●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Monday, March 29, 2021 ●● ● Mar 29 [01:03] *schestowitz__ is now known as schestowitz ● Mar 29 [05:08] schestowitz https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1376311215543218176 [05:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AdrienneGT: Alexandre Oliva: That thousands ... will sign an open letter ... based on twisted pseudo-evidence ... the human be https://t.co/qKKosX4j8Q [05:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AdrienneGT: Alexandre Oliva: That thousands ... will sign an open letter ... based on twisted pseudo-evidence ... the human be https://t.co/qKKosX4j8Q [05:08] schestowitz " [05:08] schestowitz Alexandre Oliva: [05:08] schestowitz That thousands ... will sign an open letter ... based on twisted pseudo-evidence ... the human being they seek to burn at the stake - Richard #Stallman [05:08] schestowitz RT & #RiseUpForRMS !!! [05:08] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/oliva-on-justice-and-freedom/ [05:08] schestowitz #GNU #Linux [05:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Pursuing Justice and Freedom | Techrights [05:08] schestowitz " ● Mar 29 [06:28] *TechrightsBN has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [06:34] schestowitz network issues... hv [06:36] Techrights-sec can't reach TR,TM, or HV from here ... [06:36] Techrights-sec \ [06:48] *buzzert (~buzzert@buzzert.net) has joined #boycottnovell [06:53] *hook54321 is now known as hook5432 [06:53] *hook5432 is now known as hook54321 ● Mar 29 [07:16] *TechrightsBN (~b0t@techrights.org) has joined #boycottnovell [07:16] TechrightsBN Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75 ● Mar 29 [10:07] Techrights-sec they seen back online now [10:07] Techrights-sec ^seem [10:22] schestowitz [07:51] Hi. Seen the cancelling of rms supporters? :) [10:22] schestowitz [07:52] Links are in https://github.com/rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter.github.io/issues/3484 [10:22] schestowitz [07:52] https://twitter.com/jhulten/status/1376360925809106951?s=20 [10:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | How do we address possible harassment of our signatories? Issue #3484 rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter.github.io GitHub [10:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhulten: @QuinnyPig I also found a list of ~3600 people to not hire... https://t.co/1L7D9jQkS1 [10:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> rms-support-letter.github.io | An open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman | An open letter in support of RMS. [10:22] schestowitz [07:52] https://github.com/travisbrown/octocrabby [10:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - travisbrown/octocrabby: Tools for managing GitHub block lists [10:22] schestowitz [07:52] https://github.com/sticks-stuff/highlight-RMS-supporters [10:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-github.com | GitHub - sticks-stuff/highlight-RMS-supporters [10:22] schestowitz [08:52] https://gist.github.com/kyhwana/73161a50d1b5019b18e3965b55a1a192 [10:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gist.github.com | Block RMS support letter signers GitHub [10:23] schestowitz hilarious. Reinforces what I think of them... [10:26] schestowitz [10:26] schestowitz As suspected, one of the scripts was written by a signatory of the support letter. [10:27] schestowitz As suspected, one of the scripts was written by a signatory of the support letter. [10:27] schestowitz It removes the corresponding file. ● Mar 29 [11:17] schestowitz [10:27] The sticks-stuff one [11:17] schestowitz [10:29] And here a helpful troll posted links to the foot eating video and webpage downloading script description: https://twitter.com/11rcombs/status/1375156099473670154#m [11:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@11rcombs: the RMS support letter isn't signed by a single person whose name I recognize, but it should make an excellent reso https://t.co/tUViIigmgC [11:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@11rcombs: the RMS support letter isn't signed by a single person whose name I recognize, but it should make an excellent reso https://t.co/tUViIigmgC [11:31] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1617004228410#c5837002191472229440 [11:32] schestowitz " [11:32] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat [11:32] schestowitz Dear Kant, [11:32] schestowitz Rule 126 EPC does not contain any passage concerning the question of when an attorney can be assumed to have read the mail and no reference to national courts of contract law. [11:32] schestowitz According to Rule 126 if the attorney can prove that the mail arrived later than the ten days, then that will be the date of notification. [11:32] schestowitz So quite clearly, the answer to your question is: If the mail arrives later than the 27th, then the actual date of receipt will start the two-month period. But the two-month period of Rule 115 EPC quite clearly does not start on the 29th simply because the 27th is a Saturday. It is safe to assume that the Eboa has not made a mistake here. [11:32] schestowitz " [11:33] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617010016829#c751833913290804116 [11:33] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [11:33] schestowitz " [11:33] schestowitz The EPO is not a machine for cutting costs and increasing the bonuses of its managers. [11:33] schestowitz The notion of public service is completely absent from the measures decided or planned. It seems to me that the EPO is an organisation was set to work for the good of the public and its users. [11:33] schestowitz This fact alone should lead the profession to react.The epi has started to do so, but there is still a lot of work to be done. [11:33] schestowitz "Silence is consent" is another adage that is widely used by the governing bodies of the EPO and the BA. And if you are unfortunate enough not to agree, your contribution is simply swept under the carpet. [11:33] schestowitz The present situation reminds me of an old joke: [11:33] schestowitz Art 1-The boss is always right [11:33] schestowitz Art 2-If the boss would by chance not be right, then Art 1 automatically applies. [11:33] schestowitz But I am not laughing, I am sad. [11:33] schestowitz " [11:35] schestowitz " [11:35] schestowitz Without entering the discussion of the mandatory character of OP by ViCos, there is a further decision of a BA considering that OP by ViCos are fully in accordance with Art 116: T 2320/16. [11:35] schestowitz https://www.epo.org/law-practice/case-law-appeals/recent/t162320eu1.html [11:35] schestowitz The fact that the legislator allowed POs in the form of video conferences in 2000 for the examination procedure does not mean that they were allowed for oppositions and appeals, let alone that the parties would not have a say in the form OP are conducted. [11:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.epo.org | EPO - T 2320/16 (Oral proceedings by videoconference) of 4.2.2021 [11:35] schestowitz What is at issue is not the possibility of holding OPs in the form of ViCos during the pandemic, but their compulsory nature, irrespective of the will of the parties and without any time limit. Delivering justice on time is a very weak excuse which will only convince those not needing to be convinced. [11:35] schestowitz That the BA support this destructive will of the office is more than a serious problem, it is not acceptable! The BA support the undermining work started by the Office's and the BAs governing bodies. [11:35] schestowitz What is actually much more serious, and what lies behind the OPs as ViCos, is that the decision-making bodies can be dispersed all over the territory of the member states, and even beyond. [11:35] schestowitz When we see the 'consultation' on the 'New Normal', the desire to dematerialise the office is clear. There is also a clear cynicism in wanting to "consult" the users of the office to see if they approve of this new structure of the office, when users have never been consulted on the mandatory nature of OPs. [11:35] schestowitz The governing bodies did not invent the adage "divide and conquer", but they are using it to great effect. The very mixed responses of users to the OPs under ViCo are proof of this. If the office's staff are dispersed, the possibility of collective action becomes very difficult. Moreover, if staff are in their home country, there is no longer an expatriation or education allowance to pay. So everything is a benefit for the office. [11:35] schestowitz The notion of a seat in Munich and a department in The Hague becomes obsolete. The often invoked Art. 10(2,a) cannot be read without taking into account Art. 10(2,b). [11:35] schestowitz It is also worth recalling what the EBA stated in decision G 2/19: "Users of the European Patent Organisation's services can legitimately expect that the European Patent Office's departments will not perform acts at whatever other place they choose." [11:35] schestowitz In view of the "dynamic interpretation" in G 3/19, there is not much to expect from the EBA in G 1/21, independently from the fact that the Chair of the BA has put himself as chair of the EBA in G 1/21. This on its own is scandalous enough. [11:35] schestowitz That the Office is evolving is not in itself bad, but the proposed and imposed changes profoundly alter the structure of the EPC and the way the EPO works. If the legislator wants it after a serious and honest debate, i.e. after a diplomatic conference, there is nothing to prevent it. [11:35] schestowitz But neither the governing bodies of the EPO nor those of the BA have the legitimacy to do so. A massive outcry is needed to remind the governing bodies of the EPO and the BA of their limits. [11:35] schestowitz " [11:35] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617009900838#c6544356056643144591 [11:35] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [11:43] schestowitz http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-270321.html#tMar%2027%2002:37:21 [11:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, March 27, 2021 [11:43] schestowitz # +1 text FTW [11:48] schestowitz x https://openssf.org/# [11:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-openssf.org | Home - Open Source Security Foundation [11:48] schestowitz # a "security" site which does not work without javascript? ROTFLMAO ● Mar 29 [13:07] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617015902428#c8483295705690019933 [13:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [13:07] schestowitz "The referring decision is one of the finest pieces of legal interpretation of a term in the EPC that I have seen in recent times. Others, in particular T 2023/16, merely scratch the surface. The referral is not about vicos per se, it is only about vicos against the will of a party. I hope that the discussion and amicus curiae will focus on the issue at stake: Legality of forced vicos. One may be fine with vicos in general (I am), [13:07] schestowitz but one may still have a serious issue with legality of fored ones (I do!). I had multiple vicos in examination, opposition and appeal by now, and they were far from perfect but okay, given the pandemic circumstances. I am not against vicos per se. Let there be vicos even in normal times, but only for those who want them. I cannot stand the fact that the alleged (and doubtful) need for forced vicos during the pandemic is used as a [13:07] schestowitz cover-up to put them in place for ever and for all." [13:08] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617015716865#c989036383371718533 [13:08] schestowitz "The current constitution of the Enlarged Board for this hearing is so self-evidently inappropriately biased that it's lack of slyness is almost a laughing matter." [13:08] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [13:10] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617012790911#c4996220881779104736 [13:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [13:10] schestowitz " [13:10] schestowitz Human faces have evolved with hundreds of muscles ...11:13 [13:10] schestowitz Author: noreply@blogger.com (MaxDrei) [13:10] schestowitz Human faces have evolved with hundreds of muscles that generate micro expressions vital for human communication. Already, many adolescents starting university degree courses have lost the ability to "read" human faces and have lost the ability to "ask out" a fellow student face-to-face, being able to do it only online, with the help of an app. In a ViCo, there is simply no eye to eye contact (because the participants simply cannot [13:10] schestowitz look simultaneously into the face of their interlocutor and into the lens of their camera). [13:10] schestowitz Why do I mention all this? Because I am wondering how important, IRL, genuine face to face communication is, and empathy between judges and advocates, for the administration of justice. CIPA seems to regard empathy between judge and advocate as irrelevant and superfluous, whereas firms based in Munich see it as more important. Who's right? [13:10] schestowitz " ● Mar 29 [14:07] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1617019697385#c8907876099238940337 [14:07] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKat [14:07] schestowitz " [14:07] schestowitz To quote from document BOAC/16/20: [14:07] schestowitz "The President of the Boards of Appeal proposes that the Boards of Appeal Committee adopts the amendment to the Rules of Procedure of the Boards of Appeal set out in Part II of this document. The amendment involves inserting in the Rules of Procedure of the Boards of Appeal (RPBA 2020) new Article 15a, which clarifies that the Boards of Appeal may hold oral proceedings pursuant to Article 116 EPC by videoconference". [14:07] schestowitz BOAC/16/20 thus serves as concrete evidence that the President of the Boards of Appeal has proposed legislation which contains provisions permitting "without consent" VICOs. The referral in G1/21 is all about whether "without consent" VICOs are compatible with the EPC. In what universe can the very person who proposed subsidiary legislation sit as the Chair of the Enlarged Board tasked with deciding whether that legislation is [14:07] schestowitz compatible with the Convention? [14:07] schestowitz It could perhaps be said that the EBA needs time to consider the objections to partiality, and that they will do so in due course. However, much like the answer to the referral in G1/21, the EBA's ultimate decision seems to have been made already. [14:07] schestowitz If the EBA ultimately decided to exclude Mr Josefsson from the proceedings, it would need to address the fact that he has already participated in the proceedings, contrary to Art 24(1) EPC. This would then force the EBA to rescind the decisions taken by Mr Josefsson, including decisions on the members appointed the EBA, as well as on the timing and manner of oral proceedings. [14:07] schestowitz Given the information in the above quote from BOAC/16/20, it is inconceivable that Mr Josefsson would have been unaware that his participation in G 1/21 would be entirely inappropriate, if not unlawful. In view of this, as well has the fact that he has already participated in the proceedings, we must therefore conclude that Mr Josefsson has no intention of self-recusing from G1/21. [14:07] schestowitz Also, even before 16 March, epi warned that, to avoid the appearance of partiality, Mr Josefsson should not participate in the referral. Thus, given the extraordinary speed with which the EBA has acted on other matters connected with the referral, we can conclude that the EBA has no intention of reaching a speedy conclusion on the possibility of a FORCED exclusion of Mr Josefsson. [14:07] schestowitz Taking all of the above together, it is hard, if not impossible, to reach the conclusion that the EBA will simply brush off the well-founded objections of partiality and continue with the current composition of the EBA ... with entirely predictable consequences for the outcome of the referral. [14:07] schestowitz " [14:09] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617021009039#c3784724494655517277 [14:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [14:09] schestowitz " [14:09] schestowitz Implicit in the EPC and the structure of the EPOrg seems to be the notion that the organs of the EPOrg can be trusted to act fairly and impartially, and that everybody will perform their duties in that spirit. But what this sorry episode illustrates (along with the chequered history of the Office under President Bonaparte - I mean Battistelli) is that there is no adequate remedy available when the organs of the EPOrg breach that [14:09] schestowitz trust, and whether by will or neglect act contrary to the letter and spirit of the law. [14:09] schestowitz When the Boards themselves are complicit in actions which undermine the EPC, or are too captured or compromised to prevent such actions, what remedies are available? [14:09] schestowitz The Contracting States are the ultimate guarantors of the functioning of the EPOrg and the rule of law under the EPC. But they, too, as represented by the Administrative Council, seem either not to know or not to care (or perhaps even to encourage) this abuse. What then? [14:09] schestowitz Can any of the Contracting States ultimately be held liable? The host states, perhaps? Even there, we saw in the saga of the previous president's abuse of EPO employment rights that the highest court in the Netherlands was prepared to give an unbelievably wide construction to the range of actions covered by diplomatic immunity. Thus it seems that even national legal systems are of minimal help against an international organisation [14:09] schestowitz gone rogue. [14:09] schestowitz " [14:14] schestowitz I am not sure why this has happened, did not investigate, but front page of the gemini capsule now shows "March" twice in the front page for bulletins [14:49] schestowitz >> There's no hurry while the existing workflow still works OK. [14:49] schestowitz > Ok. I'll keep moving with it. I've updated the core script to use Tidy [14:49] schestowitz > via APIs to ensure that the pages fetched from the feed are converted to [14:49] schestowitz > proper XHTML. That way we can use an XML parser on them. The extra [14:49] schestowitz > step makes it a bit slower, but the result is more accurate and more [14:49] schestowitz > flexible. I've updated the Git repository with those changes and will [14:49] schestowitz > use them on today's set. So please pay close attention to the automated [14:49] schestowitz > links for a day or two so as to spot any mistakes or room for improvement. [14:49] schestowitz > [14:49] schestowitz >> I will back up the whole pi soon, just in case... more and more critical [14:49] schestowitz >> stuff on it, over time... [14:49] schestowitz > I keep the important scripts in Git, so backing that up from TR would be [14:49] schestowitz > important to do, too. [14:49] schestowitz > ● Mar 29 [16:07] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:08] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:3420:5145:9463:3d36) has joined #boycottnovell [16:12] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:15] Techrights-sec I will look at the Gemini capsuel generator [16:15] Techrights-sec It looks like a screw up in the date function. I thought [16:15] Techrights-sec it would have been smart enough to realize Feb has 28 days. [16:15] Techrights-sec I've tried several variations but not finding a way around it [16:15] Techrights-sec using the date function in Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) [16:15] Techrights-sec seems to be across Debian derivatives of all kinds. [16:15] schestowitz the babylonian human time system is so dumb and complex. leap years, seconds, dst... way to torture programmers [16:23] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:3420:5145:9463:3d36) has joined #boycottnovell [16:23] Techrights-sec Present in Old CentOS too [16:24] Techrights-sec A work-around would be to re-write that script using someting [16:24] Techrights-sec more capable. The Date::Calc module in perl for example. [16:24] Techrights-sec HOwever, this is a bug in coreutils [16:24] Techrights-sec Found a work-around for part of it. There might be a lump next month [16:24] Techrights-sec though. We'll see. [16:24] schestowitz Thanks, it's also good to know that those bugs persist and maybe someone fixed them already in newer version. kaniini wants to move off centos, as kaniini rebooted the box today and systemd gave angst. [16:28] Techrights-sec I would have thought that the date matters would have been hammered out [16:28] Techrights-sec of the coreutils long ago. [16:28] Techrights-sec Oh, well. Try reloading the Gemini page again. It is fixed now, for [16:28] Techrights-sec the time being. ● Mar 29 [17:10] Techrights-sec router maintenance ETA xxxxxxx min [17:10] Techrights-sec conection will probably break but the server will be ok [17:20] schestowitz https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1376564920268038156 [17:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Well, we knew going in what side Fox Tech...er, Techrights, would take on the brouhaha: A Factual Timeline of Attem https://t.co/BW76me2Df9 [17:20] schestowitz "Well, we knew going in what side Fox Tech...er, Techrights, would take on the brouhaha: A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom)" [17:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Well, we knew going in what side Fox Tech...er, Techrights, would take on the brouhaha: A Factual Timeline of Attem https://t.co/BW76me2Df9 [17:20] schestowitz https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/1376565780414926849 [17:20] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sjvn: @BrideOfLinux "Objective" ● Mar 29 [18:56] schestowitz " [18:56] schestowitz There is yet another TPO in the docket now; see https://register.epo.org/application?documentId=E51SEL7Z6408DSU&number=EP04758381&lng=en&npl=false [18:56] schestowitz In addition to the Chairman Mr Josefsson, also Ms Ritzka and Mr Eliasson are challenged for the appearance of bias. BOAC/16/20 held that Mr Joseffson was advised by the Presidium before making the proposal to BOAC; both Ms Ritzka and Mr Eliasson were member of the Presidium at the time. [18:56] schestowitz Three out of five internal member of the EBA appear to be biased. Anything but a good start. [18:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-register.epo.org | European Patent Register [18:56] schestowitz " [18:56] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617037364928#c6074543762591451509 [18:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [18:57] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617036847038#c7113527443060926425 [18:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [18:57] schestowitz " [18:57] schestowitz I'm beginning to think that Mr Josefsson's conscience is clear because, to him, it is self-evident that the sovereign States that set up the supra-national European Patent System did so fully aware that they were creating an extra-judicial system, outside the Rule of Law. We can see in recent years the Contracting States setting their faces against the idea of entrusting the EPO Boards of Appeal with anything as important as the [18:57] schestowitz adjudication of infringement cases. [18:57] schestowitz For pure validity cases, at stake is nothing as serious as criminal acts, loss of liberty, breach of any human rights, and so on. All that is at stake is whether the inventor's request for grant is or is not granted. So, nothing important enough for the guardians of the Rule of Law to get all steamed up about. Due process, I hear you cry. Forget it says Mr Josefsson. Nothing to get excited about, folks. Move along now, move along [18:57] schestowitz please. [18:57] schestowitz " ● Mar 29 [21:47] Techrights-sec all set [21:47] Techrights-sec I should probably reboot this one tomorrow. Any time of day best? ● Mar 29 [22:09] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/chairman-and-enlarged-board-criticised.html?showComment=1617050069853#c39213375349032608 [22:09] schestowitz " [22:09] schestowitz The problem with the TPO is that they are anonymous. It will thus be easy for the EBA to prima facie dismiss them. [22:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Chairman and Enlarged Board criticised for lack of impartiality in ViCo oral proceedings referral (G1/21) - The IPKat [22:09] schestowitz What is going on at the E>BA is bending of the law, but who cares as the EPO benefits from immunity? Since 2010 immunity is meaning impunity. [22:09] schestowitz " [22:10] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [22:11] *schestowitz (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9e47:addf:5b42:cd6d) has joined #boycottnovell [22:11] *schestowitz has quit (Changing host) [22:11] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [22:11] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [22:26] schestowitz any time would be ok for reboot assuming no major incident