●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 ●● ● Dec 27 [00:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:57] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [00:58] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 27 [01:27] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:28] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7szp5rqe2tdw8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:42] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [01:42] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 27 [02:06] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:06] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Dec 27 [03:38] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [03:40] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:46] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [03:46] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 27 [04:27] schestowitz-TR "I've been relying on Agate since the beginning, but now I increasingly want to serve dynamic content and handle more advanced requests, so it was time to upgrade instead of running little ad-hoc servers on side ports." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-01_gmcapsule.gmi ● Dec 27 [08:29] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 27 [09:13] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:18] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:22] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 27 [10:05] techrightssec2 m$ never bought strong companies with quality products. Even with Nokia they [10:05] techrightssec2 only bought it after their mole had devastated not only its worth and its [10:05] techrightssec2 product line but also its reputation. [10:09] schestowitz-TR strong companies with qualit products need no help from Microsoft [10:09] schestowitz-TR and I should put scare quotes around "help" [10:09] schestowitz-TR Novell was chasing Red Hat [10:09] schestowitz-TR In recent years Red Hat was chasing all sorts of things, inc. AWS [10:09] schestowitz-TR AWS offers RHEL, but most of the "rent" goes towards the landlord [10:09] schestowitz-TR not the company that wheels in a piece of furnishing once in 3 years [10:09] schestowitz-TR I have dozens of parts left in the big series [10:09] schestowitz-TR and some will deal with outsourcing and clown, based on first-hand experience [10:09] schestowitz-TR so I hope there is value in what I learned [10:09] schestowitz-TR btw, I foolishly wasted time in twitter [10:09] schestowitz-TR I landed in one page and then started going astra [10:09] schestowitz-TR until the "where did the time go??" moment [10:09] schestowitz-TR I think I ended up in some qatar BS (World Cup) [10:09] schestowitz-TR watching some shitposts of a Manchester United footballer [10:09] schestowitz-TR either way: lesson learned, stay away! [10:09] schestowitz-TR I did do a video about twitter 2 days ago [10:09] schestowitz-TR mentioned KSA and Qatar along the way [10:16] schestowitz-TR --- [10:16] schestowitz-TR some outdated messages [10:16] schestowitz-TR removed personal things [10:16] schestowitz-TR it's OK now [10:24] schestowitz-TR --- [10:24] schestowitz-TR wanted to add: the above is applicable to mastodon also [10:24] schestowitz-TR they also do "trending" and the like [10:24] schestowitz-TR they mimick "enagagement" BS [10:24] schestowitz-TR and it's hard to keepo tracki of ongoing comms [10:24] schestowitz-TR so they are best off avoided entirely [10:24] schestowitz-TR for focus and reliable info [10:39] techrightssec2 ack [10:43] schestowitz-TR it is worse than you think [10:43] schestowitz-TR in latest falkon, in debian 10 at least, even having js does not let me into "modern" mastodon [10:43] schestowitz-TR iow, it is shitware [10:44] schestowitz-TR one of the bloggers you follow analysed the code [10:44] schestowitz-TR said it was the 2010s standard [10:44] schestowitz-TR I'd go further back [10:44] schestowitz-TR and say 1990s standards would be fine [10:44] schestowitz-TR someone in irc, dfc iirc, said that the story of eich and js was, [10:44] schestowitz-TR it got 'accidentally added to nettscape after he had tinkered or tested something [10:44] schestowitz-TR so no foresight [10:44] schestowitz-TR sort of like acvctivex, except that one was intended to add vendor lock-in [10:44] schestowitz-TR rather than functionality [10:44] schestowitz-TR apropos js, git was written only briefly by torvalds [10:44] schestowitz-TR months iirc [10:44] schestowitz-TR quick hack [10:44] schestowitz-TR later it was adopted and improved by others [10:44] schestowitz-TR sort of like jimbo and sagner with wikipedia [10:54] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:54] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Dec 27 [11:04] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [11:04] techrightssec2 Re-scraping TM-old at the moment. Started wget many hours ago. [11:05] schestowitz-TR I am getting a db copy off of it atm [11:05] schestowitz-TR *atm [11:05] techrightssec2 ok so the two actions will slow it down quite a bit [11:15] techrightssec2 Just aiming for getting the complete gallery and nothing more for now. [11:24] schestowitz-TR ok, done. got 3 DB states [11:24] schestowitz-TR before disk issues, after repair, and latest [11:24] schestowitz-TR when we get fibre here in 5 weeks I should be able to make proper backups of file systems too [11:24] schestowitz-TR I hope you have one of TR< even if outdated [11:25] schestowitz-TR biab [11:25] schestowitz-TR hardly feels like we had holiday, weekend++ [11:43] schestowitz-TR this routine can be good all year long [11:43] schestowitz-TR but... [11:43] schestowitz-TR the important thing is, stress should be kept down [11:43] schestowitz-TR I slept 8 hours last night, first time in years, I think [11:49] schestowitz-TR EFF still intentionally ignoring EPO crimes in Europe. Selective attention, as decided by wealthy sponsors (owners) of EFF. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/12/adoption-eus-digital-services-act-landmark-year-platform-regulation-2022-year | Source: EFF [11:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | The Adoption of the EU's Digital Services Act: A Landmark Year for Platform Regulation: 2022 in Review | Electronic Frontier Foundation ● Dec 27 [12:03] schestowitz-TR louisiana https://truthout.org/articles/louisiana-communities-organize-to-defend-libraries-from-far-right-censorship/ | Source: TruthOut [12:03] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Louisiana Communities Organize to Defend Libraries From Far Right Censorship - Truthout [12:10] techrightssec2 ack [12:35] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:35] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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