●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 30, 2023 ●● ● Sep 30 [00:46] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:46] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:46] *libertybox__ (~schestowitz_log@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:46] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell [00:47] *MinceR gives voice to libertybox__ libertybox_ libertybox [00:47] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:47] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:47] *roy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:48] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@freenode-5h7u89.71tb.6ao7.hij1op.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:48] *roy_ (~quassel@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:48] *Techrights-sec2 (~quassel@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [00:48] *roy (~quassel@freenode-5h7u89.71tb.6ao7.hij1op.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:48] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [00:48] *roy (~quassel@freenode-5h7u89.71tb.6ao7.hij1op.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:48] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [00:48] *roy (~quassel@freenode-5h7u89.71tb.6ao7.hij1op.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:48] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [00:48] *MinceR gives voice to schestowitz-TR Techrights-sec2 roy_ [00:49] *roy (~quassel@freenode-5h7u89.71tb.6ao7.hij1op.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [00:49] *roy has quit (OperServ (Session limit exceeded)) [00:49] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:49] *208A0V0IE has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:49] *roy (~quassel@freenode-5h7u89.71tb.6ao7.hij1op.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Sep 30 [01:28] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 30 [02:30] *admfubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) ● Sep 30 [05:05] schestowitz >>> From 2023: [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/ibm_red_hat_layoffs/ [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> One employee was paid $250,000 to do nothing, they hoped he would [05:05] schestowitz >>> quit and find another job instead of demanding a severance payment. [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> https://fortune.com/2023/01/25/ibm-layoffs-3900-kyndryl-watson-health/ [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> Budget of $300 million for 3,900 redundancies [05:05] schestowitz >>> (average $76000 per person, although some of the people only had very [05:05] schestowitz >>> short employment or lower skilled jobs) [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> The article mentions $10.5 billion free cashflow [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mj1y6du [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> Mentions gag orders for receiving payments above the statutory expectation. [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> From 2009 redundancies: [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> https://www.computerworld.com/article/2523233/ibm-plans-lump-sum-severance-for-those-laid-off.html [05:05] schestowitz >>> [05:05] schestowitz >>> Lump sums: 2 week's pay for every 1 year of service [05:05] schestowitz >> [05:05] schestowitz >> In many companies they still use HR tricks to claim you're not even [05:05] schestowitz >> entitled to anything. IBM has a large army of lawyers, so if you [05:05] schestowitz >> disagree with them, prepare to pay lawyers for a long time and maybe [05:05] schestowitz >> you'll even become lucky. [05:05] schestowitz >> [05:05] schestowitz >> Workers' protections have not been good in recent years, maybe [05:05] schestowitz >> decades. NDAs are used to deny people access to precedents. [05:05] schestowitz > [05:05] schestowitz > [05:05] schestowitz > Yes, but people sometimes leak them and a small number of cases did go [05:05] schestowitz > to court. 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