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schestowitzhttps://debian.community/daniel-baumann-experiment-expulsion-blackmail-shaming-humiliation-servitude/Aug 29 03:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-debian.community | The Daniel Baumann experiment: blackmail, expulsion, humiliation, shaming and servitudeAug 29 03:32
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schestowitz> That is probably easily scriptable.  Can you provide two or three URLsAug 29 09:25
schestowitz> for recent videos you have processed in that way?  I can then take aAug 29 09:25
schestowitz> shot at scripting something with wget and ffmpeg in shell script.Aug 29 09:25
schestowitzSure, try doing this youtube video within some range of interest:Aug 29 09:25
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/08/29/what-comes-after-open-source/Aug 29 09:25
schestowitzThe hv has loads of disk space and we have no data b/w caps, so hosting videos locally is OK.Aug 29 09:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Bruce Perens: What Comes After Open Source | TechrightsAug 29 09:25
schestowitzhttps://danielmiessler.com/feed/ broken todayAug 29 09:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 500 @ https://danielmiessler.com/feed/ )Aug 29 09:36
schestowitzx https://www.techrepublic.com/article/want-an-it-job-look-outside-the-tech-industry/Aug 29 10:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techrepublic.com | Want an IT job? Look outside the tech industry - TechRepublicAug 29 10:17
schestowitz Aug 29 10:17
schestowitz# x https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-does-open-source-thrive-in-a-cloud-world-incredible-amounts-of-trust-says-a-grafana-vc/Aug 29 10:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techrepublic.com | How does open source thrive in a cloud world? "Incredible amounts of trust," says a Grafana VC - TechRepublicAug 29 10:17
schestowitz# asayAug 29 10:17
schestowitzhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/08/27/0058257\Aug 29 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | ErrorAug 29 10:22
schestowitz"Aug 29 10:22
schestowitzBecause of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shari_Steele [wikipedia.org] of the EFF.Aug 29 10:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Shari Steele - WikipediaAug 29 10:22
schestowitzShe was the one who started the falsified campaign against Applebaum. A typical NSA asset.Aug 29 10:22
schestowitz"Aug 29 10:22
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schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36684/Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz"Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzHope all is well folks! miss my fix when i am stuck in my house and all other sites are shite ;)Aug 29 15:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lxer.com | LXer: Site down? repeteadly over the past two weeks -- off and on....: LXer Meta ForumAug 29 15:33
schestowitzgus3Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzJul 18, 2020Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz5:14 PM EDT Cloudflare has been having DNS issues, and it's affecting lots of sites.Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz bverhegAug 29 15:33
schestowitzAug 14, 2020Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz12:05 PM EDT One month later and this site is still repeatedly down and up. I doubt that it is due to Cloudflare DNS issues, as I'm having this problem with this site only. What's more, there seems to be a pattern: down in the morning, and coming up in the late afternoon (CET).Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzjdixonAug 29 15:33
schestowitzAug 15, 2020Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz6:23 PM EDT Yeah, the site has been down quite a bit lately. No idea what might be going on though.Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzbobAug 29 15:33
schestowitzAug 22, 2020Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz10:10 AM EDT LXer has been the target of a denial of service exploit over the past two weeks.Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzThe positive outcome of this experience is that we now have strengthened defenses against the type of exploit that was employed.Aug 29 15:33
schestowitznmsetAug 29 15:33
schestowitzAug 22, 2020Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz10:36 AM EDT Why should LXer be the subject of a DOS attack ? It's quite inoffensive and neutral. This kind of attack is usually targeted against worldwide large sites of political and/or financial nature.Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzbobAug 29 15:33
schestowitzAug 22, 2020Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz1:49 PM EDT Yes it makes no rational sense.Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzSome people just enjoy hurting others it would seem. The world is filled with those who would build and those who would destroy.Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzgus3Aug 29 15:33
schestowitzAug 22, 2020Aug 29 15:33
schestowitz7:36 PM EDT Could there be another domain on the same host that might be the intended target?Aug 29 15:34
schestowitz(*Do not* answer that; it's only for bob to look into.)Aug 29 15:34
schestowitz"Aug 29 15:34
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TheJigisUp10/status/1299747021180547076Aug 29 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheJigisUp10: @minstrelgirl56 @namelyliberty @MaryUlinger @maunyk @cathyyoung421 @schestowitz @346Wjr @RobertKennedyJr… https://t.co/GpfgT3PBR8Aug 29 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheJigisUp10: @minstrelgirl56 @namelyliberty @MaryUlinger @maunyk @cathyyoung421 @schestowitz @346Wjr @RobertKennedyJr… https://t.co/GpfgT3PBR8Aug 29 17:37
schestowitz"Aug 29 17:37
schestowitzhttps://syracuse.com/politics/2019/04/report-gillibrands-father-worked-for-nxivm-tried-to-distance-himself-from-upstate-ny-cult.htmlAug 29 17:37
schestowitz ok... wow..Aug 29 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.syracuse.com | Report: Gillibrand’s father worked for NXIVM, tried to distance himself from Upstate NY ‘cult’ - syracuse.comAug 29 17:37
schestowitz"Aug 29 17:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/TheJigisUp10/status/1299734007731679236Aug 29 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheJigisUp10: @minstrelgirl56 @namelyliberty @MaryUlinger @maunyk @cathyyoung421 @schestowitz @346Wjr @RobertKennedyJr… https://t.co/Zp31bXEclqAug 29 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TheJigisUp10: @minstrelgirl56 @namelyliberty @MaryUlinger @maunyk @cathyyoung421 @schestowitz @346Wjr @RobertKennedyJr… https://t.co/Zp31bXEclqAug 29 17:37
schestowitz"Which part was happening in Albany??"Aug 29 17:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chineselawyerat/status/1299727568346787840Aug 29 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@chineselawyerat: The Great Firewall is THE great evil. https://t.co/QN0O6s4wPrAug 29 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Google in #China : When ‘Don’t Be Evil’ Met the Great Firewall https://t.co/Tu7luZTgyW #microsoft had already done… https://t.co/3hCwbcJbxrAug 29 17:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/minstrelgirl56/status/1299716627076972544Aug 29 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@minstrelgirl56: @TheJigisUp10 @namelyliberty @MaryUlinger @maunyk @cathyyoung421 @schestowitz @346Wjr @RobertKennedyJr… https://t.co/dlYSRqet4oAug 29 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@minstrelgirl56: @TheJigisUp10 @namelyliberty @MaryUlinger @maunyk @cathyyoung421 @schestowitz @346Wjr @RobertKennedyJr… https://t.co/dlYSRqet4oAug 29 17:38
schestowitz"and, this is why I keep saying Andrew Cuomo has to be involved. There HAS to be a trail...it was all happening in Albany. Kirsten Gillibrand's father was involved. I want Cuomo exposed and outed for the sociopathic liar he is. What governor shows off his pierced nipples on TV?"Aug 29 17:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sjvn/status/1299713451464568832Aug 29 17:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sjvn: @schestowitz I'm free to write whatever I want and I've not been fired, nor does it seem likely I will be.Aug 29 17:38
schestowitzI saw your articles being watered downAug 29 17:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jenkh/status/1299706018260226050Aug 29 17:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jenkh: @schestowitz Lol. That’s exactly what they should be saying to us outloud (not). Bunch of ba5tardsAug 29 17:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1299659858917154816Aug 29 17:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz well not entirely. Perens' suggestions do not qualify as free software. It is something else - but mi… https://t.co/tqJ1X4bmUuAug 29 17:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz well not entirely. Perens' suggestions do not qualify as free software. It is something else - but mi… https://t.co/tqJ1X4bmUuAug 29 17:39
schestowitz"Aug 29 17:39
schestowitzwell not entirely.Aug 29 17:39
schestowitzPerens' suggestions do not qualify as free software. It is something else - but might be better than free software.Aug 29 17:39
schestowitz"Aug 29 17:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Magnolia1234B/status/1299648170096500738Aug 29 17:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Magnolia1234B: @schestowitz Bypass Paywalls Clean (Desktop & Android) Works on more than 200 sites (like WSJ) Option to add your c… https://t.co/S8sT0ai1mMAug 29 17:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Magnolia1234B: @schestowitz Bypass Paywalls Clean (Desktop & Android) Works on more than 200 sites (like WSJ) Option to add your c… https://t.co/S8sT0ai1mMAug 29 17:39
schestowitz"Aug 29 17:39
schestowitzBypass Paywalls Clean (Desktop & Android)Aug 29 17:39
schestowitzWorks on more than 200 sites (like WSJ)Aug 29 17:39
schestowitzOption to add your custom sitesAug 29 17:39
schestowitzhttps://bitbucket.org/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-chrome-cleanAug 29 17:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bitbucket.org | BitbucketAug 29 17:39
schestowitz (Chrome)Aug 29 17:39
schestowitzhttps://bitbucket.org/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-clean (Firefox)Aug 29 17:39
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bitbucket.org | BitbucketAug 29 17:40
schestowitz"Aug 29 17:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/falsel_net/status/1299627802023600134Aug 29 17:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@falsel_net: @schestowitz @jvantill fyi @kathalijneAug 29 17:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jvantill/status/1299602941511335936Aug 29 17:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jvantill: @schestowitz @FuturICTAug 29 17:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sandyhewett71/status/1299602089996201984Aug 29 17:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@sandyhewett71: @schestowitz I miss the 80's when we could get online without a heap of monoplizing censoring snowflakes with thought crime BS.Aug 29 17:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/KaffeGabby/status/1299601664090005505Aug 29 17:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@KaffeGabby: @schestowitz Oh, I got exited, I though Beelzebub died. Too bad.Aug 29 17:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/WulfKhan/status/1299502310955954176Aug 29 17:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@WulfKhan: Geek Drama! https://t.co/e8W4oeh70GAug 29 17:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: How Was Linux Australia Coerced to Change Stance on Jacob @ioerror Appelbaum? https://t.co/VpGqNje58t #linuxaustralia #debian #gnu #linuxAug 29 17:41
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ycwwmHU2XBr0JjTbEAug 29 23:30
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schestowitz"Aug 29 23:30
schestowitzwhat do you mean?Aug 29 23:30
schestowitzI ask because I use EWS for work via Owl.Aug 29 23:30
schestowitz"Aug 29 23:30
schestowitzI am not following, eitherAug 29 23:30
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ycwhDOBU8AEReRhZIAug 29 23:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9ycwhDOBU8AEReRhZI )Aug 29 23:31
schestowitz"I heard he was hired by the property owners he was near."Aug 29 23:31
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ycwLBsQQWhVNs5Z3YAug 29 23:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:31
schestowitz"Aug 29 23:31
schestowitz the award was given in 2014, when Stallman was still there, and they called it "considerable efforts helping free software operating systems cope with the UEFI 'Secure Boot' debacle" https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-award-winners-announced what i see about the people currently in the FSF, it doesn't seem like significant corporate influence right now?Aug 29 23:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsf.org | Matthew Garrett, GNOME Foundation's Outreach Program for Women are Free Software Award winners — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareAug 29 23:31
schestowitzI am sympathetic to concerns about megacorporations overall.Aug 29 23:31
schestowitz"Aug 29 23:31
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ycamDANXgUYD7xw6iAug 29 23:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:32
schestowitz" I disagree with this person about Obama. Also they misquote him. They have slandered him. There is a whole myth structure supporting Obama slander. He did more good than any President for decades."Aug 29 23:32
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ycSLyhTuAw4BNQfs8Aug 29 23:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:32
schestowitz"Thats awsome thanks for this."Aug 29 23:32
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ycMZflcUnTvn7VnbkAug 29 23:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:32
schestowitz"Wow, Nice!"Aug 29 23:32
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ycB3SQzQqz5g6IZCyAug 29 23:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:33
schestowitz" for me GNUbian it would ne better :)"Aug 29 23:33
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9yc7O5C0dhoJrNs3CiAug 29 23:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:33
schestowitz"Money printer goes BRRRRR!"Aug 29 23:33
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ybq3Ei4MTXW4hLAaOAug 29 23:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:34
schestowitz"hmmm, ah this US-EU media-backed puppet guy representing next to nothing in Russia, which poisoning exactly?😀"Aug 29 23:34
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9yboOBeyhDpomxkzFgAug 29 23:34
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:34
schestowitz" Why do you need a private list?"Aug 29 23:34
schestowitzexactlyAug 29 23:34
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ybkTmbSN036ztWSiOAug 29 23:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://pleroma.site/notice/9ybkTmbSN036ztWSiO )Aug 29 23:35
schestowitz"Aug 29 23:35
schestowitz um… It says that people who release their software under the GPL are part of the community…Aug 29 23:35
schestowitzYou should double check what license the Linux kernel was released under flan_eyerollAug 29 23:35
schestowitz"Aug 29 23:35
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ybfuqS1fjM8ymCEZkAug 29 23:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:35
schestowitz"reminder that one of the people who was injured in the "mass shooting" was a felon illegally carrying a firearm which was drawn at the time."Aug 29 23:35
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ybbchWPjTGEFyLF0CAug 29 23:35
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:35
schestowitz"Is there a public list of financiers who give the money to debian? I can't find it in debian.org"Aug 29 23:35
schestowitzTry the SPI siteAug 29 23:36
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9ybHXDF4sycXoaL29oAug 29 23:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:37
schestowitz"what's a "friend""Aug 29 23:37
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9yatzPz4hv90XdlmC0Aug 29 23:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:37
schestowitz" any good and ethic alternative?"Aug 29 23:37
schestowitzsearxAug 29 23:38
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9yaUEW91UIHTBQxhwWAug 29 23:38
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | PleromaAug 29 23:38
schestowitz" I keep looking for a clear-eyed pragmatic argument for supporting Joe Biden. But as soon as the gaslighting start (e.g. "...he does seem like a decent man who actually cares about other people...") whatever suspension of disbelief I've managed vanishes."Aug 29 23:38
schestowitz> "Remember they try to portray Daniel as a criminal (e.g. over GDPR) when companies llike GAFAM violate GDPR at a MASSIVE scale while LAUGHING."Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> I know, but when youve heard several lifetimes worth of bullshit already, a lot of it sounds exactly the same. Judge Judy is famous for saying (unoriginally, but not like shes asking for credit) "Dont pee on my leg and tell me its raining"... and heres Bruce with your local forecast!Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Daniel is in the top ten easily, probably the top 5 for exposing things that show how badly things are going. a lot of what I was saying early on, I knew it was true, but I didnt have half as much idea how true until Daniel exposed what was going on at FSFE.Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> I used to wonder if all of that could even be true. The longer this has gone on and the more Ive looked into it (I spent as much time poring over the Pocock stuff from every angle as other big projects I worked on-- if not more time, trying to find a very substantial hole in it) and maybe spent up to 1/3 of the time trying to Devils Advocate the FSFE into being innocent.Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Plus where we had a pinhole into Debian corruption, this guy puts in a window seat. It is a damned shame that he shows zero interest in reform, but with his first-hand experience I would be cynical too (this is tongue in cheek, I'm sure most people think I'm cynical already. Even I think so at times.)Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Bottom line though, without his work we would do more guessing and have less to show for it. That could be putting it mildly.Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Derek Taylors "Unfettered Freedom" stuff is worth looking at. I think time and time again he is more neutral, more FOSS than FS, but at the very least I saw "Delete Github" in a big font on a blog he was showing on the video, and he uses Gitlab. He also uses a LOT of software from Github (I wont use qtile for example) but everybody does. And Daniel hosts there, ugh.Aug 29 23:48
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> The next Free Software movement is going to come out of people who formerly were suckered into all this Open Source crap. Why? Because that's practically everybody at this point. And I don't just mean that rhetorically-- the init system for Trisquel is developed on Microsoft servers. The init system for Hyperbola (only the GNU/Linux version) is too-- openrc. Nearly all the free JS frameworks (including the one LibreJS is built on)Aug 29 23:49
schestowitzare based on GitHub.Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> Basically everybody works for Microsoft now. If I told you that 4 years ago that's where we would be-- actually, you would be the only one that might actually believe it.Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> And yes, Daniel is deep in the crossfire of all that, because the poor bastard worked for Debian, and its utter shit. It is now.Aug 29 23:49
schestowitzRe: Michael W Lucas quoteAug 29 23:49
schestowitz> "Leadership sets the standards for behaviour-- not just one individual,Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> but a group of leaders."Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> Wow, Great!  An arrow to the heart of the matter!Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> _What do you hope to achieve by getting eaten_Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz> Nice!Aug 29 23:49
schestowitz>> 1996 June 02 (In a thread that starts with an essay titled "What comesAug 29 23:50
schestowitz>> after GNU?")Aug 29 23:50
schestowitz>>Aug 29 23:50
schestowitz>> "Gates doesn't interfere with us. I think that's just fine."Aug 29 23:50
schestowitz>>Aug 29 23:50
schestowitz>> This week, same person, 1/4 century later: "What comes after OpenAug 29 23:50
schestowitz>> Source?" ...Maybe don't be so sure about Gates this time!Aug 29 23:50
schestowitz> Where can I obtain this?Aug 29 23:50
schestowitzThe video?Aug 29 23:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18877194#4c460dc0cb34013849756ddd85514a37Aug 29 23:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Twenty years with Debian on the desktop – and no regrets http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141453 Aug 29 23:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tuxmachines.org | Twenty years with Debian on the desktop – and no regrets | Tux MachinesAug 29 23:51
schestowitz"Rather: Twenty years with Debian on the desktop - and no updates :D"Aug 29 23:51

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