●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, May 28, 2022 ●● ● May 28 [02:23] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hfgdd2bwrsgpn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 28 [03:02] Techrights-sec The ~stack post misses the point that it is a full, general-purpose computer. [03:02] Techrights-sec not a microcontroller. However, the complaints about the exploitation by [03:02] Techrights-sec scalpers still stand. ● May 28 [04:25] schestowitz-TR Yes, I did not fancy the headline [04:25] schestowitz-TR However, I do find some rather interesting new nuggets in Gemini [04:25] schestowitz-TR there are many neirdos there [04:25] schestowitz-TR but also some technical people [04:25] schestowitz-TR and the technical stuff is not jujsta bout gemini, gopher etc. [04:25] schestowitz-TR some of it is about software or "Internet" freedom [04:25] schestowitz-TR the sorts of things we do tgend to dabble in every now and then [04:25] schestowitz-TR I've tried to take advantage of the extra time to reorganise here [04:26] schestowitz-TR I have some enhancements in mind for the "planet" [04:26] schestowitz-TR I also added some domains to the camelcase file which, together with the toc, make up [04:26] schestowitz-TR very good and now more frequent Dasily Links [04:26] schestowitz-TR no other site comes close to providing such a news service [04:26] schestowitz-TR meanwhile, fossforce stopped publishing new things [04:26] schestowitz-TR Christine has just published another Microsoft puff piece via LF in some third party site [04:26] schestowitz-TR That's where the money is.... ● May 28 [05:16] schestowitz-TR today's gz files, for second day in a row, all OK [05:16] schestowitz-TR I'll be afk in a moment ● May 28 [07:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 28 [08:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [08:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 28 [10:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:19] schestowitz-TR incomplete draft [10:19] schestowitz-TR afk [10:19] schestowitz-TR ota [10:19] schestowitz-TR organising the oifice space today [10:19] schestowitz-TR whgile time fof work lasts [10:27] Techrights-sec ack [10:27] schestowitz-TR I've just turned ipfs back on, tso latency is higher ● May 28 [12:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [12:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 28 [13:22] Techrights-sec ack [13:22] Techrights-sec see ~lars/bin/tc-shaper-08.sh [13:22] Techrights-sec (untested) [13:23] schestowitz-TR I overslept [13:23] schestowitz-TR maybe I should say "slept well" [13:23] schestowitz-TR sorry, and thanks, I'll test the file now [13:36] Techrights-sec ack [13:36] schestowitz-TR many of the remaining Errors follow, from thw absence of something [13:39] Techrights-sec I don't get any errors here so aomething might be missing there [13:40] schestowitz-TR I will try to mess with it.... [13:47] schestowitz-TR the "add" and "replace" commands are failing, same error, I'll dig into that [13:47] schestowitz-TR maybe tc got upgraded [13:47] schestowitz-TR I use version: [13:47] schestowitz-TR tc -V [13:47] schestowitz-TR iproiute2-5.9.0 libbpf 0.2.0 [13:47] schestowitz-TR kernel loaded 5.10.63-V71+ [13:52] Techrights-sec # tc -V [13:52] Techrights-sec tc utility, iproute2-5.9.0, libbpf 0.3.0 [13:52] Techrights-sec # uname -sr [13:52] Techrights-sec Linux 5.15.32-v8+ [13:52] Techrights-sec # lsb_release -rd [13:52] Techrights-sec Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) [13:52] Techrights-sec Release: 11 [13:52] Techrights-sec (raspberry pi os) [13:53] schestowitz-TR I wonder how you got a kernel so new and why my kernel became so broken after a reboot [13:53] schestowitz-TR with error on reboot and then no wifi [13:53] schestowitz-TR if there a package that gets me on a more suitable kernel? [13:55] schestowitz-TR at the moment cost of the available system updates are CUPS packages [13:55] schestowitz-TR and then there's the emergency (JS) firefox esr fix [13:56] Techrights-sec not sure [13:56] Techrights-sec # apt-cache policy raspberrypi-kernel | head -n 3 [13:56] Techrights-sec raspberrypi-kernel: [13:56] Techrights-sec Installed: 1:1.20220331-1 [13:56] Techrights-sec Candidate: 1:1.20220331-1 ● May 28 [14:02] schestowitz-TR # apt-cache policy raspberrypi-kernel | head -n 3 [14:02] schestowitz-TR gives me the same output [14:02] schestowitz-TR # uname -sr [14:02] schestowitz-TR gives me 5.10.something [14:02] schestowitz-TR I think all these issue might boil down to the kernel [14:02] schestowitz-TR I didn't check how the raspi kernel selector worked [14:02] schestowitz-TR for fear I'd boot into something that locks me out by virtue of not even boostrapping [14:08] schestowitz-TR is it possible that when it boots is attempts to load the latest kernel, then fails, then loads some rather old one instead [14:08] schestowitz-TR as a fallback? [14:08] schestowitz-TR it's booting too fast for me to read everything [14:08] Techrights-sec did you change /boot/config.txt [14:09] schestowitz-TR i did not change it, I saw it and did not notice options of relevance there, but I will check again now [14:25] schestowitz-TR I am reading a bunch of forum threads about people with kernel issues after updates [14:25] schestowitz-TR and various things not working after that [14:25] schestowitz-TR my hunch is that tc and wlan0 and a bunch of smaller things are [14:25] schestowitz-TR impacted by the kernel changes [14:25] schestowitz-TR I used dpkg to check versions of things [14:25] schestowitz-TR and the CLI raspi config tool (ncurses) [14:25] schestowitz-TR I don't want to risk breaking the system completely [14:25] schestowitz-TR maybe I should just turn ipfs on and off until the next kernel update is available [14:25] schestowitz-TR and then hope it'' fix things [14:25] schestowitz-TR I don't want to install anything experimental [14:25] schestowitz-TR as I said, the usb (which I plugged into the black port, so it was slow) [14:25] schestowitz-TR still has wifi working and I assume tc as well [14:25] schestowitz-TR but it's about a month out of data and after system update, which is neeed [14:25] schestowitz-TR for security reasons, it would likely inherit those very same problems [14:51] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:52] schestowitz-TR Rwading on this further, namewly how to revert back tom previously-used kernel, what I find are mostly [14:52] schestowitz-TR hacks and third-party shit that puts at risk the booting sequence and integrity of the system [14:52] schestowitz-TR given the nature of this system (file system, server etc.) I don't wish to take this risk [14:52] schestowitz-TR maybe treat the nwew script you make as "coming soon" and assume the system is temporarily [14:52] schestowitz-TR incapacitated until next time kernel becomes available? In the mean time I will not back whole system, just [14:52] schestowitz-TR /home, as it doesn't have the binaries anyway ● May 28 [15:00] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:00] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:06] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [15:06] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:46] schestowitz [02:29] Did you ever see that Alex Jones prison planet thing? [02:29] [02:29] I watched it for shits and giggles and because I was broke college student [15:46] schestowitz [02:30] I don't think highly of him ^_^ [15:46] schestowitz [02:30] it helps understand some people [15:46] schestowitz [02:30] But the theory about everything getting automated and then slowly getting killed off[02:30] and what appeals to them [15:46] schestowitz [02:30] So that the elite can become cyborgs and live forever off of the rest of earths resources and travel space [15:46] schestowitz [02:30] alex jones = start with a grain of truth [15:46] schestowitz [02:30] than provoke a little [15:46] schestowitz [02:30] Which is also the plot to a 70s anime galaxy express 999[02:30] than add fictional agenda stuff [15:46] schestowitz [02:30] and sell shit to cranks [15:46] schestowitz [02:31] Yeah exactly grain of truth that turns into a shit storm [15:46] schestowitz [02:31] yeah [15:46] schestowitz [02:31] Just like Chem trails lol they put sand in the cloud and make rain [02:32] I saw this back in like 2009 so don't judge me too much[02:32] it helps discredit people by entrapping them [15:46] schestowitz [02:32] It was free and I laughed the whole time [15:46] schestowitz [02:32] its a common disinformation tactic [15:46] schestowitz [02:32] we wrote a lot about this for ages [15:46] schestowitz [02:33] like all this "5g causes covid" and "changes your dna" BS [15:46] schestowitz [02:33] Yeah that's what Alex did to me [15:46] schestowitz [02:33] distracts from legit criticisms [15:46] schestowitz [02:33] With all the BS about she showed up to my parents house [15:46] schestowitz [02:33] l;like patents [15:46] schestowitz [02:33] Because you stole my keys [15:46] schestowitz [02:34] the ALLEGEDLY $200,000,000 man... [15:46] schestowitz [02:34] enjoying his little cell [15:46] schestowitz [02:34] toxic person [15:46] schestowitz [02:34] I guess[02:34] "fun to be around with, but..." [15:46] schestowitz [02:34] He's probably in population [15:46] schestowitz [02:35] He honestly wasn't even that fun to be around[02:35] But I am super fun so it's hard to live up to that [15:46] schestowitz [02:35] You know it's like the whole Taylor Swift thing[02:36] It makes men angry when women are funny ● May 28 [17:23] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [17:23] schestowitz "Percentage Used: Contains a vendor specific estimate of the percentage of NVM subsystem life used based on the actual usage and the manufacturers prediction of NVM life. A value of 100 indicates that the estimated endurance of the NVM in the NVM subsystem has been consumed, but may not indicate an NVM subsystem failure. The value is allowed to exceed 100. Percentages greater than 254 shall be represented as 255. This value shall be updated [17:23] schestowitz once per power-on hour (when the controller is not in a sleep state)." [17:23] schestowitz https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/652623/how-to-evaluate-the-wear-level-of-a-nvme-ssd [17:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-unix.stackexchange.com | smartctl - How to evaluate the wear level of a NVMe SSD? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange [17:24] schestowitz-TR I am not approaching 129%. [17:24] schestowitz-TR *now [17:24] schestowitz-TR did some research into it, in order to better understand why SMART issues a warning and how to debug further [17:25] schestowitz-TR like I said, this machine does not have critical data anymore, but it is used heavily [17:27] schestowitz https://linux.die.net/man/8/smartctl [17:27] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linux.die.net | smartctl(8) - Linux man page [17:27] schestowitz "ssd - [SCSI] prints the Solid State Media percentage used endurance indicator. A value of 0 indicates as new condition while 100 indicates the device is at the end of its lifetime as projected by the manufacturer. The value may reach 255." [17:27] *activelow (~activelow@cqjpy6v75mdaq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:28] *activelow has quit (Quit: nyaa~) [17:29] *activelow (~activelow@cqjpy6v75mdaq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:45] *activelow has quit (Quit: zzz) [17:47] *activelow (~activelow@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:47] *activelow has quit (Quit: nyaa~) [17:47] *activelow (~activelow@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:58] Techrights-sec the new script is for nftables the old script should still work [17:58] Techrights-sec unless iptables is removed [17:59] schestowitz-TR thanks! Much appreciated. I guess eome future distros/releases will have iptables deprecated entirely [17:59] schestowitz-TR so it is good to be future-proof [17:59] schestowitz-TR ipfs isn't great, but it did improve (like 10 times faster to "add") in recent releases ● May 28 [18:01] Techrights-sec ack [18:01] schestowitz-TR draft btw (while video encodes) [18:05] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:06] schestowitz-TR now uploading the remainder, eta 18 mins [18:06] schestowitz-TR I think this hits Microsoft where it hurts most (developers developers...) [18:24] *activelow (~activelow@8tzi6shhd2jf2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:25] schestowitz-TR howtoforge pushing tons of aws lately [18:25] schestowitz-TR instead of real howtos [18:25] schestowitz-TR clountoforge [18:25] Techrights-sec ack [18:25] Techrights-sec that's not so much from howtoforge itself but more how the site is being gamed [18:25] Techrights-sec it's very vulnerable to gaming like that [18:26] schestowitz-TR The "Linux" section of Slashdot is part-time Windows marketing section that helps Microsoft attack and smear "Linux" ● May 28 [19:04] Techrights-sec not part-time, most of the time; and most of the rest of the time it is a [19:04] Techrights-sec FUD generator; I've only ever accidentally clicked on a /. link since aroudn [19:04] Techrights-sec 2013 or 2014 [19:04] Techrights-sec I'm not even sure which company owns the site any more [19:05] schestowitz-TR see draft re slashdot [19:07] schestowitz-TR the current owners of the site, Logan, used to be in Techrights IRC saying things would improve [19:07] schestowitz-TR and trying to convince us to change the wiki [19:07] schestowitz-TR as time went on he broke his promise [19:07] schestowitz-TR there's no money in promoting freedo [19:21] Techrights-sec the is, it's just that the opponents are far more focused on tearing down [19:21] Techrights-sec freedom and well organized against it. Those promoting freedom are not [19:22] schestowitz-TR mnnot many people even grasp p the underlying concpts [19:22] schestowitz-TR so there is explaining to be done [19:22] schestowitz-TR so that there will be more of us [19:22] schestowitz-TR not just demanding STEAM on "Linux" [19:25] schestowitz-TR many people vagely relate to the concepts and the importance [19:25] schestowitz-TR e.g. period-tracking "apps" [19:25] schestowitz-TR so we can change thevocabulary uses [19:25] schestowitz-TR EFF won't do it for us [19:25] schestowitz-TR it will misframe the problem [19:25] schestowitz-TR EFF target audience and donors are billionaires [19:25] schestowitz-TR corporations [19:25] schestowitz-TR and cofee sippers from "Gay/Bay Area" [19:25] schestowitz-TR they don't want to turn off JS [19:25] schestowitz-TR or stop dropping it by the megabytes into Web pages [19:25] schestowitz-TR they also use Macs [19:25] schestowitz-TR like the people who run the EFF [19:26] Techrights-sec Sad demise for the EFF. [19:26] Techrights-sec JS is just a vehicle for locking out FOSS and tying sites to use of specific [19:26] Techrights-sec browsers once again. [19:28] schestowitz-TR I still remember EFF wasting a month trash-talking pgp because of web pages disguised as "email" [19:28] schestowitz-TR and then promoting shitty "apps" instead [19:28] schestowitz-TR I totally lost respect for EFF at that point, a couuple of years before they decided that freedom [19:28] schestowitz-TR fighters were in fact their enemies [19:28] schestowitz-TR except ones called "alaa" (fattah) [19:28] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@m3h7xx4jwbe6e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [19:28] Techrights-sec EFF has been anti-email in general for a while [19:28] Techrights-sec ack [19:37] schestowitz-TR do you know how to sniff out the mail server/services ued by eff.org? [19:37] schestowitz-TR I can have a go at it myself [19:37] schestowitz-TR if you do not [19:37] schestowitz-TR maybe they have their own SamreenGas inside the EFF [19:37] schestowitz-TR it's not like they have many techs left, it's a political wing and a badge/name for rental [19:37] schestowitz-TR running one's email server is not easy when the techs leave, so sooner or later they will outsource [19:37] schestowitz-TR and say "the clown", even if that directly contradicts the EFF's position on privacy [19:37] schestowitz-TR I have som emails from eff.org, but that was years ago, infra may have changesd [19:45] Techrights-sec ack [19:45] schestowitz-TR web site and domain are vm1.eff.org in SF [19:45] schestowitz-TR with 59 domains under this address [19:45] schestowitz-TR those are other eff domains [19:45] schestowitz-TR ports open http/s [19:45] schestowitz-TR not the others, e.g. dns [19:45] schestowitz-TR domains are [19:45] schestowitz-TR trollingeeffect org [19:45] schestowitz-TR httpsnow org [19:45] schestowitz-TR sesta org [19:45] schestowitz-TR about face org [19:45] schestowitz-TR all sorts of eff campaign sites [19:45] schestowitz-TR inc. very old ones [19:45] schestowitz-TR there is smtp.slpha.eff.org [19:45] schestowitz-TR *alpha [19:51] Techrights-sec ack ● May 28 [21:32] schestowitz-TR "Briefly want to sidetrack and tell you something. Computers were built different back then. I never experienced the craftsmanship that went into some of these older machines until the thinkcentre. 'The dinostation' is a IBM certifed 50 pound hunk of solid stainless steel. The case is the most solid and well-built of its kind that Ive personally handled." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-05-28-raspberry-pi- [21:32] schestowitz-TR affordabilit [21:47] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:50] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● May 28 [22:05] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #boycottnovell [22:05] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #boycottnovell MinceR [22:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)