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social_log> Phil Agre said that "Microsoft shouldn't be broken up. It should be shutDec 29 07:52
social_log> down.", not Bruce SchneierDec 29 07:52
social_log> Dec 29 07:52
social_log> https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram/archives/2000/0515.htmlDec 29 07:52
social_logAh, so my notes are wrong, misattributed.Dec 29 07:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.schneier.com | Crypto-Gram: May 15, 2000 - Schneier on SecurityDec 29 07:52
social_log> Any word on Devuan since the Debian vote?Dec 29 07:53
social_logNone afaik, but ./ has a discussion thread. You can check who participated.Dec 29 07:53
social_logAlso read https://bsd.slashdot.org/story/19/12/28/175201/fsf-approved-hyperbola-gnulinux-forking-openbsd-citing-user-freedom-concernsDec 29 07:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bsd.slashdot.org | FSF-Approved Hyperbola GNU/Linux Forking OpenBSD, Citing 'User Freedom' Concerns - SlashdotDec 29 07:53
social_log> =Dec 29 08:02
social_log> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/53968.htmlDec 29 08:02
social_log> # asayDec 29 08:02
social_logWrong label? He's not mentioned.Dec 29 08:02
social_logI'm guessing a mis-paste.Dec 29 08:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Wifi deauthentication attacks and home securityDec 29 08:02
social_logOtherwise maybe I miss an important point.Dec 29 08:02
social_logSome weeks ago you paste in the path of your file ;-) Projects/techrights etc. :-)Dec 29 08:02
social_logNo big deal of courts; such errors are very rare.Dec 29 08:02
social_logRe: reply to rms> people can mislead when they leave important things out of what they say-- they can answer a question directly, but leave out the most important part of the answer.Dec 29 08:05
social_log> Dec 29 08:05
social_log> questions can do that as well. more often, questions dont do it deliberately, but the effect is the same. "safe" questions with predictable, useless answers are the most common variety. its not just reporters that throw softballs, but people trying to get a handle on the status quo.Dec 29 08:05
social_log> theres nothing left to win, you know.Dec 29 08:06
social_log> Dec 29 08:06
social_log> at this point its all about cleaning up the wreckage and naming those responsible.Dec 29 08:06
social_log> Dec 29 08:06
social_log> its over. and the fsf still doesnt have a clue to save themselves.Dec 29 08:06
social_logI disagree with all 3  of the above paragraphs.Dec 29 08:06
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schestowitz>>> Also, there are a bunch of absolute values in the stylesheet whichDec 29 09:19
schestowitz>>> should be moved to relative measurements, so that the page resizesDec 29 09:19
schestowitz>>> properly.Dec 29 09:19
schestowitz>> Which browser are you testing with? I tried with chro* and FF, among others.Dec 29 09:19
schestowitz> Firefox and Chromium, mostly.Dec 29 09:19
schestowitz> Dec 29 09:19
schestowitz> $ apt-cache policy chromium firefox-esr | grep -B 1 'Installed:'Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> chromium:Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz>   Installed: 78.0.3904.108-1~deb10u1Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> --Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> firefox-esr:Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz>   Installed: 68.3.0esr-1~deb10u1Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz>> I applied all the above changes (commented one the old in case of need tDec 29 09:20
schestowitz>> o revert back.Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz>>Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz>> I had to set padding for a.time at a high value to keep it at one line,Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz>> at least in chro*.Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> I would have thought that is what the following would be for:Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> white-space: nowrap;Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> Messing with padding for that element will fail in all browser windowsDec 29 09:20
schestowitz> other that then one it happens to be tested in because white spaceDec 29 09:20
schestowitz> indicates word separations and gets wrapped according to the spaceDec 29 09:20
schestowitz> available.Dec 29 09:20
schestowitzIf you can come up with a css 'hack' for this, send it over. It's work in progress. I still have nano open in a terminal with that file. :-)Dec 29 09:20
schestowitzWe're not done... we can tweak lots more stuff.Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz>> We can make further changes; they're applicableDec 29 09:20
schestowitz>> retroactively to all older logs, going over a decade back.Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> Nice.Dec 29 09:20
schestowitzI will do the canta and next gates articles now.... while posting the trove of links you sent.Dec 29 09:20
schestowitz> a.time, a.time:visited {Dec 29 09:28
schestowitz>     white-space: nowrap;Dec 29 09:28
schestowitz>     font-variant: small-caps;Dec 29 09:28
schestowitz>     text-decoration: none;Dec 29 09:28
schestowitz>     color: #8888cc;Dec 29 09:28
schestowitz> }Amended, applied.Dec 29 09:28
schestowitzDid that have the intended effect?Dec 29 09:28
schestowitz> Yes, thanks.  Now I also notice another layout issue.  The rows with twoDec 29 09:42
schestowitz> columns have right alignment in the second column.Dec 29 09:42
schestowitz> Dec 29 09:42
schestowitz> Dec 29 09:42
schestowitz> td.part + td, td.join + td, td.servermsg + td,Dec 29 09:42
schestowitz> td.nickchange + td, td.other + td {Dec 29 09:42
schestowitz>     /* text-align: right; */Dec 29 09:42
schestowitz>     padding: 0.1em 0.2em;Dec 29 09:42
schestowitz> }Dec 29 09:42
schestowitzChanged applied now.Dec 29 09:42
schestowitzfsck has just finished.Dec 29 09:42
schestowitzI might send off this damage disk to a friend as an offsite backup of backup, just in case of fire etc.Dec 29 09:42
schestowitzI need to buy a new disk on Monday.Dec 29 09:42
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social_loghttps://twitter.com/AbstractN/status/1211318786848165889Dec 29 17:17
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AbstractN: @schestowitz Yeah, well, just like all other 'movements', they've been infiltrated.Dec 29 17:17
social_loghttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/1211297241895493632Dec 29 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tecknocrat: Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) on Twitter https://t.co/WH5NgQSoLSDec 29 17:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: The day Microsoft make something that doesn't suck is probably the day Microsoft start making vacuum cleaners. - Ernst Jan PluggeDec 29 17:18
social_loghttps://twitter.com/tecknocrat/status/1211297241895493632Dec 29 17:19
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social_loghttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1211294009597018113Dec 29 17:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Microsoft and vacuum cleaners. Thing is. They will most likely copy and patent the Dyson range of va… https://t.co/stL2Q47MHeDec 29 17:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Microsoft and vacuum cleaners. Thing is. They will most likely copy and patent the Dyson range of va… https://t.co/stL2Q47MHeDec 29 17:20
social_log"Dec 29 17:20
social_logMicrosoft and vacuum cleaners.  Thing is.  They will most likely copy and patent the Dyson range of vacuum cleaners and claim that they invented them.0 replies1 retweet0 likesDec 29 17:20
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social_loghttps://twitter.com/DevuanOrg/status/1211211876031442945Dec 29 17:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DevuanOrg: @schestowitz Devuan will survive, especially if - as it's already happening - some of the wisest and most talented… https://t.co/2yqhWDrgkQDec 29 17:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@DevuanOrg: @schestowitz Devuan will survive, especially if - as it's already happening - some of the wisest and most talented… https://t.co/2yqhWDrgkQDec 29 17:23
social_log"Devuan will survive, especially if - as it's already happening - some of the wisest and most talented Debian developers offer their help. The road ahead is hard, but we are lucky many people understand the importance of this effort."Dec 29 17:23
social_loghttps://twitter.com/e_ros_ion/status/1211190319439654912Dec 29 17:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@e_ros_ion: #Informationskrieg https://t.co/Yh3U6N9OW6Dec 29 17:27
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "In my role as Wikileaks editor, I've been involved in fighting off many legal attacks. To do that, and keep our so… https://t.co/fGYKVX8qUuDec 29 17:27
social_loghttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1211048463917604866Dec 29 17:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @schestowitz sorry for my recent faux pas, hope you are doing wellDec 29 17:31
social_loghttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1211048379733684224Dec 29 17:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @schestowitz #BillGates #JeffreyEpsteinDec 29 17:31
social_loghttps://twitter.com/IronDadof5/status/1211164082302308352Dec 29 17:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@IronDadof5: Bad photoshop. https://t.co/C7JSzyZooYDec 29 17:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @wikileaks @RobbyMook Not only HRC had this 'stain' on her. It's a 'class' thing... https://t.co/MUCOsQwgfhDec 29 17:32
social_loghttps://twitter.com/IronDadof5/status/1211163952396275713Dec 29 17:32
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@IronDadof5: @schestowitz @wikileaks @RobbyMook Bad photoshop. Lighting, Ratio are terrible my 9 Y/O can do better.Dec 29 17:32
social_loghttps://twitter.com/gerge42/status/1211090999994470402Dec 29 17:33
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gerge42: @alnbrns @MrsC_Assange @schestowitz U do know that JA is no longer in the embassy right? But obviously u do not.Dec 29 17:33
schestowitz@MrsC_Assange Christine has blocked me, anyone, please ask her to unblock temporarily to read this. I wont be on twitter for a while so she doesnt have to deal with me here. >endDec 29 17:34
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange My parents made themselves gatekeepers n my situation, ignored what I wanted n took choices away frm me, and I hated thm for it, they died a year ago knowing I hated thm. My situation could have ended much quicker if they hadnt done that. Is that what u want? >18Dec 29 17:34
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schestowitz Prime Suspect 1.0‏ @alnbrns  17h17 hours ago Dec 29 17:34
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange I will ONLY accept a reply that contains a comment directly from Julian. I wil not be on Twitter for a while, you know my rough plans, you hav my number. It is a simple question that should take less than 2min unless Julian wants 2 discuss it further of course. >17Dec 29 17:35
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schestowitz Prime Suspect 1.0‏ @alnbrns  17h17 hours ago Dec 29 17:35
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange Several times Julian asked Trax to leave the room so we could chat alone, I am sure he can come up with some questions that will confirm who I am, Trax was not present when I gave Julian the key phrase to identify me by. >16Dec 29 17:35
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange You of all people should understand that I will do ANYTHING to try to repair the damage to my family. I need Julian free to do that, and quickly. I will concentrate on my own campaign thank you. >15Dec 29 17:35
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange They have made memebers of my family and a lot of my old friends hate me, do you think I give a fuck about what you think about me? You clearly dont give a fuck about my situation, so why should I give a fuck about yours?. >14Dec 29 17:35
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange You know nothing about me. You have no idea of what they have done to me and my family. You have no right to judge me. >13Dec 29 17:35
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange Blunt truth is the nature of the beast that I am, deal with it, I have always been this way and Julian seemed to have no problems with me back in the 80s. >12Dec 29 17:35
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange The public dont have the right to know what this is about, but your son does though. So I suggest YOU tell him before I do. >11Dec 29 17:35
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange How many people in various governments have expressed the similar opinions of your son as you did of me just before you blocked me? >10Dec 29 17:36
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange Do you honestly think that I am the only one with a copy of our conversation? Being such nice people that they are, do you think they wont use it later to cause problems? >9Dec 29 17:36
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange You should be asking yourself, why dont they want Julian and I re-establishing contact like we arranged 30yrs ago? Who amongst your 'friends' also tries 2 convince you 2 not do as I ask? Why have they been trying 2 keep us apart so long? >8Dec 29 17:36
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange Several others of Julians 'legal team' also have not replied at all >7Dec 29 17:36
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange Julian Burnside stopped replying after he claimed 2 sets of documents I sent from 2 different towns, 3 weeks apart (Dec 17 & Jan 18) both went 'missing' in the mail >6Dec 29 17:36
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange Greg Barns stoped replyin wen I asked hm 2 confirm wth Julian who I am, he was also th legal advisor 2 th thn PM John Howard who would hav certainly had 2 approve them sendin undercover agents after me n 1997. Is it coincidence tht ws when his depression started? >5Dec 29 17:36
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange Goeffery Robertson did not reply >4Dec 29 17:37
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schestowitz @MrsC_Assange Jen Robinson has refused to reply to me for very nearly 7 years despite being charged nearly $1000 by lawyers to write to her on my behalf within that time. >3Dec 29 17:37
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schestowitz@MrsC_Assange Your son was cut off a couple of days after this was signed for by embassy staff. I had arranged with @schestowitz to visit after that letter arrived, ask him why he had to change his encryption keys after that (gag?). >2Dec 29 17:37
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@alnbrns: Thread @MrsC_Assange Your son was cut off a couple of days after this was signed for by embassy staff. I had arrang… https://t.co/K6gG3UYdwGDec 29 17:37
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@alnbrns: Thread @MrsC_Assange Your son was cut off a couple of days after this was signed for by embassy staff. I had arrang… https://t.co/K6gG3UYdwGDec 29 17:37
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@bigonbe: @schestowitz Absolutely not...Dec 29 17:37
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