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| schestowitz-TR | the patent troll now sounds more like bullshitting | Sep 28 05:21 |
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| schestowitz-TR | the long PDFs have turned into just emails asking for money | Sep 28 05:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am ignoring of course | Sep 28 05:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday due to irc I did not find any time to do articles, but my notes are still intact and maybe I'll get it done shortly | Sep 28 05:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | without videos even | Sep 28 05:21 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 06:32 |
| Techrights-sec | :) | Sep 28 06:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | <schestowitz> >> Someone has asked me, will you give a talk on swpats or UPC at | Sep 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | [06:38] <schestowitz> > > LibrePlanet? | Sep 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | [06:38] <schestowitz> > I could. | Sep 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | [06:38] <schestowitz> > I was preparing one for this saturday Software Freedom Day at HSBXL.be. | Sep 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | talking about the issue openly would make the event not a "Safe space" | Sep 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're talking about this in the IRC channel this morning | Sep 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | FSF has been sanitised out of any revolutionary element | Sep 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of a sixth sense for corporate acceptance | Sep 28 06:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | or acceptance of corporate shills like those who signed the petiion | Sep 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | last night "The Linux Experiment" published a video entitled Microsoft isn't the enemy | Sep 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | or something to that effect | Sep 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | RMS is the enemy | Sep 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft is not | Sep 28 06:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | -The Linux Experiment | Sep 28 06:45 |
| Techrights-sec | CoCs are, as known, used to silence various topics unrelated to civil rights etc | Sep 28 06:46 |
| Techrights-sec | What a tool, a dumbfuck. | Sep 28 06:46 |
| Techrights-sec | How can a non-idiot become so detached from reality without being on the take? | Sep 28 06:46 |
| Techrights-sec | Holy shit, it's right there in the title: | Sep 28 06:46 |
| Techrights-sec | https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/microsoft-isn't-the-enemy-of-linux-and:3 | Sep 28 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | MICROSOFT isn't the ENEMY of Linux and FOSS anymore, but it's no friend either... | Sep 28 06:46 | |
| Techrights-sec | What a tool || fool he is. | Sep 28 06:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | one step away from calling people who oppose Microsoft "enemies" | Sep 28 06:47 |
| Techrights-sec | basically and he seems to soft-pedal the 1990s while glossing over the 1980s | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | He tries to spin the behaviors as past actions and not ongoing, continued | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | attacks against everyone and everything. At least he almost called them out | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | over OOXML but missed out a key point that *no one* not even m$ uses it. | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | And he bullshits on WSL, overstating its capabilities. The kernel | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | 'contributions' are mistaken for help rather than dumping crap m$-orient | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | code. | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | He observes, correctly, that m$ aims to control now via the "cloud" | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | He misses the core of the problem with GitHub | Sep 28 07:01 |
| Techrights-sec | M$ Co-pilot, unlike his claim, is a copyright infringing service. | Sep 28 07:02 |
| Techrights-sec | Definitely not his best video. He's off badly in each segment. | Sep 28 07:02 |
| Techrights-sec | "secure-core" | Sep 28 07:06 |
| Techrights-sec | the thicker part of the wedge, long after the thin edge | Sep 28 07:06 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic | Sep 28 07:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Sep 28 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | does that refer to something in an article? | Sep 28 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | secure core? | Sep 28 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | back doors agencies like NSA misframe security" | Sep 28 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they hijack and change the words | Sep 28 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could dop a video rebuttal to nick, maybe... | Sep 28 07:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless playing him back (playback) does more harm than good | Sep 28 07:07 |
| Techrights-sec | secure-core has hardly been covered at all; remember 20+ years ago when M$ | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | tried to acquire Pheonix or AMI BIOS? I forget which. That was when theyu | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | laid out their strategy to *also* beging lock-in from the hardware on up. | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | Not just from the OS on down. I'm missing a few steps but secure-core appears | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | to be a certification programme where restricted boot is not just on by default | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | but on permanently in such a way as to prevent non-M$ systems from booting. | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | Anyway as for the draft, a reminder about the anti-RMS petition tied to the | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | unfounded smear campaign is needed. The campaign was based on baldfaced lies | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | which too many, out of apparent eagerness to lynch RMS or destroy FOSS, | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | did not examine. | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | Then a /proper/ rebuttal of nick's video is needed. The above draft was pushe | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | d out halfbaked. :/ | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | The whole video does not necessarily have to be address, just pick apart | Sep 28 07:13 |
| Techrights-sec | the recurring themes. | Sep 28 07:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | i've already published that | Sep 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | should I do a video later? | Sep 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | i did not watch the video | Sep 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe better not to play it back at all and focus on the other topics (3) i have in drafts | Sep 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, i will move the irc notes to draft | Sep 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | to respond to later | Sep 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | i need to avoid irc today | Sep 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | to get articles done | Sep 28 07:14 |
| Techrights-sec | Thanks! | Sep 28 07:14 |
| Techrights-sec | IRC is a time sink at best | Sep 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | so i have 4 drafts, i will do a video for each, then work on text, | Sep 28 07:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe past midday | Sep 28 07:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 07:17 |
| Techrights-sec | revisit bandwidth and web page bloat | Sep 28 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ^ topic | Sep 28 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec | there are no small pages any more, nor much of any server-side activty, | Sep 28 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec | despite some countries still requiring small pages as part of defence | Sep 28 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec | readiness | Sep 28 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec | That may be a key reason why m$ and its controlling interests have started | Sep 28 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec | their nearly all-out campaign to disparage and eliminate SSH | Sep 28 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Part of that can be subversion of the developent process, too | Sep 28 07:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Afterall, m$ has been "helping" OpenSSH for a while ... | Sep 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | If we get to the point of U-boat revisited, I think Techrights won't be the highest priority | Sep 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | small pages can be sent over satellite | Sep 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless they too get gunned down | Sep 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | ssh access is low b/w | Sep 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | but for visitors there are constrained | Sep 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | ipfs is... becoming interesting | Sep 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | the raison detre of the Internet | Sep 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | during cold war | Sep 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | -- | Sep 28 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | just finished shaving, but the battery of it is awful. it's a 1990s appliance with battery last replaced around 2009 | Sep 28 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | not much incentive to replace it anymore | Sep 28 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, got 5 topics now | Sep 28 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | will try to stick to plan | Sep 28 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of text and URLs I can reuse, so writing can be a very smooth process | Sep 28 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said, my workflow is all wrong | Sep 28 07:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | due to priorities being impulsive | Sep 28 07:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | momentum, not rationale | Sep 28 07:47 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 07:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | our longest (time) client is a company that helps track and prevent damage to undersea cables | Sep 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's not worthy of a mention | Sep 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have 5 topics now | Sep 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | probably too much | Sep 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I have a load of rss feeds and links to catch up with first | Sep 28 08:35 |
| Techrights-sec | probably not good to mention | Sep 28 08:36 |
| Techrights-sec | fwiw, theatre: https://internet.nl/site/news.tuxmachines.org/1719977/ | Sep 28 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-internet.nl | Website test: news.tuxmachines.org | Sep 28 08:36 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | "we ticked all the boxes in the ISO form and still got cracked" ;-) | Sep 28 08:39 |
| Techrights-sec | among other things, it objects to the site vouching for its own TLS certificates | Sep 28 08:49 |
| Techrights-sec | https://internet.nl/site/news.tuxmachines.org/1719977/#control-panel-21 | Sep 28 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-internet.nl | Website test: news.tuxmachines.org | Sep 28 08:50 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | to avoid pressure,/stress/borderline burnout i will assign priorities to topics | Sep 28 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the lesser ones can wait till weekends when it is quiet | Sep 28 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said, the pipeline thing is still work in progress | Sep 28 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | i just knoew we can publish more and better | Sep 28 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're just done a run outside, it got very cold here, feels like November | Sep 28 10:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | just checked a ssecond weather sourcce, the one I use over gemini, not curl | Sep 28 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it says it was 2 degrees last night | Sep 28 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | super-cold for Sept. | Sep 28 10:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | "summer of record-breaking heat waves sweeping the northern hemisphere from Europe to China to California" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/27/confront-climate-crisis-universities-must-refuse-fossil-fuel-industry-funding | Source: Common Dreams | Sep 28 10:54 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | To Confront the Climate Crisis, Universities Must Refuse Fossil Fuel Industry Funding | Paul G. Nauert | Sep 28 10:54 | |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | safe to say that no matter where one lives, it's hard to find good news | Sep 28 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and uncertainty is growing over a whole range of issues | Sep 28 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | after all, it's one planet, same 'league' | Sep 28 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we hear of people we know losing everything, falling into depression, or sinking into both | Sep 28 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of good journalism now gets demoted | Sep 28 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it is seen as a "luxury" topic and not as urgent as several more pressing issues | Sep 28 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | which I think worsens accountability | Sep 28 11:35 |
| Techrights-sec | I would also guess that the diminishing of journalism is closely tied to | Sep 28 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | the ongoing media consolidation which was allowed to start in the 1980s | Sep 28 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | There's now not even a handful of companies which own more or less all | Sep 28 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | media in the US, for example. May regions there do not have coverage from | Sep 28 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | more than one company and many more don't even have a source which actually | Sep 28 11:40 |
| Techrights-sec | reports on local news. | Sep 28 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | (just a casual observation) | Sep 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | apathy to news, based on immediate priorities | Sep 28 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Not just apathy but those news deserts which were mentioned the other day. | Sep 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | no news is good news(tm) | Sep 28 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | :/ | Sep 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least you know what I meant | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | important things compete with | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | a) immediate fear (war) | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | b) clickbait | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | c) screen time monopolists | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think in the long run the important stories will be worth it | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | because a b and c mean that nobody else covers them | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm almost done with links, can start recording sooner than expected | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the gbp sank | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I don't think it affects rianne and I much | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a number of reasons | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | i know people whom this hurts very badly | Sep 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | --- | Sep 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are two parallel things that guage progress | Sep 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | one is written, docuemneted material | Sep 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | antoher is immaterial knowledge and narrative | Sep 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | that can be leveraged letter to explain issues | Sep 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | one is about material output | Sep 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | another is potential per se | Sep 28 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think on a number of topics we have the ability to cover properly | Sep 28 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | and explain certain issues well | Sep 28 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | glyn moody is still barely visible | Sep 28 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think doctorow was very busy with a book lately | Sep 28 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | books are a waste of time | Sep 28 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | young people perceive them as non grata | Sep 28 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | availability is another problem and it'll worsen over time | Sep 28 11:50 |
| Techrights-sec | I wish Glyn maintained a feed or a list or something so that it would be | Sep 28 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | easier (i.e. possible) to find his current work. He is easily one of the | Sep 28 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | top two or three remaining tech writers. | Sep 28 11:52 |
| Techrights-sec | Young people not only /don't/ read many actually, in practice, /can't/ read. | Sep 28 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | done feeds from kate | Sep 28 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | will let rianne do the first round in quiterss later | Sep 28 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | posting daily links now | Sep 28 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | so far on schedule, as planned | Sep 28 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | even 7 mins ahead of schedule | Sep 28 11:53 |
| *Techrights-sec2 is now known as ts2 | Sep 28 11:59 | |
| psydruid | my nieces read and even work in order to be able to buy books | Sep 28 12:13 |
| psydruid | but it may be a cultural thing | Sep 28 12:13 |
| psydruid | as in being too consumed by other media | Sep 28 12:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | OTA shortly | Sep 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: books last long | Sep 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if you liek the books, you can take them places | Sep 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | or give to a friend | Sep 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | not everything being "tech" is better | Sep 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | books don't need backup and battery changes | Sep 28 12:14 |
| psydruid | I have lots of books, mainly in boxes at the moment | Sep 28 12:15 |
| psydruid | but I have the ones I am reading here | Sep 28 12:16 |
| psydruid | tech books I mostly have in digital form these days because they are more ephemeral | Sep 28 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | tech books lose value very fast | Sep 28 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | because tech changes feast | Sep 28 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | case of point: value of C++ book from 1995 | Sep 28 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | verrsus | Sep 28 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | how to play guitar, 1995 | Sep 28 12:18 |
| psydruid | I only bought The C++ Programming Language Third Edition in 1998 | Sep 28 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | is it still worth a look? | Sep 28 12:21 |
| psydruid | I have relatively few tech books | Sep 28 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | online docs might be a lot more up to date | Sep 28 12:21 |
| psydruid | no, it has been superseded by newer standards | Sep 28 12:21 |
| psydruid | I've finished most of Stroustrup's newer book A Tour of C++ about C++17 | Sep 28 12:22 |
| psydruid | but yeah, you know where to get those | Sep 28 12:23 |
| psydruid | keeping people on the treadmill is the name of the game | Sep 28 12:24 |
| psydruid | so I jumped 20 years ahead by reading this book | Sep 28 12:24 |
| psydruid | I don't know how people keep up with all the new stuff, as it's simply too much | Sep 28 12:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: i programmed a lot | Sep 28 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | less in recent years | Sep 28 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but teens and 20s a lot | Sep 28 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some of that published | Sep 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I learned what code becomes useless shita | Sep 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | *shit | Sep 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | before I spent more time writing online and doing irc etc. | Sep 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | bash seems to have a good shelf life | Sep 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | gnu tools are good items to use | Sep 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | python and php are not | Sep 28 12:27 |
| psydruid | I generally don't write crappy code, so I manage to keep it updated over time | Sep 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | even worse for larger frameworks | Sep 28 12:28 |
| psydruid | yeah | Sep 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | lego building with modules (perl, ruby etc.) is still risky | Sep 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | because you then depend on each package in the chain | Sep 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | for each distro you choose | Sep 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | compiling from source can become hard | Sep 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like some new glib | Sep 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | tbh, | Sep 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | me being defeatist | Sep 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | all code sucks | Sep 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and can be written with the assumption of being only temporarily useful | Sep 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | watch xul | Sep 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | and old android "apps" | Sep 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot even run them anymore | Sep 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | time wasdted | Sep 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | your stack is yours | Sep 28 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but... | Sep 28 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | the android users on the treadmill | Sep 28 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot run the binaries you run locally | Sep 28 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | so even if you can compile the darn thing | Sep 28 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | or make an apk | Sep 28 12:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | they won't be able to "sideload" it | Sep 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you are at the mercy of Gulag | Sep 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't touch any lang that Gulah controls even a little | Sep 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | *Gulag | Sep 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if it seems technically OK | Sep 28 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | ghts-news> Is it time to boycott Ubuntu yet? https://ubuntu.com//blog/microsoft-sql-server-on-ubuntu | Sep 28 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The benefits of running Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu Pro | Ubuntu | Sep 28 12:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- The benefits of running Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu Pro | Ubuntu | Sep 28 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> of does "boycott Microsoft" already cover Canonical too? | Sep 28 12:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mark Shuttleworth (MS) is married with kids. The wife is Satya and the kids are equally evil. | Sep 28 12:40 |
| psydruid | I consider Gulag a disturbing force in the free software world | Sep 28 12:40 |
| psydruid | And avoid anything they come up with including Android | Sep 28 12:41 |
| psydruid | I still don't know why we can't just install our own software on generic "phones" and "tablets" | Sep 28 12:42 |
| psydruid | There should be legislation forcing manufacturers to free up these devices so support for them can be maintained for longer times | Sep 28 12:43 |
| Techrights-sec | back | Sep 28 12:44 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: they tried, but too little | Sep 28 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to slow things down and standardise | Sep 28 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | far too little, too late | Sep 28 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | EU at least | Sep 28 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | OTA 5 in a row | Sep 28 12:45 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 12:45 |
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| schestowitz-TR | 5 videos done | Sep 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | this was easier than last time | Sep 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | because I learned some tricks | Sep 28 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec | Great | Sep 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | like giving files a filename after I'm done | Sep 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and also moving from one laptop to another to lower the load | Sep 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll have the first draft ready soon, it was processing while I recorded the 5th | Sep 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | I mstopped nicks video at 4:30 | Sep 28 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it seemed like then he would start parroting Microsoft lies | Sep 28 14:22 |
| Techrights-sec | BTW: https://walledculture.org/walled-culture-the-book-now-freely-available-what-that-means-and-how-you-can-help/ | Sep 28 14:29 |
| Techrights-sec | ISBN still unknown | Sep 28 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/walled-culture-the-book-now-freely-available-what-that-means-and-how-you-can-help/ ) | Sep 28 14:29 | |
| Techrights-sec | ISBN -> 978-946459495-9 | Sep 28 14:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR | draft | Sep 28 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | our proxy has its own user level account on an SBC with not much sensitive on it | Sep 28 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | ipfs, gemini.. | Sep 28 14:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | trolls are time-consuming because it's hard tro refrain from resonding to uttered words you know to be false | Sep 28 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | i'm still editing the draft a little, but you can preview and help spot typos | Sep 28 15:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | no summary yet | Sep 28 15:01 |
| psydruid | professional Microsoft trolls are a drain on society and the economy | Sep 28 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Sep 28 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and forums | Sep 28 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can see context in another channelk | Sep 28 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | adding summary now | Sep 28 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | tradeoff between clarify and using limited timew wisely | Sep 28 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | feel free to ignore me | Sep 28 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to carry on doing other things | Sep 28 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you are busy, i'll go ahead | Sep 28 15:10 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 28 15:10 |
| Techrights-sec | "here" should not be the hyperlink's anchor, the text in the anchor should | Sep 28 15:10 |
| Techrights-sec | be "S.4913 Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022" or just "S.4913" | Sep 28 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | or just "Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022", something semantically | Sep 28 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | meaningful. | Sep 28 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | thank you. finalising. then the ns1/net article. | Sep 28 15:14 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Sep 28 15:29 |
| Techrights-sec | likewise "says this page" should not be the anchor text, but instead | Sep 28 15:29 |
| Techrights-sec | "The overwhelming majority of computers in the world rely on open source code freely available code that anyone can contribute to," | Sep 28 15:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, already pressed publish and moved n :/ | Sep 28 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | *on | Sep 28 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | found many typos, too | Sep 28 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | (typos don't bother me in irc, but it's a troll's best friend for ad hom, esp. if it's in the site | Sep 28 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now an irc network (irc bot or me directly)) | Sep 28 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | third one in in drafts now | Sep 28 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | i've strarted working on the second, which is longer and thus harder | Sep 28 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | the 3rd one is short | Sep 28 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can see the draft | Sep 28 15:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | quotes you a bit | Sep 28 15:51 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 16:07 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 28 16:07 |
| Techrights-sec | best not to quote that, it was off the record private | Sep 28 16:07 |
| Techrights-sec | For how many more product cycles will "secure boot" have the opion to be | Sep 28 16:41 |
| Techrights-sec | turned off in UEFI and for how many more Vist release will Vista allow that | Sep 28 16:41 |
| Techrights-sec | option to even exist? | Sep 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | mjg59_: ^ | Sep 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | you vandal | Sep 28 16:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | this will haunt you for years | Sep 28 16:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who know better will remember who to blame | Sep 28 16:42 |
| psydruid | I knew when I got my first system with UEFI it would also be my last one (within boundaries) | Sep 28 16:49 |
| psydruid | so mjg59_'s life's work is all for nothing but a paycheck | Sep 28 16:50 |
| psydruid | that he will take into his grave anyway | Sep 28 16:50 |
| psydruid | that laptop from 6 years ago works just as well today as it did back then | Sep 28 16:51 |
| psydruid | so his sabotage will have diminishing returns over time | Sep 28 16:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | there should be antitrust actions | Sep 28 16:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | there were some | Sep 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | he undermined them | Sep 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a Pentagon salary | Sep 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | now he uses those salaries to run around and get peopple to deliver food to his door | Sep 28 16:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | like slaves | Sep 28 16:55 |
| psydruid | it's pity money | Sep 28 16:56 |
| psydruid | I wouldn't want that blood money | Sep 28 16:56 |
| psydruid | the best thing to do is to freeze such people out | Sep 28 17:04 |
| psydruid | maybe even to get their assets seized | Sep 28 17:05 |
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| schestowitz-TR | draft | Sep 28 17:32 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 17:32 |
| Techrights-sec | quite good | Sep 28 17:32 |
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| schestowitz-TR | workking on 4 and 5 in tadem | Sep 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | no drafts yet | Sep 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | *tandem | Sep 28 18:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Sep 28 18:01 |
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| Techrights-sec | Corporate or corporations? | Sep 28 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe it would be good to avoid athropomorphizing them and instead point out | Sep 28 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | that they are a group of people? | Sep 28 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | The paragraph starting "and they didn't even .." probably ought to be joined | Sep 28 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | with some of the preceding sentences and the paragrah split above that join? | Sep 28 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | If at all. | Sep 28 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | The acronym DPA needs to be expanded. <abbr title="something"> at the least | Sep 28 18:04 |
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| schestowitz-TR | thanks, doing a second (final) pass now | Sep 28 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | then the response to nick's video | Sep 28 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Sep 28 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec | nick's video was disappointing but not as bad as it initially looked however | Sep 28 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec | not good just disappointing | Sep 28 18:08 |
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| Techrights-sec | It is clickbait but that does not stop him from expressing troubling statements | Sep 28 18:27 |
| Techrights-sec | and glossing over problems. Like I said, it is very disappointing. | Sep 28 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I called it clickbait | Sep 28 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | upon listening to it the first time | Sep 28 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the self-harming kind of clickbaiot | Sep 28 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | like phoronix | Sep 28 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | the story ends with a boy eaten by wolves by doing it too much | Sep 28 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | i left aside uefi as a futurew [topic] | Sep 28 18:41 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | top comment: microsofter | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are often there | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | but this one even admits it | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | the comment has a full generic name of a female | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you know Microsoft PR has put that site under "observation" for perception management | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | disagreeing is potential "sexism" | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why i stay well away from sh****les like reddit and hackernes | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't want to srestle with pigs | Sep 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | only the pigs GET PAID for it | Sep 28 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | but then the pig gets paid some more | Sep 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | d | Sep 28 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | raft | Sep 28 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 28 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec | s/peraon/person/ ? | Sep 28 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec | The animated GIF is on a loop :( | Sep 28 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec | instead of just running once or twice | Sep 28 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec | It has been a long time since FF lost the ability to stop those from cycling | Sep 28 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec | endlessly. | Sep 28 18:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | i really ought to limit emes to just [meme]-labeled post | Sep 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks for pointing this out | Sep 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | i will take a deserved break now... | Sep 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | then catch up with rss | Sep 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne kept tm up to date with the other contribs | Sep 28 19:01 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Sep 28 19:02 |
| Techrights-sec | nice | Sep 28 19:02 |
| Techrights-sec | should tm have an rsync mirror in to topologically (networkwise) distinct | Sep 28 19:02 |
| Techrights-sec | locations? | Sep 28 19:02 |
| Techrights-sec | s/to/two/ | Sep 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, definitely | Sep 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | it also acts as data backup | Sep 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just downtime resistance (can mess with dns) | Sep 28 19:02 |
| Techrights-sec | Which machine can be the second host for that? | Sep 28 19:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | will think about it after a nap ;-) | Sep 28 19:03 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 28 19:03 |
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