●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 31, 2022 ●● ● Jul 31 [00:35] schestowitz-TR Gulag search started indexing the new domain [00:45] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 31 [01:17] *schestowitz[TR] (~schestowitz[TR]@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 31 [02:21] schestowitz-TR I'm redoing all my monitoring, starting with "do I still need this?" [02:21] schestowitz-TR gm [02:26] Techrights-sec2 ok the script now seems to work with PNG, GIF, and JPEG. There were [02:26] Techrights-sec2 not only dependencies but (to me) stealthy build dependencies. The latter [02:26] Techrights-sec2 have been removed again. [02:26] Techrights-sec2 though the incron part is still needing work [02:26] Techrights-sec2 gm [02:26] Techrights-sec2 I'm not sure how they can be goaded into getting back on track without pissing [02:26] Techrights-sec2 them off. It's not really clear how they can rationalize the direction they've [02:26] Techrights-sec2 chosen to take. [02:28] schestowitz-TR gm [02:28] schestowitz-TR Im doing a draft now about why we move off bloated web [02:28] schestowitz-TR I feel as if, on net/web issue, we do have a bit of away [02:28] schestowitz-TR not just freesw and swpats [02:28] schestowitz-TR while eff does none of the work it used to do in that area [02:28] schestowitz-TR an hour ago I went to doctorow's blog [02:28] schestowitz-TR it's... how should I put it politely? [02:28] schestowitz-TR does not appeal to me [02:28] schestowitz-TR he also has not ritten much lately in eff.org [02:28] schestowitz-TR maybe they use him like a mascot [02:28] schestowitz-TR a la LF+Torvalds [02:28] Techrights-sec2 [02:28] Techrights-sec2 could be [02:28] Techrights-sec2 using him for plausible deniablity in regards to accusations of having given [02:28] Techrights-sec2 up on or even working against their original charter? [02:28] Techrights-sec2 The upload directory still has no provision for SVG [02:39] schestowitz-TR i added an scg file (freebsd fdn) an hour ago [02:39] schestowitz-TR *svg file [02:39] schestowitz-TR to Features [02:39] schestowitz-TR got 7 mins to finish the post before bulletin kicks off [02:39] schestowitz-TR it's in drafts atm [02:39] schestowitz-TR wow, many typos, i found about 12 [02:39] schestowitz-TR ok, I corrected and abbr'ed as per your spotting, too [02:39] schestowitz-TR we need to convince people that putting ALL eggs in the WWW basket isn't the best approach [02:39] schestowitz-TR and more protocols should be supported [02:40] Techrights-sec2 checking [02:40] Techrights-sec2 again, acronymns need to be expanded on first occurrence in the post [02:40] Techrights-sec2 CMS, EPO, etc [02:40] Techrights-sec2 (there are several EPO iirc) [02:40] Techrights-sec2 s/the technical debt/technical debt/ [02:40] Techrights-sec2 or [02:40] Techrights-sec2 s/the technical debt/our technical debt/ [02:40] Techrights-sec2 I've got an idea for a possible method to deal with SVG. [02:40] Techrights-sec2 However, experiments will have to wait a bit. [02:40] Techrights-sec2 Back in a few hours [02:56] schestowitz-TR NHS Data: The UKs COVID-19 Vaccination Levels Have Reached Lowest Levels Since It Began (But COVID-Linked Casualties at Highest Level in More Than 3 Months) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/31/covid-19-uk-jabs/ [02:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive NHS Data: The UKs COVID-19 Vaccination Levels Have Reached Lowest Levels Since It Began (But COVID-Linked Casualties at Highest Level in More Than 3 Months) ● Jul 31 [03:08] schestowitz-TR spoke to my dad in length yesterdya, he came to accept I'll likely leave my job this year [03:08] schestowitz-TR we spoke a lot about the fakeness of "the market" among other things [03:08] schestowitz-TR he's even more cynical than I am ● Jul 31 [05:05] schestowitz-TR # tmux a -t logs [05:09] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:13] schestowitz git commit htdocs/navigation.html [05:13] schestowitz [master 3b5fb43] added more clarify [05:13] schestowitz 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) [05:13] schestowitz roy@vonick:~/Git-TM/tuxmachines.org/tuxmachines.org$ git push [05:13] schestowitz git@news.tuxmachines.org: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). [05:13] schestowitz fatal: Could not read from remote repository. [05:13] schestowitz Please make sure you have the correct access rights [05:13] schestowitz and the repository exists. [05:21] schestowitz-TR *WARNING* it looks like some upstream change was registered, based on my branch, but [05:21] schestowitz-TR the permission issue MAY cause issues (better to handle with care) [05:22] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 31 [06:49] Techrights-sec2 checking [06:51] schestowitz-TR I've begun installing agate [06:51] schestowitz-TR oddly running the agate binaries in alpine does not work with the x86_64 bins [06:51] schestowitz-TR also, I loooked at or stufied about a dozen other servers, some have many deps [06:51] schestowitz-TR and do not have binaries at all, which means adding loads of things just to compile them [06:51] schestowitz-TR there is a new account, "gemini", with a script in ~ [06:51] schestowitz-TR the bin directory contains 5 differenct binaries (versions) of agate [06:51] schestowitz-TR the latest has the most recent date in the file timestamp [06:59] schestowitz-TR biab ● Jul 31 [07:00] Techrights-sec2 ack [07:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:23] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:24] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 31 [08:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [08:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 31 [09:28] Techrights-sec2 checking [09:28] Techrights-sec2 try Git again [09:28] schestowitz-TR back [09:30] schestowitz git pull [09:30] schestowitz git@news.tuxmachines.org: Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). [09:30] schestowitz fatal: Could not read from remote repository. [09:30] schestowitz Please make sure you have the correct access rights [09:30] schestowitz and the repository exists. [09:30] schestowitz-TR should I push or pull? [09:30] Techrights-sec2 try pulling first [09:30] Techrights-sec2 or just plain ssh git@news... [09:30] Techrights-sec2 ok which key are you using? [09:36] schestowitz-TR git-tr key? [09:36] schestowitz-TR I can use the agent to select one [09:37] Techrights-sec2 it should be 2048 SHA256:XZo185K3yXSBgUJG0CYQj6pqyUnM62dgDc2tUDNPjes roy's git access (RSA) [09:37] Techrights-sec2 If you are using an agent for the keys then you might need to specify [09:37] Techrights-sec2 IdentitiesOnly as well as use IdentityFile to point to the specific key [09:37] Techrights-sec2 checking logs ... [09:37] Techrights-sec2 git pull origin master ? [09:37] Techrights-sec2 from the logs it looks like you are connecting [09:37] Techrights-sec2 can you get the Git Shell ? [09:37] Techrights-sec2 ssh git@news.tuxmachines.org [09:37] Techrights-sec2 That should show Git but as an interactive shell [09:40] schestowitz-TR solved [09:40] schestowitz-TR you nailed it when you suggested it uses the wrong key [09:40] schestowitz-TR after the reboot [09:40] schestowitz-TR I can get interactive shell [09:40] schestowitz-TR I could push OK [09:40] schestowitz-TR and pull [09:40] schestowitz-TR after ssh-agent bash [09:40] schestowitz-TR ssh-add ... the git key [09:40] schestowitz-TR I have like a dozen keys left over from clients at work [09:40] schestowitz-TR can you see the change I commited? it's small [09:40] Techrights-sec2 I can push an pull from here and am using the same login so I'm not sure what to [09:40] Techrights-sec2 guess [09:40] Techrights-sec2 yes thats a way to put a single key into the agent, another is to set up [09:40] Techrights-sec2 some configurations in ~/.ssh/config for that host including maybe a shortcut [09:40] Techrights-sec2 Yes, then IdentitiesOnly is essential. [09:40] Techrights-sec2 checking.. [09:43] schestowitz 'I care! "You know what annoys me most about the Linux comuniuty?" Microsoft writers like Brian Fagioli, writing about Linux with clickbait articles (because no one reads BetaNews), to actually promote Windows!" [09:43] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167827#comment-34459 [09:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 40 Distro Released with Linux Kernel 5.18, Improved 3D Support, and More | Tux Machines [09:44] Techrights-sec2 yes but there looks like there is a misspelling [09:44] Techrights-sec2 ack [09:46] schestowitz-TR nano has no spellchecked ^_^ [09:46] schestowitz-TR that's wwhy it's good it's done via scm [09:46] schestowitz-TR *spellchecker [09:46] schestowitz-TR btw, agate is a mystey to me, I assume the binary isn't working with alpine, I tried all sorts of things. [09:46] schestowitz-TR otherwwise it's small step away, I alreadyhave th domain configured [09:52] Techrights-sec2 ack [09:52] Techrights-sec2 checking [09:52] Techrights-sec2 agate is not available for Alpine afaik [09:55] schestowitz-TR I checked vger and many others [09:55] schestowitz-TR now literally downloading them and trying [09:55] schestowitz-TR *not [09:55] schestowitz-TR (sorry, rianne was talking to me) [09:55] schestowitz-TR but studied almost the 30 servers that exist [09:55] schestowitz-TR unless the distros have them (afaik, vger is in openbsd) [09:55] schestowitz-TR you must compile and even their their quality is an unknown) [09:55] schestowitz-TR because I wanted to set up the repo as public over gemini:// -- lots of code we can reuse from TR [09:55] Techrights-sec2 % apk search agate | wc -l [09:55] Techrights-sec2 [09:55] Techrights-sec2 vger requires a bit of special knowledge about certificates [09:59] Techrights-sec2 the quality of vger is probably reasonable but it's not as simple to run [09:59] Techrights-sec2 as agate ● Jul 31 [10:00] schestowitz-TR to compile agate you enter a world of rust, and having tried to compile their stuff before, I don't want to try again because it's a lot [10:00] schestowitz-TR of messing about with massive packages. hundreds of megabytes [10:01] Techrights-sec2 too much of a mess to do on what may become a production machine [10:01] Techrights-sec2 can you remove the unneede packages ? [10:03] schestowitz-TR no, no... not this machine [10:03] schestowitz-TR that was over a year ago on some disposable arm machine [10:03] schestowitz-TR I think I tried to compile some gemini clients [10:03] schestowitz-TR this was the only way [10:03] Techrights-sec2 ok [10:06] schestowitz-TR "Election deniers" is a new term for people who don't like PROPRIETARY voting machines with Windows back doors, according to Microsoft- and Bill-Gates funded NPR https://text.npr.org/1113707783 | Source: NPR [10:06] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Election deniers are running to control voting. Here's how they've fared so far [10:07] schestowitz-TR we need to be careful of how idiots can exdploited to make these straw man arguments [10:07] Techrights-sec2 the "election deniers" has been a very successful strawman attack [10:07] Techrights-sec2 yep [10:07] Techrights-sec2 and its a smear through association [10:12] Techrights-sec2 it certainly deflects against the long overdue discussion about M$ and Windows [10:14] schestowitz-TR also diebold and .... I forgot the name of the new company... [10:14] schestowitz-TR dominion? [10:14] schestowitz-TR they are file frivolous lawsuits to scare anyone who dares question their "products" [10:20] Techrights-sec2 David Stutz tried to initiate that conversation long ago, TR has links [10:20] Techrights-sec2 to his work [10:20] Techrights-sec2 diebold and the other change names and ownership to hide [10:20] Techrights-sec2 they want people to think of them as definitive of computing rather than [10:20] Techrights-sec2 fourth rate wannabees; the politicians help them promote that in exchange [10:20] Techrights-sec2 for bugdoors and backdoors [10:20] Techrights-sec2 and campaign donations [10:20] Techrights-sec2 There was also the government official (whose name escapes me) who warned of [10:20] Techrights-sec2 the threat to national security caused by both M$ shoddy products and the [10:20] Techrights-sec2 monoculture built up around them. [10:21] schestowitz-TR straussman? [10:23] Techrights-sec2 Yes, that's him. Between the two, they bring up very important points but they [10:23] Techrights-sec2 did it at the end of the era before the effects of M$ (and Bill) having entered [10:23] Techrights-sec2 polticis were felt. Bill stepped down from M$ when it became clear that the [10:23] Techrights-sec2 company ran at a loss. After that, it seems they have lived on due to a [10:23] Techrights-sec2 combination of government bailouts and Enron-style accounting [10:28] schestowitz-TR reminds me to hurry up with rss feeds today and publish Part 4 [10:28] schestowitz-TR anyway, from experience, muich of what you are told is false of half-truth [10:28] schestowitz-TR esp. when messaging is a near-monopolyt [10:28] schestowitz-TR re profits, security etc. ... even hits.. se clickfraud spamnil, twitter, FB... [10:28] schestowitz-TR they try to hide the fact of their demise and resort to desperate measured [10:28] schestowitz-TR *measures [10:28] schestowitz-TR "ty to look big!!@" [10:28] schestowitz-TR *try [10:31] Techrights-sec2 M$ has been rewriting history, we are at the point that the world is being told [10:31] Techrights-sec2 half-truths about ICT and the history of the Internet. Soon it will be 25% [10:31] Techrights-sec2 and a while after that 12.5% and so on. I'm not sure what the half-life is [10:31] Techrights-sec2 but it works on a scale of a decade or so. Kids are fed complete fiction about [10:31] Techrights-sec2 ICT these days, and especially about M$ and Bill. Recall the Dilbert strips [10:31] Techrights-sec2 linked to recently and how public perception has been warped. [10:31] schestowitz-TR i think it's c cross-disciplinary issue [10:31] schestowitz-TR and not a new issue either [10:31] schestowitz-TR in politics, in particcular.. [10:31] schestowitz-TR microsoft is politics [10:31] schestowitz-TR a failing law student [10:31] schestowitz-TR who broke the law [10:31] schestowitz-TR and "had a nose for money" [10:31] schestowitz-TR (quote) [10:32] Techrights-sec2 Yep M$ has been politics for about 20 years [10:32] Techrights-sec2 if one does not accept that it has subsequently moved from politics to being [10:32] Techrights-sec2 more of a cult based on politics and power. [10:35] schestowitz-TR some people are better to countering it [10:35] schestowitz-TR I worry abotu the approach taken by Daniel P in recent 1-2 years [10:35] schestowitz-TR but then again the tone and style waere never perfecy, depending on what domaini [10:35] schestowitz-TR it was posted in [10:35] schestowitz-TR debian.community was always the worst [10:35] schestowitz-TR now he links to a domain that does not work, suicide.dev [10:35] schestowitz-TR suicide.fyi works, but the articles are not there [10:35] schestowitz-TR so he makes technical errors [10:35] schestowitz-TR the nasty comments in law paint him as "qanon" and mentally ill [10:35] schestowitz-TR it has gotten so bad that they paint a leftist who fought for aboroginal people [10:35] schestowitz-TR by technical means as some sort of republican nut [10:35] schestowitz-TR like spamnil trying to repeatedly call me trump [10:35] schestowitz-TR like that made any sense at all... [10:37] Techrights-sec2 yes he has been the target of brigading, and still is [10:37] Techrights-sec2 since he is (mostly) on the right track they will do anything they can [10:37] Techrights-sec2 to lie about him and attack him personally in order to distract from the topics [10:37] Techrights-sec2 he brings up and the events he exposes. [10:39] schestowitz-TR "election denialism"? This is a smear that's now being used to compare critics of PROPRIETARY voting machines with Windows BACK DOORS... to Nazis https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-groups-are-organizing-election-denialism-into-a-coordinated-force/ | Source: TruthOut [10:39] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Right-Wing Groups Are Turning Election Denialism Into an Organized Force [10:40] Techrights-sec2 if lying is the only tool they have, or the most effective one, that's the one [10:40] Techrights-sec2 they'll use since this, for them, is an acceptable means to their end [10:42] schestowitz-TR a pattern I noticed is, they intentionally libel the person [10:42] schestowitz-TR but since the person is outspoken and opinionated, then they claim to be the victims [10:42] schestowitz-TR of defamation themselves [10:42] schestowitz-TR to leverage a sense of partiry [10:42] schestowitz-TR so nobody is suing, but bridges have greater capacity to spread lies... far [10:42] schestowitz-TR more online accounts [10:42] schestowitz-TR and isolation tactics are used... tying to weed out "sympathisers" by threats [10:42] schestowitz-TR or further bridading [10:42] schestowitz-TR see rms and oliva for example [10:43] schestowitz-TR sometimes lies and jokes are used as means of "revenge" against prior lies against onself [10:43] schestowitz-TR but detached from any context, people cannot see this [10:43] schestowitz-TR in social control media, this is further megnified [10:43] schestowitz-TR people who provoke cops and onyl; start filming when the cop/s react [10:45] Techrights-sec2 social control media decreases the public's already short attention span, now [10:45] Techrights-sec2 even soundbites are too long to follow [10:45] schestowitz-TR [10:12] On the Web, owing to INTENTIONALLY addictive sites and behaviour, if you begin to suspect your "consumption" of info is not "rational", it probably is not. Time to reassess and change. [10:51] schestowitz-TR let's leave gemini aside for now [10:51] schestowitz-TR it has a 1-year cert and placeholder for now, that's better than before at least [10:51] schestowitz-TR we don't even produce any gmi files, but since I had git woes I thought I'd have a stab of pulling [10:51] Techrights-sec2 ack [10:51] Techrights-sec2 ok [10:51] schestowitz-TR into gemini, then do the same as in TR [10:52] schestowitz-TR while doing this britney put agate on her laptop [10:52] schestowitz-TR the page we wrote with instructions is still very visible [10:52] schestowitz-TR and some people who used it contacted me for pointers [10:52] schestowitz-TR ariadne wants to explore gemnini, maybe will build something for alpine as an inside further down the line (upstream) [10:53] Techrights-sec2 ack [10:55] schestowitz-TR [10:54] iophk: thus the CHIPS Act can be seen as nothing more than a bailout https://www.pcworld.com/article/823871/intel-confirms-it-will-raise-prices-and-has-killed-optane.html [10:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Intel confirms it will raise CPU prices after losing $500 million this quarter | PCWorld [10:56] schestowitz-TR it is a KIND of bailour [10:56] schestowitz-TR banks: "can't let us fail, we have people's money!!!" [10:56] schestowitz-TR GIAFAM (IBM, Intel): "help... if we fail, as a business, it's a NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS" [10:56] schestowitz-TR the rich are stealing all the cookies from the jar at the EXPENSE of the POOR [10:56] Techrights-sec2 M$ -- "if we fail, you lose backdoor access to the world's government's [10:56] Techrights-sec2 internal communications and documents..." [10:56] Techrights-sec2 s/you/spies/ ● Jul 31 [11:00] schestowitz-TR and "medical records"...."military facilities"... [11:00] schestowitz-TR "polikce access to cameras in people's homes [11:00] schestowitz-TR one laptop of rianne uses chrome, the browserd [11:00] schestowitz-TR I told her to close it when she's not working [11:00] schestowitz-TR god knows what this POS can access [11:00] schestowitz-TR happened before with debian (reportedly had always on mic access) [11:00] schestowitz-TR Gulag was like, "oh, oops, you noticed? ok, will change, real sorry lol" [11:00] schestowitz-TR I've noticed that dave winder, formerr itwire, not forbes, constabntly defends microsof [11:00] schestowitz-TR like he always did at itwire [11:00] schestowitz-TR he covers every "security" thing other than Microsdoft blunders [11:00] schestowitz-TR it's so shallow, esp. if you know his history [11:00] schestowitz-TR sam varghese is 0% signal the poast 2 months [11:00] schestowitz-TR i have his rss feed [11:00] Techrights-sec2 yes, very selective coverage in order to distort public perception [11:01] schestowitz-TR CISA does the same [11:02] schestowitz-TR I put some examples in IRC [11:02] schestowitz-TR some don't go into Daily Links [11:02] schestowitz-TR it's obscene [11:02] schestowitz-TR I reckon many are "former" Softers [11:02] schestowitz-TR "security" hacks [11:02] Techrights-sec2 I am concerned about Sam since he was fading away for a while prior to basically [11:02] Techrights-sec2 disappearing [11:04] schestowitz-TR he helped mobsters attack rms [11:04] schestowitz-TR so rianne lost sympathy for him already [11:04] schestowitz-TR like sjvn, we dubbed them ther "rogue beards" or sorts [11:04] schestowitz-TR or "beard envy" [11:05] schestowitz-TR play of wordds on "penis envy" (Freud) [11:05] schestowitz-TR if you look at the legacy of sjvn, esp. since quinstreet took his site offline with a decade's hard work [11:05] schestowitz-TR (we did managed to salvage LinuxDevices.com after diplomacy) [11:07] Techrights-sec2 ack [11:09] schestowitz-TR oh, wow, so gardiner sells out to Gulag too [11:09] schestowitz-TR double-fisting with DRM and malware [11:09] schestowitz-TR just noticed in Daily Links [11:09] schestowitz-TR btw, his videos are still almost Valve exclusive, now also Gulag excusive [11:09] schestowitz-TR maybe soon Gulag will spread EME some more in videos [11:09] schestowitz-TR trying to become another netflix to out-Microsoft them [11:10] schestowitz-TR tech is getting truly ugly [11:10] schestowitz-TR all I do is, toss a webm out there, done [11:10] schestowitz-TR no JS and "ciommunity guidelines" [11:10] schestowitz-TR that's what the web was supposed to be like [11:10] schestowitz-TR x https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/business-analytics/it-brings-dry-spell-to-white-collar-job-market-in-july/93232362 [11:10] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | IT brings dry spell to white-collar job market in July, CIO News, ET CIO [11:10] schestowitz-TR [11:10] # m$ linked-in is not an authoritative source [11:10] schestowitz-TR github: all coders [11:10] schestowitz-TR linkedin: all jobs [11:10] schestowitz-TR microsoft all CRIME? ;-) [11:10] Techrights-sec2 yep those are the false narratives being pushed [11:13] schestowitz-TR we need to teach people how to properly rebut that [11:13] schestowitz-TR until the media stops it [11:13] schestowitz-TR out of shame at least... [11:14] schestowitz-TR and until the relative share of these "Microsoft" (NSA-funded) companies decreases enough [11:14] schestowitz-TR they never start from below [11:14] schestowitz-TR even MS Office was bought from the top [11:14] schestowitz-TR codeplex failed, soapbox failed... [11:14] Techrights-sec2 yes, it is facilitated by having a proper reference database so one can [11:14] Techrights-sec2 pull up URLs and annotations quickly and easily any time they dust off olld [11:14] Techrights-sec2 debunked material; being able to do that quickly and easily leave more thought [11:14] Techrights-sec2 for then going to the counter attac and addressing what they are distracting [11:14] Techrights-sec2 from [11:14] Techrights-sec2 with M$ there is almost always an element of distraction [11:16] schestowitz-TR maybe I'll do a video re netcraft today [11:16] schestowitz-TR and mrntion uefi in passing [11:16] schestowitz-TR i still have some ntoes [11:23] schestowitz-TR OK, gonna do daily links now, let's see if the header is updated after the push [11:23] schestowitz-TR I assume there's an extra step to pull into the htdocs dir [11:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ta94h6f8vd4dk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:35] schestowitz-TR Jack Wallen promoting Microsoft TypeScript. Did his bosses compromise him too? [11:35] Techrights-sec2 yes the pull has to happen manually though now with the update script in the [11:35] Techrights-sec2 /home/git/tuxmacines.org/ hierarchy that might be automatable, assuming there [11:35] Techrights-sec2 are no changes made in the ServerRoot [11:36] schestowitz-TR I'm aboi21ut to post howtos and wanted to see if I got the hypertext right [11:49] Techrights-sec2 checking [11:49] Techrights-sec2 URL? [11:50] schestowitz-TR any of the latest 4 additions [11:50] schestowitz-TR I am not sure if the top part is included upon request rather than "off-line" [11:51] Techrights-sec2 which top part? [11:51] schestowitz-TR the one that includes alpha notice ● Jul 31 [12:09] Techrights-sec2 yes, live or production [12:09] Techrights-sec2 checking [12:14] Techrights-sec2 it's possible to roll back the commit locally then [12:14] Techrights-sec2 but I have not corrected it yet [12:15] schestowitz-TR was the typo you spooted "livre"? I should ghave typed "live" [12:15] schestowitz-TR I don't want to push the typo correction [12:15] schestowitz-TR in case you did correct it already, as you said you had spoted it [12:17] schestowitz-TR I've pushed typo fix [12:17] schestowitz-TR like I said, I just don't know yet how to pull from prod and don't want to try for fear of breaking something [12:17] schestowitz-TR know how flaky git can be [12:17] schestowitz-TR esp. on the server size (several users, one box) [12:17] Techrights-sec2 ok [12:17] Techrights-sec2 checking [12:17] Techrights-sec2 yes git seems a bit flakey [12:21] schestowitz-TR thanks, I can see you've propagated the changes [12:21] schestowitz-TR I'll keep my promise to myself to mention UEFI every day [12:21] schestowitz-TR don't let the subject "age" [12:21] schestowitz-TR then Part 4 of the Microsoft series [12:21] schestowitz-TR Marius and I are having a good time joking at Fagioli's expense [12:21] schestowitz-TR he wants us to blacklist him again [12:21] schestowitz-TR he rips off his work [12:25] Techrights-sec2 ack [12:25] Techrights-sec2 looking at how to automate the updates [12:36] schestowitz-TR a) will do two long microsoft posts now [12:36] schestowitz-TR b) do you think it's too early to make a nice, lean tuxmachines.org front page akin to techrights.org front page [12:36] schestowitz-TR that gives people an option to turn to the alpha? [12:36] schestowitz-TR if they subscribe to the "wrong" site, we can later correct that with redirects [12:36] Techrights-sec2 too early IMO [12:36] schestowitz-TR right [12:36] Techrights-sec2 too early IMO, still a lot of bugs to work out [12:38] schestowitz-TR back in a bit, will focus on typing [12:38] schestowitz-TR (marius btw is even less tolerant than me of microsoft apologists, he judt doesn't do articles about that) [12:38] Techrights-sec2 ack [12:38] schestowitz-TR when you grow up in soviet romania you learn to keep the mouth zipped [12:39] Techrights-sec2 ack ● Jul 31 [13:22] schestowitz-TR draft [13:31] Techrights-sec2 https://apnews.com/article/archive-fact-checking-2315880316 [13:31] Techrights-sec2 apropos image [13:31] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-apnews.com | Quote wrongly attributed to Mahatma Gandhi | AP News [13:31] schestowitz-TR I thought he was not first [13:40] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:50] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:56] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jul 31 [14:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[14:26] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [14:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:41] schestowitz-TR publishe 2, not doing a third [14:41] schestowitz-TR this morning I found photos of me iun portuga [14:41] schestowitz-TR posted one just to make a point [14:41] schestowitz-TR EPO = imposters [14:52] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:53] britney while doing this britney put agate on her laptop <--- nah, I put shavit on my laptop [14:54] britney I got it working and made a gemini site on my laptop [14:55] britney then i was trying to find a gemini host and no dice ● Jul 31 [15:04] Techrights-sec2 ack [15:05] schestowitz-TR britney: you need a domain [15:05] schestowitz-TR and if you have fixed IP address, use that [15:05] schestowitz-TR keep the laptop on [15:05] schestowitz-TR draft [15:05] Techrights-sec2 ack [15:06] britney I got it to work locally by adding my hostname to the hosts file and used that to connect [15:06] britney everything works now [15:07] britney i want to put my gemini site online though and i don't have a server [15:07] britney so i want to find a gemini hosting provider that is free [15:11] britney schestowitz-TR, https://imgur.com/a/h4hembP [15:11] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Imgur: The magic of the Internet [15:12] schestowitz-TR who runs the world? [15:12] schestowitz-TR football commentator [15:12] schestowitz-TR david icke [15:12] britney reptilians and neanderthals [15:12] schestowitz-TR haha [15:13] schestowitz-TR good one.. [15:13] schestowitz-TR football commentators [15:13] britney it didnt take long to turn my site into a gemini one [15:13] britney .gmi files are basically markdown [15:14] schestowitz-TR even simpler [15:14] britney =>gemini://archbtw/test.gmi This is a link [15:15] Techrights-sec2 might be a little more clarity on how the source was burned [15:15] Techrights-sec2 thanks be sure to annotate the links so that the text is informative even [15:15] Techrights-sec2 in Gemini [15:16] schestowitz-TR draft [15:16] schestowitz-TR I will add links [15:16] schestowitz-TR draft [15:16] schestowitz-TR I will add links [15:17] britney schestowitz-TR, the index.gmi: https://imgur.com/a/aloheRq [15:17] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Imgur: The magic of the Internet [15:19] britney i use arch btw [15:20] britney so i made my hostname "archbtw" [15:21] britney created my openssl keys for the domain archbtw [15:26] schestowitz-TR adding headline, summary, image [15:26] Techrights-sec2 experimenting with MQTT now, perhaps will find a way to have Git updates [15:26] Techrights-sec2 published as notices there; it's set up with TLS v1.3 (both directions) [15:26] Techrights-sec2 client < -- > server and a password [15:26] schestowitz-TR britney: archbtw :-) [15:30] Techrights-sec2 it's not running full time yet [15:48] schestowitz-TR spamnil moved from clickfraud on videos weeks old [15:48] schestowitz-TR to vikdeos days old [15:48] schestowitz-TR 5 days, 11 views lol [15:48] schestowitz-TR got to hide this [15:48] Techrights-sec2 I ignore him, just like the rest of the world [15:48] schestowitz-TR i also noticed he noiw does a video per 2 dasys [15:48] schestowitz-TR a huge slowdown [15:48] schestowitz-TR but the problem is the dragging down of tghe brand [15:48] schestowitz-TR "Linux has been around since the mid-1990s" https://www.linux.com/what-is-linux/ what they speak of has been around since mid 80s [15:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is Linux? - Linux.com [15:48] schestowitz-TR -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- What is Linux? - Linux.com [15:48] schestowitz-TR ter sacking ALL writers and editors at Linux.com, James Zemlin ans Sheela Microsoft let a "former" Microsofter run the site, rehosted then in Pantheon https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linux.com [15:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for http://www.linux.com | Netcraft [15:48] schestowitz-TR -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for http://www.linux.com | Netcraft [15:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Linux.com - News For Open Source Professionals [15:54] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 31 [16:24] Techrights-sec2 acck [16:33] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [16:48] Techrights-sec2 MQTT notifications for Git seems to be an option [16:49] Techrights-sec2 from any computer with the mosquitto-clients package installed [16:58] Techrights-sec2 the Paho client won't work because recent versions ban self-signed certificates ● Jul 31 [17:30] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:32] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 31 [18:26] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [18:26] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:50] schestowitz-TR doing db meaintenance on tm [18:50] schestowitz-TR I had to run ddos protection for the first time in quite a while [18:50] schestowitz-TR the db was still OK, I checked it [18:50] schestowitz-TR as for a while I saw an anomaly [18:50] Techrights-sec2 ack [18:50] schestowitz-TR we'll look back a month at some stage anyway [18:50] schestowitz-TR it won't be a major step, just a routine thing, then copy across the new nodes as static [18:50] schestowitz-TR so the past ~2000 nodes will all be static pages, reducing the load by a lot [18:59] Techrights-sec2 static is a much lower load on the system ● Jul 31 [19:08] schestowitz-TR off-topic rant/mind-drift [19:08] schestowitz-TR last night I checked lxer it it seemed like a fossil [19:08] schestowitz-TR original articles there were like once a year or less [19:08] schestowitz-TR crew is like one person and many pages are a decade out of data [19:08] schestowitz-TR no comment in over a month [19:08] schestowitz-TR and they had editorial perils (that's what the comments were about) [19:08] schestowitz-TR LinuxToday killed all past comments [19:08] schestowitz-TR and it highly bloated, slow [19:08] schestowitz-TR because the CMS came "from above" [19:08] schestowitz-TR one sisze fits all from the parent company [19:08] schestowitz-TR I don't even know who edits it anymore, Sean kerner likely did for a while [19:08] schestowitz-TR I'm not sure he still does [19:08] schestowitz-TR those are our main two "competitor" [19:08] schestowitz-TR I don't want to use that term [19:08] schestowitz-TR as we all have the same goals and should help each others [19:08] schestowitz-TR *other [19:08] schestowitz-TR Slashdot Linux section is on average one new pick every 2 days [19:08] schestowitz-TR usually to the same sites, which game /. [19:08] schestowitz-TR betanews (trolls), phoronix (michael needs some extra boost), zdnet [19:08] schestowitz-TR not much url diversity there, it's all games [19:09] schestowitz-TR *gamed [19:09] schestowitz-TR and lots of Linux-hostile stories, tooo [19:09] schestowitz-TR for PR/Edstrom/MS Shaw and fellow Microsoft troll generals to storm [19:09] schestowitz-TR and pollute [19:10] Techrights-sec2 :( [19:10] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:12] schestowitz-TR hmmm lunduke veering off agaiojn in "Microsoft nostalgia" direction [19:12] schestowitz-TR I don't fancy that [19:12] schestowitz-TR gates romaticising... he never, even when defending rms, mentioned gates/mit [19:12] schestowitz-TR and now some "olidies" from microsoft [19:12] schestowitz-TR so I can skip the feed faste [19:15] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:16] schestowitz-TR in another universe lunduke does an annual speech called Windows Sucks [19:16] schestowitz-TR and talks abotu Bill's connections to Epstein [19:16] schestowitz-TR instead of insinuating Germans who don't celebrate Jewish holidays are nazis [19:18] Techrights-sec2 :/ [19:19] schestowitz-TR I view him with suspicion [19:19] schestowitz-TR there's a phenomenon where you do some pandering to attract the target crowd [19:19] schestowitz-TR and then throw the bomb at them [19:19] schestowitz-TR you cannot be efffective microsoft shill without that crowd [19:19] schestowitz-TR apropos, alan shimel from 'security' buolevard is n promtoped a lot by LF these days [19:19] schestowitz-TR that tells you a lot [19:19] Techrights-sec2 same here. there was an interval for a while when he looked like he was turning [19:19] Techrights-sec2 around [19:20] schestowitz-TR not turnaround m [19:20] schestowitz-TR TURNOVER [19:20] schestowitz-TR he asks for money, he has long done this as a JOB [19:21] Techrights-sec2 either way he was starting to come clean on the M$ stuff [19:21] Techrights-sec2 but for a few years now he has gotten worse and worse, when he bothers to [19:21] Techrights-sec2 cover important topics at all [19:21] schestowitz-TR he throws some straw man at important topics [19:21] schestowitz-TR hand on, URL: [19:22] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/ [19:22] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Lunduke Touches an Important Set of Issues, But Still Gets Pertinent Details a Little Wrong | Techrights [19:22] schestowitz-TR (i don't think it's intentional btw, but it need not be) [19:23] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:26] schestowitz-TR I think those tactics were wholly embraced in the federal/military segments [19:26] schestowitz-TR where you can discredit groups with violent provocatuers, alien "enthusiats" [19:26] schestowitz-TR and racists [19:26] schestowitz-TR the dominion voting [sic] machine [sic] idiotcs did lots of this since jan 6th [19:26] schestowitz-TR btw, i don't think thunberg is a good spokesperson [19:26] schestowitz-TR for several reasons, but that's off topi [19:26] schestowitz-TR for one thing, it makes climate science seem infantile and unhinged, angry [19:26] schestowitz-TR *provocateurs [19:26] schestowitz-TR *imposters [19:26] schestowitz-TR controlled opposition of sorts [19:26] schestowitz-TR I never spoke back to lunduke, he's a liability like "mark fink" [19:27] britney alien "enthusiasts"? you mean like reptilians? [19:32] schestowitz-TR he would not be a good or loyal friend irl (disployal) [19:32] schestowitz-TR he used to attack rms, then acted like his friend [19:32] schestowitz-TR what sort of bipolar person does this?? [19:32] schestowitz-TR I had a big argument over the telephone today [19:32] schestowitz-TR verdict: I won't talk to that person for a month [19:32] schestowitz-TR I'd rather do other thingas [19:32] schestowitz-TR took me two hours to recover my focus [19:32] schestowitz-TR and it's not health eitther [19:33] schestowitz-TR life is too short to waste arguing [19:33] schestowitz-TR if I can switch it off, so be it [19:33] Techrights-sec2 ak [19:34] *techrights-news has quit (Received malformed line) [19:40] Techrights-sec2 ack [19:49] schestowitz-TR i would have to add some extra packages [19:49] schestowitz-TR biab ● Jul 31 [20:26] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:28] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:32] *psydroid3 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:32] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:44] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@kxj5g2xrrex5q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jul 31 [21:27] britney i like shavit for a gemini server [21:28] britney it has self hosted git, its written in go ● Jul 31 [22:14] Techrights-sec2 ack [22:14] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 31 [23:33] schestowitz-TR sounds near [23:33] schestowitz-TR *neat [23:36] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed)