Techrights-secI'm not sure YouTube was losing so badly at the time it was bought butApr 27 10:17
Techrights-secthe storage and bandwidth don't  pay for themselves and video is expensiveApr 27 10:17
Techrights-secas hell to even store and stream despite them getting the production workApr 27 10:17
Techrights-secfor freeApr 27 10:17
schestowitz-TRremember it's easier to lose SUBSRFIBERApr 27 10:17
schestowitz-TRthan a USEDApr 27 10:17
schestowitz-TRbecause for the used it's harder to justify leavingApr 27 10:17
schestowitz-TR"it's free after all"Apr 27 10:17
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schestowitz-TRsubscribers just "Stop paying"Apr 27 10:17
schestowitz-TRif they are no longer happyApr 27 10:17
Techrights-secyepApr 27 10:17
schestowitz-TRI want to see the whole bubble busrstingApr 27 10:18
schestowitz-TRNO BAILOUTS THIS TIMERApr 27 10:18
schestowitz-TRStop doping!!!Apr 27 10:18
schestowitz-TROIn taxpayers' backsApr 27 10:18
schestowitz-TRThe Reg wrote about the hololkens graft yesterdayApr 27 10:18
Techrights-secNational security and preparedness would rise drastically if M$ were allowedApr 27 10:24
Techrights-secto finally go underApr 27 10:24
schestowitz-TRbut sales of all sorts would also diminishApr 27 10:25
schestowitz-TRcan't allow dddat!!!Apr 27 10:25
schestowitz-TRbtw, rianne and I will go cycling soon, maybe in 30 minsApr 27 10:25
Techrights-secexcellent.  have a great rideApr 27 10:25
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Microsoft concern-trolling Linux while putting NSA back doors in Windows https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/microsoft-discovers-new-privilege.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAApr 27 10:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | Microsoft Discovers New Privilege Escalation Flaws in Linux Operating SystemApr 27 10:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- thehackernews.com | Microsoft Discovers New Privilege Escalation Flaws in Linux Operating SystemApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> As if local privilege escalation is anywhere as severe as remotely-reachable back doors in Windows https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/04/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAApr 27 10:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Microsoft finds Linux desktop flaw that gives root to untrusted users | Ars TechnicaApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- arstechnica.com | Microsoft finds Linux desktop flaw that gives root to untrusted users | Ars TechnicaApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Microsoft is "concerned" about Linux security like wolves are concerned about the safety of sheep.Apr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR ICBM hypocrisy: "Many companies these days are keen to infuse their products and platforms with artificial intelligence" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/diversity-drives-innovationApr 27 10:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enterprisersproject.com | 4 reasons diverse engineering teams drive innovation | The Enterprisers ProjectApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- enterprisersproject.com | 4 reasons diverse engineering teams drive innovation | The Enterprisers ProjectApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> Proprietary junk. Probably does more harm than good. Shilled by spamnil and other snakeoil spammers. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/04/26/2429026/0/en/New-SIOS-LifeKeeper-for-Linux-Version-9-6-1-Adds-Support-for-the-Latest-Versions-of-Key-Operating-Systems-Databases-and-Cloud-Features.htmlApr 27 10:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.globenewswire.com | New SIOS LifeKeeper for Linux Version 9.6.1 Adds SupportApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.globenewswire.com | New SIOS LifeKeeper for Linux Version 9.6.1 Adds SupportApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> "I'm going to start this blog by writing a very simple guide on installing Perl using perlbrew." http://blogs.perl.org/users/ali/2022/04/installing-perl-with-perlbrew.htmlApr 27 10:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Installing Perl with perlbrew | Ali [blogs.perl.org]Apr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Installing Perl with perlbrew | Ali [blogs.perl.org]Apr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> This was patched a very long time ago; meanwhile, there are dozen of zero-day flaws in Windows that are remotely exploitable, not local privilege escalation https://thestack.technology/dirty-pipe-exploited-linux-vulnerability-cve-2022-0847/Apr 27 10:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thestack.technology | "Dirty Pipe" Linux vulnerability is now being exploited in the wildApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- thestack.technology | "Dirty Pipe" Linux vulnerability is now being exploited in the wildApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR<techrights-news> While CISA admits Microsoft is full of holes that are actively exploited Microsoft and its faithful media operative try to shift attention to "Linux" https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-nimbuspwn-linux-vulnerability-gives-hackers-root-privileges/Apr 27 10:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Nimbuspwn Linux vulnerability gives hackers root privilegesApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TR-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.bleepingcomputer.com | NeApr 27 10:35
schestowitz-TRmore research on the security matter would help beofore doign article/videoApr 27 10:37
schestowitz-TRin case I do oneApr 27 10:37
schestowitz-TRmaybe there's more to it than meets the eyeApr 27 10:37
schestowitz-TRlike very hard to actually leverage such a bugApr 27 10:37
schestowitz-TRI did not look into itApr 27 10:37
schestowitz-TRbut could use help hereApr 27 10:37
schestowitz-TRDan Goodin and other Micerosoft boot lickers... I would NOT truist a word from themApr 27 10:37
Techrights-secI'm not sure what could be found, the media covers for M$Apr 27 10:39
Techrights-secall day everydayApr 27 10:39
schestowitz-TRbut maybe it's another one of those MS/GitHub claiming Linux has security "disaster"Apr 27 10:40
schestowitz-TRbecause you can executive some malicious file in KDE or GNOMEApr 27 10:40
schestowitz-TRCanApr 27 10:40
schestowitz-TRNot willApr 27 10:40
schestowitz-TRthey tend toi exaggerateApr 27 10:40
schestowitz-TRCISA has just released a long list of severe Microsoft flawsApr 27 10:40
schestowitz-TRACTIVELY exploitedApr 27 10:40
Techrights-sechttps://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 10:42
Techrights-sechttps://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 10:42
Techrights-sechttps://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 10:42
Techrights-sechttps://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-5092-1Apr 27 10:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 10:42
Techrights-secIf there is a problem affecting non-M$ systems then that is unusual and therefore news.  If there is a remote exploApr 27 10:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 10:42
Techrights-secit in the wild being actively exploitedApr 27 10:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 10:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | DSA-5092-1Apr 27 10:42
Techrights-secagainst M$ systems, that is the normal situation and thus not newsApr 27 10:42
Techrights-sechttps://www.ivanti.com/blog/how-to-mitigate-cve-2022-0847-the-dirty-pipe-vulnerabilityApr 27 10:42
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ivanti.com | How to Mitigate CVE-2022-0847 (The Dirty Pipe Vulnerability)Apr 27 10:42
Techrights-sec"This includes a multitude of devices running Android 12 and Linux."Apr 27 10:43
schestowitz-TRthat includes apples and apple skinsApr 27 10:43
Techrights-secre: irc -- why would 951k "tweets" cost 7GB ?Apr 27 10:47
Techrights-secThat's over 7kB per tweet Apr 27 10:47
Techrights-sec7GB comnpressed  Apr 27 10:49
schestowitz-TRi did not uncompress otApr 27 10:49
schestowitz-TRbut i assume thyey include images nowApr 27 10:49
schestowitz-TRthereare 951k tweetsApr 27 10:49
schestowitz-TR Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/nodApr 27 10:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod )Apr 27 10:59
schestowitz-TRI might do a video about it when I return homeApr 27 10:59
schestowitz-TRyou have given some additional links to work withApr 27 11:00
schestowitz-TRinc. direct from CVE/sourceApr 27 11:00
schestowitz-TRwhat I want to know is,Apr 27 11:00
schestowitz-TRand have not checked to verifyApr 27 11:00
schestowitz-TRis how DIFFICULT this thing is to leverageApr 27 11:00
schestowitz-TRlike pre-requisiteApr 27 11:00
schestowitz-TRe.g. are there assumptions about which kernel modules are in place?Apr 27 11:00
schestowitz-TRwhich kernel versions affected (many distros use stable old kernels)Apr 27 11:01
schestowitz-TRSecurity Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164200Apr 27 11:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation | Tux MachinesApr 27 11:01
schestowitz-TRseeing the directrion itwire has takenApr 27 11:04
schestowitz-TRand the workload of "obligatory spam"Apr 27 11:04
schestowitz-TRthe only other person likely to check what's at stake here Apr 27 11:04
schestowitz-TRis not likely to say a thingApr 27 11:04
schestowitz-TRFOSS Force is LF nowApr 27 11:04
schestowitz-TRLF ACTIVELY PARTICIPATES in such antyi-Linux talking pointsApr 27 11:04
schestowitz-TRand then pushes Snyk et al productsApr 27 11:04
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schestowitz-TRback Apr 27 14:39
schestowitz-TRsaved about 30-35 poundsApr 27 14:39
Techrights-secis there a summary somewhere where FOSSForce comes clean on LF financing? Apr 27 14:39
Techrights-sechttps://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-andApr 27 14:39
Techrights-sec"The Linux Foundation is funded (and controlled) by Microsoft and Facebook"Apr 27 14:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lunduke.substack.com | 6 Dirty Secrets of the Linux and Open Source IndustryApr 27 14:39
schestowitz-TRfossforce is an open secretApr 27 14:40
schestowitz-TRno need to fight them in the openApr 27 14:40
schestowitz-TRit would be counterproductive because we get support from them, esp. TMApr 27 14:40
Techrights-secIt would be convenient to have a link to point people to covering FOSS Force andApr 27 14:42
Techrights-secLF but it does not have to be a link at TRApr 27 14:42
Techrights-sec Apr 27 14:42
Techrights-secThe soft deadline for the temporary machine is approaching.  Is there anyApr 27 14:42
Techrights-secuse for it or can I power it down and repurpose it early?Apr 27 14:42
Techrights-secexcellentApr 27 14:42
schestowitz-TRany offsite partitition withh backup of the site is helpfulApr 27 14:43
schestowitz-TRin case of data lossesApr 27 14:43
schestowitz-TRMy connection is not fast, so my backups of the site are not so goodApr 27 14:43
Techrights-secThe temporary system has no LXC and that is a quite unfamiliar way of managingApr 27 14:46
Techrights-secservicesApr 27 14:46
schestowitz-TRa) many people with yellow labels in their carts today. maybe they come to gripsApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRwith them not being worth whatever their salary said 5 or 15 years ago, so itApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRis time to save where possibleApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRb) 10 mins ago we discussed i the kitchen expenses, sum is estimated at 750/mo excluding Apr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRunexpected fees or help to familyApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRc) lunduke is not "good neighbourhood" at this timeApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRd) fossforce can be very schizo, so I try to stay on the good side of itApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRe) when TM had issue she took it very hard (fossforce), thought it was personalApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRI shared 3 "tweets" about that in IRCApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRf) we actually cycle up the stream and the food buying is comfy because it's right there and way back is downhill,Apr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRso carrying stuff in bicycle basket and backpack is easier than walkingApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TR(g) no food for the geese today (we keep heads and tails of bread for them, always) and there are alreadyApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRsome eggs hatching with gosling (we saw about 200 on the way)Apr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRh) I am going to start working on part 5 (belarus), maybe later I will do a video about that and aboutApr 27 14:52
schestowitz-TRmicrosoft FUD. I want to know the conditions for exploitation and how severe it really isApr 27 14:52
Techrights-secack Apr 27 14:53
Techrights-secc) lunduke is rather off since the last year or twoApr 27 14:53
Techrights-sece) ackApr 27 14:53
Techrights-secgrains might be healthier for the geeseApr 27 14:53
Techrights-sech) which vulnerabilities, specifically?Apr 27 14:53
schestowitz-TRwe limit to just one head or tail and split that among about a dozen each, so the total amount is smallApr 27 14:54
schestowitz-TRbecause their food is grass and stuff, grain is betterApr 27 14:54
schestowitz-TR[10:42] <Techrights-sec> https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 14:55
schestowitz-TR[10:42] <Techrights-sec> https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 14:55
schestowitz-TR[10:42] <Techrights-sec> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 14:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-0847Apr 27 14:55
schestowitz-TRCTRLC+ for copy I guessApr 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRI said,Apr 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRwait there are 3 links about a new Microsoft FUDApr 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRThe one about "dirty pipe" is old newsApr 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRI think you pasted something from makeuseofApr 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRand then quoted two links from itApr 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRwhich I saw brieflyApr 27 14:58
schestowitz-TRmaybe then tried to pasted anotherApr 27 14:58
Techrights-secyes                                   #######################################Apr 27 14:59
Techrights-secCVE-2022-0847 an co *are* oldApr 27 14:59
Techrights-sechttps://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-the-dirty-pipe-exploit-in-linux-and-fix-it/Apr 27 14:59
Techrights-sec"""Apr 27 14:59
Techrights-secThe attack surface of Dirty Pipe stretches across all Linux kernel versions from 5.8 to 5.16.11. In layman's terms,Apr 27 14:59
Techrights-sec it means that all the distros, from Ubuntu to Arch and everything in between, are susceptible to being compromisedApr 27 14:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.makeuseof.com | What Is the Dirty Pipe Exploit in Linux and How Can You Fix It?Apr 27 14:59
Techrights-sec by Dirty Pipe.Apr 27 14:59
Techrights-secAffected Linux kernel versions range from 5.8 to 5.10.101.   Apr 27 14:59
Techrights-sec""" Apr 27 14:59
schestowitz-TRThere are two issues to cover (actually 3, I will mention ntfs neglect too)Apr 27 15:00
schestowitz-TRbut the main one is from Goodin and Bleeping garbageApr 27 15:00
Techrights-secThe problem sounds more like it is that many mobile and, especially, embeddedApr 27 15:00
Techrights-secsystems don't / can't easily get kaintainedApr 27 15:00
Techrights-secdespite being connected to the net.Apr 27 15:00
schestowitz-TRthey should have used simpler OSes, with smaller attack surface, and keep them OFF the Net where possibleApr 27 15:01
schestowitz-TRbut like browsers and sites throwing everything at you in bulkApr 27 15:01
schestowitz-TRthey overcomplicate things for saving's sakeApr 27 15:01
schestowitz-TRbecause small can be more expensiveApr 27 15:01
schestowitz-TRsmall requires extra effortApr 27 15:01
Techrights-secA problem is that everything nowadays has a network stack and the quickApr 27 15:02
Techrights-secway to do that is throw a kernel at itApr 27 15:02
Techrights-sec^Linux, specificallyApr 27 15:02
Techrights-secMaking it smaller requires effort and skillApr 27 15:02
schestowitz-TR=====Apr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRthis is good for outsourcersApr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRoutsource softwareApr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRoutsource servers (hardware)Apr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRoutsource dnsApr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRoutsource "apps"Apr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRopen an accountApr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRtype in credit cardApr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRmemorise GUIApr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRsome stand to benefit from this IT as "consumerist" modelApr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TReven "apps" are now "storee"Apr 27 15:06
schestowitz-TRin palmOS it was not like thisApr 27 15:06
Techrights-secExcept that everything has been outsourced even the outsourcing so there Apr 27 15:08
Techrights-secis nothing there to build upon.Apr 27 15:08
schestowitz-TRbbiabApr 27 16:15
schestowitz-TRdraftApr 27 16:15
Techrights-secackApr 27 16:16
Techrights-secsame preview problem, probably related to HTTPSApr 27 16:16
Techrights-secyep logging out and back in again makes it accessibleApr 27 16:16
Techrights-secThe first paragraph ought to place the article in the series as well as mentionApr 27 16:16
Techrights-secin at least one line what the main point of the article will beApr 27 16:16
Techrights-secHow are Jung and SaM related to M$ and EPO?Apr 27 16:16
Techrights-secLast paragraph ought to have a conclusion or reverse summaryApr 27 16:16
schestowitz-TRI am going to expand the summaryApr 27 16:23
Techrights-sec.Apr 27 16:23
Techrights-secackApr 27 16:23
schestowitz-TRota in a few mins, rianne should do a round for tuxmachines before me to avoid collusion/dupesApr 27 16:24
schestowitz-TRI will record 2 videosApr 27 16:24
schestowitz-TR*collisionApr 27 16:24
Techrights-secthanksApr 27 16:27
schestowitz-TRgonna leave out the "OVER-THE-AIR" updates thingApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRand embedded devicesApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRand small OS aspect Apr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRthat 's used to discredit Linux for being bloatedApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRbut the key point isApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRWindows is a lot worse and a lot less safeApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRso I will focus on thatApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRI won't link to the articles, I can instead show them on the screen in partApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRand make funApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TROTAApr 27 16:28
schestowitz-TRokApr 27 16:30
schestowitz-TRno need to feed them trafficApr 27 16:30
schestowitz-TRyes but not only is windows worse, harder to use and maintain, and a lotApr 27 16:30
Techrights-secokApr 27 16:30
Techrights-secno need to feed them trafficApr 27 16:30
Techrights-secyes but not only is windows worse, harder to use and maintain, and a lotApr 27 16:30
Techrights-sec(really a lot) less safe, all those shortcomings are taken for grantedApr 27 16:30
schestowitz-TR(really a lot) less safe, all those shortcomings are taken for grantedApr 27 16:30
Techrights-secand people have become inured to them and will need to be shaken out of theApr 27 16:30
Techrights-seccomplacancy or apathyApr 27 16:30
schestowitz-TRand people have become inured to them and will need to be shaken out of theApr 27 16:30
schestowitz-TRcomplacancy or apathyApr 27 16:30
Techrights-secyes, all system are not perfect, no that deviation from the ideal is not onApr 27 16:30
schestowitz-TRyes, all system are not perfect, no that deviation from the ideal is not onApr 27 16:30
Techrights-secthe same scale with windowsApr 27 16:30
schestowitz-TRthe same scale with windowsApr 27 16:30
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schestowitz-TRwill have drafts ready soonApr 27 18:21
schestowitz-TRgot holiday apporoved 10-11/52022Apr 27 18:21
schestowitz-TR5/2022Apr 27 18:21
schestowitz-TRi have 26 days for the year, I get to choose whenApr 27 18:21
schestowitz-TRinstead of fixed at quiet times like xmasApr 27 18:21
schestowitz-TRI did not use any in March and April, in effect saving them for laterApr 27 18:21
schestowitz-TRdrafts on the way, will quot you a littleApr 27 18:22
Techrights-sec2 days?Apr 27 18:23
Techrights-secniceApr 27 18:23
schestowitz-TRI say to people that they can read more in IRC to avoid repetitionApr 27 18:23
schestowitz-TRand in #techrights main channel I've not participated much latelyApr 27 18:23
schestowitz-TRit's doing ok on its own, relatively speakingApr 27 18:23
Techrights-secthe quotes are not of high quality thoughApr 27 18:23
Techrights-secgood that IRC is being taken care of on that channelApr 27 18:25
schestowitz-TRas you said, irc can be a "lot of work"Apr 27 18:26
schestowitz-TRalso, it is real time so attention and focus are impactedApr 27 18:26
schestowitzgiven what you sent me this morning, I had to check to see it's not conde nastApr 27 18:45
schestowitzor some other nasty thingApr 27 18:45
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_(magazine)Apr 27 18:45
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Variety (magazine) - WikipediaApr 27 18:45
schestowitzturns out Variety is VERYOLDApr 27 18:45
schestowitz-TRdraft (getting coffee)Apr 27 18:46
Techrights-secit sometimes covers some relevant topics Apr 27 18:59
Techrights-sechttps://www.homegrounds.co/how-long-should-i-boil-coffee-for/Apr 27 18:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.homegrounds.co | How Long Should I Boil Coffee For?Apr 27 18:59
schestowitz-TRso far I saw nothing I disliked about itApr 27 19:01
schestowitz-TRthen again, similar weekly and daily "household" brands got scooped up by Condy Nasty and turned nastyApr 27 19:01
schestowitz-TRVanity Fair is one of them, IRCApr 27 19:01
schestowitz-TRalways reminds me of VarietyApr 27 19:01
Techrights-secwe'll see how well they continue to do, it's been rather good so farApr 27 19:02
Techrights-secThey;ve been in the daily links since 2017Apr 27 19:02
Techrights-secVanity Fair is a whole different audience / genreApr 27 19:04
Techrights-sechttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_(magazines)Apr 27 19:04
Techrights-secThat's Conde NastApr 27 19:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Vanity Fair (magazines) - WikipediaApr 27 19:04
Techrights-secI always feel I have to wash my hands or something after referring to WikipediaApr 27 19:05
Techrights-sec:(Apr 27 19:05
schestowitz-TRhaha, you beat me to itApr 27 19:06
schestowitz-TRI was literally about to open the same in wikipediaApr 27 19:06
schestowitz-TRand didApr 27 19:06
schestowitz-TRonly to realise you already opened tyhe same pageApr 27 19:06
schestowitz-TRThe Internet or Web lack high-quality sites andf those that are good or were good get bought, infiltrated, perturbeApr 27 19:06
schestowitz-TRdApr 27 19:06
schestowitz-TRbecause there is financial incentive to do thisApr 27 19:06
schestowitz-TRin paper form it's trickier to do thisApr 27 19:06
schestowitz-TRSEO, anon edits, threats, DDOS...Apr 27 19:06
Techrights-secI don't trust it but it often contains links to sources that /are/ rather Apr 27 19:07
Techrights-secauthoritativeApr 27 19:07
schestowitz-TRor it REMOVED such linksApr 27 19:08
schestowitz-TRsee OSI/SimmonsApr 27 19:08
schestowitz-TRbecause it's "toxic" to sugest some orgs like EPO or OSI don't defend their missionApr 27 19:08
schestowitz-TRpeople who infiltrate orgs for eprsonal or corporate gain would do the same to sites that write about such orgApr 27 19:09
schestowitz-TRwikipedia, media...Apr 27 19:09
Techrights-secoften the good links get removed from wikipedia, like in the ODF fight M$ put upApr 27 19:34
schestowitz-TR"sponsored" edits are the best edits (Jolliffe)Apr 27 19:35
schestowitz-TRThe shadow "wikipedia economy"Apr 27 19:35
schestowitz-TRthank you, MicrosoftApr 27 19:35
schestowitz-TRfinally there is a "business model"Apr 27 19:35
schestowitz-TRdraftApr 27 19:35
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schestowitz-TRMicrosoft lose more than 600 "top sites" this past month ago https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/27/april-2022-web-server-survey.htmlApr 27 20:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.netcraft.com | April 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft NewsApr 27 20:53
schestowitz-TR*aloneApr 27 20:58
schestowitz-TR1881 active capsules known to Lupa. 1900 shortly. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmiApr 27 20:58
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