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schestowitz-TR2did I miss anything?Oct 28 07:19
techrights-sec[2]nothing missed except a heads up about maintenance##########################Oct 28 07:53
techrights-sec[2]startpage, however, had moved to requiring javascript a few days ago and as ofOct 28 07:53
techrights-sec[2]today blocks most functionality (at least from GNU/Linux)Oct 28 07:53
techrights-sec[2]There were ways past it until a few days ago.  Oct 28 07:53
schestowitz-TR2weird. I thought it had moved to requiring it like 4-5 years agoOct 28 07:53
schestowitz-TR2quite a day in wall street!Oct 28 07:53
techrights-sec[2]I don't follow LARPing or LARPers, so what happened to the LARPers? aka wallstreetOct 28 07:54
schestowitz-TR2companies are re-adjusting to their real valueOct 28 07:55
schestowitz-TR2some close shop, accepting their fateOct 28 07:55
techrights-sec[2]closing shop is too good for many of them :(Oct 28 07:56
schestowitz-TR2the clown-first company is still firing "azure" workers (it's just a label)Oct 28 07:57
techrights-sec[2]That firing should be highlighted, to counter the bullshit they spew aboutOct 28 07:58
techrights-sec[2]their over-priced, underpowered, unreliable hosting services.Oct 28 07:58
techrights-sec[2]OkOct 28 07:58
schestowitz-TR2I already did a mention of this the other dayOct 28 07:58
schestowitz-TR2in TR quick blog postOct 28 07:58
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techrights-sec[2]How much of the "revenue" attributed to azure is simply the result of       Oct 28 08:33
techrights-sec[2]transferring line items from other parts of the budget?Oct 28 08:33
techrights-sec[2]^ topic ?Oct 28 08:33
schestowitz-TR2the problem is, I don't have enough infoOct 28 08:33
schestowitz-TR2also,we don't know real numbersOct 28 08:33
schestowitz-TR2laid off, lossesOct 28 08:33
schestowitz-TR2the media just parrots liarsOct 28 08:33
techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 09:11
techrights-sec[2]what about these clowns: https://uapi-group.org/Oct 28 09:11
techrights-sec[2]?Oct 28 09:11
techrights-sec[2]microsoft and amazon == drmOct 28 09:11
techrights-sec[2]automated links are not available today, may take a whileOct 28 09:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-uapi-group.org | The Linux Userspace API (UAPI) Group | The Linux Userspace API GroupOct 28 09:11
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schestowitz-TR2are you rebuiilding a system?Oct 28 09:13
schestowitz-TR2that uapi site looks unsavouryOct 28 09:13
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schestowitz-TR2are you rebuiilding a system?Oct 28 09:18
schestowitz-TR2that uapi site looks unsavouryOct 28 09:18
schestowitz-TR2BREAKING: trip canceled, aunt covid-positiveOct 28 09:28
techrights-sec[2]:(Oct 28 09:28
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schestowitzthe ticket (rail) is lost, but they can't tell if she travels or not (no "app"), so that's a plausOct 28 09:55
schestowitzcontigency: weekend rider (friday 6am-monday 1am unlimited rides in all stations, starting this evening) https://tfgm.com/public-transport/tram/ticket-prices/zones/4?search=/public-transport/tram/ticket-pricesOct 28 09:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tfgm.com | Tram ticket prices | Transport for Greater ManchesterOct 28 09:55
schestowitzthe trams are mostly empty in weekends and we can clock about 5 hours on the tram, going places to see places while the weather is mild here (14-16 degrees in daytime)Oct 28 09:56
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techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 09:58
schestowitz-TR2she took days off work, dressed up, tidied up the home etc.Oct 28 09:59
schestowitz-TR2so it's a nice fallback (my idea)Oct 28 09:59
schestowitz-TR2we'll go to trafford centre area tonight, a new line that only opened recrntly and we never went toOct 28 09:59
schestowitz-TR2when the gov treats covid-19 like something that doesn't matterOct 28 10:01
schestowitz-TR2while (as noted several times in irc yesterday) about 9000 EXTRA deaths are Oct 28 10:01
schestowitz-TR2registered in england and wales each monthOct 28 10:01
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schestowitz-TR2checking trails for sat and sunOct 28 11:10
schestowitz-TR2the tram system has about 150 stationsOct 28 11:10
schestowitz-TR2this makes it easier to get aroundOct 28 11:10
schestowitz-TR2even just to natureOct 28 11:10
schestowitz-TR2at a low cost of 6.80pp for 3 daysOct 28 11:10
schestowitz-TR2don't want to do much indoorsOct 28 11:10
schestowitz-TR2taking advantage of warm winter periodOct 28 11:10
schestowitz-TR2so might be afk a lotOct 28 11:10
matteobinI'll be in London in two weeks. I hope the weather will be decent.Oct 28 11:12
schestowitz-TR2matteobin: if you come up north near manchester,let us knowOct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2techrights-sec[2]: Oct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2oh! now I see where ciaran is!Oct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2from fsf... now "Member for: 1 month" in JOINUPOct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2good stuffOct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2he looks a lot older now, shaved his headOct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2Org: "OpenForum Europe"Oct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2that's very LF- and ICBM-alignedOct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2but at least he still advocated FOSS Oct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2I see he is active in the joinup site this past monthOct 28 11:13
schestowitz-TR2I did wonwder where ha had vanishedOct 28 11:13
techrights-sec[2]checkingOct 28 11:16
techrights-sec[2]https://static.fsf.org/fsforg/rss/news.xmlOct 28 11:16
techrights-sec[2]https://static.fsf.org/fsforg/rss/blogs.xmlOct 28 11:16
techrights-sec[2]ohOct 28 11:16
techrights-sec[2]checking joinup nowOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2how do you check the site for updatesOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2I spke to Gjives of whatever his name wasOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2after they had changed drupal and killed off the rss feedsOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2I am trying to find rss feeds at the momentOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2no success so farOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2(I meant joinup, not fsf)Oct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2fsf has done too little latelyOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2but I think due to attacks on themOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2I hope we can prevent the same being done to us one dayOct 28 11:16
schestowitz-TR2joinuoOct 28 11:18
schestowitz-TR2page source: no mention of xml, feed, rssOct 28 11:18
schestowitz-TR2there is, however, TWO linked at LINKEDIN at the bottom rightOct 28 11:18
schestowitz-TR2yuck!Oct 28 11:18
schestowitz-TR2and they seem to be (still) using drupal because it is belgianOct 28 11:18
techrights-sec[2]joinup has no feed, it has to be checked manually:Oct 28 11:19
techrights-sec[2]https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/keep-up-to-date#solr_number_resultsOct 28 11:19
techrights-sec[2]Drupal has a feed plugin perhaps if you also write them askingfor it to beOct 28 11:19
techrights-sec[2]added they will add it.Oct 28 11:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/keep-up-to-date#solr_number_results )Oct 28 11:19
schestowitz-TR2rianne and I asked (by email) like 8 years agoOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2they said they'd look into itOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2but nothing came out opf itOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2prior to that they had offered rss feedsOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2rianne found stuff and linked to hellenius or whatever his surname was a lotOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2he was reading TM while running JoinUpOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2I've not seen his name for agesOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2ciaran seems quirte active nowOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2he did some fine with with rms, focusing on swpatsOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2including but not only eu/epoOct 28 11:21
schestowitz-TR2lots of TR overlapOct 28 11:21
techrights-sec[2]They have no contect information thoughOct 28 11:22
techrights-sec[2]https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/innersource-summit-2022Oct 28 11:22
techrights-sec[2]:(Oct 28 11:22
techrights-sec[2]They seem to be pushing Slack (the proprietary one not Slack as in Slackware)Oct 28 11:22
techrights-sec[2]and M$ Teams and such.Oct 28 11:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Resolving timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/innersource-summit-2022 )Oct 28 11:22
schestowitz-TR2nobody is perfect, there is only one EU. I'd rather ignore this, mock this, and look for the better activityOct 28 11:23
schestowitz-TR2and encourage that with linkingOct 28 11:23
matteobinschestowitz-TR2: I'll be only in London for an adventure/narrative games exposition, just a couple of days.Oct 28 11:23
schestowitz-TR2i seeOct 28 11:24
schestowitz-TR2sorry, we don't travel outside manchester these daysOct 28 11:25
schestowitz-TR2since 2020Oct 28 11:25
matteobinBecuase of COVID?Oct 28 11:25
schestowitz-TR2rianne just canceled a tripOct 28 11:25
schestowitz-TR2yes, COVIDOct 28 11:25
schestowitz-TR2her aunt told us this morning she contracted itOct 28 11:25
schestowitz-TR2trip canceledOct 28 11:25
schestowitz-TR2yorkshireOct 28 11:25
matteobinI would like to visit York in the future, where there's Revolution Software office.Oct 28 11:26
matteobinAnd then I would love to visit Scotland.Oct 28 11:26
matteobinI've been to Ireland, I loved it. I'm not a big city guy. I prefer small rural towns and nature.Oct 28 11:27
matteobinIs Manchester very big?Oct 28 11:27
matteobinLet me known if you plan to visit Italy/Tuscany.Oct 28 11:28
schestowitz-TR2greater manchester is very bigOct 28 11:28
schestowitz-TR2we plan to do many trips this weekendOct 28 11:28
schestowitz-TR2it's warnOct 28 11:28
schestowitz-TR2for winter, super-warmOct 28 11:28
schestowitz-TR2rianne took dayys off work, tidies up house etc.Oct 28 11:29
schestowitz-TR2for the trip that's now canceledOct 28 11:29
schestowitz-TR2in nature, even walking is nice exerciseOct 28 11:29
schestowitz-TR2and lots of trails to check, we're going though a survey of some atmOct 28 11:29
matteobinNice! I love hiking.Oct 28 11:30
schestowitz-TR2but this is a rare chanceOct 28 11:30
schestowitz-TR2winter will get cold soonOct 28 11:30
schestowitz-TR2and some leaves are still on some treesOct 28 11:30
matteobinDoes Rianne work in IT too?Oct 28 11:30
schestowitz-TR2same job and company as meOct 28 11:31
matteobinHere there are not dead leaves yet!Oct 28 11:31
matteobinIt's like spring.Oct 28 11:31
schestowitz-TR2is is north os south?Oct 28 11:33
schestowitz-TR2*is itOct 28 11:34
matteobinCentre, I live in Tuscany, near Florence. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/41977Oct 28 11:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.openstreetmap.org | Relation: ‪Toscana‬ (‪41977‬) | OpenStreetMapOct 28 11:35
schestowitz-TR2niceOct 28 11:36
schestowitz-TR2i wish I could live somewhere like thisOct 28 11:36
schestowitz-TR2economically it is harder thereOct 28 11:36
schestowitz-TR2a close friend of mine was from there before he left manchesterOct 28 11:37
schestowitz-TR2gianlucaOct 28 11:37
matteobinWhere I live? Really? I wouldn't have guessed it. Maybe it's because I've always lived here.Oct 28 11:37
schestowitz-TR2his family had worked abroad in dubaiOct 28 11:38
schestowitz-TR2but like many students he came here for educationOct 28 11:38
schestowitz-TR2was around cambridge last I spoke to himOct 28 11:38
matteobinI like where I live. I really like Italy.Oct 28 11:38
schestowitz-TR2did his phd thereOct 28 11:38
matteobinWell it's not Dubai, but Tuscany is a great place to live.Oct 28 11:38
schestowitz-TR2many italians travel for the moneyOct 28 11:39
schestowitz-TR2us, uk, even gulf statesOct 28 11:39
schestowitz-TR2not sure they find happinessOct 28 11:39
schestowitz-TR2but some find more moneyOct 28 11:39
matteobinI think life is cheaper than in London.Oct 28 11:39
schestowitz-TR2not the sameOct 28 11:39
schestowitz-TR2yes, but many high-paying jobs are in the big citiesOct 28 11:40
schestowitz-TR2and i reckon milan is very expensive to live inOct 28 11:40
schestowitz-TR2but have not checkedOct 28 11:40
matteobinYeah, sure, in Italy you won't get rich working in IT.Oct 28 11:40
matteobinHowever I would not like to do those jobs that might make you rich.Oct 28 11:40
schestowitz-TR2many chase the high salaries and pay a lot of those in rent feesOct 28 11:40
matteobinMilan is a bit more like London.Oct 28 11:41
schestowitz-TR2my salary is very smallOct 28 11:41
schestowitz-TR2but the job is easyOct 28 11:41
matteobinHow much, if I may?Oct 28 11:41
schestowitz-TR226.5k/yearOct 28 11:41
techrights-sec[2]So I guess the shift might be due to hellenius having moved onOct 28 11:42
schestowitz-TR2techrights-sec[2]: Oct 28 11:43
schestowitz-TR2yes, but he must still be around somewhere. I cannot recall how to sell his nameOct 28 11:43
schestowitz-TR2just how it soundsOct 28 11:43
schestowitz-TR2some flemmishOct 28 11:43
matteobinIs that without tax? That's more than I get! :DOct 28 11:46
schestowitz-TR2before taxOct 28 11:47
schestowitz-TR2but tax is not high at those bandOct 28 11:47
schestowitz-TR2most of national insurance (health)Oct 28 11:47
schestowitz-TR2techrights-sec[2]: Oct 28 11:47
schestowitz-TR2can you confirm new "merged" file compared to previous merged file is just the same sans the automated?Oct 28 11:47
schestowitz-TR2(thanks in advance, don't wanna miss anything)Oct 28 11:47
matteobinI get about 1400 € without tax.Oct 28 11:47
techrights-sec[2]yesOct 28 11:47
techrights-sec[2]the new one has the automated links or at least shouldOct 28 11:47
techrights-sec[2]the old one was missing the linksOct 28 11:47
schestowitz-TR2matteobin: how is the job?Oct 28 11:48
schestowitz-TR2hard?Oct 28 11:48
schestowitz-TR2challenging?Oct 28 11:48
schestowitz-TR2fun? Oct 28 11:48
schestowitz-TR2some work from home?Oct 28 11:48
schestowitz-TR2nice colleagues?Oct 28 11:48
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matteobinThe job is easy. Some collegues are nice.Oct 28 11:51
matteobinI work from home 3/5 days per week.Oct 28 11:51
matteobinI get a lot of time to do my stuff.Oct 28 11:51
matteobinBut I would like to change it, because it's not ethical.Oct 28 11:51
schestowitz-TR2goodOct 28 11:51
matteobinIt's hard to get GNU jobs in Italy.Oct 28 11:51
schestowitz-TR2sounds simialr to meOct 28 11:51
matteobinI'm not interested in money very much.Oct 28 11:52
matteobinI would like to make 1500/1600 oer month, but that's about it.Oct 28 11:52
schestowitz-TR2which part of the job do you deem unethical?Oct 28 11:52
schestowitz-TR2I was planning to leave my jobs this yearOct 28 11:52
matteobinAll of it! :DOct 28 11:52
schestowitz-TR2and had big arguments with my bossesOct 28 11:52
schestowitz-TR2but they became quite apologeticOct 28 11:52
matteobinI am a full stack web developer.Oct 28 11:52
schestowitz-TR2so for now I'm still thereOct 28 11:52
matteobinWe make crap websites with WordPress and we develop a web management software.Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz-TR2techrights-sec[2]: Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz-TR2todo (notes): find out wth is going on with 1) layoffs at MSFT 2) losses (WHICH divisions? what they hide...)Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz-TR2until I know what's "open secret" a video or article would be of little value IMHOOct 28 11:53
schestowitz-TR2when I researched this a week ago I found out azure had layoffs againOct 28 11:53
schestowitz-TR2and some insider said they had FOUR waves of layoffs this yearOct 28 11:53
schestowitz-TR2but that is not verified (by me)Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz-TR2seems like 'hearsay'Oct 28 11:53
schestowitz-TR2matteobin: wordpress is not too badOct 28 11:53
matteobinWe use a lot of Microsoft stuff.Oct 28 11:54
schestowitz-TR2which part is not ethical?Oct 28 11:54
schestowitz-TR2ahOct 28 11:54
schestowitz-TR2microsoft stuffOct 28 11:54
schestowitz-TR2I refuse to do thatOct 28 11:54
schestowitz-TR2some charity in africa wanted me to volunteerOct 28 11:54
schestowitz-TR2and then I found out it was loads of microsoft crapOct 28 11:54
schestowitz-TR2and bailed outOct 28 11:54
matteobinWell it wouldn't be too bad if we weren't using visual composers full of shit JS.Oct 28 11:55
schestowitz-TR2that is what wordpress has becomeOct 28 11:55
schestowitz-TR2in recent vesrsions, starting ariund v4.xOct 28 11:55
schestowitz-TR2reactjs and crapOct 28 11:55
matteobinI have to use Windows because of our core business.Oct 28 11:56
schestowitz-TR2that sucksOct 28 11:56
matteobinMost of our software runs on Windows, crappy management software.Oct 28 11:56
matteobinSometimes I make customisations to those.Oct 28 11:57
matteobinIt's a compromise.Oct 28 11:57
schestowitz-TR2I'd like to have offered a referral for youOct 28 11:57
schestowitz-TR2but I don't know companies that hire atmOct 28 11:57
schestowitz-TR2I know many that shrinkOct 28 11:57
schestowitz-TR2let me put it like thisOct 28 11:57
schestowitz-TR22020: many jobs work from homeOct 28 11:57
schestowitz-TR22021: businesses reopening, temptation to leaveOct 28 11:58
matteobinAt least I dual boot Debian and they know I'm very versed in Free Software.Oct 28 11:58
schestowitz-TR22022: businesses collapsingOct 28 11:58
schestowitz-TR2so even all those "work from home" jobs are getting harder to find againOct 28 11:58
matteobinIt's no problem really. It's hard for all of us FOSS guys. I'll manage to find something else.Oct 28 11:58
matteobinThanks anyway. :)Oct 28 11:58
schestowitz-TR2set aside how they want to herd workers back into "offices" (cages of metal and glass)Oct 28 11:58
matteobinThere are good things about my job too.Oct 28 11:59
matteobinYou are right. The next years will surely be interesting.Oct 28 11:59
schestowitz-TR2yes, and inflation...Oct 28 12:00
schestowitz-TR2it's getting harder to find discounts, even though we're very good at itOct 28 12:00
techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 12:05
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matteobinLunch!Oct 28 12:21
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schestowitz-TR2very interetsed in news about twitterOct 28 12:54
schestowitz-TR2I know from the inside only as a userOct 28 12:54
schestowitz-TR2seeing it collapse is like watching the scene of an accidentOct 28 12:54
schestowitz-TR2can't look awayOct 28 12:54
schestowitz-TR2reminds me a lot of lee coming to "save" freenodeOct 28 12:54
schestowitz-TR2for "free speech"Oct 28 12:54
techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 12:55
schestowitz-TR2Twitter is going to die ... soon (already getting a LOT smaller) ☛ https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/27/why-is-elon-musk-taking-twitter-private/ | Source: ScheerpostOct 28 12:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Why is Elon Musk Taking Twitter Private? - scheerpost.comOct 28 12:55
techrights-sec[2]one can hope that musk accelerates that eventOct 28 12:57
schestowitz-TR2"hurry up, you SOB!"Oct 28 12:58
techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 13:26
schestowitz-TR2Desperation? ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/we-need-you-in-our-corner/ | Source: Counter PunchOct 28 13:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-We Need You in Our Corner - CounterPunch.orgOct 28 13:39
schestowitz-TR2I feel like they still do a decent jobOct 28 13:41
schestowitz-TR2even better than commondreamsOct 28 13:41
schestowitz-TR2which I checked in the is siteOct 28 13:41
schestowitz-TR2you asked about fsfOct 28 13:41
schestowitz-TR2I think better save the money for our own needsOct 28 13:41
schestowitz-TR2so that like counterpunch we can reach 28 yearsOct 28 13:41
schestowitz-TR22035Oct 28 13:41
techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 13:49
schestowitz-TR2to put it bluntlyOct 28 13:52
schestowitz-TR2fsf nmeeds to start some actual campaignsOct 28 13:52
schestowitz-TR2not use the money it collects to just pay the salary to the people who fail to start very important Oct 28 13:52
schestowitz-TR2campaignsOct 28 13:52
schestowitz-TR2I can think of a dozen diffeent issues on which an fsf campaign would helpOct 28 13:52
schestowitz-TR2even just by virtue of existing on the siteOct 28 13:52
schestowitz-TR2Ihave not seen a highpriorityu list of project on the fsf site for eyarsOct 28 13:52
schestowitz-TR2what they do all day long... I don't knowOct 28 13:52
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techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 14:25
techrights-sec[2]They can't ride on past glory very long if at allOct 28 14:25
techrights-sec[2]longerOct 28 14:25
techrights-sec[2]They've already given every appearance of coasting for a while now.Oct 28 14:25
schestowitz-TR2every campaign willOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2make you alliesOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2make you enemiesOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2that's just how it isOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2becoming indebted to people's will can paralyseOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2i remember bad vista or "7 sins"Oct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2and how a few people online said fsf had gone "negative"Oct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2since then there has been too soft an attitudeOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2also dbd (formerly by jgay) is muteOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2not sure what to say except, Oct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2do somethingOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2not moving anywhere makes one stagnantOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2they do need to piss off some peopleOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2I think it was a mattl idea (rms foe) to send hdd to microsoftOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2to ask for windows codeOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2it was a dumb stunt imhoOct 28 14:31
schestowitz-TR2what message might that send?Oct 28 14:32
schestowitz-TR2"fsf wants to set windows free?"Oct 28 14:32
schestowitz-TR2btw, geddit (the reddit of gemini) has put links to techrights under the news sectionOct 28 14:32
schestowitz-TR2pretty amazing given the contextOct 28 14:32
schestowitz-TR2we're like one of only 4, and the others are msm gatewaysOct 28 14:32
schestowitz-TR2geedit is a big dealOct 28 14:32
schestowitz-TR2i only noticed last nightOct 28 14:32
schestowitz> Hi Roy,Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> This morning, Garmin announced victory in a patent lawsuit brought by Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> Logantree LP in Kansas federal court. After three days of testimony, the Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> jury found that Garmin’s popular smartwatches did not use any of Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> Logantree’s allegedly patented technology.Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> A full press release including a comment from Garmin General Counsel Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> Andrew Etkind is attached.Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> Oct 28 14:40
schestowitz> Thank you,Oct 28 14:40
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techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 14:52
schestowitz-TR2Microsoft is a clown-first company. This week: the clown ain't performing. Just bear with us as we try hard to find MOAR things to RE-classify as "CLOWN"Oct 28 15:13
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techrights-sec[2]They'll have to continue to spin the losses in their clown division as somethingOct 28 16:11
techrights-sec[2]other than what they really are: losses.  Twenty years ago the world laughed atOct 28 16:11
techrights-sec[2]them for having advertising as their single largest line item.  They quickly   Oct 28 16:11
techrights-sec[2]rewrote the next report to hide that by distributing the advertising budgetOct 28 16:11
techrights-sec[2]throughout the other line items, so advertising in effect is still theirOct 28 16:11
techrights-sec[2]main business, after lobbying.Oct 28 16:11
schestowitz-TR2haha, they are NOT lossesOct 28 16:11
schestowitz-TR2THey are INVESTINGF!!!Oct 28 16:11
schestowitz-TR2be patientOct 28 16:11
schestowitz-TR2like all those SF 'startups'Oct 28 16:11
schestowitz-TR2they are stats... waiting to be "discovered"Oct 28 16:11
schestowitz-TR2*starsOct 28 16:11
schestowitz-TR2mitchell wrote that the most money gopes to advertising and shows recent numbersOct 28 16:11
schestowitz-TR2mitchelOct 28 16:12
techrights-sec[2]ackOct 28 16:32
schestowitz-TR2leaving home in an hour, priority is cleaning up rssOct 28 16:32
schestowitz-TR2going tOct 28 16:32
schestowitz-TR2o trafford centreOct 28 16:32
techrights-sec[2]have a good excursionOct 28 16:32
techrights-sec[2].Oct 28 16:32
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schestowitz-TR2of course fsf took advantage of something sort of big happening at twitterOct 28 16:46
schestowitz-TR2to tell people to get OFF twitterOct 28 16:46
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psydruidas a "reason" for asking for supporting thunderbird I've mentioned (to microsoft) they've broken support for itOct 28 18:08
psydruidwhat this article and video are about gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/index.gmiOct 28 18:08
psydruidit's complete shambles, because now I can't get e-mails out of that systemOct 28 18:09
psydruidit's all webmail nowOct 28 18:09
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schestowitz-TR2psydruid: you cannot even keep your data ^_^Oct 28 22:13
schestowitz-TR2you are on rentalOct 28 22:13
psydruidthey implemented this in julyOct 28 22:14
psydruidnot even asking questions or implementing an e-mail server of their ownOct 28 22:15
psydruidas if microsoft's take on e-mail is the last wordOct 28 22:15
schestowitz-TR2https://nitter.it/MSServices_info/status/1586096838708318209#mOct 28 23:10
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-MSServices Global 🌐 (@MSServices_info): "The villain has made a statement 😈 Understanding #ThierryBreton : Looking back epilogue #EuropeanUnion #ThierryBreton #EU #Twitter #Europe #USA #America http://techrights.org/2020/03/11/looking-back-at-breton-or-breton-series-epilogue/"|nitter.itOct 28 23:10
schestowitz-TR2https://nitter.it/MSServices_info/status/1586077162335240192#mOct 28 23:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-MSServices Global 🌐 (@MSServices_info): "Thierry Breton; Say no more! The truth behind a genuine villain. #ThierryBreton #EuropeanUnion #Europe #France #USA #Twitter #ELONMUSK http://techrights.org/2020/03/11/looking-back-at-breton-or-breton-series-epilogue/"|nitter.itOct 28 23:11
schestowitz-TR2https://nitter.it/HeyoMinion/status/1586054146230480898#mOct 28 23:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fink (@HeyoMinion): "techrights.org/2019/11/19/in…"|nitter.itOct 28 23:11
schestowitz-TR2https://nitter.it/anarchotaoist/status/1585936828242305025#mOct 28 23:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-🅐nⒶrcHo-t🅐oiSt (@anarchotaoist): "techrights.org/2022/10/26/wh…"|nitter.itOct 28 23:11
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