●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, January 29, 2022 ●● ● Jan 29 [01:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:36] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:37] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:37] *rianne has quit (Connection closed) [01:38] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [01:38] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [01:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:47] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Jan 29 [02:39] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:39] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:39] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 29 [03:28] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [03:49] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:49] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:51] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Jan 29 [06:27] schestowitz-TR2 it does not loook like the pool with curl in it ran the apache restart as intende [06:27] schestowitz-TR2 d [06:43] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:44] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:45] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:56] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:56] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 29 [07:08] schestowitz-TR2 last night at schestowitz.com I spent about half an houir dealing [07:08] schestowitz-TR2 with commemntnm spa [07:08] schestowitz-TR2 m in one of half a dozen wordpress install [07:08] schestowitz-TR2 2000,000 spam comments took up 1.3GB of DB space [07:08] schestowitz-TR2 cpanel is crap and it did not show te redeemed space [07:08] schestowitz-TR2 until like 5 hours later [07:08] schestowitz-TR2 so I waasted a lot of time shooting in the dark [07:08] schestowitz-TR2 not knowing it was just a weird setup thing [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 --- [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 later today we can finally do a proper backup of the raspi [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 it might also be worth discussing joindiaspora [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 I have been getting several mails relating to this [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 trust is a very iumportant factor [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 like securing people's personal data [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 also, given that maybe 700k out of 2.9k posts there are mine [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 In wonder if there is room for setting up some foundation [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 that can oversee both JD and Techrights [07:11] schestowitz-TR2 but there are more people interested in helping then just us ● Jan 29 [08:12] schestowitz-TR2 https://nitter.eu/MariusNestor/status/1487226439065915396#m [08:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | (@MariusNestor): "You may want to delete this one check my comment on the site" | nitter [08:15] schestowitz I've long hated, publicly condemned, even deleted Fossbytes. Thanks for reminding me that they have not improved at all. [08:15] Techrights-sec ack [08:15] Techrights-sec I'm not sure of the administrivia required for a LLC but that seems to be the [08:15] Techrights-sec way to go for JoinDiaspora [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 thanks, none of this is urgent just yet [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 I need to check with more people [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 have a look at the draft if you can... video processing now [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 I did lots of maintenance of sites last night [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 today the pi backup will be priority [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 techrights back on top of list at lupa stats [08:17] schestowitz-TR2 after that downtime knocked it down [08:19] Techrights-sec ack [08:19] Techrights-sec eventually one of the bigger newspapers will take top position as largest [08:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:20] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:20] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:40] schestowitz-TR2 if we get very lucky, maybe one day gemini trafficx will be as big as http [08:40] schestowitz-TR2 and also, making videos is a lot faster now [08:40] schestowitz-TR2 and many ppeople do watch these [08:40] schestowitz-TR2 so we can help cushion the transition [08:59] schestowitz
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If so, then the network will ensure the process is slow. [13:25] Techrights-sec Going straight to USB on the RPi is not so bad. [13:26] schestowitz https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=180383 and https://github.com/raspberrypi-ui/piclone/blob/master/src/piclone.c [13:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-forums.raspberrypi.com | command line version of piclone? - Raspberry Pi Forums [13:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | piclone/piclone.c at master raspberrypi-ui/piclone GitHub [13:26] schestowitz around line 500 [13:27] schestowitz I was trying to convince myself it was in fact progressing, in spite of progress bar being at same point for like 2 hours already [13:27] schestowitz we have many small files in gemini [13:27] schestowitz and many dirs, too [13:28] schestowitz /dev/sda2 29333500 5644140 22173944 21% /tmp/tmp.MHJl9UZBEp [13:28] schestowitz pi@raspberrypi:~/tc $ date [13:28] schestowitz Sat 29 Jan 13:27:43 GMT 2022 [13:28] schestowitz pi@raspberrypi:~/tc $ df | grep MHJ [13:28] schestowitz /dev/sda2 29333500 5652712 22165372 21% /tmp/tmp.MHJl9UZBEp [13:28] schestowitz ^^^ turtle pace, about 10 minute difference in time [13:34] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [13:34] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:34] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:55] schestowitz-TR2 to clarify, tghe plan here was, [13:55] schestowitz-TR2 get the OS in a state that is good [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 inc. all the software we need [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 a [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 a recent version of the OS [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 fully patched [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 then, put all the basic files on card [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 then, I can rsync to the laptop [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 that can bring the OS on USB back in synch if we restore from it [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 but the base system will be there already, just out of date [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 if we make further changes to the system, then it's good to put it in git or keep [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 track of where outside homedir the changes are [13:56] schestowitz-TR2 OTA [13:57] schestowitz $ df | grep MHJ [13:57] schestowitz /dev/sda2 29333500 5708984 22109100 21% /tmp/tmp.MHJl9UZBEp ● Jan 29 [14:34] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:34] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:36] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [14:37] schestowitz-TR2 restarting [14:43] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [14:43] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:45] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 29 [15:09] schestowitz-TR2 blocking login php file did not alleviate thew problems so I reverted that [15:09] schestowitz-TR2 permission change back [15:09] schestowitz-TR2 I don't know why the loop curl apache thing did not work last night [15:14] schestowitz /dev/sda2 29333500 8038404 19779680 29% /tmp/tmp.MHJl9UZBEp [15:14] schestowitz pi@raspberrypi:~/tc $ df | grep root [15:14] schestowitz /dev/root 30357404 11002836 18068352 38% / [15:44] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:45] schestowitz backup almost done (all partitions). will backup pi in future, but it seems to me, atm, this can be a template system, to be later rewritten using rsync (for most recent state), will probably be awake for the next 10 hours, so can detect site issues with apache, after that I will need to sleep. to test the USB (booting from it) downtime would be needed, so will leave that for another day... 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[16:29] schestowitz-TR2 it would be a lot harder if we chose to have kids; right now we lol about having to leave the kid outside "for quarantine" [16:31] schestowitz-TR2 my brother just got sick through his young son (3) [16:54] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:54] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:55] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Jan 29 [17:03] *rianne (~rianne@joseon-jhg.17c.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [17:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:06] schestowitz-TR2 copy to USB completed OK!! [17:22] Techrights-sec excellent [17:23] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:23] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:24] *rianne_ (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:25] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 another first draft in place [17:28] schestowitz-TR2 while it is transcoding the video [17:33] Techrights-sec are there any links about the flaws in the current web trust model? [17:34] schestowitz-TR2 if you find any, I will add them [17:34] Techrights-sec looking [17:35] schestowitz-TR2 maybe Bruce Schneier will recommend some Gulag search over DuckDuckMicrosoft with PRIVATE GitHub repo and audite by ClownStrike [17:41] Techrights-sec nothing specific, yet, but this gives an overview of how it is /supposed/ to [17:41] Techrights-sec work: https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2010/02/22/web-security-trust-models/ [17:41] Techrights-sec However, the problems are with how things are currently misimplemented in [17:41] Techrights-sec addition to some theoretical problems. [17:41] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-freedom-to-tinker.com | Web Security Trust Models [17:41] schestowitz-TR2 I saw some web pages about it, but have not taken notes/bookmarks [17:41] Techrights-sec There were some very good analyses out there but I cannot find them at the [17:41] Techrights-sec moment. [17:47] Techrights-sec blocked by javascript: [17:47] Techrights-sec https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6547130 [17:47] Techrights-sec part IV in particular [17:47] Techrights-sec https://www.keyfactor.com/blog/certificate-chain-of-trust/ [17:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ieeexplore.ieee.org | SoK: SSL and HTTPS: Revisiting Past Challenges and Evaluating Certificate Trust Model Enhancements | IEEE Conference Publication | IEEE Xplore [17:47] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.keyfactor.com | What is the Certificate Chain of Trust? Keyfactor [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 chains too.... hegemony ;-))chained [17:48] schestowitz-TR2 root = empire ;-) [17:49] Techrights-sec https://www.keyfactor.com/blog/certificate-chain-of-trust/ [17:49] Techrights-sec certs are a scam, but one with a lot of money behind it; [17:49] Techrights-sec yes, and there are a lot of root cerits, multiplying the problem [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 anyway, most of this is outside my confort zone [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 but my older machines spewed out lots of nasty crap [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 when LF crap just exploded [17:51] schestowitz-TR2 and no updates could bypass the "WEB OF PANIC" [17:54] Techrights-sec Worse, if it signed by the same organization as is deploying it. [17:54] schestowitz-TR2 self-signed... bu another name LOL [17:54] schestowitz-TR2 OMG! This old old cert has a date older than today [17:55] schestowitz-TR2 LET US SHOUT at the user!! [17:55] schestowitz-TR2 For each cert downstream [17:55] schestowitz-TR2 i.e. endlessly [17:55] schestowitz-TR2 in some things like TVs you could not bypass that at all [17:55] schestowitz-TR2 Because, you know, "user friendly" [17:55] schestowitz-TR2 can't allow the user to click on something [17:57] Techrights-sec Yes, all certs are ultimately self-signed, the difference is that some [17:57] Techrights-sec institutions have convinced others, specifically browsers. to [17:57] Techrights-sec 1) deploy the certificates, 2) pay for that privilege, in some cases very large [17:57] Techrights-sec annual fees ● Jan 29 [18:05] Techrights-sec Browsers (i.e. chromium and firefox) more or less block self-signed certificates [18:05] Techrights-sec these days [18:05] Techrights-sec wget and curl even object to Let's Encrypt/ [18:36] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:36] Techrights-sec $ debtree php8.1 2>/dev/null | grep -c systemd [18:36] Techrights-sec 12 [18:36] Techrights-sec ack [18:36] Techrights-sec so I'll turn off monitoring here in a while ● Jan 29 [19:18] schestowitz-TR2 https://nitter.eu/SiQuizas/status/1487458552860102656#m [19:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Disidir & Decidir (@SiQuizas): "Un futuro que debemos evitar: comprar computadoras con spyware y ejecutar ese spyware en casa #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW http://techrights.org/2022/01/29/a-future-we-must-resist/" | nitter [19:18] schestowitz-TR2 https://nitter.eu/acastef53/status/1487477651283525636#m [19:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | AleksandarStefanovi (@acastef53): "No software company has been quite as collaborative with the NSA as Microsoft has, e.g. in providing direct Skype access. 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