●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, January 28, 2023 ●● ● Jan 28 [00:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 28 [03:28] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:28] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 28 [04:11] schestowitz-TR gm [04:11] schestowitz-TR gm [04:11] techrigthssec gm [04:11] techrigthssec gm [04:12] schestowitz-TR plenty of good progress [04:12] schestowitz-TR plenty of good progress [04:12] schestowitz-TR disk space doubled [04:12] schestowitz-TR disk space doubled [04:12] schestowitz-TR main remaining tasks are [04:12] schestowitz-TR main remaining tasks are [04:12] schestowitz-TR daily links pipeline [04:12] schestowitz-TR daily links pipeline [04:12] schestowitz-TR and irc stuff [04:12] schestowitz-TR and irc stuff [04:12] techrigthssec excellent ####################################### [04:12] techrigthssec excellent ####################################### [04:12] techrigthssec by clearing old files or by adding new storage? [04:12] techrigthssec by clearing old files or by adding new storage? [04:13] schestowitz-TR debian 11 [04:13] schestowitz-TR debian 11 [04:13] schestowitz-TR brand new ssd [04:13] schestowitz-TR brand new ssd [04:13] schestowitz-TR tons of stuffed restored [04:13] schestowitz-TR tons of stuffed restored [04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce [04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably [04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce [04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably [04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page [04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce [04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably [04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page [04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce [04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably [04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper, [04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper, [04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating [04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating [04:25] techrigthssec the archive? [04:25] techrigthssec the archive? [04:25] techrigthssec onto paper, [04:25] techrigthssec onto paper, [04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating [04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating [04:25] techrigthssec the archive? [04:25] techrigthssec the archive? [04:25] techrigthssec --- [04:25] techrigthssec --- [04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce [04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably [04:25] techrigthssec In tm-old, the "printer friendly version" could have been and ought to havce [04:25] techrigthssec been done only in CSS, plus it is an anachronism. I think it's probably [04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper, [04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating [04:25] techrigthssec the archive? [04:25] techrigthssec very extremely rare for anyone to try to print out a web page onto paper, [04:25] techrigthssec especially short ones. I guess those links can be disabled when creating [04:25] techrigthssec the archive? [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ? [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> I am missing that file. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> Regards, [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > I am too. It is not in Git. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > file itself appears never to have entered the repository. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup? I too checked git, but only files related to it were there. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] Cheers! [04:39] schestowitz[TR] PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time. I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> Do you still have daily-supplementary-feeds.sh ? [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> I am missing that file. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> Regards, [04:39] schestowitz[TR] >> [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > I am too. It is not in Git. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > Checking the Git history, there is one comment mentioning it but the [04:39] schestowitz[TR] > file itself appears never to have entered the repository. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] Can it maybe be recovered from an old backup? I too checked git, but only files related to it were there. [04:39] schestowitz[TR] Cheers! [04:39] schestowitz[TR] PS - I'm nearly there back to normal, all it takes is time. I've posted this much-needed drive change for almost a year. [04:46] *schestowitz[TR2] has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [04:48] schestowitz-TR bbulletin working fully now [04:48] schestowitz-TR irc next [04:48] schestowitz-TR for now, no irc blog post [04:48] schestowitz-TR working on it... [04:48] schestowitz-TR bbulletin working fully now [04:48] schestowitz-TR irc next [04:48] schestowitz-TR for now, no irc blog post [04:48] schestowitz-TR working on it... [04:48] schestowitz-TR bbulletin working fully now [04:48] schestowitz-TR irc next [04:48] schestowitz-TR for now, no irc blog post [04:48] schestowitz-TR working on it... [04:48] schestowitz-TR bbulletin working fully now [04:48] schestowitz-TR irc next [04:48] schestowitz-TR for now, no irc blog post [04:48] schestowitz-TR working on it... ● Jan 28 [07:28] techrigthssec "No IRC file for 2023-01-27 yet as of 2023-01-28 07:26:36 UTC. [07:28] techrigthssec " [07:28] techrigthssec np [07:28] schestowitz-TR working on it atm ^_^ [07:44] schestowitz-TR only today there will be duplicate lines [07:44] schestowitz-TR still testing and working on it ####################################### [07:44] schestowitz-TR making a two-machine redundancy thing [07:44] schestowitz-TR only today there will be duplicate lines [07:44] schestowitz-TR still testing and working on it ####################################### [07:44] schestowitz-TR making a two-machine redundancy thing [07:44] schestowitz-TR only today there will be duplicate lines [07:44] schestowitz-TR still testing and working on it ####################################### [07:44] schestowitz-TR making a two-machine redundancy thing [07:44] schestowitz-TR for the logs [07:56] schestowitz-TR very pleased by speed of recovery [07:56] schestowitz-TR inc.. hw repairs [07:56] schestowitz-TR expect some creases at first [07:56] techrigthssec ack [07:56] techrigthssec nice [07:56] techrigthssec I presume a local shop had a suitable SSD. It normmally take a week or two at [07:56] techrigthssec least otherwise ● Jan 28 [08:36] techrigthssec trying [08:36] techrigthssec IRC logs have duplicate lines [08:36] schestowitz-TR yes, i have corrected for the next day [08:36] schestowitz-TR did a lorof testing too [08:51] techrigthssec It turns out that the lines really are duplicares, so it may be that piping [08:51] techrigthssec the files through uniq will solve that. [08:54] schestowitz-TR yeah, this is solved going forward [08:54] schestowitz-TR ijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubi [08:54] schestowitz-TR maybe we can make thesame but more comprehesive? [08:54] schestowitz-TR i am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did not [08:54] schestowitz-TR also read in quiterss was gamingonlinux [08:54] schestowitz-TR it would be nice to figure out how to free up time [08:54] schestowitz-TR to do more articles [08:54] schestowitz-TR i already sleep little ^_^ [08:54] schestowitz-TR took a ton of rss obboard [08:54] schestowitz-TR this is good if well managed ● Jan 28 [09:00] techrigthssec Oops not qiute [09:00] techrigthssec How are you and Rianne at XML in Python? [09:01] schestowitz-TR yeah, this is solved going forward [09:01] schestowitz-TR ijust searched for any copies ofsuppmmentary shell script on bubi [09:01] schestowitz-TR maybe we can make thesame but more comprehesive? [09:01] schestowitz-TR i am not too sad about it because the main good feed there rhat i did not [09:01] schestowitz-TR also read in quiterss was gamingonlinux [09:01] schestowitz-TR it would be nice to figure out how to free up time [09:01] schestowitz-TR to do more articles [09:01] schestowitz-TR i already sleep little ^_^ [09:01] schestowitz-TR took a ton of rss obboard [09:01] schestowitz-TR this is good if well managed [09:01] schestowitz-TR just had kitchen chat about this, 5-20 min [09:01] schestowitz-TR doing more coding to take itfurther would be nice [09:01] schestowitz-TR the progreams are all force multipliers [09:01] schestowitz-TR and other sites cannot keep up [09:39] schestowitz-TR looking at least rss_since [09:40] schestowitz-TR i wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapper [09:40] schestowitz-TR maybe almost identical to another [09:40] schestowitz-TR but taking another list of URLs [09:40] schestowitz-TR from a file [09:40] schestowitz-TR that might explain why git does not have it? [09:40] schestowitz-TR looking at least rss_since [09:40] schestowitz-TR i wonder if the missing file was merely a wrapper [09:40] schestowitz-TR maybe almost identical to another [09:40] schestowitz-TR but taking another list of URLs [09:40] schestowitz-TR from a file [09:40] schestowitz-TR that might explain why git does not have it? [09:58] techrigthssec The XML in OPML is very simple, not much more complex than DL in HTML ● Jan 28 [10:01] schestowitz-TR ryan just wrote about cnet getting caught spewing out hey hi garbage as articles [10:01] schestowitz-TR i think the www will leave people fatigued and cynical [10:01] schestowitz-TR either way, i am happy to have this new drive [10:01] schestowitz-TR maybe this lapto can last 5 years now [10:01] schestowitz-TR newer distro too [10:01] schestowitz-TR i still need to adjust it [10:01] schestowitz-TR took my sister a week to adapt after debian 0 to 11 shock [10:01] schestowitz-TR i cannot find any way to install synergy so fat [10:01] schestowitz-TR (far [10:01] schestowitz-TR the company wants money [10:01] schestowitz-TR but i have contingencies [10:02] techrigthssec I would have thought that Devuan would be a good choice. [10:02] techrigthssec Barrier is the FOSS equivalent to Synergy iirc [10:02] schestowitz-TR i used both in tabdem [10:02] schestowitz-TR it was hard to configure this week [10:02] schestowitz-TR and i forgot how i did it [10:09] techrigthssec I generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for later [10:12] schestowitz-TR i think i'd like to think laterally for a bit how to better assess ad survey news over rss [10:12] schestowitz-TR i have been doing the same thing for 20 years [10:12] schestowitz-TR there must be a better way then rssown, thunderbird, and quiterss [10:12] schestowitz-TR for instance, clustering of related theme [10:12] schestowitz-TR more efficiency means broader coverage, faster [10:12] schestowitz-TR each time i rebuild it gives a change to start afresh with another approach/focus [10:12] schestowitz-TR i've not yet restored quiterss, only installed it [10:15] techrigthssec I generally keep hard-to-figure-out configuration examples in notes for later [10:15] techrigthssec One way would be to read the OPML file into a database and then use the [10:15] techrigthssec database to fetch the feeds which are ready for fetching and create an HTML [10:15] techrigthssec file of the results to browse. The advantage is that the real browsers are [10:15] techrigthssec much better suited for browsing than QuiteRSS and its competitors are. The [10:15] techrigthssec biggest down side is that no browsers allow markign a link as "unread". [10:15] techrigthssec Doing it in Perl would be relatively easy and quite good qualitu but for [10:15] techrigthssec political purposes Python3 would be a more strategic option since certain [10:15] techrigthssec communities are investing in Python training. [10:15] schestowitz-TR in 2005 ish [h]omerfrom cols/usenet, who slaso started our irc channel in freenode, developed [10:15] schestowitz-TR a parser in python for rss feeds, for usenet [10:15] schestowitz-TR but it didn't go far, it did not do anything too witty [10:16] techrigthssec The OPML input is easy, and there seem to be good XML parsers for Python3 [10:16] techrigthssec but the examples provided in the documentation are simmplistic to the point\ [10:16] techrigthssec of being almost irrelevant [10:21] schestowitz-TR good [10:21] schestowitz-TR to put it one way, next 5 days might be slow/catching up [10:21] schestowitz-TR but i expect the next 5 years to be good and productive [10:21] schestowitz-TR with so many hours freed up and proper sleep [10:21] schestowitz-TR i want to work on processing of information [10:21] schestowitz-TR this can also be done for geminispace [10:21] schestowitz-TR at a much smaller scale [10:21] schestowitz-TR the core issue many have is, [10:21] schestowitz-TR too much 'information' [10:21] schestowitz-TR with so littke signal [10:21] schestowitz-TR sites that parrot PR [10:21] schestowitz-TR sometimes varghese does this too (again) [10:21] schestowitz-TR i am going to move all video making to obs studio and alter preview.sh to do the metadata right [10:22] schestowitz-TR i have worked to make the pipeline less dependent on one physical machine [10:23] schestowitz-TR 8 machines here are always turned on with undertilised CPUs/capacity [10:23] schestowitz-TR we get fibre this coming week, this time they do is PROPERLT [10:23] schestowitz-TR not experimental like summer 2021 [10:24] techrigthssec How fast fibre will it be? If there is a price difference for faster there [10:24] techrigthssec is not much point in going over 100Mb/s because nearly every web server [10:24] techrigthssec is sluggish and the pages they serve clogged with remote objects and scripts [10:24] techrigthssec to ensure that the page does not render faster than 15 seconds any way [10:24] schestowitz-TR exactly [10:24] schestowitz-TR i told them that [10:43] schestowitz-TR that is the equivalent of my unis and clients that get 128 core machines [10:43] schestowitz-TR that are like... idle 80% of the time [10:43] schestowitz-TR so the capacity only helps bursts ● Jan 28 [11:42] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 28 [12:11] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:26] schestowitz[TR] mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-latest-tmp.8FuruXm' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/latest-news.html': Permission denied [12:26] schestowitz[TR] Writing the RSS feed for HTTP [12:26] schestowitz[TR] mv: cannot move '/tmp/refresh-tmp.XnNWoa/feed-xhtml-tmp.tr9ADHx' to '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/feed.xml': Permission denied [12:28] schestowitz-TR just wondered if work is being done there [12:28] schestowitz-TR happened twice, node seems to be saved, but the above happens [12:35] techrigthssec try now [12:35] techrigthssec just folded blogs into the document root but it may have disturbed some of the [12:35] techrigthssec directory permissions despite best efforts [12:35] schestowitz-TR thanks, it is ok now [12:38] techrigthssec Great. Sorry about the disturbance [12:38] techrigthssec See now http://news.tuxmachines.org/blog/ [12:38] techrigthssec Some of the static links there might be adjusted but the main problematic [12:38] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Blogs | Tux Machines [12:38] techrigthssec links like for login or registration have been deactivated. [12:39] schestowitz-TR thanks, some of the links ther work, some do not [12:39] techrigthssec Which do not? [12:40] schestowitz-TR individual pages of the posts for example [12:43] techrigthssec Can you give some examples, the ones I tested work so it appears that parts [12:43] techrigthssec may be missing but which ones? [12:43] schestowitz-TR oddly enough the same pages seem to work now^_^ [12:47] techrigthssec That was the IDS apparently. It is not yet tuned to the new pages :( [12:47] techrigthssec I'll leave it off for now, but will have to add more conditionals to it. [12:48] schestowitz-TR thanks for that!\ [12:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 28 [13:05] techrigthssec It'll need to be tuned properly since it will turn on in its current [13:05] techrigthssec incarnation (or whatever is saved) at next reboot [13:24] techrigthssec The Apache2 logs have not been rotating, there seem to have been double [13:24] techrigthssec configurations there for logrotate.d [13:24] techrigthssec Checking [13:24] techrigthssec There is an error in ssl.conf for apache2 [13:24] techrigthssec The file itself was in the way because the main configuration file covers TLS [13:24] techrigthssec nowadays. [13:24] techrigthssec It was from 17 jan. I wonder if apk packaging does that with the updates? [13:24] techrigthssec I sure hope not. [13:24] schestowitz-TR rotstion of the access logs almost never worked [13:24] schestowitz-TR since august [13:31] techrigthssec Ok. Log rotation /should/ work now. I just checked via the daily shell script [13:31] techrigthssec The defective SSL file has been moved out of the way, but there is a small [13:31] techrigthssec question about the Certificate since it generates a warning. [13:31] techrigthssec """ [13:31] techrigthssec server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE [13:31] techrigthssec """ [13:31] techrigthssec I wonder if the system updates themselves break the custom rotation rules? [13:55] techrigthssec Hmm. The blogs should have gone under /old [13:55] techrigthssec I wonder if it is feasible to try to move them. [13:55] techrigthssec Probably not since it would require doing modifications to many, many href [13:55] techrigthssec attributes. [13:56] schestowitz-TR i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my end [13:56] techrigthssec git pull origin master [13:56] techrigthssec or do you mean clone ? ● Jan 28 [14:00] schestowitz-TR i forgot what comment to run to checkout TM git at my end [14:00] schestowitz-TR need to first configure where to connect [14:00] schestowitz-TR the keys work for ssh [14:00] techrigthssec Yes that configuration data goes in ~/.ssh/config [14:00] techrigthssec so then you can do: [14:00] techrigthssec git clone tm-git:tuxmachines.org [14:00] techrigthssec or some other shortcut [14:00] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:01] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[14:59] techrigthssec You'll need a proper entry in ~/.ssh/config for news.tuxmachines.org [14:59] techrigthssec It must include both IdentityFile and IdentityOnly and it would be a good idea [14:59] techrigthssec if it also includes User too [14:59] techrigthssec then [14:59] techrigthssec git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org [14:59] techrigthssec that path is modifiable ● Jan 28 [15:03] schestowitz-TR warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. [15:05] schestowitz-TR big progress though [15:05] schestowitz-TR thank you [15:05] schestowitz-TR i almost caught up with all of the links you sent today and yesterdy [15:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:39] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@fpfsqjchsbkme.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:39] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:52] schestowitz-TR did not sleep much last night [15:52] schestowitz-TR still catching up [15:52] schestowitz-TR made massive progres today though! [15:52] schestowitz-TR i want to soon figure out how to better analyse and assess feeds [15:52] schestowitz-TR the, today I thought of a way to also apply camelcase to them in TM [15:52] schestowitz-TR gn ● Jan 28 [21:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6jq6vuqtwjwx8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 28 [22:06] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Jan 28 [23:05] techrigthssec git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org; cd tuxmachines; git checkout master; [23:05] techrigthssec ^cd tuxmachines.org [23:05] techrigthssec XOR [23:05] techrigthssec git clone tm:/home/git/tuxmachines.org -b master [23:20] schestowitz-TR done :))))