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schestowitz>>> Did he specify what was not correct?  If there are genuine errors I tryAug 27 04:27
schestowitz>>> to correct them but if people don't tell me directly and they run aroundAug 27 04:27
schestowitz>>> speaking to people behind my back then I don't know there is anything toAug 27 04:27
schestowitz>>> correct.Aug 27 04:27
schestowitz>> It was about a suicide around xmas, but I cannot recall the details.Aug 27 04:27
schestowitz> I have the coronor's report, the final verdict was accident.  OfAug 27 04:27
schestowitz> particular note, Wayland tried to call 999Aug 27 04:27
schestowitz> Aug 27 04:27
schestowitz> I checked over the blog to make sure the word suicide is not there.  IfAug 27 04:27
schestowitz> you copied the word suicide into any of your posts I would recommendAug 27 04:27
schestowitz> removing it.Aug 27 04:27
schestowitz> Aug 27 04:27
schestowitz> On the other hand, I feel it was an avoidable accident.  Lucy WaylandAug 27 04:27
schestowitz> became very drunk shortly after the Debian Christmas lynchings.  ThisAug 27 04:27
schestowitz> type of thing happens more frequently in organizations with a toxic culture.Aug 27 04:27
schestowitz> Aug 27 04:27
schestowitz> If you email and ring a coronor a few times they eventually release aAug 27 04:27
schestowitz> copy of a report.  As it contains private medical information I don'tAug 27 04:27
schestowitz> feel comfortable forwarding it to anybody myself.Aug 27 04:27
schestowitzMaybe I recall this incorrectly. But somehow said your description of the event was not accurate. Not my words...Aug 27 04:27
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/06/dutch-patent-infringement-review-jan.html?showComment=1598422294917#c5870338167141178922Aug 27 05:30
schestowitz"Aug 27 05:30
schestowitzEli Lilly v FreseniusAug 27 05:30
schestowitzThe decision of the District Court to rule in favour of Fresenius in Kabi is to be welcomed. There is no file wrapper estoppel in Europe as in the US, but the behaviour of the Eli Lilly during prosecution was rightly sanctioned. Eli Lilly just wanted a quick grant and voluntarily accepted a limitation to pemetrexed disodium. Aug 27 05:30
schestowitzThe only example in the application was for this salt. Eli Lilly never attempted in the slightest to show that other salts could apply. Probably it did not have any data at hand to show that other salts could work. Eli Lilly actually discovered the breadth of its invention much later. The decision of the UK Supreme Court created a dangerous precedent and has been followed by too many other courts in Europe. It is to be hoped that Aug 27 05:30
schestowitzthe decision of the District Court will be confirmed in appeal. Aug 27 05:30
schestowitzAuxiliary requestsAug 27 05:30
schestowitzThe District Court does not merely seem to follow European practice, it actually does. On the other hand, it is worth noting that the position taken by Biolitec, that any combination of an invalid independent claim with claims dependent on it should be examined ex-officio corresponds to the position taken by the German Federal court, see X ZR 109/08 -"Sensor arrangement"- of 29.09.2011. Aug 27 05:30
schestowitz"http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/08/breaking-uksc-upholds-decision-in.html?showComment=1598461471744#c3579974240182610260Aug 27 05:33
schestowitz"Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzThe decision is indeed interesting and will certainly be commented widely. Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzA few early comments are due.Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzThe extra-territorial reach of English jurisdiction brought about by this decision resembles quite a lot to the extra territorial reach of US law and jurisdiction. No wonder the UKSC took a USSC decision as a model, even if it the reservations of some justices were mentioned. Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzI always thought that patents had a territorial effect and licences as well. It should be left to the parties whether they wanted to negotiate global agreements, being FRAND or not, or if they want to do it country by country. I consider this decision as a heavy and unjustified intervention in the rights of parties to negotiate agreements. The validity of the patent can only be challenged at national level after the opposition Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzperiod has lapsed at the EPO.Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzIn order to establish equality of arms, it should also then be possible to decide that if a SEP is invalid in one jurisdiction, this invalidity extends to all countries in which the SEP is valid. This could also be part of the contract between SEP holder and licensee. Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzAs it stands, UKSC’s decision give the holder of a SEP an undue advantage which is not justified whatsoever. And lots of trolls are holder of SEP. I not only think of Unwired Planet but also of Conversant, Sisvel and the likes. Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzIs this decision from UKSC an attempt to encourage Forum shopping to English Courts, as now UK has definitely explained that it will not participate to the UPC? The idea of amending UK’s litigation laws so as to become an alternative to the UPC was clearly expressed. It even led some proponents of the UPC to push for a quick ratification of the UPC by Germany! However, a ratified UPC without an amendment of Art 7(2) UPCA appears Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzto be a no-go, as the mess would be total! Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzWhat has happened in UK should not be taken as encouragement for other courts to do the same. After all we have here to deal with legal problems, and even if the idea of a global FRAND license seems at a glance to be based on common-sense, I fear that common-sense is misplaced here. Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzAs far as SEP are concerned, I would suggest to establish a kind of clearing house administrated by the respective Standards Institution, or common to all Standards Institutions. This would make the procedures open and fair to all parties SEP holders and potential licensees. Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzThat SEP are to be challenged like any other patent is not at stake here, and this is a risk to be borne by any SEP holder.Aug 27 05:33
schestowitz"Aug 27 05:33
schestowitzhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8661809/Woman-sacked-literary-agency-anti-trans-comments-Twitter.htmlAug 27 10:15
schestowitzAnon: misogynist trolls still being wound up against JKRowlingAug 27 10:15
schestowitzx https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-26/popular-dark-web-drug-marketplace-suddenly-goes-offlineAug 27 10:18
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schestowitz"https://thegrayzone.com/2020/08/26/israel-bombs-gaza-every-day-since-uae-normalization-announced/Aug 27 14:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thegrayzone.com | Israel bombs Gaza every day since UAE normalization announced | The GrayzoneAug 27 14:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AzradAngeles/status/1298987934964621314Aug 27 16:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AzradAngeles: Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - Hace 1 hora aproximadamente #Techrights Needs Help From American Readers (in Order to R… https://t.co/bEeHikocIZAug 27 16:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AzradAngeles: Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - Hace 1 hora aproximadamente #Techrights Needs Help From American Readers (in Order to R… https://t.co/bEeHikocIZAug 27 16:33
schestowitz"Aug 27 16:33
schestowitzDr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) - Hace 1 hora aproximadamente Aug 27 16:33
schestowitz#Techrights Needs Help From American Readers (in Order to Retrieve the Court Documents Regarding #BillGates Engineer) http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/court-documents-gates-mansion/Aug 27 16:33
schestowitz #courtoom #law #pedophiliaAug 27 16:33
schestowitz"Aug 27 16:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights Needs Help From American Readers (in Order to Retrieve the Court Documents Regarding Bill Gates’ Engineer) | TechrightsAug 27 16:33
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DoItForMaMa/status/1299056615077879815Aug 27 20:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DoItForMaMa: @schestowitz https://t.co/qNXZQWZj6FAug 27 20:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DoItForMaMa: Amazing what Noam Chomsky, Counterpunch, The Nation, Amy Goodman and The Nation have done to I mean for the US Left! Amazing.Aug 27 20:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DoItForMaMa/status/1299056558790373378Aug 27 20:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DoItForMaMa: @schestowitz https://t.co/qNXZQWZj6FAug 27 20:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MalliardReport/status/129898652200422195Aug 27 20:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-No status found with that ID.Aug 27 20:21
schestowitz"Malliard alum and favorite John Carman joins the show to give rapid-fire answers on a number of topics that dominate our twenty-four-hour news cycles today."Aug 27 20:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MalliardReport/status/1298986522004221955Aug 27 20:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MalliardReport: @schestowitz Malliard alum and favorite John Carman joins the show to give rapid-fire answers on a number of topics… https://t.co/1YYSrPSsudAug 27 20:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MalliardReport: @schestowitz Malliard alum and favorite John Carman joins the show to give rapid-fire answers on a number of topics… https://t.co/1YYSrPSsudAug 27 20:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RTR_realtime/status/1298973593884405760Aug 27 20:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RTR_realtime: @schestowitz LMAO RTR @rtrjokesAug 27 20:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WillowWyse/status/1298924482493583360Aug 27 20:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WillowWyse: Good! We should do the same in the UK https://t.co/sfUXAVd7SnAug 27 20:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #PrivateInternetAccess #Denmark #DK #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ The head of Denmark's spy program has been fi… https://t.co/wGZzPGEOcVAug 27 20:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1298917776191565825Aug 27 20:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz Same story for HIV.Aug 27 20:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jrobertson/status/1298914424170913793Aug 27 20:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: What’s a bit different with Chromebooks is that the hardware itself expires. With an “expired Windows 7 laptop,” fo… https://t.co/NHo0LBn9nPAug 27 20:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrobertson: What’s a bit different with Chromebooks is that the hardware itself expires. With an “expired Windows 7 laptop,” fo… https://t.co/NHo0LBn9nPAug 27 20:22
schestowitz"What’s a bit different with Chromebooks is that the hardware itself expires. With an “expired Windows 7 laptop,” for example, you can simply buy Windows 10 .... With a Chromebook there is no option to buy an updated version of ChromeOS—the only answer ... is to buy a new one."Aug 27 20:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Faithful_USA/status/1298904990057029633Aug 27 20:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Faithful_USA: @schestowitz Facebook allowed Chaz/Chop to maintain their pages. Two were murdered. It's that whole goose and gander scenario.Aug 27 20:23
schestowitz"Facebook allowed Chaz/Chop to maintain their pages. Two were murdered. It's that whole goose and gander scenario."Aug 27 20:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MalliardReport/status/1298903620100993024Aug 27 20:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MalliardReport: @schestowitz Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and inf… https://t.co/RJDBAiyIuXAug 27 20:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MalliardReport: @schestowitz Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and inf… https://t.co/RJDBAiyIuXAug 27 20:23
schestowitz"Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and information sources out there; The Gateway Pundit. https://malliard.com/radio"\Aug 27 20:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.malliard.com/radio"\ )Aug 27 20:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dialecticdingo/status/1298901606667292672Aug 27 20:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@dialecticdingo: @schestowitz But did they act on rioters coordinating on Facebook at all?Aug 27 20:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MalliardReport/status/1298888407767298048Aug 27 20:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MalliardReport: @schestowitz Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and inf… https://t.co/tmKfcg6nI1Aug 27 20:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MalliardReport: @schestowitz Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and inf… https://t.co/tmKfcg6nI1Aug 27 20:24
schestowitz"Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and information sources out there; The Gateway Pundit. https://malliard.com/radio"Aug 27 20:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Anthropology77/status/1298802325121892358Aug 27 20:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Anthropology77: @schestowitz When trying to install kali linux dual boot with linux we created partition 40 gb for kali it didn't s… https://t.co/yckkxw7nhJAug 27 20:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Anthropology77: @schestowitz When trying to install kali linux dual boot with linux we created partition 40 gb for kali it didn't s… https://t.co/yckkxw7nhJAug 27 20:25
schestowitz"When trying to install kali linux dual boot with linux we created partition 40 gb for kali it didn't show on kali installation"Aug 27 20:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/toxicreverend/status/1298794444846587911Aug 27 20:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz Smear Campaigns & Fabricated Accusations are only ONE aspect of a MUCH larger Problem: WHY INNOCENT P… https://t.co/Ogi2PYSkELAug 27 20:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz Smear Campaigns & Fabricated Accusations are only ONE aspect of a MUCH larger Problem: WHY INNOCENT P… https://t.co/Ogi2PYSkELAug 27 20:25
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:25
schestowitzSmear Campaigns & Fabricated AccusationsAug 27 20:25
schestowitzare only ONE aspect of a MUCH larger Problem:Aug 27 20:25
schestowitzWHY INNOCENT PEOPLE PLEAD GUILTYAug 27 20:25
schestowitzTO CRIMES THEY DIDN’T COMMITAug 27 20:25
schestowitz{Reference Citation Posted}Aug 27 20:25
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/toxicreverend/status/1298792025861447681Aug 27 20:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz The sex Smear Tactics against Jacob Appelbaum were used against Julian Assange and @realDonaldTrump… https://t.co/1dt9EFmXwQAug 27 20:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz The sex Smear Tactics against Jacob Appelbaum were used against Julian Assange and @realDonaldTrump… https://t.co/1dt9EFmXwQAug 27 20:25
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzThe sex Smear Tactics against Jacob Appelbaum were used against Julian Assange and @realDonaldTrumpAug 27 20:26
schestowitz Aug 27 20:26
schestowitz9B:Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzSEX, SPIES AND LIESAug 27 20:26
schestowitzExplosive dossier on Donald Trump luridAug 27 20:26
schestowitzsex claims was FABRICATED by ex-MI6 spy’Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzby Alahna Kindred, The U.S. Sun, Jan 26 2020,Aug 27 20:26
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/toxicreverend/status/1298789322800295936Aug 27 20:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz What were Julian #Assange and @Snowden trying to warn us about ? Some of the US Intel Agencies that w… https://t.co/9Ulmw2j9YsAug 27 20:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz What were Julian #Assange and @Snowden trying to warn us about ? Some of the US Intel Agencies that w… https://t.co/9Ulmw2j9YsAug 27 20:26
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzWhat were Julian #Assange and @SnowdenAug 27 20:26
schestowitz trying to warn us about ?Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzSome of the US Intel Agencies that were accusing #JulianAssange of Election Tampering with Russia have been documented as having Meddled In At Least 81 Foreign Elections {5}Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzhttps://minds.com/newsfeed/1141147453915607040Aug 27 20:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.minds.com | Propaganda war: Weaponizing the internet | MindsAug 27 20:26
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/toxicreverend/status/1298788111195897856Aug 27 20:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz A key point is "the manner in which the vendetta against Appelbaum spead. Of which appears similar to… https://t.co/Uv9xSBnEZ4Aug 27 20:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz A key point is "the manner in which the vendetta against Appelbaum spead. Of which appears similar to… https://t.co/Uv9xSBnEZ4Aug 27 20:26
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzA key point is "the manner in which the vendetta against Appelbaum spead. Of which appears similar to Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzThe Twitter Smearing Of Julian Assange Aug 27 20:26
schestowitz{by Government Spooks now Private Contractors and named in the linked article W more in Thread}Aug 27 20:26
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/toxicreverend/status/1298784119292190720Aug 27 20:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz WARNING: Prominent Activists Being Framed With Child Porn Information Dump with multiple reference l… https://t.co/R6Y3k3ZjdDAug 27 20:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: @schestowitz WARNING: Prominent Activists Being Framed With Child Porn Information Dump with multiple reference l… https://t.co/R6Y3k3ZjdDAug 27 20:26
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzWARNING: Prominent Activists Being Framed With Child Porn Aug 27 20:26
schestowitzInformation Dump with multiple reference linksAug 27 20:26
schestowitzEdited with Wayback Machine links for censored, 404 or redirected pagesAug 27 20:26
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/toxicreverend/status/1298781932071788544Aug 27 20:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: "Corporate infiltrators rarely reveal when they are acting on company orders like this. Remember the Google motto:… https://t.co/PKMXGewU1tAug 27 20:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@toxicreverend: "Corporate infiltrators rarely reveal when they are acting on company orders like this. Remember the Google motto:… https://t.co/PKMXGewU1tAug 27 20:27
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:27
schestowitz"Corporate infiltrators rarely reveal when they are acting on company orders like this. Remember the Google motto: don't get caught doing evil."Aug 27 20:27
schestowitzQuoted from article posted & linked in the RTAug 27 20:27
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PowerDubs/status/1298719694849839107Aug 27 20:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PowerDubs: @schestowitz Only a few more months! The world’s first blockchain game console. Much still unannounced.… https://t.co/UxW36Rmx8ZAug 27 20:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PowerDubs: @schestowitz Only a few more months! The world’s first blockchain game console. Much still unannounced.… https://t.co/UxW36Rmx8ZAug 27 20:27
schestowitz"Aug 27 20:27
schestowitzOnly a few more months!Aug 27 20:27
schestowitzThe world’s first blockchain game console.Aug 27 20:27
schestowitzMuch still unannounced.Aug 27 20:27
schestowitzhttp://Shop.AtariVCS.comAug 27 20:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-shop.atarivcs.com | HomeAug 27 20:27
schestowitzInfo & video on the Atari partners & projects- Aug 27 20:27
schestowitzhttps://reddit.com/r/AtariChain/comments/ghppnr/atari_token_info/Aug 27 20:27
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schestowitzhttps://ataritokens.com/myportal/login?ref=648d4ab0-7f61-11ea-a71d-00163e0609b7Aug 27 20:27
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schestowitz#AtariVCS  #AtariTokenAug 27 20:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/1298713458309922822Aug 27 20:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@wendycockcroft: Intersectionalism is misogynist. We're screwed if this is our future. https://t.co/sPHG8Jkt6tAug 27 20:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #TheNation ☞ Our Future is Intersectional https://t.co/OBBeDLe4c7Aug 27 20:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gibikha/status/1298713192571363335Aug 27 20:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gibikha: @schestowitz Nice! Racing games are where I find my relaxation!Aug 27 20:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Posty72419509/status/1298657144758243328Aug 27 20:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Posty72419509: @schestowitz Post Malone can save USPS! He gives grant/0%interest loan and USPS renames its self to USPOM (united s… https://t.co/kVZpe1GaMdAug 27 20:28
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Posty72419509: @schestowitz Post Malone can save USPS! He gives grant/0%interest loan and USPS renames its self to USPOM (united s… https://t.co/kVZpe1GaMdAug 27 20:28
schestowitz"Post Malone can save USPS! He gives grant/0%interest loan and USPS renames its self to USPOM (united states post office malone) in return"Aug 27 20:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RNMukMuk/status/1298639738782375942Aug 27 20:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RNMukMuk: @florenciamex @schestowitz .@POTUS Putin controls #EvilTrump & has him by the ⚽️⚽️ https://t.co/7LU08nv82sAug 27 20:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@RNMukMuk: @florenciamex @schestowitz .@POTUS Putin controls #EvilTrump & has him by the ⚽️⚽️ https://t.co/7LU08nv82sAug 27 20:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/florenciamex/status/1298637804767834113Aug 27 20:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@florenciamex: @schestowitz @RNMukMuk Did trumpet write this?Aug 27 20:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MalliardReport/status/1298608982794346498Aug 27 20:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MalliardReport: @schestowitz Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and inf… https://t.co/gGoRsDYhDoAug 27 20:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MalliardReport: @schestowitz Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and inf… https://t.co/gGoRsDYhDoAug 27 20:30
schestowitz"Jim welcomes Joe Hoft to the show. Joe is an author and contributor to one of the largest news and information sources out there; The Gateway Pundit. https://malliard.com/radio"Aug 27 20:30
schestowitz"Aug 27 21:01
schestowitzDear Roy,Aug 27 21:01
schestowitzI have recently come across a very concerning article; I'mAug 27 21:01
schestowitzwriting you this email to notify you about it.Aug 27 21:01
schestowitzhttps://www.theregister.com/2020/08/25/linux_kernel_email/Aug 27 21:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Relying on plain-text email is a 'barrier to entry' for kernel development, says Linux Foundation board member • The RegisterAug 27 21:01
schestowitzThis is a blatant push by Microsoft shackle Linux kernelAug 27 21:01
schestowitzdevelopment to its GitHub platform.Aug 27 21:01
schestowitzI believe an article from you about how email is theAug 27 21:01
schestowitz"freeest" and most flexible platform for submitting GitAug 27 21:01
schestowitzpatches for any open source project would do the LinuxAug 27 21:01
schestowitzcommunity much good.Aug 27 21:01
schestowitzBest wishes,Aug 27 21:01
schestowitz"Aug 27 21:01
schestowitzI spotted that article last night and wrote many posts about it todayAug 27 21:01
schestowitz> its been about a week since i started exploring bsd (for the first time,Aug 27 21:04
schestowitz> not counting debian gnu/kfreebsd) with first-hand experience. here areAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> the latest findings:Aug 27 21:04
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:04
schestowitz> * at this time i have no interest in 64-bit-only dragonflybsd, which isAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> based on freebsdAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> * i have no interest in hardenedbsd, which is based on githubAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> * most flavours of bsd are github-based, with freebsd and openbsd beingAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> the two that have read-only mirrorsAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> * i have installed both freebsd and openbsd, ive used both for realAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> tasks (online and offline)Aug 27 21:04
schestowitz> * both are now running x11Aug 27 21:04
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:04
schestowitz> openbsd self-hosts, and has a strict no-pull-requests policy on theirAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> read-only github mirror. they do not seem likely to sacrifice thisAug 27 21:04
schestowitz> stance, and the bulk of my research will likely become more openbsd-focused.Aug 27 21:04
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:04
schestowitz> freebsd self-hosts, and their policy on pull-requests is de facto, plusAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> it seems likely to become more relaxed.Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> (the director of the freebsd project?) ed maste has a github account,Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> and did a presentation in 2018 on the options for freebsd moving to GITAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> in the future, which acknowledge the way that the read-only repo isAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> forked, used on github and then submit through an individual back to theAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> svn repo. the presentation appears neutral-- almost.Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> i would not be too sure that freebsd would move to github (rather thanAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> git) or change their read-only repo to writeable. they may formaliseAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> their pull request policy, presumably neither to fully accept nor fullyAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> deny pull requests (accept for certain things only, but for more thanAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> nothing).Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> it does "seem" more likely than not that svn will become non-primary ifAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> not deprecated for freebsd.Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> * *of particular note is that pkg itself* (the equivalent of apt-get inAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> freebsd) is developed with github as the *primary repo*. this more thanAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> anything is the reason i will probably not focus on freebsd as much asAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> openbsd.Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> * other reasons to focus more primarily on openbsd include the fact thatAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> hyperbolabsd is based on it (albeit as a fork of github-based libertybsd.)Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> *github-free unix-like operating systems: roughly 0.**Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> *Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> *most-github-free *unix-like operating systems: probably*gnu and openbsd*.Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> i have not gotten pypy to run in openbsd yet-- but my only installationAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> of openbsd so far is not trivial to update. i may decide to install itAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> on better hardware-- this is not a bsd-specific issue, the same machineAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> had the same issue with updating when it was running tiny core.Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Thanks for the report!Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> I never did trust FreeBSD.  They are too morally "neutral" for myAug 27 21:05
schestowitz> taste.  OpenBSD seems to have some principles.Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:05
schestowitz> at any rate. openbsd is the only bsd (apart from hyperbola obviously)Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> which i could recommend to someone who is worried about microsoft.Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> nothing is really untouched at this point-- not gnu, not openbsd. butAug 27 21:06
schestowitz> they are the most independent. (no thanks to the current fghf president.)Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> incidentally:Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gitAug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.freebsd.org | The freebsd-git ArchivesAug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> https://github.com/freebsd/pkgAug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - freebsd/pkg: Package management tool for FreeBSD. Help at #pkgng on Freenode or pkg@FreeBSD.orgAug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ciAug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - freebsd/freebsd-ci: FreeBSD Continuous Integration (CI)Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> https://github.com/freebsd/meetingsAug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - freebsd/meetings: Notes from meetings of various FreeBSD-related groups.Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> https://github.com/freebsd/git_convAug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - freebsd/git_conv: Scripts used for the svn to git conversion of the FreeBSD repositoriesAug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> https://github.com/freebsd/poudriereAug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - freebsd/poudriere: Port/Package build and test systemAug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports-gnomeAug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - freebsd/freebsd-ports-gnome: FreeBSD GNOME development repoAug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-quarterlyAug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - freebsd/freebsd-quarterly: FreeBSD quarterly reportsAug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> those arent mirrors, those are things that freebsd uses github forAug 27 21:06
schestowitz> primarily (as far as i can tell)Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> Aug 27 21:06
schestowitz> poudriere is central to their development infrastructure.Aug 27 21:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18853259#bf655d10c8e501389886639f8ead15d6Aug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Enough with the Linux security FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141314 Aug 27 21:06
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Enough with the Linux security FUD | Tux MachinesAug 27 21:06
schestowitz"wat?"Aug 27 21:06
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