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| schestowitz | > when it comes to truth, the fsf has a GOOD track record. better than | Aug 31 06:14 |
| schestowitz | > anybody. credit is due. | Aug 31 06:14 |
| schestowitz | Would you like that aired as a guest post? | Aug 31 06:14 |
| schestowitz | >>>> There are all sorts of ways it can be used for testing. Maybe it can be | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>>> passed to an external drive to spare space? | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>> I have backups of the 90GB copied VM. However, I was thinking more the | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>> system itself and all its custom networking. I had some really old | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>> spare machines but the CPUs in them were too old for virtualization. | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>> I'm not that keen at throwing any money at a new computer if it has an | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>> x86 architecture. | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >> My laptop is older than 10 years now. No battery, no screen, no | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >> keyboard. All broken/dysfunctional, so I use external power, screen and | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >> keyboard. | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | > The newest of that pair I tried was 12 years old, if I recall correctly. | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | > I tend to run machines till they stop being able to POST. Right now is | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | > a bad time for new computers because x86 stuff is still infectable at | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | > the hardware level and things like PinebookPro are still novelty items. | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>> We can't clone the live VM for a test image without | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>> changing settings or else we risk running two VMs for he site at the | Aug 31 06:19 |
| schestowitz | >>>>>> time time. | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> I think a clone can be done safely maybe by setting the domains to | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> localhost in /etc/hosts inside the VM. That would allow eventual | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>>>> testing of the package upgrades though I think that it will be fine. | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>>> I wonder how much longer this CentOS version has for updates with EPEL. | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>>> Tux Machines would not take as long to rebuild as techrights. I wonder | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>>> if newer PHP versions will at some stage be incompatible with Drupal 6 | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>>> (LTS/extended support). | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>> We have about one year, November 2020 [1], before it becomes an | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>> absolutely critical task. CentOS 8 is not released yet. However, if we | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>> are keeping CentOS, then I would say to migrate from 6 to 8 when the | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>> latter is officially released. Otherwise, I'd prefer and APT-based | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>> distro like Devuan. Which distros are most comfortable for you and Rianne? | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >>> [1] https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product | Aug 31 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wiki.centos.org | About/Product - CentOS Wiki | Aug 31 06:20 | |
| schestowitz | >> kaniini suggested something with containers. That was before he left | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >> Alpine. Right now I'm not sure what to use; I only know it's a major, | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | >> major decision to make. | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | > I've read nothing that I find credible that suggests to me that | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | > containers are a good idea. I prefer 'bare metal'. However, today's | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | > CMSes are not built with shared hosting in mind, though it has been some | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | > years since I checked that. If it still stands, then Qemu is an ok | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | > compromise. | Aug 31 06:20 |
| schestowitz | > thats a quote from the first amendment protocols link you made today. mike masnick-- | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > loved it. | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > but hes rightm the big platforms will never change. | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > this is very much what i have to say about distros as well. | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > until we figure out how to split distros up into smaller things, without the help of the people making them, distros will limit freedom and add (a little) to lock-in. | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > its too much WORK for a distro to work against lock-in. it always was. | Aug 31 06:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > but, once you find a way to do it, they will almost need to do that to compete. | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > to some degree it doesnt matter-- its like with a more ideal browser, the internet doesnt have to change because we will make those decisions on the edges. | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > we need to do that for distros too. its difficult for people to get it, whats the problem with distros, but like the current protocols, they are too much part of big things that never change. | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > we need to make the web and the distro "small" again. smaller communities, smaller platforms, less centralisation for both communication-- and development. | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | > it wont happen overnight. but this is what distro-libre is about. | Aug 31 06:22 |
| schestowitz | Re: ive never been more excited about a gnome project in my life | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > i dislike bloat, i dislike systemd, i dislike gratuitous interdependency, i dislike gnome and their devloper attitudes suck. we know all this. | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > that said, the gnome blog (licensed cc by 4.0, thats better than what the fsf uses) is covering https://gnome.org/news "the gnome foundation launches coding education challenge." | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnome.org | News – GNOME | Aug 31 06:23 | |
| schestowitz | > they touch on things ive spent the past year saying about education, and im very happy about that. | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > of course we need more people doing EXACTLY THIS. we need more free software courses. | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > but theyre selecting 20 winners to receive 6,500 each for ideas, and five of those winners will produce a prototype. | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > THIS. IS. GREAT. | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > imo the fsf should have done this, but as said in the recent (10 days ago) article on free software education in the fsf titanic book-- | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > there should at least be an organisation for educatation that the fsf can support. i suppose this counts as that. | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > im excited. i will be more excited if this sort of thing continues. i mean, there are occasionally new efforts to teach coding and i love them-- we need more than tools, we need educators and education platforms. | Aug 31 06:23 |
| schestowitz | > It's the end of the month already. Summer is over. | Aug 31 06:25 |
| schestowitz | Re: oliva is one of the most interesting people alive-- but today, matt dalio | Aug 31 06:26 |
| schestowitz | > today, matt dalio is more interesting. | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > he is the founder of endless, the group working with gnome to do this coding education challenge. | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > he is from bejing, went to india, he speaks from the heart about learning and technology. | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > the mention of oliva is just to point out how fascinated i am about this guy right now. | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > imo education is the biggest lack in free software, dalio is doing something big about it, and despite gnome being involved im beside myself about this. | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > in free software education history, the biggest deal so far is sugar and olpc. perhaps endless could be part of the next big chapter, since olpc is practically dead. | Aug 31 06:27 |
| schestowitz | > hes actually from ct, his father is billionaire hedge fund manager ray dalio, he went to bejing for a year and india after that. | Aug 31 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > cnbc and wapo covered him a lot in 2015. endless is 7 years old and has more in common with olpc than i thought. | Aug 31 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:28 |
| schestowitz | > still interesting. again, this is the founder of the org working with gnome on this freesw eductation thing. | Aug 31 06:28 |
| schestowitz | >> Would you like that aired as a guest post? | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > i dont know-- for all the time i spend writing, i spend a lot more time thinking. im trying really hard to get closer to a free software curriculum right now-- while learning about matt dalio-- you need to know more about this guy. this is something big. | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > im barely coherent right now because there are so many different things on my mind at the moment. i like products, but im entrenched in r&d at the moment while im trying to be productive. theres only so much i can do to fight that. | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > times like this tend to happen prior to things like the fsf titanic book, or other things you know me for. | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | > but every time i try to write something publishable right now, i find myself getting distracted again. so no, i might try to bounce something off you but im not trying to put an article out at the moment. i am however convinced that if we really want EVERYBODY to understand coding, we need to use logo-for-people. thats not a concept i invented, its a very common concept applied to robots and drawing and in folk tradition, the game " | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | simon sez". cheers. by the way, i get the feeling that the free software community is on the verge of something. im mostly a philosopher and technologist, but i have a slight penchant for mysticism. eric s raymond has more of one, i dont do much in the way of rituals, just thought. | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | So is that a yes or a no? | Aug 31 06:30 |
| schestowitz | Re: howto wiki> you should setup a wiki for howto stuff. | Aug 31 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > let people contribute to it freely. make it cc by-sa 3.0 for all contributions, and let people contribute under cc0 as an option (you dont have to be as explicit about that, they can be.) | Aug 31 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > i dont mean to put this on you, i was actually thinking of the wikipedia foundation. but i was thinking "imagine if there was a wikipedia but for howtos" the real problem is deletionists, and youre not one, and it wont work if you mix it with the rest of your wiki-- so im just tossing the idea your way. it could help with this education thing, in general. | Aug 31 06:32 |
| schestowitz | That kind of thing exists already. I know people who contribute to these. | Aug 31 06:32 |
| schestowitz | > So is that a yes or a no? | Aug 31 06:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:37 |
| schestowitz | > fair question-- for the moment, no, thank you. | Aug 31 06:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:37 |
| schestowitz | > im still working on things, trying to figure out what (exactly) to do next. | Aug 31 06:37 |
| schestowitz | You can turn that into a long article | Aug 31 06:37 |
| schestowitz | >> You can turn that into a long article | Aug 31 06:41 |
| schestowitz | > i need to figure out what im writing first. ive spent a day or two trying to do that, both by sitting and writing and by thinking. | Aug 31 06:41 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:41 |
| schestowitz | > usually one of those works. sometimes its more interesting when it takes longer for me to get started, which is what is going on now. | Aug 31 06:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 06:42 |
| schestowitz | >> That kind of thing exists already. I know people who contribute to these. | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > yeah, they only count if the licensing is right and the scope is right. | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > the scope for this is related to free software and free culture-- education. so no, this doesnt already exist. but alright, you win that one. | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > endless does endlessos-- you keep posting about it. | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > so im going to have to look into endless os-- perhaps i will try to make a version of it that doesnt need systemd. | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > i need to do that anyway, im done with void, its time to move on from that. | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 07:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1167505628966862849 | Aug 31 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: indeed https://t.co/SlE1KwmVQn | Aug 31 07:44 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: It should be #freesw by default and never #proprietarysoftware as @glynmoody insinuates here https://t.co/fBqtcSLWyT | Aug 31 07:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/stautistic/status/1167538034729865216 | Aug 31 07:45 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz My MacBook works great...the dog is my impediment 🤣 https://t.co/TklajSPBUF | Aug 31 07:45 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@stautistic: @schestowitz My MacBook works great...the dog is my impediment 🤣 https://t.co/TklajSPBUF | Aug 31 07:45 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jaffamonkey/status/1167574447873757191 | Aug 31 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jaffamonkey: @schestowitz The irony of this tweet of a JoinDiaspora post is so delicious 😁 Sorry, in flippant mood today 😂 | Aug 31 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1167574872857436160 | Aug 31 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@zoobab: @schestowitz url? | Aug 31 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1167577615328104448 | Aug 31 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jhamby: Because #GitHub is free as in beer. https://t.co/5UulnPgdmX | Aug 31 07:47 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: " #LineageOS clearly has the resources to self-host software like #GitLab CE. I don't see why they're putting them… https://t.co/y06e55qn3h | Aug 31 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TwstdFishy/status/1167657374548746240 | Aug 31 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TwstdFishy: "This is not the way we reduce mass shootings in America. This is not a tool to confront white supremacist attacks.… https://t.co/2zSFwlEjQW | Aug 31 07:48 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TwstdFishy: "This is not the way we reduce mass shootings in America. This is not a tool to confront white supremacist attacks.… https://t.co/2zSFwlEjQW | Aug 31 07:48 | |
| schestowitz | ""This is not the way we reduce mass shootings in America. This is not a tool to confront white supremacist attacks. Rather, this is an open invitation to trample the Constitution and give free reign to a dictatorial regime."" | Aug 31 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Re: cron jobs on TM and TR> I've updated the times in the cron jobs on TR and TM to match the system | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > time change to UTC better. | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > Here are the ones for TR | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > $ crontab -l | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > SHELL=/bin/sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 39 03 * * * /home/boycottn/get_dbs.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 12 05 * * * /home/boycottn/bin/fetch-tm-dump.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 19 05 * * * /home/boycottn/bin/delete-old-tm-dumps-except-mondays.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > $ sudo crontab -l | grep -Ev '^#' | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > MAILTO="bytesmedia@bytesmedia.co.uk" | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 0 04 * * * /usr/local/sbin/disk-usage.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 0 05 * * * /usr/local/sbin/traffic-volume.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 0 05 * * * /usr/local/sbin/tr-sizes.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 0 05 * * * /usr/local/sbin/tm-sizes.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 5 06 * * Sun /root/clear-archive.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 58 * * * * wget -O - -q -t 1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/cron.php | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > 5 * * * * /root/send_email >> /tmp/out 2>&1 | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > And on TM: | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > $ sudo crontab -l | grep -Ev '^#' | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > */5 * * * * /home/nagios/bin/passive-checks.sh | Aug 31 08:48 |
| schestowitz | > MAILTO="roy@schestowitz.com,lars.nooden@gmail.com" | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > 0 12 * * * find /var/spool/mail/ -type f -size +1c | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > 0 16 * * * /etc/init.d/puppet restart > /dev/null 2>&1 | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > 0 16 * * * /root/bin/find-hg.sh | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > 39 20 * * * /home/boycottn/get_dbs.sh | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > However, I see some references there to Puppet. I presume they are not | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > needed any more. Can we remove the tasks and the comments? | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Oh, excellent! I see you tidied up my cron jobs too. | Aug 31 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | NO TITLE | Aug 31 08:49 | |
| schestowitz | In case we do install puppet one day, commeting out the jobs would be preferable. | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Tracy used to use Puppet. | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Yesterday I had to reboot TM and did so fast. | Aug 31 08:49 |
| schestowitz | >> In case we do install puppet one day, commeting out the jobs would be | Aug 31 09:24 |
| schestowitz | >> preferable. | Aug 31 09:24 |
| schestowitz | > Ok. What about this one from TR's root's cron job? | Aug 31 09:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 09:24 |
| schestowitz | > 58 * * * * wget -O - -q -t 1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/cron.php | Aug 31 09:24 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | > That looks shakey and maybe a good idea to comment it out too. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | No, don't comment it out. It's lame, but it''s Drupal's fault. It's actually necessary. It helps invoke internal Drupal jobs, like refreshing | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/aggregator/sources | Aug 31 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | News Feeds | Tux Machines | Aug 31 09:25 | |
| schestowitz | >> Tracy used to use Puppet. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I recall asking him via e-mail about it but never got an answer. I | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | > expect it is unlikely that we'll have so many machines in the TR server | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | > farm that Puppet will be useful again any time in the near future. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Today I belatedly removed two logos of his hosting site, which is offline anyway. I only yesterday (at the gym) noticed that I had forgotten about these. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/home | Aug 31 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Techrights | People's rights in the digital age | Plutocracy threatened by freedom, democracy, privacy & civil rights | Aug 31 09:25 | |
| schestowitz | >> Yesterday I had to reboot TM and did so fast. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | > About 15:29 my time. I saw the red light on when I came back indoors | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | > but noticed that both a lot of time had passed and that TM was back up | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | > and running already. The down time was short enough that the other | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | > monitor I have did not even trigger. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Good to know you also noticed. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Rianne alerted me initially. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | To ensure no concurrent reboot (which I think alpine would prevent anyway), I keep an eye on VM/HV status. Oddly enough it lacks some commands like who and last. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | I think we both back up the sites often enough for peace of mind. I took 7 days off work this month. Expect my pace to go up a lot. | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | Photos I might publish tomorrow (Ireland) | Aug 31 09:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1167709940481441792 | Aug 31 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: #climatecrisis https://t.co/hIoAFeQHuN | Aug 31 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Florida preps for an 'absolute monster': #Hurricane #Dorian https://t.co/4FVErcfupG | Aug 31 09:30 | |
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| schestowitz | <li> | Aug 31 09:38 |
| schestowitz | <h5><a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2019/08/is-perl-6-being-renamed.html">Is Perl 6 Being Renamed?</a></h5> | Aug 31 09:38 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2019/08/is-perl-6-being-renamed.html">Is ) | Aug 31 09:38 | |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Aug 31 09:38 |
| schestowitz | <p>In short, for many people the debate comes down to whether or not they have a financial future in working with a languagea they love. But they don't get to make that decision; people who control the purse strings do. Trademark law often deals with the concept of confusing similarity because the market can easily get confused when two names are so very similar. And as any any competent salesperson can tell you, | Aug 31 09:38 |
| schestowitz | when your customer is confused, they don't buy. | Aug 31 09:38 |
| schestowitz | </p> | Aug 31 09:38 |
| schestowitz | <p> | Aug 31 09:38 |
| schestowitz | So that's where we are. We have a very confusing issue which, it appears, that much of the Perl 6 community agrees needs to be sorted. Much of the Perl 5 community appears to feel the same way. | Aug 31 09:38 |
| schestowitz | </p></blockquote></li> | Aug 31 09:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1167799280205217792 | Aug 31 16:23 |
| schestowitz | "It does seem that open source has been usurped by corporate interests: Linux is Not Free/Libre If DRM is Adopted and Open Source is Meaningless in the Age of Openwashing" | Aug 31 16:23 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: It does seem that open source has been usurped by corporate interests: Linux is Not Free/Libre If DRM is Adopted an… https://t.co/HlPhDePSCH | Aug 31 16:23 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: It does seem that open source has been usurped by corporate interests: Linux is Not Free/Libre If DRM is Adopted an… https://t.co/HlPhDePSCH | Aug 31 16:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JohnDav49920708/status/1167756991785123843 | Aug 31 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JohnDav49920708: @schestowitz Yeahh..another 12 years is what we have..I believe it will be #climatechange that will bring the end of #capitalism | Aug 31 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JohnDav49920708/status/1167758835659853827 | Aug 31 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@JohnDav49920708: #Twitter CEO's account hacked - Tweets - Nazi Germany did nothing wrong 🤭 https://t.co/tPfG1upq6d | Aug 31 18:08 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey's account [cracked] https://t.co/HsM6RsC20Y iophk: phone numbers are NOT a second factor | Aug 31 18:08 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/1167787436874878978 | Aug 31 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kaddourkardio: @schestowitz They rather recruit @Mahrez22 for the next season, i fear pepe will not give him the place he deserves. | Aug 31 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | he played today, starting lineup | Aug 31 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/1167797474624462848 | Aug 31 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz @glynmoody @zoobab I don't like the UPC either and, in fact, fought against its predecessor, EPLA. But… https://t.co/b6DjC443C7 | Aug 31 18:10 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz @glynmoody @zoobab I don't like the UPC either and, in fact, fought against its predecessor, EPLA. But… https://t.co/b6DjC443C7 | Aug 31 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "I don't like the UPC either and, in fact, fought against its predecessor, EPLA. But let me ask out of curiosity: what makes you so sure that continental EU governments wouldn't simply get a revised UPC agreement ratified by their parliaments? I can't see why they wouldn't." | Aug 31 18:10 |
| schestowitz | That would take time. A long time. And EPO is meanwhile rotting alone with the system. | Aug 31 18:10 |
| schestowitz | *along | Aug 31 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1167813212793913344 | Aug 31 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: The Enigma Machine. @schestowitz https://t.co/1uxxJTU2TT | Aug 31 18:11 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> observablehq.com | Enigma machine / Tom MacWright / Observable | Aug 31 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/greganomix87/status/1167824637239033856 | Aug 31 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@greganomix87: Interesting #read on how #corrupt things have been for a long #time . #love and #unity are good tools to #unite us… https://t.co/pX8DfGcDd6 | Aug 31 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@greganomix87: Interesting #read on how #corrupt things have been for a long #time . #love and #unity are good tools to #unite us… https://t.co/pX8DfGcDd6 | Aug 31 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 31 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Interesting #read on how #corrupt things have been for a long #time . #love and #unity are good tools to #unite us all. Sadly this level of corruption is becoming more believable as more gets #exposed . #real ? Not real? Some serious #Facts on this read | Aug 31 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/greganomix87/status/1167824637239033856 | Aug 31 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LA_ReyRey/status/1167829168404533253 | Aug 31 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LA_ReyRey: @schestowitz @ManCity Must have looked better in your head 😂 | Aug 31 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Manny_EG7/status/1167829727693934594 | Aug 31 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Manny_EG7: @schestowitz @ManCity Please don't mention the cursed VAR You may jinx our next game | Aug 31 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1167831810027524097 | Aug 31 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "Katharine Gun worked as an analyst for Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), the British equivalent of th… https://t.co/WeEUXJDXBb | Aug 31 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: "Katharine Gun worked as an analyst for Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), the British equivalent of th… https://t.co/WeEUXJDXBb | Aug 31 18:12 | |
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| schestowitz | "" | Aug 31 18:13 |
| schestowitz | ""Katharine Gun worked as an analyst for Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), the British equivalent of the secretive U.S. National Security Agency. She tried to stop the impending invasion of Iraq in early 2003 by exposing the deceit of George W. Bush and Tony Blair"" | Aug 31 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "Katharine Gun worked as an analyst for Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), the British equivalent of the secretive U.S. National Security Agency. She tried to stop the impending invasion of Iraq in early 2003 by exposing the deceit of George W. Bush and Tony Blair" | Aug 31 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/1167843498462187520 | Aug 31 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Especially when as any half decent cattle farmer will tell you that the vast majority of cases in UK they are carbon neutral. | Aug 31 18:13 | |
| schestowitz | > You've probably seen this already: | Aug 31 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/08/31/1230214 | Aug 31 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | WordPress Sites Under Attack as Hacker Group tries to Create Rogue Admin Accounts - SoylentNews | Aug 31 20:02 | |
| schestowitz | wordpress plugins have long been a risk; hence I barely add any | Aug 31 20:02 |
| schestowitz | the link looks like it's going to zdnet and might thus feed the catalin troll. I don't want to give him any traffic. | Aug 31 20:02 |
| schestowitz | >> You can turn that into a long article | Aug 31 20:06 |
| schestowitz | > i need to figure out what im writing first. ive spent a day or two trying to do that, both by sitting and writing and by thinking. | Aug 31 20:06 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 31 20:06 |
| schestowitz | > usually one of those works. sometimes its more interesting when it takes longer for me to get started, which is what is going on now. | Aug 31 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Aug 31 20:06 | |
| schestowitz | Your long message was the best, but put in tandem all the past ~10 messages you sent, maybe do a long essay about it. I'd publish it. The text is already there, needs seaming and capitalising. | Aug 31 20:07 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to offend FSF people; but if a site associates has another set of views, let them be heard. | Aug 31 20:07 |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1167851222856081409 | Aug 31 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: You have to admit, when he said this he was just like any other privileged asshole, bragging. That he went on to be… https://t.co/tUVxXC3LMC | Aug 31 20:11 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: You have to admit, when he said this he was just like any other privileged asshole, bragging. That he went on to be… https://t.co/tUVxXC3LMC | Aug 31 20:11 | |
| acer-box | "You have to admit, when he said this he was just like any other privileged asshole, bragging. That he went on to become President of the United States, says more about the United States than it does about him." | Aug 31 20:11 |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/Anno0770/status/1167856945895751686 | Aug 31 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Anno0770: @schestowitz I recently saw that the CPU shown in the presentation is now on GitHub https://t.co/HP1b58jhOc the LIC… https://t.co/2LY50nZIWp | Aug 31 20:11 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> github.com | GitHub - antonblanchard/microwatt: A tiny Open POWER ISA softcore written in VHDL 2008 | Aug 31 20:11 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Anno0770: @schestowitz I recently saw that the CPU shown in the presentation is now on GitHub https://t.co/HP1b58jhOc the LIC… https://t.co/2LY50nZIWp | Aug 31 20:11 | |
| acer-box | "I recently saw that the CPU shown in the presentation is now on GitHub https://github.com/antonblanchard/microwatt… the LICENSE is not really open source but then OSHW licenses are not there yet." | Aug 31 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 400 @ https://github.com/antonblanchard/microwatt… ) | Aug 31 20:11 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/nomibwave/status/1167859986887659520 | Aug 31 20:12 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@nomibwave: @schestowitz There are no more than 50k-100k protesters max. Those 800k youtube followers are bots paid with compl… https://t.co/nxhjn6ZpSH | Aug 31 20:12 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@nomibwave: @schestowitz There are no more than 50k-100k protesters max. Those 800k youtube followers are bots paid with compl… https://t.co/nxhjn6ZpSH | Aug 31 20:12 | |
| acer-box | "There are no more than 50k-100k protesters max. Those 800k youtube followers are bots paid with compliments by CIA and NED. Even the traitor Joshua Wong (arrested) has no more than 250k and half of them aren't protesters. His tweets all obviously written by his CIA handler." | Aug 31 20:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/extremelabs/status/1167836236041609218 | Aug 31 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@extremelabs: @BrideOfLinux I'm wary of the term "openwashing", often used as a pejorative. Some of the motivation for early free… https://t.co/Ljx5EnRpue | Aug 31 21:03 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@extremelabs: @BrideOfLinux I'm wary of the term "openwashing", often used as a pejorative. Some of the motivation for early free… https://t.co/Ljx5EnRpue | Aug 31 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | "I'm wary of the term "openwashing", often used as a pejorative. Some of the motivation for early free/open s'ware was to plainly sucessfully mock the stupidity of closed source (with much validity). The bizmodels are shifting to FOSS. Fine with me. Open & free always win." | Aug 31 21:03 |
| schestowitz | The term openwashing is always used when a party, e.g. company, uses the term Open Source when its business model is actually selling (licensing, renting) proprietary software. So it's a form of forgery. | Aug 31 21:05 |
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