●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, August 30, 2021 ●● ● Aug 30 [00:24] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:24] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:25] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:35] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:35] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:35] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [01:39] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@6r7vzqfh75a9q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [03:42] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:42] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:42] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:44] *blitzed has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:45] *rtn0 (~a@agkupivdf6i64.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:47] *blitzed (~blitzed@pvem6ie5sni7g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:56] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:56] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [03:56] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [04:12] rtn0 hi all [04:13] rtn0 anybody active rite nao ● Aug 30 [05:32] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 30 [06:26] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [06:32] *activelow (~activelow@9v6yfgzief5b2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [07:27] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:33] *rtn0 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:38] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [07:43] *techrights_guest|27 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:46] *techrights_guest|27 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [07:46] *activelow (~activelow@brnhhpquxvpi2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [11:37] *psydroid_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 30 [12:49] schestowitz https://twitter.com/at2rty/status/1432032778674180096 [12:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz perhaps democracy will arrive in America in the 22 century a lot worse than 1980 today is animal farm https://t.co/xhlKL2glj4 [12:49] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@at2rty: @schestowitz perhaps democracy will arrive in America in the 22 century a lot worse than 1980 today is animal farm https://t.co/xhlKL2glj4 [12:49] schestowitz " [12:49] schestowitz perhaps democracy will arrive in America in the 22 century a lot worse than 1980 today is animal farm smartphones addicts to shop and slave until they die Disappointed but relieved face [12:50] schestowitz Dumb Americans [12:50] schestowitz George Carlin on the elite - You Have Rulers | They Own You https://youtu.be/mrw3nSyEvQI via @YouTube [12:50] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | George Carlin on the elite - You Have Rulers | They Own You - YouTube [12:50] schestowitz " [12:55] *qa_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 30 [13:08] schestowitz I have made another little nudge in gemini's direction. Click on gemini version available on any article in TR. Eventually I want this proxy to be self-hosted, as you may have seen from IRC logs.... [13:14] Techrights-sec interesting. the label could be more clear that it is a proxy and I would [13:14] Techrights-sec suggest not keeping the result of the proxy inside a frame. [13:14] schestowitz-TR Ok hang on... also, not sure what "result of the proxy" means, as it cannot be embedded some other way, not easily anyway [13:20] Techrights-sec After clicking on the link the interaction with the proxy occurs within [13:20] Techrights-sec a frame. I'd recommend not using a frame at all and just have it work [13:20] Techrights-sec like going to a normal web site. Frames really mess with navigation, [13:20] Techrights-sec especially when (mis-)used that way. [13:20] Techrights-sec tldr; maybe make it just a normal link and do not worry about 'embedding' [13:21] schestowitz-TR Some proxy software that uses php or js can write directly to the page, so there is an interim step. I just want more people to move off the Web. [13:28] Techrights-sec ok. However, there are a lot of links, sidebars, frames cluttering the page. [13:28] Techrights-sec If the Gemini link it to be more prominent, some of the other stuff has [13:28] Techrights-sec to go. [13:28] Techrights-sec Myself, it took a few seconds to find the link you meant after I got to the [13:28] Techrights-sec page. That was even after already knowing that it was there. [13:28] Techrights-sec Periodic mentions of the Gemini mirror in the actual bodies of the posts [13:28] Techrights-sec might be much more effective. They'd certainly be more visible. [13:30] schestowitz-TR I am still waiting to the so-called (what's left of the) 'media' will raise awareness and get adoption of gemini software going, inc. in repos and 'stores' and over time (hopefully) we can change the 'outreach' strategy. At the moment it's thousands of coders working together to popularise the thing.. Today's logs will be full of stuff from leah roew, who moves the libreboot site to gemini and writes more code along the way. oliva will [13:30] schestowitz-TR speak to gnu devs, as he too likes it [13:35] Techrights-sec I'm hard pressed to recall if any of the 'media' have covered Gemini. [13:35] Techrights-sec One of the only ones left might be ITWire in AU. [13:35] schestowitz-TR the vast majority of that site is shite, spam, and job ads [13:37] Techrights-sec Sam is still ok there but it's been many months since I've looked at any [13:37] Techrights-sec other part of their site. I do notice that a search of their site [13:37] Techrights-sec for 'gemini' turns up nothing at all except some CapGemini spam. [13:39] schestowitz-TR even Sam does lots of 'obligatory' spam/fluff (or did... for about a month he wrote nothing when I last checked), which is why we removed him from rss bot. also, meduza has not worked in weeks (again) [13:39] Techrights-sec ok, I'll look at Meduza again. I'm not sure why they keep messing with [13:39] Techrights-sec their layouts. [13:40] schestowitz-TR it is usually not a layout thing [13:40] schestowitz-TR RSS just stops changing for weeks [13:40] schestowitz-TR maybe some bad encoding breaks a process at the end [13:41] Techrights-sec :( not much that can be done at this end, do you have a contact there whom [13:41] Techrights-sec you can ping? [13:41] schestowitz-TR do not botherl they never even reply [13:45] Techrights-sec Their RSS feeds has been broken since the 13th or 14th [13:45] schestowitz-TR Friday the 13th [13:52] schestowitz one day we can go on the gemini mailing lists to tell them our experience running the site with gemini ● Aug 30 [14:13] Techrights-sec Most (nearly all) is highly customized and exceptionally site-specific. [14:13] Techrights-sec Some of the ideas might transfer over to other WordPress sites, but [14:13] Techrights-sec not so much of the work flow and almost none of the code. [14:13] Techrights-sec But that aside, perhaps some would find it interesting to read about if short. [14:27] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [15:52] *rtn0 (~a@agkupivdf6i64.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [17:38] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:38] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:47] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:58] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:58] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [18:23] *rtn0 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:32] *rtn0 (~a@agkupivdf6i64.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [19:59] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [19:59] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [20:21] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:21] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:38] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:38] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [21:47] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@2qbuxqvcdkvai.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 30 [22:11] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:39] schestowitz-TR no irc post yesterday. It is too late to add it now, or will manual tweaking be needed for the gemini URLs? [22:42] *rtn0 (~a@agkupivdf6i64.irc) has left #boycottnovell ( ) [22:55] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:55] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 30 [23:10] *qa_ (~qa@fa9xe2vquf842.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:11] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:11] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:47] *psydroid_ has quit (connection closed)