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● Oct 04
[00:05]	TR News	 (NEW): Maui Report 19 - MauiKit http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Maui_Report_19_MauiKit.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Maui_Report_19_MauiKit.gmi 
[00:05]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Maui Report 19 - MauiKit
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[00:08]	TR News	Phoronix became super corporate-friendly. You'll never find it expressing a POV that might alienate Big Sponsors.
[00:10]	TR News	"Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 755 for the week of September 25 October 1, 2022." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/10/03/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-755/
[00:10]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-fridge.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 755
[00:11]	TR News	 (NEW): Announcing git-cinnabar 0.6.0rc1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Announcing_git_cinnabar_0_6_0rc1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Announcing_git_cinnabar_0_6_0rc1.gmi 
[00:11]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Announcing git-cinnabar 0.6.0rc1
[00:19]	TR News	 (NEW): Ubuntu Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi 
[00:19]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Ubuntu Leftovers
[00:34]	TR News	Links 03/10/2022: Git 2.38.0 and cinnabar 0.6.0rc1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/git-2-38-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/git-2-38-0/
[00:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 03/10/2022: Git 2.38.0 and cinnabar 0.6.0rc1 | Techrights
[00:34]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[00:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[00:34]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.3.gmi 
[00:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's leftovers
[00:37]	TR News	IAM must be dying fast. Without authorisation it added my address to a list of people to send marketing spam to. How many others were put in the same list? It's not even legal! And they claim to provide legal advice!
[00:50]	TR News	Did Sam Varghese publish this because he wanted to or because it was imposed upon him as obligatory marketing fluff? https://itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/australia-post-joins-the-crowd-reselling-nbn-broadband-connections.html
[00:50]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-iTWire - Australia Post joins the crowd reselling NBN broadband connections
● Oct 04
[01:03]	TR News	Stadia is Googles Product Strategy - Daniel Miessler <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Daniel Miessler" href="https://danielmiessler.com/blog/stadia-is-googles-product-strategy-now/">Read on</a>
[01:03]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-danielmiessler.com | Stadia is Google's Product Strategy - Daniel Miessler
[01:05]	TR News	"As I ranted about with Googles management interfaces, the interfaces seem completely oblivious to how people will actually use the products. So they fail." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/stadia-is-googles-product-strategy-now/
[01:06]	TR News	"Against this backdrop, Google had also planned to establish its own gaming studio for exclusive titles. Stadia was touted to be the next disruptive thing in the gaming industry." https://analyticsindiamag.com/stadia-joins-the-league-of-extraordinary-killed-by-google-projects/
[01:06]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-analyticsindiamag.com | Stadia Joins The League Of Extraordinary Killed by Google Projects
[01:08]	TR News	Facebook profits from people who strive to kill off the planet https://michaelwest.com.au/vales-point-profits-and-squalid-pr-tactics-seven-pavel-st-baker/
[01:08]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-michaelwest.com.au | Beyond the Vales: towering profits and squalid PR tactics at the twilight of the coal boom - Michael West
[01:09]	TR News	The clown computing delusion/trap/bait and switch: "almost 50% IT professionals are currently facing difficulties in controlling cloud costs, and almost a third of the respondents witnessed a 2550% hike in cloud prices." https://analyticsindiamag.com/cloud-prices-are-hurting-enterprises-bad-but-there-might-be-ways-out/
[01:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-analyticsindiamag.com | Cloud Prices Are Hurting Enterprises Bad, But There Might Be Ways Out
[01:41]	TR News	Trolled by Microsofts Lennart Poettering and Bought by Wintel | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/bought-by-wintel/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/bought-by-wintel/
[01:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Trolled by Microsofts Lennart Poettering and Bought by Wintel | Techrights
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● Oct 04
[02:04]	TR News	3x3 https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/erling-haaland-manchester-city-hat-tricks-63800396
[02:04]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.mancity.com | Watch: Erling Haaland's City hat-tricks
[02:22]	TR News	This graph is... baffling. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202210
[02:22]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-gs.statcounter.com | Worldwide Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
[02:23]	TR News	Windows 27.1% market share https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202210
[02:23]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
[02:25]	TR News	IRC Widgets Working Again | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-widgets/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-widgets/
[02:25]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC Widgets Working Again | Techrights
[02:32]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-031022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-031022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-031022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-031022.txt
[02:32]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022
[02:33]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-031022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-031022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-031022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-031022.txt
[02:33]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022
[02:34]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-031022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-031022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-031022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-031022.txt
[02:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022
[02:35]	TR News	Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-031022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-031022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-031022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-031022.txt
[02:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022
[02:37]	TR News	Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/
[02:37]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights
[02:41]	TR News	prices of monitors have gone up in the UK. Same specs as 5 years ago, but prices higher (for same specs). Sterling weak. https://www.argos.co.uk/search/monitor/opt/page:7/sort:price/
[02:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 403 @ https://www.argos.co.uk/search/monitor/opt/page:7/sort:price/ )
[02:43]	TR News	2800 gemini capsules known gemini://botond.online/en/stats/ gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[02:44]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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[02:46]	TR News	https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-ceo-tests-positive-covid-2022-09-24/
[02:46]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Pfizer CEO tests positive for COVID for a second time | Reuters
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● Oct 04
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[03:08]	TR News	Efficacy Declining Due to Bad COVID-19 Policy (a Do-Nothing Attitude) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/covid-19-variant-efficacy/
[03:08]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Efficacy Declining Due to Bad COVID-19 Policy (a Do-Nothing Attitude)
[03:09]	TR News	Rise in Covid cases and hospital patients shows winter wave has begun, government official warns https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-autumn-wave-latest-cases-b2177905.html
[03:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.independent.co.uk | Rise in Covid cases shows winter wave has begun, government officials warns | The Independent
[03:09]	TR News	"Coronavirus infections are on the rise in the UK, with cases increasing by 14 per cent week-on-week, according to official estimates." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-infections-uk-rise-flu-winter-b2184671.html
[03:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.independent.co.uk | Covid infections on the rise in the UK | The Independent
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[03:12]	TR News	10% more than the usual deaths this past month https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending16september2022
[03:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.ons.gov.uk | Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
[03:13]	TR News	Is COVID-19 hurting your heart? A new study finds cardiac muscle damage in COVID patients | Salon.com https://www.salon.com/2022/10/03/is-19-hurting-our-hearts-a-new-study-finds-cardiac-muscle-damage-in-patients/
[03:13]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Is COVID-19 hurting your heart? A new study finds cardiac muscle damage in COVID patients | Salon.com
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[03:33]	TR News	ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/ons-vaccine-data/
[03:33]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines
[03:48]	TR News	"If I should owe my allegiance to any programming language, it would be Hare." https://drewdevault.com/2022/10/03/Does-Rust-belong-in-Linux.html | Source: Drew DeVault
[03:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-drewdevault.com | Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel?
[03:48]	TR News	"The Linux 6.0 kernel is out, formerly "5.20," and on its way to a distro near you." https://www.talospace.com/2022/10/linux-60.html | Source: Talospace
[03:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.talospace.com | Linux 6.0
[03:48]	TR News	"So, as is hopefully clear to everybody, the major version number change is more about me running out of fingers and toes" https://www.lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/2/255 |
[03:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 6.0
[03:55]	TR News	"The problem with free text logging is that is it very hard to keep it consistent and hard to process automatically..." https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/10/03/structured-logging-in-powerdns-recursor/ | Source: PowerDNS
[03:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.powerdns.com | Structured Logging in PowerDNS Recursor | PowerDNS Blog
[03:55]	TR News	"I recently acquired a 3M Whisper Writer 1000 communications terminal circa 1983, and restored it to working order." https://jcs.org/2022/10/02/whisper_writer | Source: JCS
[03:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-jcs.org | BBSing at 300 Bits Per Second - joshua stein
[03:55]	TR News	"Its time to get me up on speed with modern CSS." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day6/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
[03:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.matuzo.at | Day 6: the :has() pseudo-class - Manuel Matuzovi
[03:55]	TR News	"Having swap is a reasonably important part of a well functioning system." https://chrisdown.name/2018/01/02/in-defence-of-swap.html |
[03:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-chrisdown.name | NO TITLE
[03:55]	TR News	"And here comes a new challenger. Developer ultimaweapon has released a brand new Playstation 4 emulator for the PC" https://game-news24.com/2022/10/03/obliteration-is-a-new-ps4-emulator-for-pc-windows-linux/ |
[03:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-game-news24.com | Obliteration is a new PS4 Emulator for PC (Windows/Linux) - Game News 24
● Oct 04
[04:01]	TR News	25th Anniversary of FreeDOS https://lunduke.substack.com/p/25th-anniversary-of-freedos-with | Source: Bryan Lunduke
[04:01]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lunduke.substack.com | 25th Anniversary of FreeDOS -- with the creator of FreeDOS
[04:01]	TR News	"I upgraded to Fedora 37 several days ago (pre-release)." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/02/fedora-37-and-seamonkey-2-53-14/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
[04:01]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-baronhk.wordpress.com | Fedora 37 and SeaMonkey 2.53.14. | BaronHK's Rants
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[04:11]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, October 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[04:11]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[04:11]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:11]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:12]	TR News	"This message is an automated, unofficial publication of vote results. " https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2022/10/msg00000.html | Source: Debian
[04:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.debian.org | Results for non-free firmware
[04:12]	TR News	"The discussion period has been extended with 7 days by the Debian Project Leader." https://www.debian.org/vote/2022/vote_003 |
[04:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.debian.org | General Resolution: non-free firmware
[04:13]	TR News	"The headline result is: Choice 5 / Proposal E won: Change SC for non-free firmware in installer, one installer." https://blog.einval.com/2022/10/02#firmware-vote-result | Source: Steve McIntyre
[04:13]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.einval.com | Steve's blog
[04:13]	TR News	"The Debian project is making a major change to how it handles proprietary software in the next version." https://www.makeuseof.com/debian-votes-to-include-non-free-firmware/ | Source: Make Use Of
[04:13]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.makeuseof.com | Debian Makes Major Change, Will Include Non-Free Firmware in Future Installers
[04:13]	TR News	"The vote also changes the Debian Social Contract to make it clear that including non-free firmware in this manner is allowed." https://lwn.net/Articles/910065/ | Source: LWN
[04:13]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Debian's firmware vote results [LWN.net]
[04:13]	TR News	"This was my ninety-ninth month that I did some work for the Debian LTS initiative, started by Raphael Hertzog at Freexian" https://blog.alteholz.eu/2022/10/my-debian-activities-in-september-2022/ |
[04:13]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-My Debian Activities in September 2022 blog.alteholz.eu
[04:16]	TR News	I hope that Phoronix does not further slide into the territories of corporate crackpots (lies), but it certainly seems that way...
[04:17]	TR News	"2. Production limitations because of the global components shortage." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/you-cant-buy-raspberry-pi-right-now | Source: Jeff Geerling
[04:17]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.jeffgeerling.com | You can't buy a Raspberry Pi right now | Jeff Geerling
[04:17]	TR News	"Now sometime this year the machine running that database had to be replaced (should have done that earlier" https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/the_geeks_way_of_checking | Source: NetBSD
[04:17]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.netbsd.org | NetBSD Blog
[04:18]	TR News	"In this post I'm going to try and explain some of the factors that I think contributed to UML's downfall. To some extent this is a historical document, at least of my perspective. But, with the benefit of hindsight" https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/uml_my_part_in_its_downfall.html | Source: Lawrence Tratt
[04:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Cannot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/uml_my_part_in_its_downfall.html )
[04:18]	TR News	"The following describes snippets for executing shell commands, in Java, Scala, and Kotlin, using standard functionality" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/10/03/execute-shell-commands-in-java-scala-kotlin/ | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu
[04:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-alexn.org | Execute Shell Commands in Java/Scala/Kotlin - Alexandru Nedelcu
[04:21]	TR News	"I find this curious. I don't think it is bad or wrong or unbloggerly. Just a bit odd." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/blog-to-speech/ | Source: Terence Eden
[04:21]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-shkspr.mobi | Blog To Speech Terence Edens Blog
[04:21]	TR News	"Lately, I've been in a movement to limit my access to Mastodon, so I can focus on my family, or things like reading and studying." https://afhub.dev/brief-thoughts-on-mastodon/ | Source: Andre Franca
[04:21]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Peer reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://afhub.dev/brief-thoughts-on-mastodon/ )
[04:22]	TR News	"Boarding an airplane is no fun. Usually, it's done by airline status or back-to-front." https://matt-rickard.com/the-steffen-boarding-method | Source: Matt Rickard
[04:22]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-matt-rickard.com | The Steffen Boarding Method
[04:23]	TR News	"It is relevant to ask, then, if we interpret a frequentist confidence interval of level $$ as a Bayesian credible interval of level $$, what prior does this imply?" https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/03/freq-bayes-ci.html | Source: Lee Yingtong Li
[04:23]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yingtongli.me | Bayesian biostatistics procedures matching frequentist confidence intervals
[04:23]	TR News	Sweden's Paabo wins medicine Nobel https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1973911.html | Source: RTL
[04:23]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - A week of winner announcements: Sweden's Paabo wins medicine Nobel for sequencing Neanderthal DNA
[04:25]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D718.jpg
[04:25]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D373.jpg
[04:26]	TR News	"Much of the negative commentary I've read about Gemini recently seems to focus on how much convenient functionality it lacks relative to the Web--functionality such as forms, in-line links, and stateful connections." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202210/20221003-2022-week-38-39-thoughts-and-photos.gmi
[04:27]	TR News	"Critical thinking is the most powerful weapon in the arsenal of humankind. It is like a sharp sword that cuts through the follies of society, leaving nothing undefiled in its wake. Yet, when deployed improperly, it can also injure the thinker, bring ruin to his or her life, and ultimately accomplish nothing productive." gemini://jhpotter.srht.site/gemlog/chestertons-fence.gmi
[04:29]	TR News	"The personal implications of this are insightful. Often there are parts of my life that I start to dismantle without understanding the purpose of it. This leads me to despair at points, since I realize that there is really nothing founding the majority of what holds my own identity together." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/everything-is-rotten.gmi
[04:29]	TR News	"I believe everything is rotten. Our institutions are designed to serve those already in power, states cannot respond properly to any social issues, corporations are empowered to destroy the environment for profit, and so much more." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/everything-is-rotten.gmi
[04:31]	TR News	"As I heard from a wise indigenous anarchist, abolishing capitalism will probably increase our standard of living, but abolishing colonialism will likely lower it. This is because our lives have been built upon institutions that depend on genocide." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/everything-is-rotten.gmi
[04:32]	TR News	"In an ordinary conventional company (or more broadly many organizations), everyone present not merely matters to the company but also is paid by the company and actively work for it." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/UniversityNonEmployeesII | Source: uni Toronto
[04:32]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/UniversityNonEmployeesII
[04:32]	TR News	"I made the mistake today of reading some social media comments (twitter, reddit, arstechnica, slashdot) on a topic I know a bit about and have read a lot of the background on." https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/10/02/this-article-is-too-long-for-you/ | Source: Positech Games
[04:32]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.positech.co.uk | This article is too long for you Cliffski's Blog
[04:33]	TR News	iophk: trolls and CoCs https://lobste.rs/s/a5qtl3/use_mit_license_instead
[04:33]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lobste.rs | Use an MIT license instead | Lobsters
[04:33]	TR News	iophk: there are no Nobel Prizes for professional wrestling, astrology, or economics never have been, never will be
[04:34]	TR News	itwire still blocked by clownflare https://itwire.com/security/after-12-days,-optus-finally-says-2-1m-customers-had-data-stolen.html
[04:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-iTWire - After 11 days, Optus finally says 2.1m customers had ID data stolen
[04:35]	TR News	This term has been taken out of context and meaning, much like "antivaxxer" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/03/technology/konnech-election-conspiracy-theories.html
[04:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nytimes.com | How a Tiny Elections Company Became a Conspiracy Theory Target - The New York Times
[04:35]	TR News	Destiny burns the last bridge https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/destiny-burns-the-last-bridge:4
[04:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-odysee.com | Destiny burns the last bridge
[04:36]	TR News	old: fsdg https://osboot.org/news/policy.html#problems-with-fsdg
[04:36]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-osboot.org | osboot Binary blob minimalisation policy
[04:36]	TR News	brazil https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2022/10/03/brazils-presidential-election-will-go-to-a-run-off
[04:36]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Brazils presidential election will go to a run-off | The Economist
[04:36]	TR News	twitter https://boingboing.net/2022/10/03/elon-whines-about-bot-attack-as-his-pro-russian-twitter-poll-trends-ukraines-way-and-countrys-ambassador-to-germany-tells-him-to-fuck-off.html
[04:36]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-boingboing.net | Elon complains of "bot attack" as his pro-Russian Twitter poll heads Ukraine's way | Boing Boing
[04:37]	TR News	Inflation in Turkey surges to 83% - BillBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63120478 Source: BillBC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63120478
[04:37]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.bbc.co.uk | Inflation in Turkey surges to 83% - BBC News
[04:37]	TR News	estonia https://news.err.ee/1608737218/estonian-president-russia-trying-to-force-europe-into-a-corner
[04:37]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.err.ee | Estonian president: Russia trying to force Europe into a corner | News | ERR
[04:37]	TR News	zappa https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/frank-zappas-satirical-acid-tongued-valley-girl-like-totally-turns-40-301626072.html
[04:37]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.prnewswire.com | FRANK ZAPPA'S SATIRICAL, ACID-TONGUED "VALLEY GIRL" LIKE, TOTALLY TURNS 40
[04:37]	TR News	austria https://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2022/10/austrian-president-wants-all-austrian.html
[04:37]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-garyfouse.blogspot.com | FOUSESQUAWK: Austrian President Wants All Austrian Women to Wear Headscarves
[04:38]	TR News	old: Gulag http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Is-Google-losing-it-1375315.html
[04:38]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.h-online.com | Is Google losing it? - The H Open: News and Features
[04:38]	TR News	old: Gulag is NOT a friend http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Whatever-happened-to-Google-1875864.html
[04:38]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.h-online.com | Whatever happened to Google? - The H Open: News and Features
[04:38]	TR News	Sacheen Littlefeather, who gave Marlon Brando's Oscar rejection speech, dies at 75 https://text.npr.org/1126515900 Source: BillPR | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//text.npr.org/1126515900
[04:38]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-text.npr.org | Sacheen Littlefeather, who gave Marlon Brando's Oscar rejection speech, dies at 75
[04:39]	TR News	RFC 9308: Applicability of the QUIC Transport Protocol https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9308.html Source: RFC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9308.html
[04:39]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.rfc-editor.org | RFC 9308: Applicability of the QUIC Transport Protocol
[04:39]	TR News	"Many times, their statement is an opinion. Let me explain why" https://opensource.com/article/22/10/obsolete-computer-linux-opportunity | Source: OpenSource.com
[04:39]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Is your old computer 'obsolete', or is it a Linux opportunity? | Opensource.com
[04:39]	TR News	"Containerization is all the rage right now. Docker, introduced back in 2014, has become the most popular tool for managing containers." https://linuxhandbook.com/docker-vs-podman/ | Source: Linux Handbook
[04:39]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-linuxhandbook.com | Podman vs Docker: What's the Difference?
[04:40]	TR News	"Ready to try more game demos? Now is your chance once again as Steam Next Fest - October 2022 Edition is live." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-next-fest-october-2022-edition-is-live-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[04:40]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Steam Next Fest - October 2022 Edition is live now | GamingOnLinux
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[04:42]	TR News	"Recently at the Akademy 2022 conference, KDE's David Edmundson gave a talk on the Steam Deck and the ongoing work in KDE to improve things." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/kde-steam-deck-akademy-2022/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[04:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-KDE devs talk Steam Deck and their work for it at Akademy 2022, over a million shipped | GamingOnLinux
[04:42]	TR News	"Are you having issues with Red Dead Redemption 2 on either the Steam Deck or a Linux desktop with an AMD GPU? Well, upcoming driver updates should improve it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/amd-driver-update-red-dead-redemption-2-better-on-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[04:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-AMD driver update gets Red Dead Redemption 2 working better on Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinux
[04:43]	TR News	"The latest Steam Hardware & Software Survey is out now for September 2022, with it showing that clearly the Steam Deck with SteamOS is the most popular way now to game on Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steamos-and-steam-deck-on-top-for-linux-in-the-steam-hardware-survey/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[04:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-SteamOS and Steam Deck on top for Linux in the Steam Hardware Survey | GamingOnLinux
[04:43]	TR News	"Valve has recently put up a fresh update for Proton Experimental, bringing more game compatibility and some fixes." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/proton-experimental-updates-fix-up-indiana-jones-final-fantasy-iv-3d-remake/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[04:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Proton Experimental updates fix up Indiana Jones, Final Fantasy IV (3D Remake) | GamingOnLinux
[04:44]	TR News	"In this tutorial, we are going to install WonderCMS on Ubuntu 22.04, and we will use Nginx as a web server." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-wondercms-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting
[04:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-How to Install WonderCMS on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting
[04:45]	TR News	"How long will you support your device? Long-term support for IoT is a simple but difficult question for many device manufacturers." https://ubuntu.com//blog/iot-project-lifecycle-long-term-support-for-iot-devices | Source: Ubuntu
[04:45]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-IoT project lifecycle long-term support for IoT devices | Ubuntu
[04:46]	TR News	"In this guide, we will cover how to use conditional statements in the bash script" https://www.linuxbuzz.com/use-conditional-statements-if-else-in-bash-script/ | Source: Linux Buzz
[04:46]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.linuxbuzz.com | How to Use Conditional Statements (if-else) in Bash Script
[04:47]	TR News	"WishFlix is a French pirate streaming site that chose GitHub as its hosting platform." Boycott Microsoft and GitHub for much better reasons than this... https://torrentfreak.com/hosting-a-pirate-streaming-site-on-github-isnt-the-best-idea-221003/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[04:47]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Hosting a Pirate Streaming Site on GitHub Isn't the Best Idea * TorrentFreak
[04:49]	TR News	"First, I'll explain the authors' conclusion, then I'll explain the evidence that supports it." https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/03/powell-memo/#means-motive-opportunity | Source: CoryDoctorow
[04:49]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 03 Oct 2022 An antitrust murder whodunnit Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
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[05:09]	TR News	"People who fail to understand the basics of supply and demand continue to insist suppliers want to kill potential customers" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/doj-senate-leader-continue-to-stoke-irrational-fear-that-drug-dealers-are-targeting-kids-with-multicolored-fentanyl/ | Source: Techdirt
[05:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-DOJ, Senate Leader Continue To Stoke Irrational Fear That Drug Dealers Are Targeting Kids With Multicolored Fentanyl | Techdirt
[05:09]	TR News	"5G [hype] Network" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/dishs-new-5g-network-remains-kind-of-a-mess/ | Source: Techdirt
[05:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Dishs New 5G Network Remains Kind Of A Mess | Techdirt
[05:10]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Stadia, Steam, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Games_Stadia_Steam_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Games_Stadia_Steam_and_More.gmi 
[05:10]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Games: Stadia, Steam, and More
[05:12]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[05:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's howtos
[05:12]	TR News	Hopefully Lula will be back soon... he supports Free software and standards like ODF https://www.thenation.com/article/world/brazil-election-lula-bolsonaro/ | Source: The Nation
[05:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Lula Wins the First Round, but Bolsonarismo Is Here to Stay | The Nation
[05:12]	TR News	"big publishers attacks on libraries" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/publishers-lose-their-shit-after-authors-push-back-on-their-attack-on-libraries/ | Source: Techdirt
[05:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Publishers Lose Their Shit After Authors Push Back On Their Attack On Libraries | Techdirt
[05:12]	TR News	Capitol bribes https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/capitol-flight-how-dems-dropped-the-stock-ban/ | Source: The Nation
[05:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Capitol Flight: How Dems Dropped the Stock Ban | The Nation
[05:13]	TR News	Off the Record: Barack Obama on Donald Trump https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/obama-interview-trump/ | Source: The Nation
[05:13]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Off the Record: Barack Obama on Donald Trump | The Nation
[05:15]	TR News	SCOTUS https://www.thenation.com/article/society/supreme-court-voting-rights-act/ | Source: The Nation
[05:15]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | This Supreme Court Will Decide the Fate of the Voting Rights Act | The Nation
[05:15]	TR News	R&D = code word for PATENTS and MONOPOLIES https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/new-study-shows-that-high-rd-costs-dont-explain-high-drug-prices/ | Source: Techdirt
[05:15]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-New Study Shows That High R&D Costs Dont Explain High Drug Prices | Techdirt
[05:19]	TR News	"On May 24, 1861, the fate of the Civil War was unclear" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/thulani-davis-emancipation-circuit/ | Source: The Nation
[05:19]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Thulani Daviss Freedom Visions | The Nation
[05:20]	TR News	"In the cases the court agreed to hear, relatives of people killed in terrorist attacks in France and Turkey had sued Gulag," https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/high-court-hear-social-media-terrorism-lawsuits-90917012 | Source: ABC
[05:20]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-abcnews.go.com | High court will hear social media terrorism lawsuits - ABC News
[05:20]	TR News	"Iranian lawmaker labeled women who have taken off mandatory headscarves to protest against the death of Mahsa Amini" https://www.dhakatribune.com/middle-east/2022/09/28/irans-nationwide-protests-pile-pressure-on-state | Source: Dhaka Tribune
[05:20]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.dhakatribune.com | Iran: Lawmaker labels female protesters as prostitutes
[05:21]	TR News	"Korangi SSP Faisal Bashir Memon said all the victims were firemen, who were there to respond to any fire emergency in the area." https://www.dawn.com/news/1712932/two-firemen-shot-dead-in-targeted-attack-on-korangi-fire-station | Source: Dawn Media
[05:21]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Two firemen shot dead in targeted attack on Korangi fire station - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
[05:24]	TR News	"I get that stock photos are a thing and that political campaigns or teams may be pressed for time" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/lazy-ass-house-gop-uses-foreign-stock-photos-in-video-about-america/ | Source: Techdirt
[05:24]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Lazy-Ass House GOP Uses Foreign Stock Photos In Video About America | Techdirt
[05:25]	TR News	"businesses forced to close for lack of staff" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/sarah-jaffe-aaron-benanav-automation-work/ | Source: The Nation
[05:25]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Has Labor Become More or Less Powerful Over the Last Two Decades? | The Nation
[05:26]	TR News	Stop the Ukraine War https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/03/stop-the-ukraine-war-refuse-to-handle-military-cargo/ | Source: Counter Punch
[05:26]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Stop the Ukraine War: Refuse to Handle Military Cargo - CounterPunch.org
[05:26]	TR News	Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad on Ukraine https://www.democracynow.org/2022/10/3/noam_chomsky_us_isolated_ukraine_war | Source: Democracy Now
[05:26]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad on Ukraine, Why U.S. Must Negotiate with Russia & What Media Gets Wrong | Democracy Now!
[05:27]	TR News	Brazil https://www.democracynow.org/2022/10/3/noam_chomsky_vijay_prashad_brazil_election | Source: Democracy Now
[05:27]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad on Brazil Election, Lulas Leftist Platform & Fears of a Bolsonaro Coup | Democracy Now!
[05:28]	TR News	Lula https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/03/lula-vows-resolve-as-brazil-heads-toward-runoff/ | Source: Scheerpost
[05:28]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Lula Vows Resolve as Brazil Heads Toward Runoff - scheerpost.com
[05:29]	TR News	Biden & Putin https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/03/scott-ritter-the-onus-is-on-biden-putin/ | Source: Scheerpost
[05:29]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Scott Ritter: The Onus Is on Biden & Putin - scheerpost.com
[05:30]	TR News	Lithuanians https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/10/03/suing-gorbachev | Source: Meduza
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[05:31]	TR News	"Dmitry Ozerkov, the head curator of contemporary art at St. Petersburgs State Hermitage, has resigned from his position after 22 years of working at Russias celebrated art museum." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/03/dmitry-ozerkov-head-curator-of-contemporary-art-resigned-from-hermitage | Source: Meduza
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[05:33]	TR News	annexation https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/03/russia-s-state-duma-more-than-unanimous-in-ratifying-annexation-treaties-with-more-votes-in-favor-than-deputies-present | Source: Meduza
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[05:34]	TR News	Kherson https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/10/03/the-ukrainian-offensive-in-the-kherson-and-donetsk-regions | Source: Meduza
[05:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE
[05:34]	TR News	Freedom of Information: "Mediazona reports that Russias Interior Ministry has placed the former Channel One editor Marina Ovsyannikova on the federal wanted list." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/03/former-channel-one-editor-marina-ovsyannikova-placed-on-russia-s-federal-wanted-list | Source: Meduza
[05:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-meduza.io | NO TITLE
[05:39]	TR News	Grassroots https://truthout.org/articles/grassroots-groups-in-mississippi-are-pushing-for-representation-in-local-office/ | Source: TruthOut
[05:39]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Grassroots Groups in Mississippi Are Pushing for Representation in Local Office
[05:40]	TR News	Subverting PS4 And PS5 Through The PS2 Emulator https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/subverting-ps4-and-ps5-through-the-ps2-emulator/ | Source: Hackaday
[05:40]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Subverting PS4 And PS5 Through The PS2 Emulator | Hackaday
[05:40]	TR News	"Many devices use infrared (IR) as a signalling medium like, for example, RGB LED strip controllers modules and some TV controllers" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/your-own-home-ir-cloner/ | Source: Hackaday
[05:40]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Your Own Home IR Cloner | Hackaday
[05:41]	TR News	""Im not an expert on internal Google politics, but it seems to meand Ive heard elsewherethat they pretty much let engineers run everything. https://danielmiessler.com/blog/stadia-is-googles-product-strategy-now/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
[05:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-danielmiessler.com | Stadia is Google's Product Strategy - Daniel Miessler
[05:41]	TR News	Proprietary https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/innovative-public-services/news/interview-ai-procurement-clauses | Source: Joinup
[05:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Interview AI Procurement Clauses | Joinup
[05:42]	TR News	"I pretty much stumbled over sematicon and their N200 Series on my quest for Hardware Security Modules (HSM) of almost any shape and size" https://jpmens.net/2022/10/02/the-se-sam-n200-hsm-with-pkcs-11/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens
[05:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-jpmens.net | Jan-Piet Mens :: DNSSEC signing with the se.SAM N200 HSM with PKCS#11
[05:43]	TR News	"For months, scientists have been expressing concern about the increase in cardiovascular diseases among COVID-19 patients" https://www.salon.com/2022/10/03/is-19-hurting-our-hearts-a-new-study-finds-cardiac-muscle-damage-in-patients/ | Source: Salon
[05:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Is COVID-19 hurting your heart? A new study finds cardiac muscle damage in COVID patients | Salon.com
[05:43]	TR News	">In a claim filed in Massachusetts, it alleged that the companies have undermined Mexican gun laws by designing" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/mexico-to-appeal-after-us-judge-dismisses-lawsuit-against-gun-manufacturers/ | Source: Mexico News Daily
[05:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-mexiconewsdaily.com | Mexico to appeal after US judge dismisses suit against gun industry
[05:44]	TR News	"From 1967 to 2007, the Federal Bureau of Investigation methodically collected information about Aretha Franklin using false phone calls" https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/aretha-franklin-fbi-file-surveillance-1234602217/ | Source: Rolling Stone
[05:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.rollingstone.com | Aretha Franklin Was Tracked by the FBI for 40 Years Rolling Stone
[05:44]	TR News	"Now the Greek authorities are researching new methods to detect border crossings from the air." https://digit.site36.net/2022/10/03/artificial-intelligence-for-border-surveillance-greece-tests-autonomous-drone-swarms/ | Source: Site36
[05:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-digit.site36.net | Artificial intelligence for border surveillance: Greece tests autonomous drone swarms Security Architectures in the EU
[05:44]	TR News	"Palantir Technologies had a secret plan to deepen its relationship with the UKs National Health Service" https://www.inkl.com/news/palantir-had-secret-plan-to-crack-uk-health-system-buying-our-way-in/lvadqXCvnxv | Source: Inkl
[05:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.inkl.com | Peter Thiels Palantir Had Secret Plan to Crack UKs
[05:44]	TR News	"The UN prohibits North Korea from ballistic and nuclear weapons tests." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63126534 | Source: BBC
[05:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.bbc.co.uk | North Korea fires ballistic missile over Japan - BBC News
[05:45]	TR News	"senior election security lead at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), said because of those threats" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3669329-us-faces-election-worker-shortage-ahead-of-midterms-due-to-rise-in-threats/ | Source: The Hill
[05:45]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-thehill.com | US faces election worker shortage ahead of midterms due to rise in threats | The Hill
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[09:34]	TR News	"The Justice Department alleges that Rhodes and members of his organization plotted to oppose the peaceful transfer of power" https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/oath-keepers-leader-regretted-not-guns-jan-6-prosecutors-say-seditious-rcna50244 | Source: NBC
[09:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nbcnews.com | Oath Keepers leader regretted not having guns on Jan. 6, prosecutors say at seditious conspiracy trial
[09:34]	TR News	"Rhodes is on trial alongside Oath Keepers Kelly Meggs, Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins and Thomas Caldwell" https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3672326-government-lays-out-case-against-oath-keepers-in-jan-6-sedition-trial/ | Source: The Hill
[09:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-thehill.com | Prosecutors lay out sprawling sedition case against Oath Keepers | The Hill
[09:35]	TR News	"Will hundred thousand dead in Mariupol vote?" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/03/volodymyr-zelensky-hits-back-elon-musk-tweets-peace-plan-ukraine/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
[09:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.telegraph.co.uk | Volodymyr Zelensky hits back at Elon Musk after he tweets his peace plan for Ukraine
[09:35]	TR News	"Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and four other members of the far-right group tried to change history" https://text.npr.org/1126576420 | Source: NPR
[09:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-text.npr.org | Oath Keepers planned an armed rebellion, prosecutor tells jury in sedition case
[09:35]	TR News	 (NEW): #HowTo Enable, Disable Keyboard, Mouse and Touch Devices via Terminal http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/How_to_Enable_Disable_Keyboard_Mouse_and_Touch_Devices_via_Term.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/How_to_Enable_Disable_Keyboard_Mouse_and_Touch_Devices_via_Term.gmi 
[09:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines How to Enable, Disable Keyboard, Mouse and Touch Devices via Terminal
[09:36]	TR News	Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/
[09:36]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights
[09:37]	TR News	"Ginni Thomas is sticking to the Big Lie, even when testifying before the January 6 committee." https://www.salon.com/2022/10/03/ginni-thomas-and-the-oath-keepers-signal-the-no-regrets-phase-of-january-6-apologia/ | Source: Salon
[09:37]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Ginni Thomas and the Oath Keepers signal the "no regrets" phase of January 6 apologia | Salon.com
[09:38]	TR News	"The Registrar/Chief Executive of Teachers Registration Council of Nigeria (TRCN), Professor Josiah Ajiboye" https://thenigerialawyer.com/over-2295-teachers-killed-in-north-east-schools-attacks-says-trcn/ |
[09:38]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-thenigerialawyer.com | NO TITLE
[09:39]	TR News	"Registrar/chief executive of Teachers Registration Council of Nigeria (TRCN), Professor Josiah Ajiboye" https://tribuneonlineng.com/attack-on-schools-over-2295-teachers-killed-in-north-east-between-2009-2022-says-trcn/ | Source: Nigerian Tribune
[09:39]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-tribuneonlineng.com | Attack On Schools: Over 2,295 teachers killed in North East between 2009 2022, says TRCN
[09:39]	TR News	"here have been 27,539 crossings since then home secretary Priti Patel announced the deal with the east African nation " https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/national/22997035.number-migrants-crossing-channel-year-edges-closer-33-000/ |
[09:39]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.oxfordmail.co.uk | Number of migrants crossing the Channel this year edges closer to 33,000 | Oxford Mail
[09:40]	TR News	"So the problem has gone out of control for a variety of reasons" https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/channel-crossings-crisis-out-of-control-home-secretary-ad-274455/ | Source: Kent UK
[09:40]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.kentonline.co.uk | Channel crossings crisis is 'out of control', says Home Secretary Suella Braverman
[09:41]	TR News	"Each Channel dinghy generally carries more than 40 migrants and is said by police to have netted the smugglers around 70,000" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/22/police-catch-people-smuggling-gang-behind-50-channel-crossings/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
[09:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.telegraph.co.uk | Police catch people-smuggling gang behind 50 Channel crossings
[09:42]	TR News	"The grenade was taken to a nearby patch of woodland and neutralised in a controlled explosion." https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1974210.html | Source: RTL
[09:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Building site discovery: Unexploded WWII bomb found in Hosingen
[09:42]	TR News	"The unmarked vessel carrying cameras and other electronic equipment was found on a beach at Omega Bay" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/22/mystery-military-drone-spying-russias-black-sea-fleet-discovered/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
[09:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.telegraph.co.uk | Mystery military drone washes up on Crimea beach
[09:42]	TR News	"But we dont follow that rule about terrorism-in-process, at least not in the form of the former Presidents own tweets." https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/10/01/stop-magnifying-the-former-presidents-incitement/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler
[09:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.emptywheel.net | Stop Magnifying the Former President's Incitement - emptywheel
[09:46]	TR News	"The bill states that private companies with 50249 employees must introduce an internal channel that enables the anonymous reporting of misconduct by 17 December 2023." https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22276-law-on-whistleblower-protection-finally-moving-forward-in-finland.html | Source: Helsinki Times
[09:46]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22276-law-on-whistleblower-protection-finally-moving-forward-in-finland.html )
[09:46]	TR News	"Kardashian failed to disclose that she was paid $250,000 to publish a post on her Instagram account about EMAX tokens" https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/kim-kardashian-settle-sec-charges-illegally-hyped-crypto-1235391186/ | Source: Variety
[09:46]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Kim Kardashian Paying $1.26 Million to Settle SEC Crypto-Hype Charges - Variety
[09:47]	TR News	"The Securities and Exchange Commission said Monday Kardashian has agreed to pay a fine of $1 million" https://text.npr.org/1126526883 | Source: NPR
[09:47]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-text.npr.org | SEC charges Kim Kardashian for unlawfully touting crypto on her Instagram account
[09:47]	TR News	"Why is a gasoline moped allowed to do 30, but an electric one only 20? Oil industry bribes to legislators" https://soylentnews.org/~mcgrew/journal/12434 | Source: Soylent News
[09:47]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-soylentnews.org | Journal of mcgrew (701)
[09:48]	TR News	"Organizations have a strong interest in making sure that the devices people use to do their work (and access to organization's resources) are secure." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/UniversityBYODAndSecurity | Source: uni Toronto
[09:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/UniversityBYODAndSecurity
[09:48]	TR News	"To this day, those serving in the White House remain aware that they are not above the law." https://www.thenation.com/article/society/nixon-watergate-jan-6/ | Source: The Nation
[09:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | What We Can Learn From Watergate | The Nation
[09:48]	TR News	"We are discontinuing Google Translate in mainland China due to low usage" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3672497-google-shuts-down-translation-feature-in-china/ | Source: The Hill
[09:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-thehill.com | Google shuts down translation feature in China | The Hill
[09:49]	TR News	"It marks the end of one of Google's last remaining products in the world's second-largest economy." https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/03/google-shuts-down-translate-service-in-china-.html | Source: CNBC
[09:49]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cnbc.com | Google shuts down Translate service in China
[09:51]	TR News	will
[09:51]	TR News	"We Will Be on the Streets" https://truthout.org/articles/we-will-be-on-the-streets-lula-vows-to-keep-fighting-in-runoff-with-bolsonaro/ | Source: TruthOut
[09:51]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | "We Will Be on the Streets": Lula Vows to Keep Fighting in Runoff With Bolsonaro
[09:52]	TR News	National Archives https://truthout.org/articles/national-archives-says-its-still-missing-docs-trump-removed-from-white-house/ | Source: TruthOut
[09:52]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | National Archives Says It's Still Missing Docs Trump Removed From White House
[09:52]	TR News	Liz TrumpSS https://truthout.org/articles/liz-truss-is-roiling-the-british-economy-in-her-zeal-to-serve-the-1-percent/ | Source: TruthOut
[09:53]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Liz Truss Is Roiling the British Economy in Her Zeal to Serve the 1 Percent
[09:53]	TR News	unionisation https://truthout.org/articles/ilhan-omar-and-ro-khannas-offices-overwhelmingly-vote-to-unionize/ | Source: TruthOut
[09:53]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Ilhan Omar and Ro Khannas Offices Overwhelmingly Vote to Unionize
[09:54]	TR News	Well, how about Tor bagging bribes from Microsoft proxy DDG?? To recommend Microsoft espionage... https://blog.torproject.org/role-tor-project-board-conflicts-interest/ | Source: Tor
[09:54]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.torproject.org | The Role of the Tor Project Board and Conflicts of Interest | The Tor Project
[09:57]	TR News	Battery Life https://xkcd.com/2680/
[09:57]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-xkcd: Battery Life
[09:59]	TR News	Covid infections on the rise in the UK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/covid-19-variant-efficacy/
[09:59]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Efficacy Declining Due to Bad COVID-19 Policy (a Do-Nothing Attitude)
● Oct 04
[10:00]	TR News	to better assess efficacy, based on data rather than what pharmaceutical companies advertise in the media https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/ons-vaccine-data/
[10:00]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines
[10:01]	TR News	ast weeks public appearance by Torvalds seemed reluctant and a tad embarrassing (the media pointed out the awkwardness, too); whose idea was that, the Linux Foundations? http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/bought-by-wintel/
[10:01]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Trolled by Microsofts Lennart Poettering and Bought by Wintel | Techrights
[10:01]		*Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social
[10:01]	TR News	After turbulence and technical issues at KiwiIRC weve managed to get a semi-working solution or some workaround http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-widgets/
[10:01]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC Widgets Working Again | Techrights
[10:02]	TR News	As we noted yesterday, Windows is down sharply this month (27.1% market share worldwide) and the decreases are very significant in Africa, where Android (Linux-based) is spreading fast. Heres a chart for Africa, showing Microsofts decrease to about 16%. http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/
[10:02]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights
[10:10]	TR News	"My long-term anxiety sees every month as less than guaranteed. Sometimes I can't even take a week for granted. If I had the ball, all I would have to do is ask, and know whether or not my anxiety is well-founded...but doing so puts a countdown on the rest of my life, regardless of whether the answer is in 6 weeks or 6 decades." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1142
[10:11]	TR News	"Under the delusions of market capitalism, fossil fuel has been a remarkable source of energy to cheaply enable far-reaching transportation. Its all illusory because weve been paying for that wealth by wrecking our own planet." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/re-rotten
[10:11]	TR News	"Abolishing that will decrease our standard of living very much. And weve got to, or well die. Thats what gasoline populists dont understand." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/re-rotten
[10:13]	TR News	"SpaceBeans is currently using the latest OSS version of Akka (the service relies on Akka Streams), and I don't plan to use the non-OSS version, so this is the end of the road for SpaceBeans as it is today." gemini://capsule.usebox.net/gemlog/20221004-akka-and-the-future-of-spacebeans.gmi
[10:14]	TR News	Bolsonaro https://truthout.org/articles/bolsonaro-pushes-brazenly-false-claims-of-election-fraud-after-first-round-loss/ | Source: TruthOut
[10:14]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Bolsonaro Pushes Brazenly False Claims of Election Fraud After First Round Loss
[10:14]	TR News	Florida https://truthout.org/articles/every-single-florida-house-republican-voted-against-disaster-relief-funding/ | Source: TruthOut
[10:14]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Every Single Florida House Republican Voted Against Disaster Relief Funding
[10:15]	TR News	Election https://truthout.org/articles/the-supreme-court-may-well-legalize-election-theft-this-term/ | Source: TruthOut
[10:15]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | The Supreme Court May Well Legalize Election Theft This Term
[10:15]	TR News	More strikes https://truthout.org/articles/workers-have-held-more-strikes-so-far-in-2022-than-in-all-of-2021-data-finds/ | Source: TruthOut
[10:15]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Workers Have Held More Strikes So Far in 2022 Than in All of 2021, Data Finds
[10:16]	TR News	Collective Trauma Summit 2022 https://www.desmog.com/2022/10/03/xiye-bastida-climate-justice-indigenous-wisdom-collaboration-reciprocity/ | Source: DeSmog
[10:16]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-We Have to Start Questioning What Systems We Are Participating In - DeSmog
[10:16]	TR News	"In the first article, Ive given you an overview of Lithium-Ion batteries and cells as building blocks for our projects" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/lithium-ion-batteries-are-easy-to-find/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:16]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Lithium-Ion Batteries Are Easy To Find | Hackaday
[10:17]	TR News	nonsense https://www.desmog.com/2022/10/03/scrap-uks-net-zero-target-key-figure-in-pro-truss-think-tank-tells-tory-conference/ | Source: DeSmog
[10:17]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Scrap UKs Net Zero Target, Key Figure in Pro-Truss Think Tank Tells Tory Conference - DeSmog
[10:17]	TR News	Generic Ballot Polling https://fair.org/slider/the-persistently-faulty-record-of-generic-ballot-polling/ | Source: FAIR
[10:17]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-fair.org | The Persistently Faulty Record of Generic Ballot Polling - FAIR
[10:18]	TR News	Nuclear Plant https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/ancient-nuclear-plant-computer-finds-new-home-in-bletchley-museum/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Ancient Nuclear Plant Computer Finds New Home In Bletchley Museum | Hackaday
[10:19]	TR News	"Humans arent always great at respecting each others privacy" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/big-brother-or-dumb-brother-bus-drivers-in-beijing-are-forced-to-wear-emotional-monitors/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:19]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Big Brother Or Dumb Brother? Bus Drivers In Beijing Are Forced To Wear Emotional Monitors | Hackaday
[10:19]	TR News	Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/laser-zaps-cockroaches-over-one-meter/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:19]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Laser Zaps Cockroaches Over One Meter | Hackaday
[10:19]	TR News	"[Maud Bausier] and [Antoine Jaunard] believe we should all know about tempeh a traditional Indonesian food made out of legumes fermented with fungi." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/hackaday-prize-2022-an-easy-to-build-fermenter-for-tempeh/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:19]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Hackaday Prize 2022: An Easy-To-Build Fermenter For Tempeh | Hackaday
[10:20]	TR News	"This audit exposes the danger that some climate finance claims could simply be greenwashing." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/oxfam-warns-world-bank-could-be-significantly-overstating-climate-spending | Source: Common Dreams
[10:20]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Oxfam Warns World Bank 'Could Be Significantly Overstating' Climate Spending
[10:20]	TR News	"European failure to take action in the face of grave human rights abuses" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/rights-groups-implored-eu-leaders-denounce-israeli-apartheid-summit | Source: Common Dreams
[10:20]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Rights Groups Implored EU Leaders to Denounce Israeli Apartheid at Summit
[10:21]	TR News	Brazil https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/brazilians-elect-three-transgender-progressives-congress | Source: Common Dreams
[10:21]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Brazilians Elect Three Transgender Progressives to Congress
[10:21]	TR News	ExxonMobil https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/supreme-court-gives-biden-doj-chance-prove-its-commitment-climate-justice | Source: Common Dreams
[10:21]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Supreme Court Gives Biden DOJ a Chance to Prove Its Commitment to Climate Justice
[10:22]	TR News	Roe v. Wade https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/03/when-you-have-no-choice-pro-violence-society | Source: Common Dreams
[10:22]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | When You Have No Choice in a Pro-Violence Society | Andrea Mazzarino
[10:22]	TR News	Right-Wing University https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/03/rise-right-wing-university | Source: Common Dreams
[10:22]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Rise of the Right-Wing University | Mike Lofgren
[10:22]	TR News	annexation https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/03/novak-only-v4-president-to-not-sign-presidential-declaration-condemning-russian-annexation-of-ukrainian-territories | Source: Telex (Hungary)
[10:22]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-telex.hu | Telex: Novk only V4 president to not sign presidential declaration condemning Russian annexation of Ukrainian territories
[10:22]	TR News	Orbn https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/03/orban-this-is-the-beginning-of-cannibalism-in-europe | Source: Telex (Hungary)
[10:22]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-telex.hu | Telex: Orbn: This is the beginning of cannibalism in Europe
[10:23]	TR News	bolsonaro https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/02/brazil-votes-live-lula-wins-first-round-over-far-right-bolsonaro-runoff-oct-30 | Source: Common Dreams
[10:23]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Brazil Votes Live: Lula Wins the First Round Over Far-Right Bolsonaro; Runoff Oct. 30
[10:23]	TR News	"Watching images of hurricane devastation is, of course, disturbing." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/03/hurricane-ians-devastation-crime-scene-and-big-oil-holding-bloodied-knife | Source: Common Dreams
[10:23]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Hurricane Ian's Devastation Is a Crime SceneAnd Big Oil Is Holding the Bloodied Knife | Linda McQuaig
[10:27]	TR News	Telex is 2 https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/03/birthday-greetings-from-readers-and-telex-partners-around-the-world | Source: Telex (Hungary)
[10:27]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-telex.hu | Telex: Birthday greetings from our readers and Telex partners around the world
[10:27]	TR News	lula https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/we-will-be-streets-lula-vows-resolve-brazil-heads-toward-runoff | Source: Common Dreams
[10:27]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'We Will Be on the Streets': Lula Vows Resolve as Brazil Heads Toward Runoff
[10:27]	TR News	Environmental Protection Agency https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/future-clean-water-line-supreme-court-takes-challenge-bedrock-law | Source: Common Dreams
[10:27]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Future of Clean Water on the Line' as Supreme Court Takes Up Challenge to Bedrock Law
[10:28]	TR News	Should the Ocean Have Legal Rights? https://therevelator.org/ocean-legal-rights/ | Source: The Revelator
[10:28]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-therevelator.org | Should the Ocean Have Legal Rights? The Revelator
[10:28]	TR News	Energy https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/their-greed-knows-no-bounds-analysis-shows-ongoing-price-gouging-oil-giants | Source: Common Dreams
[10:28]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Their Greed Knows No Bounds': Analysis Shows Ongoing Price Gouging by Oil Giants
[10:29]	TR News	"The United Nations has said we should have no new oil." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/doing-my-son-uk-climate-activist-gives-interview-while-handcuffed-hauled-cops | Source: Common Dreams
[10:29]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Doing This for My Son': UK Climate Activist Gives Interview While Handcuffed, Hauled Off by Cops
[10:29]	TR News	Puppy Killer https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/dr-oz-puppy-killer-fetterman-campaign-responds-reporting-animal-testing | Source: Common Dreams
[10:29]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Dr. Oz Is a Puppy Killer': Fetterman Campaign Responds to Reporting on Animal Testing
[10:30]	TR News	Criminals on tap https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/03/make-no-mistake-donald-trump-ballot | Source: Common Dreams
[10:30]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Make No Mistake: Donald Trump Is on the Ballot | Robert Reich
[10:30]	TR News	"The presence of firearms at polling places will act as a force multiplier for violence and could result in abuses of the right to life." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/we-must-not-stand-amnesty-urges-state-leaders-ban-guns-near-polling-places | Source: Common Dreams
[10:30]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'We Must Not Stand By': Amnesty Urges State Leaders to Ban Guns Near Polling Places
[10:31]	TR News	"The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers on Friday gave approval to Amplify Energy Corp. to repair the damaged infrastructure" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/green-groups-say-ruptured-oil-pipeline-should-be-scrapped-not-repaired | Source: Common Dreams
[10:31]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Green Groups Say Ruptured Oil Pipeline Should Be ScrappedNot Repaired
[10:31]	TR News	SCOTUS https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/03/new-term-begins-extremist-right-wing-supreme-court | Source: Common Dreams
[10:31]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | A New Term Begins for This Extremist Right-Wing Supreme Court | Madiba Dennie
[10:31]	TR News	"They need to reverse their whole economic, discredited trickle-down strategy" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/uks-truss-drops-tax-break-wealthy-austerity-threat-remains-amid-tory-class-war | Source: Common Dreams
[10:31]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | UK's Truss Drops Tax Break for Wealthy, But Austerity Threat Remains Amid 'Tory Class War'
[10:32]	TR News	Dr. Oz https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/new-reporting-exposes-dr-oz-malicious-scam-artist-says-fetterman | Source: Common Dreams
[10:32]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | New Reporting Exposes Dr. Oz as 'Malicious Scam Artist,' Says Fetterman
[10:33]	TR News	Poor kids https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/03/will-congress-extend-corporate-tax-breaks-not-tax-provisions-reduce-child-poverty | Source: Common Dreams
[10:33]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Will Congress Extend Corporate Tax Breaks But Not Tax Provisions That Reduce Child Poverty? | Steve Wamhoff
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[10:40]	TR News	"We have the tools to calm inflation and support all vulnerable groups. This is a matter of policy choices and political will." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/step-back-edge-recession-un-urges-central-banks-stop-rate-hikes | Source: Common Dreams
[10:40]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | To 'Step Back From the Edge of Recession,' UN Urges Central Banks to Stop Rate Hikes
[10:40]	TR News	War https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/03/hedges-the-greatest-evil-is-war-excerpt-details-the-horrors-of-a-post-war-life/ | Source: Scheerpost
[10:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Hedges: 'The Greatest Evil is War' Excerpt Details the Horrors of a Post-War Life - scheerpost.com
[10:41]	TR News	Hurricane https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/03/hurricane-ian-was-a-powerful-storm-real-estate-developers-made-it-a-catastrophe/ | Source: Scheerpost
[10:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Hurricane Ian Was a Powerful Storm. Real Estate Developers Made It a Catastrophe - scheerpost.com
[10:43]	TR News	"After a week of striking, Jared Ware shares how prison authorities have tried to thwart inmates' protests" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/03/prison-strike-spreads-in-alabama-as-incarcerated-individuals-demand-doj-protect-their-human-rights/ | Source: Scheerpost
[10:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Prison Strike Spreads in Alabama as Incarcerated Individuals Demand DOJ Protect Their Human Rights - scheerpost.com
[10:43]	TR News	Dobbs https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/03/dobbs-is-a-recipe-for-disaster-in-the-military/ | Source: Scheerpost
[10:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Dobbs Is a Recipe for Disaster in the Military - scheerpost.com
[10:48]	TR News	"The secretary of state says it's an opportunity to remove Europe's dependency on Russian energy." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/03/blinken-says-nord-stream-sabotage-is-a-tremendous-opportunity/ | Source: Scheerpost
[10:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Blinken Says Nord Stream Sabotage Is a 'Tremendous Opportunity' - scheerpost.com
[10:48]	TR News	"Whatever happened to the Novel of Ideas?" https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/pankaj-mishra-run-hide/ | Source: The Nation
[10:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Pankaj Mishras Novel of Intellectuals and Influencers | The Nation
[10:48]	TR News	Lady Justice https://www.thenation.com/article/society/lady-justice/ | Source: The Nation
[10:48]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Lady Justice | The Nation
[10:58]	TR News	Links 04/10/2022: Tor Project Board and Conflicts of Interest, More Politics | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/tor-onflicts-of-interest/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/04/tor-onflicts-of-interest/
[10:58]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 04/10/2022: Tor Project Board and Conflicts of Interest, More Politics | Techrights
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[11:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding and Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[11:00]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding and Programming Leftovers
[11:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding and Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[11:00]	TR News	"Fascism is a rich-gets-richer project that was created to divert energy from the class vs class struggle and instead getting the classes to cooperate vs some nebulous other." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fascism
[11:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[11:00]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's leftovers
[11:09]	TR News	 (NEW): Alibaba T-Head TH1520 RISC-V processor to power the ROMA laptop http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Alibaba_T_Head_TH1520_RISC_V_processor_to_power_the_ROMA_laptop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Alibaba_T_Head_TH1520_RISC_V_processor_to_power_the_ROMA_laptop.gmi 
[11:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Alibaba T-Head TH1520 RISC-V processor to power the ROMA laptop
[11:12]	TR News	Linux Foundation lied last week about being global, showing misleading charts. Over 90% of the money is spent in the US.
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[11:16]	TR News	 (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Kotlin Static Site Generators http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Kotlin_Static_Site_Generators.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Kotlin_Static_Site_Generators.gmi 
[11:16]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Kotlin Static Site Generators
[11:16]	TR News	Jim Zemlin keeps saying "intellectual property"
[11:19]	TR News	Linux Foundation's LFX seems to be proprietary software. Needs to be verified though.
[11:21]	TR News	Recently, Jim Zemlin did not even give talks. His keynotes were just him reading a script. Ridiculous.
[11:23]	TR News	Zemlin now spread the "supply chain" FUD of Microsoft proxies. To make "Open Source", not NSA and its tentacles (like Microsoft) seem like the real disk, inc. back doors.
[11:27]	TR News	Zemlin also bags about Microsoft working with Linux Foundation on "trust" (while Microsoft works for the NSA, a back doors booster)
[11:28]	TR News	Zemlin became like a Microsoft salesperson (like his wife, who is technically a fraud). He even uses the same talking points, e.g. "log4j" (even a year after this was patched)
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[11:30]	TR News	Zemlin also perpetuates the lie that in proprietary software there are good security practices but the same is untrue in "Open Source"; he's in effect repeating Microsoft lies
[11:33]	TR News	Zemlin says "Open Source movement", but it's not a movement but a corporate push to attack the movement (Free software) or what he dubs "collective innovation"
[11:33]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[11:33]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[11:36]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/irc-log-031022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/04/irc-log-031022/
[11:36]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 03, 2022 | Techrights
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[11:39]	TR News	LF events became like a joke. Online, the whole thing is just people reading scripts, even the presenter, coordinator. It's like people who are able to speak, just read.
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[12:35]	TR News	Linux Foundation Events Now Run by Linuxs Biggest Foe | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/microsoft-controls-linux-foundation-using-money/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/04/microsoft-controls-linux-foundation-using-money/
[12:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Events Now Run by Linuxs Biggest Foe | Techrights
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[13:06]	TR News	Abandoned-IRC is anything but abandoned. Over 500 users online, on average. https://netsplit.de/networks/Abandoned-IRC/
[13:06]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-netsplit.de | NO TITLE
[13:07]	TR News	WorldIRC has survived for about 25 years already. Well done. https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=WorldIRC
[13:07]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-netsplit.de | NO TITLE
[13:11]	TR News	Linux Foundation is trying to change its pitch in response to posts that expose its hypocrisy; for instance, they now openly admit Linux is just a little project in the corner. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation
[13:11]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights
[13:13]	TR News	"Total Coronavirus Cases in New Zealand" in this page shows what happens when you 'open up' BEFORE you even have a potent solution to COVID-19. 3k deaths in a small island. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/
[13:13]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.worldometers.info | New Zealand COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
[13:17]	TR News	NZ is at 90% COVID-19 vaccine uptake for ages 12+. https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-vaccine-data and when opening up COVID-19 spreads to millions, killing thousands. Hardly an efficacy success story. Try the same with polio. We need more vaccine development (and clinical trials), not more patents and higher prices.
[13:17]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.health.govt.nz | COVID-19: Vaccine data | Ministry of Health NZ
[13:21]	TR News	NZ, once a role model on COVID-19, now has a higher mortality rates overall than another island, Iceland. Those Islands are valuable as reference points to study COVID-19 mitigation approaches in insulation/isolation.
[13:23]	TR News	And now in NZ they'll have millions with "LONG COVID(-19)" and lifelong conditions associated with infection, based on extensive research published just a month ago. They have a health service, so the high cost will be long-term and collective.
[13:39]	TR News	 (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Today_in_Techrights.gmi 
[13:39]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[13:40]	TR News	"This is intended to be more of a small blog rather than anything I actually write super long on. Short diary for my day. Tried to use gemlog blue or whatever, but this seems nicer. Dunno." gemini://vincent.smol.pub/10032022
[13:41]	TR News	Compaq Presario 5150 gemini://spoony.smol.pub/compaq-presario-5150
[13:41]	TR News	An Antique Epoch of Human History gemini://thurk.org/blog/576.gmi
[13:43]	TR News	2150 gemini capsules detected as online by Lupa (I know many more than Lupa cannot see, maybe real number is 3,000-4,000) gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[13:44]	TR News	List of capsules (as per Lupa) gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/lupa-capsules.txt
[13:46]	TR News	Pfizer CEO infected with COVID-19. Again. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3ceurG7P89c
[13:46]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Vaccination status - Invidious
[13:49]	TR News	New Zealand and Australia deaths rates for COVID-19 the same almost (less than 5% margin), but NZ had a long head start with vaccination before the spread. Demography similar, so it's not entirely clear if mass vaccination is anywhere near as effective as distance, mask, insulation. We need independent efficacy studies, not marketing junk from salespeople.
[13:51]	TR News	In the UK, 90% of those who die of COVID-19 are vaccinated with COVID-19 products, based on the official data. Efficacy can't be THAT good. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/ons-vaccine-data/
[13:51]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines
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[13:52]	TR News	COVID minimisers: people who think it's OK to mingle while COVID-19 is prevalent. Examples: British government. COVIDiots: people who say "the pandemic is over" when in fact it is rebounding if not surging. In the UK, it's worse now than same time 1 year ago and 2 years ago.
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[15:03]	TR News	Just because someone is a racist doesn't mean that everything that someone says is false. Just because someone is an antiracist doesn't mean that everything that someone says is true.
[15:07]	TR News	The Linux Foundation expresses gratitude, upfront, to only one company: Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/microsoft-controls-linux-foundation-using-money/
[15:09]	TR News	iTWire - Government should also share blame for Optus fiasco: Budde https://itwire.com/security/government-should-also-share-blame-for-optus-fiasco-budde.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/government-should-also-share-blame-for-optus-fiasco-budde.html
[15:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-iTWire - Government should also share blame for Optus fiasco: Budde
[15:10]	TR News	Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/04/khadas-edge2-review-with-android-12/
[15:10]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cnx-software.com | Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 - CNX Software
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[15:11]	TR News	GNU Units version 2.22 (stable) released on 5 September 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Units
[15:11]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-directory.fsf.org | Units - Free Software Directory
[15:12]	TR News	GNU Gama version 2.23 (stable) released on 12 September 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gama background: https://www.gnu.org/software/gama/
[15:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-directory.fsf.org | Gama - Free Software Directory
[15:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.gnu.org | GNU Gama
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[15:16]	TR News	Optus announced the breach on 22 September. However, only last evening did the company specify the numbers affected, with a total of 2.1 million taking a hit.
[15:16]	TR News	FBI sting operations to create more Russophobia? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/nsa-employee-charged-with-espionage.html
[15:16]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-NSA Employee Charged with Espionage - Schneier on Security
[15:18]	TR News	The White House just unveiled a new "Hey Hi" Bill of Rights https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/04/1060600/white-house-ai-bill-of-rights/ while MIT "Hey Hi" Lab takes bribes from Bill Gates and his underage sex trafficking buddy, Jeffrey Epstein
[15:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.technologyreview.com | The White House just moved to hold AI more accountable | MIT Technology Review
[15:19]	TR News	 (NEW): VideoLAN has issued a legal notice to DoT and MeitY for banning their website in India http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/VideoLAN_has_issued_a_legal_notice_to_DoT_and_MeitY_for_banning.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/VideoLAN_has_issued_a_legal_notice_to_DoT_and_MeitY_for_banning.gmi 
[15:19]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines VideoLAN has issued a legal notice to DoT and MeitY for banning their website in India
[15:24]	TR News	SpellBinding: CEMOUTP Wordo: VIRAL gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-04.gmi
[15:43]	TR News	Child exploitation/slavery at Gulag Deutschland (aka 'FSF'E) https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20221004-01.en.html see http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/
[15:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-fsfe.org | Youth Hacking 4 Freedom Winners - FSFE
[15:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisations Name) | Techrights
[15:44]	TR News	Canonical today: "We open source" but we PROMOTE the PROPRIETARY software of MICROSOFT https://ubuntu.com//blog/3-step-guide-to-start-hacktoberfest
[15:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-3 step guide to start Hacktoberfest | Ubuntu
[15:45]	TR News	Kubeflow 1.6 on Kubernetes 1.23 and beyond | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/kubeflow-on-kubernetes-1-23 Source: Ubuntubuzz | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/kubeflow-on-kubernetes-1-23
[15:45]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Kubeflow 1.6 on Kubernetes 1.23 and beyond | Ubuntu
[15:47]	TR News	Canonical advertises Microsoft Github, which is proprietary (it attacks both Git and "Open Source", it's an occupation, siege) https://ubuntu.com//blog/3-step-guide-to-start-hacktoberfest
[15:49]	TR News	Some videos of 'Linux' Foundation receive just as many views as Spamnil. They're both using Google's YouTube to FAKE their importance with clickfraud though. The view count is so low that there's no actual incentive to produce them, but it's a scam.
[15:54]	TR News	CoCs are about control, not safety. I never heard of someone getting killed or mained at a FOSS event.
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[16:12]	TR News	Better to rewrite in a syntax not controlled by the foremost enemy of Linux https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-powershell/
[16:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-pimylifeup.com | How to Install PowerShell on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up
[16:15]	TR News	FCC Cracking Down on Robocalls With a Threat to Voice Service Providers - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/fcc-cracking-down-on-robocalls-voice-service-providers/ Source: Make Tech Easier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/fcc-cracking-down-on-robocalls-voice-service-providers/
[16:15]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.maketecheasier.com | FCC Cracking Down on Robocalls With a Threat to Voice Service Providers - Make Tech Easier
[16:21]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[16:21]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's howtos
[16:21]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[16:21]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[16:31]	TR News	Iran: Alarm over mass arrests of human rights defenders amidst protests - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/iran-mass-arrests-hrds/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/iran-mass-arrests-hrds/
[16:31]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.accessnow.org | Iran: Alarm over mass arrests of human rights defenders amidst protests - Access Now
[16:34]	TR News	"Among the loveliest illuminations of Bartholomaeus Anglicus' encyclopedia, Evrard d'Espinque's illuminations use a T-O pattern to trace the Great Chain of Being." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/despinque-anglicus-illuminations/
[16:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-publicdomainreview.org | Evrard d'Espinques Illuminations of *De Proprietatibus Rerum* (ca. 1480) The Public Domain Review
[16:37]	TR News	mrcal 2.2 released http://notes.secretsauce.net/notes/2022/10/04_mrcal-22-released.html Source: Stefano Marinelli | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//notes.secretsauce.net/notes/2022/10/04_mrcal-22-released.html
[16:37]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-notes.secretsauce.net | mrcal 2.2 released
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[16:55]	TR News	iTWire - Telstra gets in on data leak action, staff data posted online https://itwire.com/security/telstra-gets-in-on-data-leak-action,-staff-data-posted-online.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/telstra-gets-in-on-data-leak-action,-staff-data-posted-online.html
[16:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-iTWire - Telstra gets in on data leak action, staff data posted online
[16:55]	TR News	Windows or Mac? I Dislike One, But Hate The Other! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Xg6LdzwK6b4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Xg6LdzwK6b4
[16:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Windows or Mac? I Dislike One, But Hate The Other! - Invidious
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[17:01]	TR News	Podcast: Frederic Branczyk on Continuous Profiling Leveraging eBPF https://www.infoq.com/podcasts/continuous-profiling-leveraging-eBPF/
[17:01]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.infoq.com | Frederic Branczyk on Continuous Profiling Leveraging eBPF
[17:01]	TR News	"This book was so bad. A more sensible person than I would have given up after the first hundred pages, but I was too stubborn. The stubbornness did not pay off." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/1-59780-099-6.html
[17:01]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.eyrie.org | Review: The Dragon Never Sleeps by Glen Cook
[17:03]	TR News	'FSF'E pretends "Free Software in France gains attention" because of itself https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202210.en.html
[17:03]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-fsfe.org | Free Software in France +++ Hackerspace in Albania +++ Job - FSFE
[17:05]	TR News	'FSF'E conditions you to think any good news from Europe regarding Free software is THANKS to itself. This is propaganda; they try to raise money this way, while pretending to be "like FSF"... "but for European donors" (it's a lie)
[17:11]	TR News	 (NEW): Best Command Line BitTorrent Clients for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Best_Command_Line_BitTorrent_Clients_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Best_Command_Line_BitTorrent_Clients_for_Linux.gmi 
[17:11]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Best Command Line BitTorrent Clients for Linux
[17:18]	TR News	Larabel has a large pole up his spine and it's run by the strings of Nazi IBM: "The key takeaways from the materials provided in advance by IBM ahead of today's announcements" https://www.phoronix.com/news/IBM-Red-Hat-Storage
[17:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-IBM Does A "Quasi-Acquisition" Of Red Hat Storage - Phoronix
[17:19]	TR News	Larabel also says "IP" instead of software patents. He speaks the bully's language.
[17:22]	TR News	 (NEW): Stellarium 1.0 Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Stellarium_1_0_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Stellarium_1_0_Released.gmi 
[17:22]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Stellarium 1.0 Released
[17:24]	TR News	PostgreSQL 15 RC 1 Released! (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/PostgreSQL_15_RC_1_Released.shtml
[17:24]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines PostgreSQL 15 RC 1 Released! (UPDATED)
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[20:24]	TR News	 (NEW): Collabora Announces NVK, a New Open-Source Vulkan Driver for NVIDIA Hardware in Mesa http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Collabora_Announces_NVK_a_New_Open_Source_Vulkan_Driver.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Collabora_Announces_NVK_a_New_Open_Source_Vulkan_Driver.gmi 
[20:24]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Collabora Announces NVK, a New Open-Source Vulkan Driver for NVIDIA Hardware in Mesa
[20:32]	TR News	Massive regression: Ubuntu with mass surveillance, inc. mouse tracking and keylogging by Amazon and American spy agencies. https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/10/amazon-workspaces-core-ubuntu/
[20:32]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.infoq.com | AWS Introduces Amazon Workspaces Core and Support for Ubuntu Desktops on Amazon Workspaces
[20:33]	TR News	 (NEW): You thought you bought software all you bought was a lie http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/You_thought_you_bought_software_all_you_bought_was_a_lie.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/You_thought_you_bought_software_all_you_bought_was_a_lie.gmi 
[20:33]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines You thought you bought software all you bought was a lie
[20:34]	TR News	"Interesting FOSS program time! ActivityWatch[1] is a time monitoring FOSS program. Compared to alternatives, it's fully FOSS, privacy-friendly and stores data locally. I thought it'd help me see how I spend my computer time, thus would prove helpful in organizing it. If you're on Android it'll auto import your statistics from the OS." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/activitywatch.gmi
[20:34]	TR News	"On the Small Web we tend to be mindful of our computer usage and try to not get caught in the whirlwind of the WWW, so a helpful utility like ActivityWatch fits right in. I find it useful for keeping myself informed in regards to my screen time, not only that you can see what specific programs you use and you can group them based on various categories." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/activitywatch.gmi
[20:35]	TR News	"I know I don't post very often and I don't really participate in the gemini community. I'm not a very extroverted person and I became really depressed since the russian invasion of Ukraine, although my life hasn't changed that much. I wasn't hit by inflation that hard (yet) and I can still pay my bills." gemini://foobucket.xyz/gemlog/2022-10-04-A_rare_update.gmi
[20:36]	TR News	"OpenWeather forecasted clear skies in the early morning hours, so I decided to get up about 2am AKDT and do some star gazing. When I got outside about 2:30am, there was some mild green Aurora swirls." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221004-0.gmi
[20:37]	TR News	My open-source machine learning toolbox gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/machine-learning-toolbox.gmi
[20:37]	TR News	"At Lumina[1] (the statup I work), we switched our UI stack from Electron to Qt. Both are extremely popular and mature technologies, both had their pros and cons. But we ended up migrating by the end of 2021. I think the story is interesting and worth sharing. Hence this post." gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/10-04-the-easy-decision-to-more-from-electron-to-qt-at-lumina.gmi
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[20:40]	TR News	Ewwww. https://medevel.com/next-js-desktop-apps/
[20:40]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-medevel.com | Build Desktop Application with Next.js and Electron using Nextron
[20:41]	TR News	 (NEW): Unix Basics It Pays To Know http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Unix_Basics_It_Pays_To_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Unix_Basics_It_Pays_To_Know.gmi 
[20:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Unix Basics It Pays To Know
[20:42]	TR News	IBM is extinguishing, not distinguishing, Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-storage-strategy-update
[20:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Storage strategy update
[20:43]	TR News	Put your CPU to work with GNU Parallel | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/gnu-parallel Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/gnu-parallel
[20:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.redhat.com | Put your CPU to work with GNU Parallel | Enable Sysadmin
[20:43]	TR News	ICBM Red Hat bragging about buzzwords https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/edge-computing-manufacturing
[20:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-enterprisersproject.com | Edge computing: 5 use cases for manufacturing | The Enterprisers Project
[20:44]	TR News	ICBM: we fire loads of skilled people, then moan about "skills gaps across many sectors" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/it-interview-questions-prep
[20:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-enterprisersproject.com | IT talent: 3 interview questions to prep for (and how to respond) | The Enterprisers Project
[20:45]	TR News	ICBM outsourcing Fedora to India, just like it did ICBM itself (to lower operating costs) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-hiring-a-software-engineer/
[20:45]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | CPE hiring a software engineer Fedora Community Blog
[20:47]	TR News	Under IBM, Fedora does not even care about the needs of Indian users. http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
[20:47]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
[20:52]	TR News	Rahul's blog has been awful for about a month: Apple, Microsoft, and HEY HI hype, playing into this narrative that "HEY HI" is something new https://tecadmin.net/artificial-intelligence-how-it-will-change-the-future/
[20:53]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-tecadmin.net | Artificial Intelligence: How It Will Change The Future TecAdmin
[20:55]	TR News	Java News Roundup: BellSoft Introduces Alpaquita Linux, GlassFish, WildFly, Hibernate, Tomcat https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/10/java-news-roundup-sep26-2022/ Source: InfoQ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.infoq.com/news/2022/10/java-news-roundup-sep26-2022/
[20:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.infoq.com | Java News Roundup: BellSoft Introduces Alpaquita Linux, GlassFish, WildFly, Hibernate, Tomcat
[20:55]	TR News	[GIT PULL] Btrfs updates for 6.1 - David Sterba https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1664798047.git.dsterba@suse.com/ Source: SUSE | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1664798047.git.dsterba@suse.com/
[20:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] Btrfs updates for 6.1 - David Sterba
[20:56]	TR News	[GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.1 - Herbert Xu https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yzv0wXi4Uu2WND37@gondor.apana.org.au/
[20:56]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.1 - Herbert Xu
[20:56]	TR News	[GIT PULL] random number generator updates for 6.1-rc1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003174431.1189919-1-Jason@zx2c4.com/
[20:56]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] random number generator updates for 6.1-rc1 - Jason A. Donenfeld
[20:57]	TR News	AMD-sponsored site: AMD DEFECTS are... GOOD news!!! https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-zen4-spectrev2
[20:57]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Disabling Spectre V2 Mitigations Is What Can Impair AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Performance - Phoronix
[20:58]	TR News	 (NEW): Linux 5.19.13 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Linux_5_19_13.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Linux_5_19_13.gmi 
[20:58]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Linux 5.19.13
[20:59]	TR News	 (NEW): The first prototype of Adaptable Linux Platform is Live! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/The_first_prototype_of_Adaptable_Linux_Platform_is_Live.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/The_first_prototype_of_Adaptable_Linux_Platform_is_Live.gmi 
[20:59]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines The first prototype of Adaptable Linux Platform is Live!
[20:59]	TR News	 (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM.gmi 
[20:59]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM
● Oct 04
[21:02]	TR News	"In this video, I am going to show how to install TUXEDO OS 1" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XL-QRdr97VI
[21:02]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | How to install TUXEDO OS 1 - Invidious
[21:03]	TR News	Fani Partsafyllidou and Alexander Sander advertise youth exploitation/slavery by Gulag Deutschland https://www.fosslife.org/fsfe-announces-youth-hacking-4-freedom-winners http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/
[21:03]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.fosslife.org | FSFE Announces Youth Hacking 4 Freedom Winners
[21:03]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisations Name) | Techrights
[21:04]	TR News	New Linux Kernel (It's Starting To Get Rusty) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ShpSdXQCPU4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ShpSdXQCPU4
[21:04]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | New Linux Kernel (It's Starting To Get Rusty) - Invidious
[21:06]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi 
[21:06]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[21:06]	TR News	 (NEW): Videos: TUXEDO OS, 6.x of Linux, eBPF, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Videos_TUXEDO_OS_6_x_of_Linux_eBPF_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Videos_TUXEDO_OS_6_x_of_Linux_eBPF_and_More.gmi 
[21:06]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Videos: TUXEDO OS, 6.x of Linux, eBPF, and More
[21:10]	TR News	 (NEW): FSFE Updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/FSFE_Updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/FSFE_Updates.gmi 
[21:10]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines FSFE Updates
[21:13]	TR News	Canonical still pretends it's not control by Mark Shuttleworth (MS) and Microsoft. Guess who has the last word... not this "Community" Council (optics) https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/10/04/reminder-call-for-ubuntu-community-council-nominations/
[21:13]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Reminder: Call for Ubuntu Community Council Nominations
[21:18]	TR News	"Buy the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5 with Ubuntu Linux ... If you dont want to do any of the things above and youd rather avoid Windows completely, you can buy the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5 with Ubuntu Linux installed out of the box" https://www.xda-developers.com/can-i-run-ubuntu-linux-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-extreme-gen-5/
[21:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.xda-developers.com | Can I run Ubuntu Linux on the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5?
[21:18]	TR News	 (NEW): 5 Best Python IDE(s) and Code Editor(s) - Top List of 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/5_Best_Python_IDE_s_and_Code_Editor_s_Top_List_of_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/5_Best_Python_IDE_s_and_Code_Editor_s_Top_List_of_2022.gmi 
[21:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines 5 Best Python IDE(s) and Code Editor(s) - Top List of 2022
[21:18]	TR News	 (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Community Council, AWS, Hacktoberfest, and Kubeflow http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Canonical_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Community_Council_AWS_Hacktoberfest_and.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Canonical_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Community_Council_AWS_Hacktoberfest_and.gmi 
[21:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Community Council, AWS, Hacktoberfest, and Kubeflow
[21:23]	TR News	 (NEW): Salix OS - A Powerful and Simple Slackware Distro http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Salix_OS_A_Powerful_and_Simple_Slackware_Distro.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Salix_OS_A_Powerful_and_Simple_Slackware_Distro.gmi 
[21:23]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Salix OS - A Powerful and Simple Slackware Distro
[21:23]	TR News	 (NEW): Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Khadas_Edge2_review_with_Android_12.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Khadas_Edge2_review_with_Android_12.gmi 
[21:23]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12
[21:28]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[21:28]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[21:28]	TR News	Introducing NVK http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Collabora_Announces_NVK_a_New_Open_Source_Vulkan_Driver.shtml
[21:28]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Collabora Announces NVK, a New Open-Source Vulkan Driver for NVIDIA Hardware in Mesa
[21:36]	TR News	Russia Tightening Screws on War Coverage https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-tightening-screws-on-war-coverage-/6771300.html "A violation of the latter carries a 15-year prison sentence."
[21:36]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.voanews.com | Russia Tightening Screws on War Coverage
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[21:44]	TR News	 (NEW): System76's COSMIC Desktop Ditched GTK in Favor of Iced http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/System76_s_COSMIC_Desktop_Ditched_GTK_in_Favor_of_Iced.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/System76_s_COSMIC_Desktop_Ditched_GTK_in_Favor_of_Iced.gmi 
[21:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines System76's COSMIC Desktop Ditched GTK in Favor of Iced
[21:45]	TR News	 (NEW): What Is PureOS? A Look at Purism's OS for Laptops and Phones http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/What_Is_PureOS_A_Look_at_Purism_s_OS_for_Laptops_and_Phones.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/What_Is_PureOS_A_Look_at_Purism_s_OS_for_Laptops_and_Phones.gmi 
[21:45]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines What Is PureOS? A Look at Purism's OS for Laptops and Phones
[21:45]	TR News	 (NEW): WordPress 6.1 Beta 3 Now Available http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/WordPress_6_1_Beta_3_Now_Available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/WordPress_6_1_Beta_3_Now_Available.gmi 
[21:45]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines WordPress 6.1 Beta 3 Now Available
[21:45]	TR News	 (NEW): OpenSSH 9.1 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/OpenSSH_9_1_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/OpenSSH_9_1_released.gmi 
[21:45]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines OpenSSH 9.1 released
[21:46]	TR News	OMG! Intel DEFECTS: "After looking at some logs we do end up with potentially bogus panel power sequencing delays, which may harm the LCD panel. Greg, I recommend immediate revert of this stuff, and new stable release ASAP. Plus a recommendation that no one using laptops with Intel GPUs run 5.19.12." https://lore.kernel.org/all/YzwooNdMECzuI5+h@intel.com/
[21:46]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | Re: Regression on 5.19.12, display flickering on Framework laptop - Ville Syrjl
[21:47]	TR News	"How the hell did Arch let this kernel get to stable without testing it on Intel hardware? It's the first time Arch broke my install with an update and it seems oddly obvious of a bug." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1350270-intel-laptop-users-should-avoid-linux-5-19-12-to-avoid-potentially-damaging-the-display
[21:47]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Intel Laptop Users Should Avoid Linux 5.19.12 To Avoid Potentially Damaging The Display - Phoronix Forums
[21:51]	TR News	Spamnil spamming for Microsoft again today. Linux Foundation is a fraud.
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[21:55]	TR News	Fatdog64 813, based on LFS, is out http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/
[21:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-distro.ibiblio.org | Fatdog64 Linux
[21:56]	TR News	 (NEW): #HowTo Make Your First Linux App With Flutter http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/How_to_Make_Your_First_Linux_App_With_Flutter.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/How_to_Make_Your_First_Linux_App_With_Flutter.gmi 
[21:56]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines How to Make Your First Linux App With Flutter
[21:56]	TR News	 (NEW): AMD Ryzen 7000 gives Windows users the perfect reason to move to Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/AMD_Ryzen_7000_gives_Windows_users_the_perfect_reason_to_move_t.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/AMD_Ryzen_7000_gives_Windows_users_the_perfect_reason_to_move_t.gmi 
[21:56]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines AMD Ryzen 7000 gives Windows users the perfect reason to move to Linux
● Oct 04
[22:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Beware: Linux kernel 5.19.12 could damage your Intel laptop display, literally http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Beware_Linux_kernel_5_19_12_could_damage_your_Intel_laptop_disp.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Beware_Linux_kernel_5_19_12_could_damage_your_Intel_laptop_disp.gmi 
[22:00]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Beware: Linux kernel 5.19.12 could damage your Intel laptop display, literally
[22:01]	TR News	Sean Michael Kerner openwashing posting spam for Mark Zuckerface https://venturebeat.com/ai/meta-seeks-to-accelerate-ai-inference-with-open-source-aitemplate/
[22:01]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Meta seeks to accelerate AI inference with open-source AITemplate | VentureBeat
[22:02]	TR News	Burning the planet inside the datacentre for useless stuff and occasional violations of human rights https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/04/different-gpu-horses-for-different-datacenter-courses/
[22:02]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nextplatform.com | Different GPU Horses For Different Datacenter Courses
[22:03]	TR News	"To exploit this vulnerability, a threat actor would need physical or network access to the system and would need to bypass any additional security controls." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsma-22-277-01
[22:03]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cisa.gov | BD Totalys MultiProcessor | CISA
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[22:09]	TR News	Microsoft CISA tries to blame "open source" for merely being used to construct things that exploit holes/back doors in proprietary stuff https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/04/impacket-and-exfiltration-tool-used-steal-sensitive-information http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/
[22:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cisa.gov | Impacket and Exfiltration Tool Used to Steal Sensitive Information from Defense Industrial Base Organization | CISA
[22:09]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights
[22:11]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO: "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an Active Directory user to execute validated actions without providing a valid password." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-277-01
[22:11]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cisa.gov | Johnson Controls Metasys ADX Server | CISA
[22:12]	TR News	"Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities could allow an attacker to perform malicious command injection, trick a valid user into downloading malicious software onto their computer. Successful exploitation may also allow an attacker to pose as a legitimate user." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-277-02
[22:12]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cisa.gov | Hitachi Energy Modular Switchgear Monitoring (MSM) | CISA
[22:17]	TR News	"The affected product does not properly validate user-supplied data. If a user opens a maliciously formed FNT file, then an attacker could execute arbitrary code within the current process by accessing an uninitialized pointer, leading to an out-of-bounds memory read." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-277-03
[22:17]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cisa.gov | Horner Automation Cscape | CISA
[22:18]	TR News	Some of these are specific to Microsoft crap https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/04/cisa-releases-five-industrial-control-systems-advisories
[22:18]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cisa.gov | CISA Releases Five Industrial Control Systems Advisories | CISA
[22:19]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO: "The affected product is vulnerable to an Out-of-Bounds Write in CX-P.exe, which may allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-277-04
[22:19]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cisa.gov | OMRON CX-Programmer | CISA
[22:23]	TR News	"Git is one of those tools that I have been using for the past 4-5 years on a daily basis, very very good tool. Below I share some git commands and aliases ...etc, that I've collected over the years." https://ahmadsamir.github.io/posts/13-git.html
[22:23]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ahmadsamir.github.io | Git
[22:25]	TR News	New UN telecoms chief urges governments to keep the internet on https://www.politico.eu/article/new-un-telecoms-chief-doreen-bogdan-martin-urge-governments-keep-internet-on/ so American corporations can meddle and interfere with your domestic affairs ;-)
[22:25]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.politico.eu | New UN telecoms chief urges governments to keep the internet on POLITICO
[22:26]	TR News	 (NEW): Most Popular Java IDEs for Linux Developers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Most_Popular_Java_IDE_s_for_Linux_Developers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Most_Popular_Java_IDE_s_for_Linux_Developers.gmi 
[22:26]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Most Popular Java IDEs for Linux Developers
[22:28]	TR News	A Virtual Boost in VR Rendering Performance with Synchronous Space Warp https://developer.qualcomm.com/blog/virtual-boost-vr-rendering-performance-synchronous-space-warp
[22:28]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-developer.qualcomm.com | A Virtual Boost in VR Rendering Performance with Synchronous Space Warp - Qualcomm Developer Network
[22:32]	TR News	OpenZFS 2.1.6 released but outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software in the NSA's pocket, so it cannot be trusted, the software patents notwithstanding....
[22:34]	TR News	openzfs web site has NO news in it; it does, however, have a large "Code of Conduct" section https://openzfs.org/wiki/Main_Page
[22:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-openzfs.org | OpenZFS
[22:35]	TR News	 (NEW): CISA Spreads FUD About "Open Source" While Microsoft is the Problem http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/microsoft_cisa.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/microsoft_cisa.gmi 
[22:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines CISA Spreads FUD About "Open Source" While Microsoft is the Problem
[22:35]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[22:35]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[22:40]	TR News	Updated today: "URL is an Emacs Lisp library for parsing URIs and retrieving the resources to which they refer. (The library is so-named for historical reasons; nowadays, the URI terminology is regarded as the more general one, and URL is technically obsolete despite its widespread vernacular usage.)" https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Url
[22:40]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-directory.fsf.org | Url - Free Software Directory
[22:41]	TR News	Linux Today relays Microsoft lies and FUD against "Open Source" https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/zinc-hackers-leverage-open-source-software/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/
[22:41]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.linuxtoday.com | ZINC Hackers Leverage Open-source Software to Lure IT Pros
[22:44]	TR News	 (NEW): Kubernetes: Introducing Kueue http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Kubernetes_Introducing_Kueue.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Kubernetes_Introducing_Kueue.gmi 
[22:44]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Kubernetes: Introducing Kueue
[22:45]	TR News	[GIT PULL] EDAC updates for v6.1 - Borislav Petkov https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzvqtD2dVN9YPI1K@zn.tnic/ Source: SUSE | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzvqtD2dVN9YPI1K@zn.tnic/
[22:45]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] EDAC updates for v6.1 - Borislav Petkov
[22:46]	TR News	[RFC UKL 00/10] Unikernel Linux (UKL) - Ali Raza https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003222133.20948-1-aliraza@bu.edu/ Source: bu.edu | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003222133.20948-1-aliraza@bu.edu/
[22:46]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | [RFC UKL 00/10] Unikernel Linux (UKL) - Ali Raza
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[22:52]	TR News	 (NEW): 5 new improvements in Apache ShardingSphere http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/5_new_improvements_in_Apache_ShardingSphere.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/5_new_improvements_in_Apache_ShardingSphere.gmi 
[22:52]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines 5 new improvements in Apache ShardingSphere
[22:54]	TR News	Learn the OSI model in 5 minutes | https://opensource.com/article/22/10/osi-model-network-communications Source: Open Source dot com | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/10/osi-model-network-communications
[22:54]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Learn the OSI model in 5 minutes | Opensource.com
[22:55]	TR News	Red Hat talking about a yuppie Utopia while working for IBM, which implemented genocide for profit https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/designing-inclusion-representational-vs-aspirational-personas
[22:55]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.redhat.com | Designing for inclusion: Representational vs. aspirational personas
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[22:56]	TR News	Red Hat is promoting Microsoft proprietary software and mass surveillance, in effect helping those who attack GNU/Linux and the GPL https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-deploy-azure-red-hat-openshift
[22:56]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.redhat.com | How to deploy Azure Red Hat OpenShift
[22:57]	TR News	When a company is reduced to marketing and not substance https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/its-customer-experience-cx-day-how-red-hat-listening-and-learning-you
[22:57]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.redhat.com | Its Customer Experience (CX) Day! How Red Hat is listening and learning from you
[22:58]	TR News	Vendor lockin spun as "Enable Sysadmin" https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/top-sysadmin-articles-september-2022 Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/top-sysadmin-articles-september-2022
[22:58]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.redhat.com | Automating network testing, getting started with Ansible, and other sysadmin tips | Enable Sysadmin
● Oct 04
[23:02]	TR News	Red Hat's site became an inaccessible proprietary JS mess. To make matters worse, they BLOCK many user agents, including wget it seems... Red Hat is evil.
[23:05]	TR News	- The era of Micro PCs - will ARM based SoCs finally (Apples aside) be fast enough for Desktop Workstation and Server workloads? | dwaves.de https://dwaves.de/2022/10/04/the-era-of-micro-pcs-will-arm-based-socs-finally-apples-aside-be-fast-enough-for-desktop-workstation-and-server-workloads/ Source: dwaves.de
[23:05]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- The era of Micro PCs will ARM based SoCs finally (Apples aside) be fast enough for Desktop Workstation and Server workloads? | dwaves.de
[23:08]	TR News	 (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Red_Hat_Leeftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Red_Hat_Leeftovers.gmi 
[23:08]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Red Hat Leftovers
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[23:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.2.gmi 
[23:14]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's howtos
[23:15]	TR News	Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Khadas_Edge2_review_with_Android_12.shtml
[23:15]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 (UPDATED)
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[23:19]	TR News	[GIT PULL] Thermal control updates for v6.1-rc1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAJZ5v0iD8M=qYc32EY96vYSmjTaEz=M357PVvATSQvryrzh0Gw@mail.gmail.com/
[23:19]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] Thermal control updates for v6.1-rc1 - Rafael J. Wysocki
[23:20]	TR News	 (NEW): Getting Started With Portainer: A GUI Manager for Docker on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Getting_Started_With_Portainer_A_GUI_Manager_for_Docker_on_Linu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Getting_Started_With_Portainer_A_GUI_Manager_for_Docker_on_Linu.gmi 
[23:20]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Getting Started With Portainer: A GUI Manager for Docker on Linux
[23:21]	TR News	Debian Linux accepts proprietary firmware in major policy change http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Debian_Results_for_non_free_firmware.shtml
[23:21]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Debian: Results for non-free firmware (UPDATED)
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[23:25]	TR News	Judging by the rise of COVID-19 in the UK, this will be the third unhappy xmas in a row
[23:28]	TR News	New example of Amazon turning the WWW into a spamfarm https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/kindle-paperwhite-signature-edition/
[23:28]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.maketecheasier.com | Save $55 on a Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition - Make Tech Easier
[23:33]	TR News	iTWire - European Parliament approves move for USB-C as single charging port https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/european-parliament-approves-move-for-usb-c-as-single-charging-port.html Source: IT Wire/Sam Varghese | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/technology-regulation/european-parliament-approves-move-for-usb-c-as-single-charging-port.html
[23:33]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-iTWire - European Parliament approves move for USB-C as single charging port
[23:34]	TR News	 (NEW): Ubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through (and Ubuntu MATE 22.10 Beta Too) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Ubuntu_22_10_Beta_Run_Through_and_Ubuntu_MATE_22_10_Beta_Too.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Ubuntu_22_10_Beta_Run_Through_and_Ubuntu_MATE_22_10_Beta_Too.gmi 
[23:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through (and Ubuntu MATE 22.10 Beta Too)
[23:34]	TR News	 (NEW): Copyright Licenses Are Key When Including Software in Standards http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Copyright_Licenses_Are_Key_When_Including_Software_in_Standards.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Copyright_Licenses_Are_Key_When_Including_Software_in_Standards.gmi 
[23:34]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Copyright Licenses Are Key When Including Software in Standards
[23:37]	TR News	Flux is a kinetic art installation brought to life with Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/flux-is-a-kinetic-art-installation-brought-to-life-with-arduino/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/flux-is-a-kinetic-art-installation-brought-to-life-with-arduino/
[23:37]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | Flux is a kinetic art installation brought to life with Arduino | Arduino Blog
[23:38]	TR News	Uroflow measures urine stream to monitor medical treatments | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/uroflow-measures-urine-stream-to-monitor-medical-treatments/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/uroflow-measures-urine-stream-to-monitor-medical-treatments/
[23:38]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | Uroflow measures urine stream to monitor medical treatments | Arduino Blog
[23:38]	TR News	Build a smart home entertainment system | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/build-a-smart-home-entertainment-system/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/build-a-smart-home-entertainment-system/
[23:38]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | Build a smart home entertainment system | Arduino Blog
[23:42]	TR News	Dooming Linux with Microsoft infection https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=8aebac82933ff1a7c8eede18cab11e1115e2062b see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/
[23:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[23:42]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights
[23:43]	TR News	 (NEW): Arduino Projects: Entertainment, Art, and Medical http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Arduino_Projects_Entertainment_Art_and_Medical.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Arduino_Projects_Entertainment_Art_and_Medical.gmi 
[23:43]		-TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Arduino Projects: Entertainment, Art, and Medical
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[00:00]	frog	which is, long story short: no germans remaining anymore
[00:00]	frog	by the ethnic/cultural traits of what i considered
[00:00]	XRevan86	immibis: From watching https://youtu.be/BbkTJGcNTWA I got more stupid.
[00:00]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=BbkTJGcNTWA
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[00:01]	XRevan86	This is a dinner table level discussion.
[00:02]	frog	this was something Russia and AfD objected to, particular cultural and ethnic traits vanished, which is a fact
[00:03]	XRevan86	I'm curious who these people are and why they think their opinions are worth being transmitted to a large audience.
[00:03]	XRevan86	frog: Ye do realise the Russian Federation has an ethnic minority cultural heritage preservation problem?
[00:04]	frog	XRevan86: in Russia? didn't know that.
[00:06]	MinceR	it's probably getting worse
[00:06]	frog	the problem i am having with this refugee/migration agenda, is a lack of focus on academic exchange
[00:06]	MinceR	with all the sending off more non-russian ethnicities into the blender
[00:06]	frog	and even when, such is framed into the pseudo-multi-cultural doctrine, instead of science etc
[00:07]	frog	meaning this, for example, the Hungarian immigrant i worked with, was a fluent speaker of English
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[00:07]	frog	the Ukrainians learned german quickly etc. and focused on technical aspects
[00:07]	frog	the type of migration which is arranged for in germany, mostly, follows other "ideals", than asking for some other qualities
[00:08]	XRevan86	immibis: "We solved nothing!" <- At least they know.
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[00:08]	XRevan86	That redeemed them somewhat.
[00:09]	XRevan86	At the end of that dinner table worthy discussion one of the discussers shouted "We solved nothing!" in admission that their discussion was effectively worthless.
[00:10]	XRevan86	frog: Right now the focus is fleeing the war.
[00:10]	frog	XRevan86: and asking for "WW2 reparations", "social security payments" in germany, and receiving a russian gas/energy friendship discount
[00:10]	frog	i am well aware, of what's going on
[00:11]	XRevan86	And refugees in Germany among other things is why the death tally to date is *not* going to be over 250 000 people.
[00:12]	XRevan86	death toll I mean
[00:13]	XRevan86	Evacuation is how people don't die.
[00:14]	frog	stupid question: where could i go now?
[00:14]	XRevan86	"and receiving a russian gas/energy friendship discount" <- Ugh.
[00:14]	XRevan86	Didn't I debunk that already?
[00:15]	XRevan86	"i am well aware, of what's going on" <- Doubt it.
[00:20]	XRevan86	"The Alt-Right Playbook: The Card Says Moops" <- I do recognise that in pro-Kremlin discourse.
[00:24]	MinceR	04 011340 < XRevan86> Evacuation is how people don't die.
[00:24]	MinceR	unless putler has the zaporizhzhia plant blown up at the right time
[00:25]	MinceR	that's yet another game the west is playing when it shouldn't.
[00:26]	XRevan86	MinceR: Reminder that Putin has children and grandchildren.
[00:26]	MinceR	does putler care about them?
[00:26]	XRevan86	MinceR: Yes.
[00:26]	MinceR	he certainly doesn't act like someone who does.
[00:27]	XRevan86	MinceR: They live very comfortable lives.
[00:27]	MinceR	not for long
[00:27]	XRevan86	MinceR: Why would that be?
[00:27]	MinceR	the russian economy stood on one leg: sale of fossil fuels
[00:27]	MinceR	the world was already moving off those
[00:28]	MinceR	and then putler made sure that nobody in the less benighted part of the world wants to deal with russia
[00:28]	MinceR	so russia's economy is pretty much doomed
[00:28]	MinceR	and the state is not much better off
[00:28]	XRevan86	MinceR: I'm sure he thinks he can still make everyone come back crawling.
[00:28]	MinceR	the best scenario for them is to become a colony of red china
[00:28]	MinceR	he's an idiot if he thinks that
[00:28]	MinceR	well, he's an idiot anyway
[00:29]	MinceR	he could have shut up and lived the few years he had remaining in power, comfort and silence
[00:29]	MinceR	and then his offspring could have lived off their ill-gotten riches
[00:30]	MinceR	instead, he pretty much destroyed russia
[00:32]	frog	i wouldn't want to underestimate russian industry and science
[00:32]	frog	and the nordstream pipeline project, is just one example, of remarkable industrial craftsmenship
[00:32]	MinceR	the russian engineers and scientists have already left the country
[00:32]	frog	too the Russians are a capable nuclear force, civil and military
[00:32]	MinceR	so has the capital
[00:33]	MinceR	and no one is going to trip over their own feet to get back
[00:33]	frog	the Akademik Lomonosov, is another such crazy Russian piece of technology
[00:33]	MinceR	04 013236 < frog> and the nordstream pipeline project, is just one example, of remarkable industrial craftsmenship
[00:33]	MinceR	also not a russian one
[00:34]	frog	and i think it is disrepectful towards Russia, to discredit the industrial and economic capabilities of all of them
[00:34]	MinceR	too bad
[00:34]	MinceR	your fuhrer was also disrespectful towards russia
[00:35]	XRevan86	> But Zaluzhny also respected and admired the institutions of his Russian counterparts. In his office, he keeps the collected works of General Valery Gerasimov, the head of the Russian armed forces, who is 17 years his senior.
[00:35]	XRevan86	> I was raised on Russian military doctrine, and I still think that the science of war is all located in Russia, Zaluzhny says. I learned from Gerasimov. I read everything he ever wrote He is the smartest of men, and my expectations of him were enormous.
[00:35]	XRevan86	I'll quote this again.
[00:35]	XRevan86	frog: I want you to understand something.
[00:35]	frog	ok
[00:35]	MinceR	lol
[00:35]	XRevan86	frog: Russia has potential, it has science, it has engineers.
[00:36]	MinceR	you forgot the past tense
[00:36]	XRevan86	MinceR: For the sake of simplicity.
[00:36]	MinceR	what russia still has is corruption and totalitarianism
[00:36]	frog	MinceR: which couldn't be worse than the "EU"
[00:36]	frog	anyway
[00:36]	XRevan86	frog: But the regime is such a disorganised repressive mess that everything that's trying to grow in Russia is getting stomped instantly.
[00:37]	frog	you know, it's no secret, how much I appreciate the "EU" flavor of this
[00:38]	XRevan86	And the freakiest thing is that Putin and his government don't even realise just how bad the situation is.
[00:38]	frog	exactly
[00:38]	XRevan86	They got Russia into this mess because of that. They thought they're powerful like Nazi Germany that can overpower little Ukraine in days.
[00:39]	frog	in germany, they are still haunting all sorts of weird phantasies of "renewable" energy, and "digitalization", and "carbon neutral" economy
[00:39]	frog	anyway
[00:40]	XRevan86	All of Russia's prowess under Putin was no more than phantoms, and this war is Russia's reality check.
[00:40]	frog	it too is, for "germany"
[00:40]	frog	and their "support for Ukraine"
[00:41]	frog	which i receive energy bills for, result being i got books to burn for heating next
[00:42]	XRevan86	Potemkin villages can't win a war.
[00:42]	MinceR	04 013637 < frog> MinceR: which couldn't be worse than the "EU"
[00:42]	MinceR	only according to ruscists
[00:42]	MinceR	04 013652 < XRevan86> frog: But the regime is such a disorganised repressive mess that everything that's trying to grow in Russia is getting stomped instantly.
[00:42]	MinceR	the same thing is going on in hungary
[00:43]	MinceR	also, i see it's still february in aggi's mind
[00:43]	MinceR	Endless February
[00:46]	MinceR	another thing authoritarians have trouble grasping is that corruption and totalitarianism are both fatal to science and technology
[00:53]	XRevan86	immibis: I recognise Russian propaganda a lot in what he describes.
[00:54]	XRevan86	One big difference though is that Russian propaganda is not interested in winning an argument, it's trying to shield itself from outside interference.
[00:56]	XRevan86	"in winning an argument" <- I mean in a way where there is an active discussion.
[00:59]	XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettle_logic That's exactly it!
[00:59]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Kettle logic - Wikipedia
[00:59]	XRevan86	How did I not know this term? This is Russian propaganda.
● Oct 04
[01:04]	immibis	frog: You receive energy bills because you agreed to pay whatever Russia wanted you to pay
[01:04]	immibis	frog: If you didn't like that, you should have not signed up for that.
[01:04]	XRevan86	https://neuters.de/world/asia-pacific/nkorea-fires-missile-towards-east-skorea-military-2022-10-03/
[01:04]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | N.Korea fires missile over Japan, some residents warned to take cover
[01:05]	XRevan86	https://neuters.de/world/asia-pacific/nkorea-backs-russias-proclaimed-annexations-criticises-us-double-standards-2022-10-03/
[01:05]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | N.Korea backs Russia's proclaimed annexations, criticises U.S. 'double standards'
[01:09]	frog	immibis: this energy bill is not from russia, and it's not energy paid for with it
[01:10]	frog	immibis: and i had not signed anything; immibis, either you pay, or you are thrown out onto the streets as homeless
[01:12]	XRevan86	I guess all the people who said that Germany has a huge unemployment package lied to me.
[01:14]	frog	i got work to do, piling up to the roof, i wanted to hire staff even
[01:14]	XRevan86	And the Berliner who said that he doesn't pay anything for gas as he doesn't use gas.
[01:15]	immibis	frog: Of course you signed something.
[01:16]	immibis	frog: If you didn't sign anything agreeing to use energy and receive energy bills, then, you can simply ignore the bills, as long as you didn't use any energy.
[01:16]	immibis	frog: did you use any energy from the energy company?
[01:16]	XRevan86	immibis: Are ye German?
[01:17]	immibis	XRevan86: bin ich Deutsch? Natrlich nicht
[01:17]	frog	immibis: this is the current price estimate, when energy consumed is ZERO, the basic free electricity and heating, is 800Euros/year, for ZERO consumption.
[01:17]	immibis	XRevan86: I know that in Germany, normally you agree to this as part of your rental contract.
[01:17]	frog	that's "electricity" and "heating", and i NEVER signed any of this
[01:17]	immibis	frog: If you didn't sign anything, they have no legal basis to charge you. But you did.
[01:18]	XRevan86	immibis: I also managed to get out of frog the information that he has a landlord.
[01:18]	frog	right, there is no legal basis for this, it's just illegal what they did.
[01:18]	immibis	frog: I'm told by a German person that it's also normal to pay a fixed amount monthly for energy, and then pay/get paid the difference once a year
[01:18]	frog	*basic fee
[01:18]	immibis	based on the actual meter readings
[01:19]	frog	i will do the following however, calculat the REAL prize of cents/kWh paid
[01:19]	immibis	frog: You will do the following: learn how and why energy is billed in Germany
[01:19]	XRevan86	immibis: Ye can't force him to take care of himself %)
[01:19]	immibis	frog: You will then learn how you signed up for it. Was it in your rental contract? Probably.
[01:19]	frog	wrong again, they insinst on payment for NOTHING
[01:19]	immibis	frog: You will find your rental contract, and read it.
[01:20]	frog	yes, i got this rental contract, and nowhere does it state to pay 155Euro/month for NOTHING
[01:20]	frog	and label this "heating" or "energy"
[01:20]	frog	or 2Euro/kWh
[01:20]	frog	which too is ILLEGAL (Wucher)
[01:21]	immibis	frog: And who is the bill from?
[01:21]	frog	too, FRAUD, is illegal, and a CRIMINAL offense
[01:21]	immibis	frog: Germans are more litigious than Americans. Sue whoever sent you the bill.
[01:21]	frog	immibis: very good question. the recent letter i got, too is full of rubbish
[01:22]	frog	"gas allocation fee
[01:22]	immibis	what is the german term?
[01:22]	frog	"gas allocation fee" "gas storage fee" "SLP balancing fee" "gas re-allocation fee"... wtf is this?
[01:22]	immibis	sue them
[01:23]	frog	Gasbeschaffungsumlage, Gasspeicherumlage, SLP-Bilanzierungsumlage, and, from the government, Gasumlage
[01:23]	frog	officially, it was supposed to be one such "Umlage", in the letter here, they say it's three of those
[01:23]	immibis	frog: This is written in German - does it answer anything? https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Fachthemen/ElektrizitaetundGas/Versorgungssicherheit/aktuelle_gasversorgung/_func_faq/THE_FAQ_Speicher_Gasumlage.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=1
[01:23]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Missing content type. Ignoring.
[01:24]	immibis	TechPolBot is just too cowardly to download the file and check the magic number
[01:24]	frog	my progonisis is, they intend to bill 175Euros/month (electricity and heating) even when ZERO energy is consumed, and label it "energy"
[01:24]	frog	and that's only "energy" and "heating"
[01:24]	immibis	who is "they"?
[01:24]	frog	GOOD QUESTION, who are they?
[01:25]	immibis	It is normal in many countries that if you sign up for something like internet or electricity, you have to pay some amount just for the connection, and then pay for the amount you use as well
[01:25]	immibis	frog: WELL WHOSE NAME IS ON THE BILL
[01:25]	frog	well, again, difficult question; the landlord/owner of the flat is residing in Munich somewhere, and the owner contracts a manager
[01:25]	XRevan86	"who are they?" <- Haven't ye watched They Live? Aliens.
[01:25]	frog	the manager contracts an energy-service-metering company
[01:26]	frog	btw. the metering itself too is FRAUDULENT
[01:26]	immibis	frog: And you agreed to have energy service?
[01:26]	frog	i signed a contract to rent this flat, 10 years ago, and since then even cut down energy requirements ~50%
[01:26]	immibis	what does your rental contract say about energy?
[01:26]	immibis	are you a member of the mieterverein?
[01:26]	frog	there is no legal basis in the renting contract to introduce any such "Umlagen"
[01:27]	immibis	well then sue them
[01:27]	frog	forget about this nonsense
[01:27]	immibis	or rather, ask a lawyer first
[01:27]	frog	i got neither money nor time for this
[01:27]	frog	immibis: lol, how should i pay for a lawyer
[01:27]	frog	with what?
[01:27]	XRevan86	"shitcoins"
[01:28]	immibis	frog: I take it you are not a member of your local mieterverein
[01:28]	XRevan86	I'm sorry for interjecting jokes into this conversation where an adult is trying to potty train a frog.
[01:29]	frog	immibis: i want to leave this shithole ghetto
[01:29]	frog	but cannot afford this either
[01:29]	immibis	frog: then do so. Nobody is stopping you except investors.
[01:29]	immibis	who happen to control society
[01:29]	frog	because, they robbed and looted and plundered me for almost 20 years now
[01:29]	immibis	in this case "they" is investors.
[01:32]	immibis	frog: if I understand this machine translation well enough, the Gas***umlage is a penalty for being stupid enough to have your home connected to Russian gas.
[01:32]	immibis	Because the prices for Russian gas increased, you have to pay the higher price.
[01:32]	XRevan86	https://neuters.de/world/us-send-mobile-rocket-launchers-ukraine-625-mln-aid-package-officials-2022-10-03/
[01:32]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | U.S. to send mobile rocket launchers to Ukraine in $625 mln aid package -officials
[01:32]	immibis	even if you had a fixed price contract, the force majeure scenario caused the government to allow suppliers to break their fixed-price contracts. Or something like that
[01:33]	frog	immibis: yes, i do want to disconnect from this grid, and do the little heating and warm water with electricity
[01:33]	immibis	frog: Then do it.
[01:33]	frog	immibis: but i can't, i have no choice, and they will continue to bill this "basic fee"
[01:33]	immibis	frog: then free market capitalism says you are welcome to find another apartment without a gas connection, or lobby your landlord to disconnect it
[01:33]	frog	that's not the "cold rent" either, the "basic fee" of 30% of something what i wouldn't know that is
[01:34]	frog	immibis: i already did tell he should disconnect this, he said he'll throw me out
[01:34]	frog	and as far as the "market" was concerned, that's a whole other discussion
[01:35]	frog	reminder, 2 "currency reforms" since 1990, and everything expropriated
[01:35]	immibis	frog: Germany has strong tenant protections. And greedy leechlords (like every capitalist country) who will extort all your money. 
[01:35]	immibis	even when it's illegal for them to do that
[01:35]	immibis	hence, you would have to contact a lawyer
[01:35]	immibis	can't afford to? Then tough, you are homeless now, have fun
[01:35]	frog	i haven't got the time for this nor the money
[01:35]	frog	i want to LEAVE
[01:35]	immibis	frog: Then you are homeless. have fun!
[01:36]	frog	and i want back MY homeland!
[01:36]	immibis	frog: where is your homeland?
[01:36]	immibis	as a frog, is it the swamp where Berlin used to be?
[01:36]	immibis	well, where Berlin is now*
[01:36]	frog	another good question, because this one is occupied by usurpers and murderous criminals
[01:36]	immibis	frog: that's capitalism
[01:37]	frog	which is why, that's no place to go to anymore either
[01:37]	frog	meaning, too before, any foreign agents and criminals had to leave from there, all of them, before i could ever set a foot on the ground in MY HOME
[01:38]	XRevan86	immibis: "Because the prices for Russian gas increased, you have to pay the higher price" <- Not Russian, Germany is forced to get it from other sources.
[01:38]	frog	immibis: it's not capitalizm, it's ethnocide, and murder
[01:39]	frog	and it's not russian gas, it's their re-selling trading surplus margins, plus another 7 taxes on top of it
[01:39]	frog	that's why, ZERO energy, with an estimate of mine, is billed with ~800Euros/year to come
[01:39]	frog	because, thats "carbon neutral"
[01:39]	frog	as far as i am concerned, they may burn their paper money for heating, and eat the shit they excrete
[01:40]	immibis	XRevan86: well the price for russian gas is infinity, be glad they found a way to lower it
[01:40]	immibis	frog: you're still talking about capitalism
[01:40]	frog	no, it's not
[01:41]	XRevan86	"and it's not russian gas, it's their re-selling trading surplus margins, plus another 7 taxes on top of it" <- So when Norway extracts gas from the North Sea, is it re-selling Russian gas?
[01:41]	frog	the fact they're blathering with capitalist terms, is unrelated to what they really are
[01:41]	frog	one day they're loyal "liberals", next day the're "social democrats", or eco peace activists, i don't care how they label themselves
[01:42]	XRevan86	I have a strong suspicion that frog believes that Russia is the only country in the world that possesses natural gas.
[01:42]	frog	XRevan86: Norway doesn't have the amount of gas for sale
[01:42]	frog	furthermore, with the bill i received, it is NOT gas/energy, it's fraud and scam
[01:42]	XRevan86	frog: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Countries_by_Natural_Gas_Proven_Reserves_%282014%29.svg What about other countries?
[01:43]	frog	do you really intend to iterate over basics now?
[01:43]	XRevan86	When it comes to LNG, one doesn't have to rely on one single source.
[01:43]	immibis	frog: I didn't find information in English about how this is calculted. Do you normally pay an estimated amount and then correct it once a year? Or do you have a smart meter?
[01:43]	frog	there wasn't any shortage of supply of gas/energy/electricity/petrol
[01:44]	frog	immibis: i got no access to the gas metering, and both the bill and the metering are FRAUDULENT
[01:44]	immibis	yes there is
[01:44]	immibis	If you have no access how do you know it's fraudulent?
[01:44]	immibis	Did you use any gas this year?
[01:44]	frog	yes, i can tell you how much water i used, for this i got a metering in cubic meters
[01:45]	immibis	and how much gas did you use?
[01:45]	frog	and too i know, my warm water usage was only ~50% of the average
[01:45]	frog	with heating, i turned off all heaters, except one to prevent fungus, alltogether the heating is at most 15% of the average
[01:46]	frog	immibis: i cannot say, because this bill estimates some arbitrary "Unit" for heating, and mixes this calculation together with warm water
[01:46]	frog	and too it demands 30% basic fee based on whatever amount i do not know
[01:47]	frog	all i can do is cut down heating to ZERO, and then i got cubic meters of hot water together with the cold-water influx temperature measured and the hot-water output
[01:47]	frog	only from this i can calculate the REAL price
[01:47]	frog	and the bill doesn't do it
[01:47]	frog	yet, the bill isn't the only problem, too the recent "Umlagen" are total nonsense
[01:48]	XRevan86	frog: "do you really intend to iterate over basics now?" <- Not really, I'm intending to go to sleep.
[01:48]	frog	XRevan86: sleep well. i'll depart too now. gn
[01:48]	XRevan86	But if ye will draw a coherent scheme of that Russian gas re-sell, I'll check it out.
[01:48]	immibis	frog: they probably measured how much energy it takes to make a liter of hot water
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[01:49]	XRevan86	If it's Russian LNG Japan LNG Germany, then that would be at least hilarious.
[01:49]	frog	immibis: no, they do something else instead, confusing "shares of usge" with "shares of costs"
[01:50]	frog	and those shares are based on an ARBITRARY "Unit" (Einheit), not any amount of energy (joule, kWh)
[01:54]	immibis	how do you know the arbitrary unit is not a correct unit
[01:54]	immibis	maybe they just wrote "unit" generically instead of "kWh"
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[01:54]	frog	because i reduced consumption _another_ ~25%, and did not receive a refund, one hint
[01:54]	immibis	we don't claim that court summons are invalid because they write IMMIBIS instead of ::immi:of:the:family:bis::
[01:55]	immibis	well i'd say step 1 is to understand how this stuff is calculated
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[01:56]	frog	and recently, with my estimate, if i cut down warm water another 50% and cut down heating to ZERO, the DOUBLE the bill nonetheless, this is the estimate
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[01:57]	immibis	that could be because the cost per unit went up
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[01:57]	immibis	it could also be because your meter is illegally connected to someone else's apartment
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[01:57]	frog	ok, and then, i want to know, exactly, how many kWh(joule) and price/kWh
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[01:58]	frog	immibis: if it is something at the scale of... who knows 1-2Euro/kWh then what
[01:58]	frog	what is this?
[01:58]	frog	and even when, "energy" consumption was cut down to zero, what's the total basic fee then per year for "electricity" and "heating"
[01:58]	immibis	you need to find the law where it says bills have to be clear, and then you tell your landlord you'll sue them, and if they try to evict you, you say you'll double-sue them because it's illegal to evict someone for suing you
[01:58]	immibis	(which it presumably is, if they did something sue-able)
[01:59]	immibis	and then if they actually evict you, you double-sue them
[01:59]	frog	fraud is not only illegal, fraud is a CRIMINAL offense, including incarceration and compensation of damages
[01:59]	frog	which is, fungus creeping up the walls in this shithole here
[01:59]	immibis	ok then sue them
● Oct 04
[02:00]	immibis	that's what you do when someone hurts you with nonviolent illegality
[02:00]	frog	and this, is a plausible argument, but not relevant in practice
[02:00]	frog	and i too remember another legal proceeding at court here, and guess what.
[02:00]	frog	forget about it
[02:00]	frog	then i have to sue the court itself here
[02:00]	frog	which is pushing beyond my abilities
[02:01]	frog	besides the fact, there is other legal basis for sueing this criminal and murderous cartell: violation of my human rightrs
[02:01]	frog	human rights, 20years that is now in total
[02:01]	frog	yet with this, i had not even begun, to tell a little, what's going on, in "germany"
[02:02]	XRevan86	What's this "human rights" thing?
[02:02]	immibis	the right to own property is inviolable, according to the german constitution
[02:02]	immibis	that means your landlord has constitutional rights, and you don't
[02:02]	immibis	by renting, you are trespassing on his rights
[02:02]	immibis	but if you agree to be a slave, he will look the other way
[02:02]	immibis	that's how capitalism works
[02:03]	frog	wrong again, i am doing my work, and this is how capitalism works, to at least pay for work
[02:03]	frog	yet even this, seems to push beyond the limits of their higher intellect here
[02:04]	TR News	3x3 https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/erling-haaland-manchester-city-hat-tricks-63800396
[02:04]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.mancity.com | Watch: Erling Haaland's City hat-tricks
[02:06]	frog	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocide
[02:06]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Ethnocide - Wikipedia
[02:06]	immibis	frog: Wrong. That's how they TELL you capitalism works. Not how it actually works.
[02:06]	frog	(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
[02:07]	frog	check.
[02:07]	frog	(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
[02:07]	frog	check.
[02:07]	frog	(c) Any form of population transfer which has the aim or effect of violating or undermining any of their rights;
[02:07]	frog	check.
[02:07]	frog	(d) Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on them by legislative, administrative or other measures;
[02:07]	frog	check.
[02:07]	frog	(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them.
[02:07]	frog	check.
[02:07]	immibis	what ethnicity
[02:08]	frog	another good question.
[02:08]	frog	gone.
[02:08]	immibis	what ethnicity is gone
[02:08]	frog	you know, i am well aware of the facade and masquerade with this
[02:09]	frog	yet, if "german" "re-unification" is "celebrated" today, and there isn't at least one speaker remaining to celebrate with
[02:09]	frog	whatever this is
[02:09]	XRevan86	"and there isn't at least one speaker remaining to celebrate with" <- Speaker?
[02:11]	frog	two "currency reforms", expropriations, looting plundering, population transfer, the propaganda one too is notable which was "unproductive" "uncompetive" "fascist piece of shit", 20 years
[02:11]	frog	anyway, the recent "energy" bill, that's just a laughable minor piece
[02:11]	frog	because, they had destroyed everything already
[02:14]	XRevan86	frog: Can ye elaborate on "what ethnicity?" and on "Speaker?"?
[02:14]	frog	"german" isn't an ethnicity, to begin with, it's a designation applied by foreigners
[02:15]	frog	within german-language realm, we are/were distinct and different peoples
[02:15]	XRevan86	Saying "it's an exonym" doesn't say whether there's an ethnicity or not.
[02:16]	XRevan86	"Hungarian" is an exonym.
[02:16]	frog	with varying languages (such as Dutch is almost incomprehensible as german, and swiss-german language is incomprehensible to many non-native german speakers too)
[02:16]	frog	furthermore, the mentalities differ, and too, in germany, we got some _old_ dialects, and with old i mean archaic it's almost impossible to date this
[02:18]	frog	various "religious" influences, too are imposed, just a side note, meaning catholic church/christian and their "culture", although when considered non-hostile, are not a legitimate authority 
[02:18]	frog	nonetheless, such psycho-sects with totalitarian control dictate politics and publicity
[02:18]	frog	too many details to mention
[02:18]	frog	in any case, they eradicate
[02:18]	frog	loot and plunder
[02:20]	frog	and being hold hostage as a zoo animal and social experiment creature for 20 years, that's another interpretation of this
[02:20]	frog	held
[02:21]	frog	meaning, this entire socio-economic-political doctrine, transcends beyond the shallow "capitalist" narrative, far beyond
[02:21]	immibis	frog: did you know all capitalism is a ponzi scheme?
[02:21]	frog	irelevant, because next day it's called communism, result being the same
[02:24]	immibis	some nazis don't like to call what they're doing nazism, because it's bad PR. Some called it communism
[02:26]	immibis	frog: we are all zoo animals for wealthy investors and corrupt politicians
[02:27]	immibis	central banks have been influencing the balance towards investors for about 40 years, perhaps through naivety
[02:27]	XRevan86	https://time.news/nato-warns-of-the-mobilization-of-a-russian-submarine-carrier-of-the-weapon-of-the-apocalypse/
[02:27]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-NATO warns of the mobilization of a Russian submarine, carrier of the Weapon of the Apocalypse - time.news - Time News
[02:28]	XRevan86	Actually, this is trash, let me repost.
[02:28]	XRevan86	https://english.nv.ua/nation/50274160.html
[02:28]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-english.nv.ua | NATO fears Russia preparing to test Poseidon nuclear torpedo for the first time / The New Voice of Ukraine
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[04:02]	scientes	wikipedia seems to have lost the decipline they had before
[04:02]	scientes	they are blocking Yota ip addresses for "vandalism", which is just test edits of people not use to wikipedia
[04:04]	scientes	that is what happens when they let politically oriented people watch large swatches of pages and form cabals
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[04:37]	TR News	Inflation in Turkey surges to 83% - BillBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63120478 Source: BillBC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63120478
[04:37]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.bbc.co.uk | Inflation in Turkey surges to 83% - BBC News
[04:37]	TR News	estonia https://news.err.ee/1608737218/estonian-president-russia-trying-to-force-europe-into-a-corner
[04:37]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-news.err.ee | Estonian president: Russia trying to force Europe into a corner | News | ERR
[04:37]	TR News	austria https://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2022/10/austrian-president-wants-all-austrian.html
[04:37]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-garyfouse.blogspot.com | FOUSESQUAWK: Austrian President Wants All Austrian Women to Wear Headscarves
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[05:12]	TR News	Capitol bribes https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/capitol-flight-how-dems-dropped-the-stock-ban/ | Source: The Nation
[05:12]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.thenation.com | Capitol Flight: How Dems Dropped the Stock Ban | The Nation
[05:18]	scientes	XRevan86, "weapon of the apocolypse" yes, sounds like the christian fanatics took over
[05:20]	scientes	<XRevan86> When it comes to LNG, one doesn't have to rely on one single source.
[05:20]	scientes	yeah, and most NH4 is stiff being burned up immediately after extraction, for lack of somewhere to put it
[05:21]	scientes	just like we got gasline cars, and then soccer-mom-cars and hummars when those were too expensive (paradoxical, expensive meant LESS fuel efficiency) because nobody can change oil chemistry
[05:21]	scientes	gas cars were pushed on people, because the economy was so dependent on diesel
[05:21]	scientes	but right now I am moving pretty fast, and it is all electric
[05:21]	scientes	and in Abakan there were vanity shots of RZD trains carrying coal
[05:24]	scientes	Herr Herring, according to Charlie CHaplain
[05:26]	TR News	Stop the Ukraine War https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/03/stop-the-ukraine-war-refuse-to-handle-military-cargo/ | Source: Counter Punch
[05:26]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Stop the Ukraine War: Refuse to Handle Military Cargo - CounterPunch.org
[05:26]	TR News	Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad on Ukraine https://www.democracynow.org/2022/10/3/noam_chomsky_us_isolated_ukraine_war | Source: Democracy Now
[05:26]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.democracynow.org | Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad on Ukraine, Why U.S. Must Negotiate with Russia & What Media Gets Wrong | Democracy Now!
[05:30]	TR News	Lithuanians https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/10/03/suing-gorbachev | Source: Meduza
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[05:31]	TR News	"Dmitry Ozerkov, the head curator of contemporary art at St. Petersburgs State Hermitage, has resigned from his position after 22 years of working at Russias celebrated art museum." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/03/dmitry-ozerkov-head-curator-of-contemporary-art-resigned-from-hermitage | Source: Meduza
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[05:39]	mjg59_	highest_cubist_thrills: Reasonable request
[05:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	you may have done more harm all in all, but on a day to day basis hes more annoying.
[05:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive made my position on him very clear
[05:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	anyway, about rms
[05:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	this is news to me ofc
[05:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	and i note my scepticism too
[05:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	leah has stated that hes an idiot on this, i prefer to say hes pedantic
[05:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	well, leah has stated at least that his position on this is stupid
[05:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i didnt know it extended to refusal. thats the part that arouses scepticism
[05:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not saying youre lying. its at least possible he did so.
[05:44]	mjg59_	Oh yeah I'm not going to be offended by you being sceptical
[05:44]	mjg59_	I appreciate there's a bunch of reasons you might not trust me on this
[05:44]	TR News	"The UN prohibits North Korea from ballistic and nuclear weapons tests." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63126534 | Source: BBC
[05:44]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.bbc.co.uk | North Korea fires ballistic missile over Japan - BBC News
[05:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	i also consider the possibility that youre a sort of paid social justice hitman like roy says but
[05:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats not my pet theory
[05:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think youre in this for personal reasons, not professional ones
[05:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	not only because you say so either-- because it bears every bit of evidence that its personal
[05:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fact (and it is a fact) that it benefits your previous employers is relevant-- i just think roy overstresses that angle
[05:45]	mjg59_	Yeah this was a conversation about him not using the correct pronouns for my then partner
[05:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	i assumed as much
[05:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think roy is a sheer opportunist and i think he pretends to care about these issues
[05:46]	schestowitz[tr3]	which ones?
[05:46]	schestowitz[tr3]	also, I did not say "hitman" or whatever
[05:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	and sometimes when he starts accusing ME of "helping" your "side" i tell him so
[05:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	hitman was my word
[05:46]	mjg59_	And the Eben stuff included rms refusing to let Columbia know about Eben's behaviour because that might have a negative impact on his career
[05:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	which ones? <- since you ask i dont think youre capable of truly caring about anything at all.
[05:47]	schestowitz[tr3]	Eben gegts angry when it's warranted
[05:47]	schestowitz[tr3]	from what I saw
[05:47]	schestowitz[tr3]	maybe he had a legitimate reason to get angry
[05:47]	schestowitz[tr3]	but we saw no written accounbt
[05:47]	schestowitz[tr3]	and no context
[05:47]	mjg59_	Eben threatened to ruin a board member's career over the vote to remove Eben as FSF general counsel
[05:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me assumes complete innocence on ebens part
[05:47]	schestowitz[tr3]	so someone threatened Eban
[05:47]	schestowitz[tr3]	and Eben fired back
[05:47]	schestowitz[tr3]	got it
[05:48]	mjg59_	Nobody threatened him
[05:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	Eben threatened to ruin a board member's career <- this is the sort of ambiguity wynn was talking about
[05:48]	schestowitz[tr3]	someone voted to remove him
[05:48]	mjg59_	highest_cubist_thrills: I mean he literally said that he would ruin his career
[05:48]	schestowitz[tr3]	anyway, back to techrights
[05:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	over the vote to remove Eben as FSF general counsel <- i have mixed feelings about his removal but the logic seems valid at least.
[05:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	I mean he literally said that he would ruin his career <- in those words?
[05:48]	schestowitz[tr3]	gn
[05:48]	mjg59_	Yes
[05:48]	mjg59_	Was witnessed doing so by FSF staff
[05:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me sighs
[05:49]	mjg59_	And was confirmed by the board member in question
[05:50]	mjg59_	Anyway, my position is not that rms is fundamentally evil or anything
[05:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	no i realise that
[05:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	i also dont think hes fundamentally transphobic either
[05:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	unreasonable, disrespectful, if he REFUSES to use they even "problematic"
[05:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	though my love for catchall typing does not extend to "problematic"
[05:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	its like keleven.
[05:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	do you know sarah mei? its not important, im just always curious
[05:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	i may have even asked once before
[05:53]	mjg59_	I think we've met a couple of times, but I don't know her well
[05:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	Eben threatened to ruin a board member's career <- i really wish he hadnt done that
[05:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	it really sounds like something hes too smart to do
[05:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	i really think the fsf has been compromised since 2011 at the latest
[05:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	not only by "social justice"
[05:54]	mjg59_	Several people have suggested that Eben's behaviour changed some time around 2015
[05:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	also when i say "social justice" it runs a spectrum from things i agree are very important
[05:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	to things i think are... well, more divisive. it depends on a lot of factors.
[05:55]	mjg59_	I didn't spend much time engaging with him before that, so I don't know
[05:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	 Several people have suggested that Eben's behaviour changed some time around 2015 <- what year was this threat?
[05:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont think everyone who signed the anti-rms letter are traitors btw.
[05:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	ariadne for example, has stated her intentions well enough that i think evaluating her as an enemy is unfair or unwarranted or at least unnecessary
[05:56]	mjg59_	The threat was 2018
[05:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i really wish
[05:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	and i can see arguments (good or otherwise) for either approach
[05:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i REALLY wish your campaign had focused on eben (who i like) rather than rms
[05:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/
[05:57]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-wwahammy.com | Is LibrePlanet Safe?
[05:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	also, when i say "your campaign" i mean the one you belonged to
[05:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	im sure ill never know who really led this
[05:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont settle for one possbility. my picture of this situation looks more like many worlds than whodunnit
[05:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	its even possible there was no leader. i dont buy that, but it is a possibility
[05:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	kuhn lost a lot before this happened
[05:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	its pretty clear his role is vindictive
[05:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	i believe, though im not married to the theory, that your actions are primarily driven by personal feelings
[05:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	that doesnt automatically invalidate them
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[06:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	if someone is a dick to you-- your feelings arent irrelevant.
[06:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	if someone is a dick to you without a fucking good reason-- your feelings are even more relevant.
[06:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i dont assume money is the primary motivator here
[06:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	nor do i assume youre the leader of the mob, if it has one
[06:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	but you are the one most eager to be vindicated
[06:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	perhaps because roy insists on using you as a sort of punching bag for the entire mob
[06:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	which may be warranted-- but probably isnt
[06:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	its symbolic
[06:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	saddam wasnt a good guy for example, but iraq was about oil and money, not about saddam
[06:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	youre not the mob, youre a symbol of the mob
[06:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	also you and roy have been attacking each other (for various reasons) in an ongoing feud for years
[06:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	his comments, your lawyer
[06:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	and so on
[06:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes done the same to me with no justification whatsoever
[06:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	and he will always deny it, but i know that.
[06:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	you arent the enemy of my enemy here, youre just a person who was at least part of the mob
[06:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	who wont go away and insists on participating in discussions with the people who are on the sceptical side of all this
[06:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	im well aware of the possibility youre just here to collect dirt like roy says you are
[06:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	but there are other plausble possibilities as well
[06:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	i want to know how the movement died
[06:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	columbo would talk to everyone involved-- victims, suspects, family, friends
[06:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats gives the best chance of learning wtf happened
[06:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy is a monopolist
[06:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	he wants to control who talks to whom
[06:09]	scientes	highest_cubist_thrills, what if someone is talking to themselves?
[06:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	he provides excuses for this, not reasons. i do not care what he thinks. he makes it up as he goes along.
[06:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	he blame me for talking to you.
[06:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive heard all his good reasons, the rest he stick up his arse.
[06:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	camn
[06:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy tells people not to do things
[06:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	then he turns around and does them himself to get a story
[06:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	he deosnt care about the facts
[06:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	he only cares about pubilshing.
[06:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	he will swear its not so.
[06:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	well you know, if my leg is wet and a chemical analysis shows its 100% urine
[06:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont really need more information about what happened, do i
[06:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	"there was rain that day, the forecast..."
[06:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	"is unimportant, yes. unless the forecast called for piss"
[06:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	a million irrelevant details add nothing
[06:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	it isnt just the movement thats dead
[06:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	all progress on finding out what happened has died with it
[06:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	no one cares anymore
[06:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, i can wait.
[06:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	<mjg59_> And the Eben stuff included rms refusing to let Columbia know about Eben's behaviour because that might have a negative impact on his career
[06:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not sure how stallman has an ethical obligation to inform columbia of this
[06:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	particularly where a (admittedly annoying) nda is involved
[06:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think the nda culture at the fsf, even if a necessary evil, is deeply unfortunate
[06:27]	mjg59_	I think "This person who teaches students threatens people" is relevant information
[06:27]	mjg59_	And this was something that happened at a public event, so no NDA issue
[06:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was not commenting on its relevance
[06:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	so no NDA issue <- that sounds fair
[06:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	did other people inform columbia? i presume so
[06:28]	mjg59_	Not to the best of my knowledge
[06:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	why not? why does the responsibility fall squarely on rms?
[06:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	more than anyone else i mean
[06:28]	mjg59_	At the time I didn't feel like there was any chance of Columbia taking it seriously unless it came from the FSF
[06:29]	mjg59_	Thinking about it since then, I should probably have done so anyway
[06:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	surely someone at the fsf could have. kuhn seems a prime candidate.
[06:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	 I should probably have done so anyway <- you were on the board, right?
[06:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	at the time i mean
[06:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think if reported, columbia would have had to have taken it seriously
[06:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	with that said, im as cynical about the rigours of academia as anyone else
[06:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	moral ethical or otherwise
[06:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	epstein, ffs
[06:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh sorry harvard, my bad...
[06:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fsf has a culture of not fixing things, lasting years
[06:33]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/10/01/illinois-gov-jb-pritzker-suggests-safe-t-act-changes-could-be-needed/
[06:33]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker suggests SAFE-T Act changes could be needed
[06:34]	DaemonFC	After denying that this law will put murderers and rapists back out onto the street without even making them pay bail....
[06:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not just talking about your concerns, i mean it more broadly
[06:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	just keep saying what we stand for, and everything will work out
[06:34]	DaemonFC	It's an election year dumpster fire that could cause Darren Bailey to win.
[06:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	well, no. that isnt what standing for something means.
[06:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fsf went from being a force for change
[06:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	to being an endless pr campaign
[06:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	with politicians its expected
[06:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	"im going to blah blah blah blah blah"
[06:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	and its just to get elected
[06:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	they dont actually blah blah blah blah blah
[06:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	they just fucking say it
[06:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	at some point the fsf turned into that
[06:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	they were doomed since that time.
[06:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy puts way too much stress on what took them down
[06:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	im happy to put plenty of stress on that!
[06:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	the other half / fraction of the story clearly exists
[06:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	and that happened to
[06:38]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/10/01/round-lake-park-man-charged-with-beating-cat-leaving-it-with-part-of-its-face-missing-prosecutors-say/
[06:38]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Round Lake Park man charged with beating cat, leaving it with part of its face missing, prosecutors say
[06:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	too
[06:38]	DaemonFC	"Rolando Gonzalez"
[06:38]	DaemonFC	Sounds like someone who probably doesn't have his immigration papers.
[06:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	its like caring about how hiv/aids infects and kills people
[06:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	but not caring much about condoms and needle exchange programs
[06:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	both are relevant
[06:39]	DaemonFC	"Lake County Judge James Simonian ordered Gonzalez held on a $75,000 bond."
[06:39]	DaemonFC	The Democrat SAFE-T Act would have let him go without posting bond.
[06:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	and today there are cocktails too
[06:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	which is great
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[06:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	but as a rule, paying almost no attention to half of the story is a great way to be full of shit
[06:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	or at least half full of shit
[06:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	the more being half full of shit gets defended
[06:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	the more annoying it is
[06:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	anyway, reason #857 roy is an idiot
[06:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	talks about mjg ALL FUCKING DAY
[06:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	has a problem with people talking to mjg though
[06:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	fucking noob
[06:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	youre TOTALLY right roy. we should let you be the sole voice on who mjg is and never speak to him. just let you be god on this one. 
[06:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	that sounds reasonable.
[06:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	not even a trait of a controlling / monopolistic / solipsistic personality. yuh-huh.
[06:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	"he comes in here and"
[06:51]	immibis	highest_cubist_thrills: do you believe in free speech?
[06:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	responds to thinks you wont stfu up about, yes
[06:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	sure, we can do it the other way-- we can act like youre the one responding to HIM
[06:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	then we just have to look at what aridne has said about your obsession and 
[06:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh, is that all, roy? ok then. back to tech :)
[06:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	every time i go back to tech, someone fucks up some tech and there turns out to be politics
[06:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy knows goddamned well the whole premise of open source was to remove political discussion from "freedom"
[06:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the whole motivation for that was to make is to corporations could chastise people for talking about politics while reserving a monopoly on that for themselves
[06:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh-- WEEEEEE have to talk about politics. YOU DONT.
[06:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, thats what open source is about.
[06:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	and techrights, when you know, the wrong people talk about the wrong politics
[06:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	"we did a bunch of stories about that"
[06:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	sounds kinda relevant
[06:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	"no, WE move on"
[06:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i could literally rant all day long about HIS bullshit
[06:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	but, that wouldnt be the whole story either. contrary to his delusions, there are things going on more important than the regular spin job here.
[06:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	at least there were. and im sure theyre around here somewhere.
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[06:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	the most important thing going in techrights is xrevans coverage of the war
[06:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	which says a little about xrevan but it says more about the epic fail that has nothing to do with xrevan at all.
[06:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	it says more about the collapse of freesw than anything else
[06:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it says other things too
[06:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	 xrevans coverage <- which moved here ofc
● Oct 04
[07:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	maybe dfc is saying interesting things but i lost interest at "eugenics" or whatever he calls it
[07:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	its straight up eugenics, theres no distortion or mis-stating or anything like that
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[07:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	some people are genetically fucked and the death penalty is a cure-- thats fucking eugenics
[07:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the scale of it makes it all the more damning
[07:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	well im sorry that [excuse i dont care about] makes you feel that way ryan
[07:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	per your own logic, swallowing a gun will fix this 100%
[07:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	of course there are other options. ditch the eugenics you gay nazi cunt.
[07:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	but everybody wants the world to change before theyre willing to lift a finger.
[07:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh i couldnt possibly!
[07:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	it really is a miracle humanity still exists
[07:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	and its a miracle that im rooting for humanity here. i could be like roy and become an animal supremacist. he totally is.
[07:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	animals are good too
[07:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	i could become a complete misanthrope like mincer, but at least hes amusing to talk with. 
[07:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	instead i hope for humanity. i really honestly do. i accept that its a bit insane 
[07:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	but im still on team human.
[07:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	after all, they have a certain wild charm.
[07:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	flawed, yes. but probably more good than bad. 
[07:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyre just a bit stupid at times. only on days ending in y.
[07:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont think we would be better off putting dogs or cats in charge.
[07:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	gorillas: "if thats our future they might as well kill us now"
[07:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	no, seriously. we owe it to the gorillas to get our shit together
[07:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	not to mention we owe it to ourselves
[07:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	the human race doesnt have a genetic problem. its more of a social disease.
[07:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont do eugenics
[07:11]	scientes	highest_cubist_thrills, but do eugenics do you?
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● Oct 04
[08:00]	MinceR	04 065758 < highest_cubist_thrills> im sure ill never know who really led this
[08:00]	MinceR	they pay people they hide behind
[08:00]	MinceR	and those people have a responsibility in this.
[08:03]	MinceR	04 073835 < DaemonFC> Sounds like someone who probably doesn't have his immigration papers.
[08:03]	MinceR	because they're not an immigrant? :>
[08:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	the tactics are militant
[08:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	the companies that benefit have military ties
[08:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not naive about this.
[08:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres little chance theres no monetary connection.
[08:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	okay, theres ZERO chance.
[08:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	the question is where did the money go to
[08:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	lets create a fictional person, a placebo traitor for a moment
[08:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	this person gets the bribe
[08:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	and gets their right hand person to do it for free
[08:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	or whatever arrangement
[08:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	and then someone rallies the troops
[08:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	who go into it for various reasons
[08:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	kuhn is vindictive. the motive is obvious 
[08:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	we could be wrong but we arent
[08:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	kuhn is one person of many
[08:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	the guy from gnupg had a falling out with stallman years ago
[08:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	everyone who was ever butthurt by rms came out for these events-- some or all of these events
[08:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	lots of overlap between the 2018 and most recent coups
[08:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the ones in between
[08:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	overlap in names and participation and groups
[08:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	maybe the money went to eff, i dont fucking know
[08:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	maybe it went to mozilla
[08:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	maybe it went LOTS of places
[08:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont believe for a moment that everyone involved got paid
[08:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	some more than likely did
[08:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	mostly the job was to find more people.
[08:10]	MinceR	04 080744 < highest_cubist_thrills> i dont think we would be better off putting dogs or cats in charge.
[08:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	and get them to do it out of spite, "principle" or otherreasons
[08:10]	MinceR	we wouldn't be better off with dogs, they're just like humans
[08:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	so its abount money but for many, imo, it wasnt.
[08:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	some just did it because they think a fucking terrible idea is a great idea
[08:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think kuhn did it for revenge. this is my opinion
[08:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think mjg is on a crusade, and thats his motivation. i could be wrong.
[08:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	kuhn doesnt have a principle guiding him
[08:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not saying that such "principles" among those that have them dont override honesty
[08:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	only that differentpeople have different primary motivations
[08:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats not as juicy as going through resumes and saying AHA! you worked for...
[08:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	but
[08:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	red hat, debian AND google all play big roles in this
[08:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	the industry wanted blood, it got blood
[08:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	mjg worked at red hat AND google AND volunteeed for debian
[08:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	but then again
[08:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	it could have been any (or all, or none) of those hats
[08:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, im sure he didnt just wake up and say "gee i wonder if anyone is violating my pet cau-- OMG, NOT STALLMAN TOO!"
[08:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	more like red hat and/or debian and/or google said
[08:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	"i bet mjg will be on board with this"
[08:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	there are so many possibilities. i dont give a damn about which one is juiciest
[08:15]	MinceR	no one just woke up and said that
[08:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	mjg is interesting because he seems very near the centre/beginning of this
[08:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	doesnt mean hes the leader.
[08:15]	MinceR	they had to imagine things to have a case in the first place
[08:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	kuhn i think also likely
[08:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	mjg says its not kuhn
[08:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fsf has been sucking hard since 2011.
[08:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	i didnt want to destroy it, i wanted to save it.
[08:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	its dead now.
[08:16]	MinceR	presumably someone at dehomag or MICROS~1 said "i bet mjg will be a part of this for cheap"
[08:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not going to assume he was bribed.
[08:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	sure anythings possible.
[08:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	id rather build my picture from evidence
[08:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	i use speculation too! to figure out where to look next.
[08:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	and to piece together possible theories.
[08:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats how every scientists uses speculation (they prefer "hypothesis")
[08:17]	MinceR	we'll never see the bills
[08:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know
[08:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	but for me its enough to say "you were part of this"
[08:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont need to say "and YOU PERSONALLY are on the take"
[08:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	when we will never prove it
[08:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	SOME WERE clearly on the take
[08:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	motivations vary-- i doubt very much that NO ONE did it for the cash.
[08:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	i doubt even more that every player was paid for it
[08:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	people who are in it for they money usually care more about money.
[08:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think trying to paint mjg as in it for the money is a dead end.
[08:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, why not look at who he is and what hes like
[08:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont see a money guy.
[08:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	why cant he just be a zealot?
[08:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats not bad enough? its too nice?
[08:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	as long as im trying to take a scientific approach
[08:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	im going to go with the theories that make the most sense to me given what i know
[08:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think mjg is the zealot in this play, not the hired hitman
[08:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	of course he could be both, i havent ruled that out
[08:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	but as you said, we wont ever see the evidence of that
[08:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think kuhn did it out of sheer spite and envy.
[08:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	he wants to be stallman.
[08:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	daddy doesnt approve enough.
[08:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	so he threw daddy under the bus.
[08:21]	MinceR	why won't zealots care about what was actually said?
[08:22]	MinceR	what sort of zealot makes up a case to stand behind?
[08:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	because truth > truth
[08:22]	MinceR	lol
[08:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	hey, i know how zealots work.
[08:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	so do you
[08:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	everybody lied
[08:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	everybody was willing to sign lies
[08:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	some may have been more aware of what they were doing than others
[08:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	some may have truly believed the lies
[08:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats not a complete excuse. it mitigates it a bit if they thought it was true.
[08:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	at least one person unsigned. that set a good example regardless of the motivations.
[08:23]	MinceR	then they signed something without looking into whether it was true or not
[08:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	and im not defending that.
[08:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	its still wrong.
[08:24]	MinceR	with intent to harm someone for doing something they did not know if they did
[08:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	but thinking its true and signing irresponsibly
[08:24]	MinceR	it's seriously fucked up
[08:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	and knowing its bullshit and not caring
[08:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	are two different shades of fucked in this story
[08:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean
[08:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	knowing its bullshit and not caring will always be worse
[08:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think kuhn knew better
[08:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes not a holy man, just an ambitious prick 
[08:25]	MinceR	it's a fucked up way for a society to operate, and then the MICROS~1/dehomag shill calls Roy a transphobe for standing up against a cancel mob
[08:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	well i dont think roy is a transphobe.
[08:25]	MinceR	humans are fucking disgusting
[08:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont think hes much of ally either, but the opinions of starstreak and leah and ariadne on that matter more to me than my own opinion or mjgs
[08:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	so w/e, they can vote on that 
[08:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i dont think hes a transphobe anyway
[08:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	mjg has given me two new things to wonder about
[08:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	both are interesting, of course im sceptical, no secret is made of that-- he knows i dont trust him
[08:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	my attitude is columbo
[08:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	talk to everyone, see what they say
[08:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	he spends more time talking to people he KNOWS are lying.
[08:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	you can learn plenty from liars. 
[08:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	liars reveal information too
[08:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	that includes people who believe theyre honest but lie to themselves
[08:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	so yeah columbo doesnt turn his nose up at any interview
[08:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	and while i dont think hes the worlds greatest detective, i think that approach is reasonable.
[08:29]	MinceR	how do you find out which parts are the true ones?
[08:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	its what detectives in general do
[08:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	well when you talk to liars
[08:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	you have to learn how to spot lies
[08:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not impossible to do, its just extre work
[08:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	you find inconsistencies
[08:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive reasoned my way out of cults
[08:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	cults are collectives that bullshit each other and everyone around them
[08:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	they use incredibly social pressure, just like the cancel people
[08:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not saying im an investigative genius-- ill probably never wrap up this mystery
[08:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it matters anyway
[08:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	the history of the free sw movement is mostly whats left of it.
[08:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	the death is a very important chapter
[08:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	i predicted a number of events in it
[08:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	but im just as interested in it looking back
[08:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	piecing together new things from new clues
[08:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	some inconsistencies are just complexity
[08:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	some complexities are just inconsistencies and bullshit
[08:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	lies, misdirection
[08:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its not impossible to find your way through bullshit
[08:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	its just very tedious and sometimes youre never done
[08:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	other times you get lucky
[08:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	anytime someone lies they could be revealing an inconsistency, handing you a clue that something is UNTRUE
[08:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	and this can be a huge clue sometimes
[08:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	leading you right to a piece of information that is true and useful
[08:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	you throw in a hook, sometimes you get a shoe
[08:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	or nothing
[08:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	or a tiny insignificant fish
[08:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	or a catch
[08:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	but this chapter of free software history is the key to the next chapter
[08:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	its going to matter regardless of whether this or that person cares or not
[08:36]	MinceR	:)
[08:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy is good at finding pieces
[08:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	sometimes he even fits them together reasonably
[08:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	mostly my opinion of him has lowered over time
[08:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	but hey, credit where credit is due
[08:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	ever since cola this has been his hobby
[08:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think gnu.fools is at least as egregious as anything else that happened
[08:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah im still angry about the stallman betrayal years later
[08:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	gnu.fools straight up sends gnu trademark to the public domain
[08:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	while ibm (a software patent troll) goes after the gcc copyright
[08:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm will appropriate gcc.
[08:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	maybe theyll fail. no evidence they will. 
[08:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	dr sixel isnt wrong, no ones going to fork it
[08:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	clang you cant even compile. forking is harder.
[08:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	icecat isnt worth compiling. maybe im wrong. seems like its not.
[08:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh sure-- lets take an out of date source
[08:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	and compile it even though it takes forever.
[08:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	and doesnt work.
[08:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	so we can have shit.
[08:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, icecat is based on mozilla, all browsers suck.
[08:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i mean
[08:42]	MinceR	there were many attempts to fix failfox and afaik all of them failed
[08:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know
[08:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	tor browser is the least shit of them
[08:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	it even fails to load many websites-- thats progress :)
[08:42]	MinceR	i doubt tor browser is even trying to fix it
[08:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean im sceptical
[08:42]	MinceR	it's just that i don't really care if i get audio in it
[08:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont use tb to play media at all
[08:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	but how are we going to have free software
[08:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	if we dont even have a compiler
[08:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	gcc is practically a blob
[08:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	clang is worse
[08:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	i have no answers on this.
[08:44]	MinceR	we have free software written in other languages that have free self-hosted implementations
[08:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	gcc is the lesser evil. thats probably why ibm wants to control it
[08:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyre not a good company. theyre about as bad as a company gets.
[08:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	microsoft is worse-- microsoft IS ibm.
[08:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm has many faces. microsoft is one of them
[08:45]	MinceR	it might also be possible to reimplement support for OOP, namespaces, modules and other useful stuff in macros of a c-based lisp-like language like c-mera and lisp/c
[08:45]	MinceR	and use that on top of a c-only compiler
[08:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	so you think the compiler problem can be solved?
[08:46]	MinceR	yes
[08:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean i am interested in what engineers think sometimes
[08:46]	MinceR	in theory
[08:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wanted to be one once. thankfully i got over it
[08:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	theory is where these things start
[08:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	airplane and space rockets started with theory
[08:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dare say programming did
[08:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	ada invented the loop. probably not the first
[08:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	but ive seen her program
[08:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	she basically invented jmp
[08:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	the much maligned, much misunderstood jmp
[08:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm needs to be stopped
[08:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	humanity deserves better-- you dont have to agree
[08:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	i insist
[08:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	mjg wont stop them
[08:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	neither will techrights
[08:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	neither would the best tech blog on earth imo
[08:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	idk what will
[08:50]	MinceR	humanity deserves what it makes
[08:50]	MinceR	if it comes up with something better, then it will deserve it
[08:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	im glad you agree
[08:50]	MinceR	if the majority allies with the nuclear terrorists and kills the species off, then that's what humanity deserves
[08:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	if ibm running the world is the best humanity can do
[08:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont mind as much then if it kills itself
[08:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	but
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[08:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	ngl, i have slightly more faith in humanity than tht
[08:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	im very curious how long this shits gonna take
[08:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	fucking humanity loves to wait until the last minute
[08:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	id love to prove that moglen was justified in whatever he did
[08:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean getting rid of him as counsil, for going agains the client, which he might have done makes sense
[08:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i wouldnt be surprised if the missing piece of the puzzle, whatever it is, shows he was justifed
[08:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	people who worked to cancel stallman and defraud gnu also worked to defraud moglen
[08:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	so
[08:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean defraud
[08:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	so, my half-the-story detector is off the charts on that one
[08:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	sadly moglen is VERY reserved. understandably.
[08:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont think hes dishonest but whatever he is, isnt too conducive to knowing wtf happened
[08:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	if anyone is smarter than rms, its moglen
[08:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	and it wouldnt be by very much
[08:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	2 or 3 really bright people, put together, can be smarter than rms
[08:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	and this is a post mortem anyway
[08:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean rms failed
[08:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can list reasons why
[08:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	none of the smart people who know where he fucked up have managed to outdo what he did
[08:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	or even get things back on track
[08:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	so lets be fair about that
[08:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the failure isnt really up for debate
[08:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	it happened
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[09:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fsf stands against its own cause
[09:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	stallman is exiled and (still) not coming back
[09:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes never coming back. moglen either probably
[09:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	whoever steps up-- in 5, 10 or 25 years
[09:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	really should know what the fuck went wrong.
[09:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	sooner we piece that together the better
[09:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	also tells us who to trust the least
[09:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	if ibm doesnt fall
[09:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	i still want to see sfc fall. 
[09:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	roys death by a dozen aunties schtick wont take it down
[09:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	he thought "boycott novell" was "too negative"
[09:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	i want to see killer instinct, not pulled punches.
[09:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	not gossip
[09:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	i want to walk down the street and flip a quarter into kuhns cup
[09:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	and say "dont spend it all in one place, you fucking cunt"
[09:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	but you know
[09:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	probably never happen
[09:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	social justice my arse
[09:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	what do you think of social justice?
[09:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	"i think it would be a good idea"
[09:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	its also possible moglen simply did wrong and theres no point in pretending 
[09:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont think thats true-- but it is possible
[09:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	half the story is the rule in this game. its a stupid rule, and a stupid game.
[09:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	half the story fails bigtime in science
[09:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	stephen fry said free software works like science
[09:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	then he went home and back to using his mac. i like him. hes been attacked by people who didnt care that hes been suffering with depression/bipolar his whole life. probably a nice guy more than anything. sure he did a few arsehole things. loved him in so many roles.
[09:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it should work like science
[09:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	imagine that
[09:18]	MinceR	04 095137 < highest_cubist_thrills> fucking humanity loves to wait until the last minute
[09:18]	MinceR	i think the last minute has already passed
[09:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats possible too
[09:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	if so, at least some people will get what they deserve
[09:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	but then, theyre the same ones that dont give a shit 
[09:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats why im hoping for the other ones
[09:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	collectively its a pretty sorry lot
[09:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	we could get rid of half the lamers, or 2/3, and raise the average
[09:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	but ive never seen anyone try without becoming the lowest of the low
[09:21]	MinceR	04 100657 < highest_cubist_thrills> what do you think of social justice? 
[09:21]	MinceR	i don't know what it is
[09:21]	MinceR	i know what justice is, i don't know what "social" has to do with it
[09:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	social justice just means
[09:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	that the people who are getting fucked unfairly
[09:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	stop getting fucked unfairly
[09:22]	MinceR	04 101348 < highest_cubist_thrills> then he went home and back to using his mac.
[09:22]	MinceR	maybe he doesn't think science works either :>
[09:22]	MinceR	04 102226 < highest_cubist_thrills> stop getting fucked unfairly
[09:22]	MinceR	that's just plain justice
[09:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	maybe its like hate crimes
[09:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	you know murders murder, whether you do it out of racism or not
[09:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	but
[09:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	when its done for racist reasons
[09:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	a lot of times it gets overlooked
[09:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	so i think the idea of appending "social" is to say 
[09:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	very simply 
[09:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	"we are including the outliers that society tends to ignore"
[09:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean thats the IDEA
[09:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	and i think its more about class than anything
[09:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	but that overlaps with other things social justice talks about
[09:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	like i said-- thats the IDEA
[09:25]	MinceR	people hiding behind "social justice" talk about a lot of bullshit
[09:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	well thats the other thing
[09:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	come up with a good cause
[09:25]	MinceR	like how being racist and sexist in a different direction is going to fix racism and sexism
[09:25]	MinceR	or how renaming the master branch is going to fix racism
[09:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	and it will draw all kinds of scoundrels who want to wash themselves with it
[09:26]	MinceR	i missed the period when it wasn't all bullshit
[09:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	or how renaming the master branch is going to fix racism <- i mean thats as fucking stupid as anyone says it is
[09:26]	MinceR	did it even exist?
[09:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah, i think it did
[09:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats a question i ask myself a lot
[09:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	i really do think it did.
[09:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres some bullshit in everything, absolutely
[09:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	but... not like this.
[09:26]	MinceR	what was it like?
[09:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	lol
[09:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, ive met some famous people
[09:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	buzz aldrin. the guy that invented the strobe light (edgerton)
[09:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i nearly met stallman 
[09:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	this species has done some awesome shit
[09:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	free software
[09:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	has done some awesome shit
[09:28]	MinceR	and destroyed most of it
[09:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	coporations fucked it up
[09:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can promise you that much.
[09:28]	MinceR	and has done some horrible shit, which is largely still with us
[09:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	well, yeah
[09:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	we arent blameless
[09:28]	MinceR	corporations are people, my friend
[09:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	i participated, in however small a way
[09:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	in eichs takedown
[09:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	i learned from it
[09:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	it was a mistake
[09:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	it was really pretty fucking dumb
[09:29]	MinceR	i didn't participate in it, but i believe it was a good idea
[09:29]	MinceR	i was proven wrong about that
[09:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh?
[09:29]	MinceR	s/eve/eved/
[09:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	ahh
[09:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah
[09:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	we should try to avoid being pawns
[09:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	many who participated in that were pawns
[09:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	you can obviously say the same about the stallman takedown
[09:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres no awareness or repetence/remorse
[09:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	so
[09:31]	MinceR	yeah
[09:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not extending olive branches
[09:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	i do want as clear an understanding of what happened as i can get though
[09:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	i really like the wright brothers, as a story
[09:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	unless im mistaken, they really werent scientists
[09:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	but they acted just like scientists
[09:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	even when the scientists of the world refused to do so
[09:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	they took the very basics and turned that into something practical
[09:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont know shit about writing compilers. i know that
[09:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	but all i wanted was to design something that worked the way i wanted
[09:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	took code as input-- and generated code as output
[09:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	i made lots of useless toy versions
[09:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	and just one super-useful toy version
[09:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	and some even cooler versions i just dont need or use
[09:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the wright brothers made toy airplanes first
[09:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	not for fun, for science
[09:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	why build a full scale design when you can test a model first
[09:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	so they did, and they learned as they went
[09:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	if people ever rebuild the free software movement
[09:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	the more they know about the history, the better
[09:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	to avoid pitfalls where possible
[09:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	there wont be a perfect plan-- there never is
[09:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyll learn as they go-- people always do
[09:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	some preparation is very good
[09:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	but right now, its simply that no one gives a fuck
[09:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, close enouguh
[09:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	all the energy for making free software work
[09:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	has been absorbed by bullshit
[09:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	repurposed, redirected-- by bullshit
[09:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats what counterrevolution does
[09:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	free software is no longer the objective
[09:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	github, gnome, systemd 
[09:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	none of which are about freedom, are the objectives
[09:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	murdering stallman was an objective
[09:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	and hes dead
[09:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	stallman is not with us
[09:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres only whats left of him
[09:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its like that across the movement
[09:47]	psydruid	RIP Stallman, long live his corpse
[09:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not even a movement anymore
[09:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the latest angle ive found on this
[09:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	is that the womens movement has been through all the same shit
[09:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	some of that they did to themselves
[09:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	some of that was probably cia too
[09:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	probably
[09:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	either way, it happened
[09:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	did they get their shit together? yes and no
[09:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	otoh its a movement that still moves forward
[09:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	otoh, it still has all the problems we have 
[09:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	one difference is they have a LOT more people
[09:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	that helps, unless it makes it worse
[09:49]		*psydruid is watching another episode of Weekend at Stallman's
[09:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	honestly the movement is like a bad reality tv show at this point
[09:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	or the fyre festival
[09:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	lieplanet is a delusion
[09:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyve got nothing
[09:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	gnu is running on fumes
[09:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	nowhere to go
[09:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyre not going to fix it until they figure out just how dead it really is
[09:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats why ill never support roys cheerleading-- its bs too
[09:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, its ok to say "its not all hopeless"
[09:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	its bullshit to pretend shit is fine
[09:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	and flipflopping constantly isnt helpful either
[09:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	its always bad. its never hopeless. but its fucking close.
[09:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	you say its bad but not hopeless but close? hell, stallman (the real one) wasnt any different
[09:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	pessimist. never expected to succeed in the first place.
[09:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	was surprised by the level of success.
[09:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	i guess #stallmanwasright about that too
[09:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	at least he is now
[09:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	if someones ruining their life with alcohol a cheerleader who pretends things are ok isnt what they need
[09:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	this movement is drunk on bullshit and needs to go home and sober up
[09:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	it wont ofc
[09:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the scientific "community" was just as stupid about heavier-than-air flight
[09:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	it really was
[09:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	the airplane was invented without them
[09:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	someone may manage it
[09:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	idk
[09:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	its possible
[09:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	im pessimistic, but so was stallman
[09:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	it didnt stop him from trying
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[10:22]	TR News	annexation https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/03/novak-only-v4-president-to-not-sign-presidential-declaration-condemning-russian-annexation-of-ukrainian-territories | Source: Telex (Hungary)
[10:22]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-telex.hu | Telex: Novk only V4 president to not sign presidential declaration condemning Russian annexation of Ukrainian territories
[10:22]	TR News	Orbn https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/03/orban-this-is-the-beginning-of-cannibalism-in-europe | Source: Telex (Hungary)
[10:22]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-telex.hu | Telex: Orbn: This is the beginning of cannibalism in Europe
[10:40]	TR News	War https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/03/hedges-the-greatest-evil-is-war-excerpt-details-the-horrors-of-a-post-war-life/ | Source: Scheerpost
[10:40]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Hedges: 'The Greatest Evil is War' Excerpt Details the Horrors of a Post-War Life - scheerpost.com
[10:43]	scientes	Russia, the land where the moon shines brighter. :)
[10:43]	scientes	bit of an inside joke
[10:43]	scientes	-TechPolBot/#techpol- Hedges: 'The Greatest Evil is War' Excerpt Details the Horrors of a Post-War Life - scheerpost.com
[10:43]	scientes	who posts this garbage?
[10:44]	scientes	-TechPolBot/#techpol- telex.hu | Telex: Orbn: This is the beginning of cannibalism in Europe
[10:44]	scientes	this too
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[14:55]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/255686
[14:55]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-theins.press | Russian call-up found dead in a military unit in Omsk: a total of eight draftees have died since beginning of mobilization
[14:56]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/10/04/governor-of-russias-pskov-region-reports-large-queues-of-ukrainian-refugees-on-borders-with-latvia-and-estonia-news "Governor of Russias Pskov region reports large queues of Ukrainian refugees on borders with Latvia and Estonia"
[14:56]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-novayagazeta.eu | . 
[14:57]	XRevan86	https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/04/a78973
[14:57]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.themoscowtimes.com | Kremlin Hails Musks Attempt at Ukraine Peace Deal - The Moscow Times
[14:59]	XRevan86	CIT (Mobilisation in Russia): https://notes.citeam.org/mobi-oct-2-3 ( https://nitter.it/CITeam_en/status/1577281035359834114 )
[14:59]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-notes.citeam.org | Summary of mobilization in Russia for October 23 Teletype
[14:59]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-CIT (en) (@CITeam_en): "Russian mobilization, October 2-3: Moscow city tracks draft dodgers with facial recognition, pro-Putin bikers organize a pro-mobilization charity concert, some mobilized sue the military, others die, and others are trained in Ukraine within HIMARS range https://notes.citeam.org/mobi-oct-2-3"|nitter.it
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[15:24]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/255696
[15:24]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-theins.press | Navalny&#x27;s team relaunches its network of headquarters to fight Putin, the war, and mobilization
[15:25]	XRevan86	https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/04/a78971
[15:25]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.themoscowtimes.com | Russian Pop Legend Pugacheva Hits Back at Pro-War Critics - The Moscow Times
[15:25]	XRevan86	https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/04/a78976
[15:25]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.themoscowtimes.com | Russian Court Jails U.S. Citizen for Kicking Police Officer - The Moscow Times
[15:25]	XRevan86	scientes: Ye didn't kick any police officers, right?
[15:27]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/Belsat_Eng/status/1577194850315022337
[15:27]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Belsat in English (@Belsat_Eng): "The Supreme Lama of Kalmykia, Telo Tulku Rinpoche (Erdni Ambadykov), said that the truth in the war is on the side of Ukraine as it defends its land. This is the first public speech by a leader of religious tradition in Russia who unequivocally condemned Russian aggression."|nitter.it
[15:30]	XRevan86	https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/19559 ( https://nitter.it/Gerashchenko_en/status/1577258518910238723 )
[15:30]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-t.me | Telegram: Contact @pravdaGerashchenko_en
[15:30]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en): "Lukashenko promised yet again there will be no mobilization in Belarus. It's a good thing. It's better to harvest potatoes! But Ukrainian Army and Territorial Guards have been ready to defend Volyn and Rivnenshchina parts of Ukraine since spring."|nitter.it
[15:34]	XRevan86	https://eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/4/7148031/ "Lukashenko de Facto Acknowledges Belarus's Participation in Russia's War"
[15:34]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.eurointegration.com.ua | NO TITLE
[15:34]	XRevan86	https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/4/7370273/
[15:34]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.pravda.com.ua | Musk caught on the Kremlin?s ''nuclear fishing rod'' ? Defence Minister of Lithuania | Ukrainska Pravda
[15:34]	XRevan86	https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/10/4/7370293/
[15:34]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.pravda.com.ua | Zelenskyy approves National Security Council decision on impossibility of negotiations with Putin | Ukrainska Pravda
[15:35]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1577127951950192640#m
[15:35]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile in Russia: a host urged the citizens to exercise "internal censorship": not to read hostile media reporting and abstain from complaining, lest their comments end up being used by foreign networks like CNN. He also seems to be striking at the comments made by head of RT."|nitter.it
[15:40]	XRevan86	https://neuters.de/world/europe/polish-foreign-minister-signs-diplomatic-note-germany-ww2-reparations-2022-10-03/
[15:40]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | Polish foreign minister signs diplomatic note to Germany on WW2 reparations
[15:53]	frog	this is what Ukraine/Poland demand reparations for:
[15:54]	frog	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%931950)
[15:54]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Flight and expulsion of Germans (19441950) - Wikipedia
[15:55]	frog	and this doesn't include the red-terror era after WW1 (de-culacization etc.)
[15:56]	frog	"In 1950 the West German Government made a preliminary estimate of 3.0 million missing people", and that's the post WW2 to deportations only, excluding the WW1 one
[15:58]	frog	"missing people", missing, i know of only two of those "missing", which was the death mothers of two little boys when they were 12-14 years old at that time
[15:59]	XRevan86	Ugh.
● Oct 04
[16:00]	frog	yes, and another difference is this, my grandfathers didn't talk about it, and they didn't demand any reparations ever
[16:05]	frog	the problem nowadays is, they are dead already, and couldn't talk anymore.
[16:06]	frog	during family gatherings, it was my mother who whispered it, when i was too young still, telling me to remain calm
[16:07]	frog	the psychology being, i was the little boy at that time, with his mother, and it must have reminded them, of theirs.
[16:08]	frog	"In 1953 the West German government ordered a survey by the Suchdienst (search service) of the German churches to trace the fate of 16.2 million people"
[16:27]	frog	another problem, with the "reparations" argument, is, Poland and Ukraine as nation states, occupy territory without the mentioned german population remaining nowadays
[16:28]	frog	predating the modern nation state, those were mostly regions under _feudal_ ruling, which those nation states replaced
[16:28]	frog	nonetheless Poland and Ukraine refer to any  of their "nation" which didn't exist before
[16:29]	frog	and german population had been living in their territories for hundreds of years, or more (Hanseatic travellers, Anabaptist settlers called for by Katherine the great)
[16:30]	frog	meaning, germany didn't occupy territories, germans already did live there, and were threatened by what is nowadays known "bolshevist red-terror"
[16:31]	frog	and the bolshevist red-terror (de-culacization) wasn't ignited by germany to my knowledge
[16:34]	frog	btw. the writings of Alfred Rosenberg, are known for resembling what he studied as original in Russian language before, in 1910-20 already
[16:35]	frog	soviet union then, in 1950, insisted reparations between Poland/Ukraine and germany were settled once and for all
[16:36]	frog	besides, i don't consider myself "re-united" with what is supposed to be "germany" nowadays
[16:37]	frog	i hadn't reached age 18, and they implemented two "currency reforms" in east-germany already, expropriations, and transfer into KMPG managed "trust fund"
[16:38]	frog	which is yet another legal basis, to question, who ows anyone, because they already did expropriate, twice!
[16:38]	frog	after 1990.
[16:41]	frog	my grandmother said, once in Leipzig a relative had a bakery, no clue what happened to this, this was transferred into state-ownerhsip during times of east-germany already
[16:41]	frog	who knows, which "investors" "acquired" ownership of this, wouldn't at least know where this bakery was, somewhere in Lindenau/Leipzig
[16:42]	frog	shall i pay reparations for this too?
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[16:45]	psydroid3	https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/
[16:45]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.investopedia.com | Countries by GDP: The Top 25 Economies in the World
[16:46]	XRevan86	I have literally no idea why frog talks about Ukraine wanting reparations from Russia over this war as if Ukraine wants reparations from Germany.
[16:47]	frog	XRevan86: Poland/Ukraine utilize the pipelines to extort, this is the theory of it.
[16:48]	frog	and Nordstream too was established, to avoid political clash with Poland/Ukraine, with my limited understanding of this
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[17:28]	psydroid3	https://archive.ph/2qmsX
[17:28]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-archive.ph | In poor, rural Buryatia, Russia's partial mobilisation hits hard | Reuters
[17:29]	psydroid3	conveniently, that article isn't available on reuters.com anymore
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[18:55]	XRevan86	"conveniently, that article isn't available on reuters.com anymore" <- Um, https://neuters.de/world/europe/poor-rural-buryatia-russias-partial-mobilisation-hits-hard-2022-09-23/
[18:55]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | Russia's mobilization hits hard in poor, rural Buryatia
[18:56]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/255698
[18:56]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-theins.press | Protesters husband dies in Chechnya after having to beat up his wife and seeing their son off to war
[18:56]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/10/04/forbes-about-700000-people-leave-russia-since-mobilisation-started-news "Forbes: about 700,000 people leave Russia since mobilisation started"
[18:56]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-novayagazeta.eu | . 
[18:57]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1577332269232136195 https://youtu.be/dqMe7Cg2iOM
[18:57]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Witness a steady diet of upside-down propaganda fed to the Russians: head of RT claims the West is supposedly trying to "colonize & enslave" Russia and other countries. Without a hint of awareness, she unwittingly describes what Russia is doing to Ukraine and why Ukraine resists."|nitter.it
[18:57]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dqMe7Cg2iOM
[18:57]		-TechPolBot/#techpol--> invidious.namazso.eu | Head of RT claims the West wants to colonize and enslave Russia - Invidious
● Oct 04
[19:29]	psydroid3	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro-Atlantic_Partnership_Council
[19:29]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council - Wikipedia
● Oct 04
[20:26]	XRevan86	psydroid3: Does this organisation function?
[20:28]	psydroid3	XRevan86, I doubt it, as I only learned about it an hour ago
[20:28]	XRevan86	psydroid3: My thoughts exactly.
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[20:45]	frog	OK, finished one letter, with questions to the financial department, which amount of "Energy" i shall pay for at which price.
[20:45]	frog	It was written quickly, however it occupied me mentally for more than a week, as usual when bureaucratic insanity arrives on my desk.
[20:46]	frog	Meaning, all this causes uncompensated costs for occupying my attention, which isn't paid for either, as usual.
[20:48]	MinceR	https://nitter.it/ChrisO_wiki/status/1576849849626275846
[20:48]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-ChrisO (@ChrisO_wiki): "1/ Newly mobilised Russian troops need possibly thousands of dollars to buy everything from socks to bulletproof vests. But not to worry Russia's microcredit industry can help! "Called up? Need to equip? Not given anything? Not enough money for a first aid kit?""|nitter.it
[20:48]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1577369748517568522 https://youtu.be/7BCZy4iM-r0
[20:48]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Top pro-Kremlin propagandist is despondent because of Russia's defeats in Ukraine. He refuses to be cheered up even by Elon Musk's insertion into the timeline of propaganda. Solovyov advocates for the restoration of the death penalty, because people refuse to shoot themselves."|nitter.it
[20:48]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=7BCZy4iM-r0
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[20:49]	frog	At least the questions and reporting are precisely phrased. Government already debates another record bail-out, which is for almost no energy consumed, demanding 1800Euro/year accounted on my bill.
[20:50]	frog	Too i notified them, i will conduct my _own_ measurements and calculations, at the war-water metering, to estimate the REAL price of cents/kWh.
[20:50]	frog	although, i would be curious in advance, what they think the "energy" price was supposed to be.
[20:52]	frog	This year, i'll still estimate roughly 8 cubic meters of warm water and zero heating total. It's not at least clear yet, how much money they demand for this with the next bill.
[20:53]	XRevan86	https://en.zona.media/article/2022/10/04/broke
[20:53]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-en.zona.media | Go for broke. One Russian man went to war to make money and ended up spending all his savings trying to survive
[20:53]	frog	and then, i have to survive this another 12month, to estimate the real prize, with daily verification of the warm-water metering (which i suspect was fraudulent too)
[20:53]	XRevan86	MinceR: ^ Ties to what ye posted.
[20:54]	frog	what will it be? 4cubic meters warm water 1000Euros, 2000Euros? i'll know March 2025, which is when the bill for the next seasons arrives.
[20:54]	frog	if at all i'll survive until then.
[20:56]	frog	too i ask the financial department in advance, how much i shall pay for zero consumption, and what those 30% basic fee were supposed to be.
[20:57]	MinceR	:>
[20:57]	frog	and i haven't got an updated electricity bill yet, although i did turn off dish-washer, washing machine, and too the fridge is disconnected 6month/year.
[20:58]	frog	i still got a 5Watt LED lightning, a tiny ARM SBC 5Watts, a computer screen at lowest brightness, that's it mainly.... looking forward to the "energy" bill for this
[20:58]	frog	that's too why i am angry, seeing what i save in 12 month, is wasted in a few minutes with the luxury vehicles of those many "poor" immigrants here.
[20:58]	frog	that's another twist.
[20:59]	frog	because my energy consumption is insignificant. it's no more than driving a vehicle 50miles per year or something at that scale.
● Oct 04
[21:00]	frog	and for this, how much next, "heating" 1800Euros and "electricity" another 500Euros?
[21:01]	XRevan86	https://neuters.de/business/energy/drone-activity-reported-near-north-sea-gas-field-danish-police-say-2022-10-04/
[21:01]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | Drone activity reported near North Sea gas field, Danish police say
[21:02]	frog	btw, found someting, LNG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_to_liquids
[21:02]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Gas to liquids - Wikipedia
[21:03]	frog	however, that's a different process to typical refining, meaning with this short-chained hydro-carbons (CH4) are transformed into longer-chained ones
[21:04]	frog	typically, long-chained carbons are fractured into short-chained ones, one of the most interesting ones being Brown coal refined into petroleum
[21:05]	frog	Buna-factory, east-germany did it, to produce Kerosine for soviet aircraft (from brown coal, imagine this)
[21:06]	frog	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_German_Chemical_Triangle
[21:06]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-en.wikipedia.org | Middle German Chemical Triangle - Wikipedia
[21:06]	frog	there was the Buna factory, and the Leuna factory, and the "Schwarze Pumpe" black pump, close nearby my hometown
[21:06]	frog	the most heavily polluted place on earth, until 1990
[21:07]	frog	anyway, LNG/CH4 as the chemical energy carrier has many advantages over brown-coal petro-chemistriy
[21:08]	frog	i am still curious, if the nuclear energy-to-gas process is the relevant one, or how else Russia produces all this LNG
[21:08]	scientes	frog, change your name to "gay"
[21:08]	frog	meaning, the entire "fossil" fuel can be replaced with nuclear-powered methane gas synthesis
[21:08]	XRevan86	scientes turns freaking frogs gay.
[21:09]	scientes	woah, somebody pulled the stop crank
[21:09]	MinceR	"i'm gonna say it real slow for you: gaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy. fffffffffffrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooggggggggggsssssssssssss!"
[21:10]	frog	anyway, that's why it is irelevant, if USA imported russian Oil or Russian LNG while demanding sanctions of energy imports into EU, it's not identical, it is EQUIVALENT if USA imports russian Oil or Russian LNG
[21:10]	XRevan86	scientes: Still on a train?
[21:10]	scientes	MinceR, XRevan86 the difference is that XRevan86 knows what he is talking about
[21:11]	MinceR	"i'm on a train / i'm on a train / everybody look at me, 'cause i'm riding on a train!"
[21:11]	XRevan86	I'd say "yea!" but I don't know what scientes is talking about :D
[21:11]	MinceR	i don't think anyone knows what scientes is talking about
[21:11]	MinceR	"i'm on a train / i'm on a train / take a good, hard look at the motherfucking train, yeah"
[21:12]	XRevan86	https://youtu.be/MTAaosUQqPY appropriate?
[21:12]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=MTAaosUQqPY
[21:13]		-TechPolBot/#techpol--> inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Major Payne (Little Engine That Could Scene) - Invidious
[21:13]	MinceR	i was thinking more of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM
[21:13]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM
[21:13]		-TechPolBot/#techpol--> y.com.sb | The Lonely Island - I'm On A Boat (Explicit Version) ft. T-Pain (Official Video) - Invidious
[21:13]	MinceR	or even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86PdIKMA5Nk
[21:13]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-@Invidious: https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=86PdIKMA5Nk
[21:13]		-TechPolBot/#techpol--> yt.artemislena.eu | I'm On A Blimp (ft. Teddy) - EXPLICIT LYRICS - Invidious
[21:14]	frog	minor mistake, an energy bill which i can verify with 100% certainty will be available march 2024, after another year of "heating" with void-null-none-energy
[21:14]	scientes	XRevan86, the biology of frogs
[21:14]	XRevan86	scientes: ah
[21:15]	scientes	XRevan86, frogs can be made gay just by putting them in warm water
[21:15]	scientes	so yes, I am perfectly capable of turning frogs gay
[21:15]	frog	male frogs got testicles, so what?
[21:15]	frog	gay=gail=testicle, thats the translation
[21:16]	frog	so what?
[21:27]	XRevan86	https://neuters.de/world/nato-seen-no-changes-russias-nuclear-posture-alliance-official-says-2022-10-04/
[21:27]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-neuters.de | NATO seen no changes in Russia's nuclear posture, alliance official says
[21:28]	XRevan86	Does that mean La Repubblica lied or what?
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[22:13]	XRevan86	> CIT (War in Ukraine): https://notes.citeam.org/sitrep-oct-3-4 ( https://nitter.it/CITeam_en/status/1577388111889371137 )
[22:13]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-notes.citeam.org | Sitrep for October 3-4 (as of 16:30) Teletype
[22:13]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-CIT (en) (@CITeam_en): "Oct 3-4 sitrep: Russian front close to collapse in Kherson as Ukrainians push further east in Luhansk; Another Russian command shakeup conformed; Chechen leader Kadyrov sends his own children to Ukraine as child (TikTok) soldiers https://notes.citeam.org/sitrep-oct-3-4"|nitter.it
[22:26]	frog	anti-spiegel consideres a relevant factor to the military defeat being, russian military didn't intend to escalate with civilians involved
[22:27]	XRevan86	frog: It's a now old propaganda narrative used to explain the lack of progress.
[22:27]	frog	and much of the military capabilities of russia withheld from the conflict
[22:28]	frog	XRevan86: even if it was propaganda, it's the "white" variant of it, meaning it may be true, even when it's propaganda
[22:28]	XRevan86	Russian military killed civilians since day 1 routinely.
[22:28]	XRevan86	frog: It's not.
[22:29]	frog	can't believe it
[22:29]	XRevan86	frog: It's because ye are not paying attention.
[22:30]	frog	no, it's because this isn't what i thought russia was
[22:30]	XRevan86	Cognitive dissonance is not going to warp reality and make the Russian military into saints.
[22:31]	frog	anyway, russian military retreats, isn't it? and Zelenskij takes pride for this.
[22:32]	XRevan86	It does.
[22:35]	XRevan86	frog: Just yesterday we saw that the Russian army, when retreating from Lyman, got orders to not give any heads up to the Luhansk region mobilised and just leave them there to die when defending Lyman with nothing more than guns.
[22:37]	XRevan86	frog: And do ye remember when I posted what the PMC Wagner said after the massive Kharkiv region retreat? That they were shooting missiles at civilian targets to have something to report?
[22:38]	XRevan86	I bring these cases up specifically because it's the pro-Russian saying these things.
[22:39]	XRevan86	* pro-Russian side
[22:39]	XRevan86	frog: And your not knowing any of this means that ye are not paying attention.
[22:41]	XRevan86	And I'm not at all surprised that Rper uses propaganda arguments that are intended for the widest most ignorant audience.
[22:41]	XRevan86	Russian propaganda is more diverse than ye would think, and the people closer to the front would not have dared to say something as stupid as that.
[22:42]	frog	XRevan86: would you prefer if Roeper softened and altered the Russian/Kremlin citation?
[22:43]	frog	he clearly says, he represents the Russian perspective from Kremlin, and so far i have little reasons to doubt he does.
[22:43]	XRevan86	frog: I would have preferred if he'd be honest with his reader for a change.
[22:44]	XRevan86	frog: If he'd add a banner saying "This is satire" like on The Onion or IA Panorama, I wouldn't complain about him.
[22:45]	XRevan86	The Onion's lying but they're being honest about it.
[22:45]	frog	maybe you underestimate the audience of his channel, which is considered "radical opposition"
[22:45]	XRevan86	frog: No, I don't think I do.
[22:47]	XRevan86	If he's using the variant of the Russian propaganda that's intended for the illiterate masses, then that's what the audience of his channel is.
[22:48]	MinceR	the onion is also funny
[22:49]	XRevan86	And IA Panorama has been prophetic on a few occasions.
[22:50]	XRevan86	Russian reality has merged with Poe's Law.
[22:51]	XRevan86	https://panorama.pub/ It's a Russian The Onion pretty much.
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● Oct 04
[23:04]	XRevan86	Oh, I just remembered, when that idea was voiced, that Russia's not attacking civilians and losing because of this, the other thing was that from now on Russia's attacking critical infrastructure and now it's serious.
[23:05]	XRevan86	frog: Remember that?
[23:05]	XRevan86	So Russia's attacked some critical infrastructure now, and still losing.
[23:06]	XRevan86	Turned out, terror on the civilian population doesn't have a military advantage.
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[23:18]	frog	XRevan86: of cause i had seen the images, of some old Mosquitch vehicles fired at with bullets, and soviet housings burned. Housings which were deconstructed in east-germany, without artillery btw.
[23:19]	frog	some damaged bridges, which may had been insufficiently stable for heavy tanks to tresspass.
[23:20]	XRevan86	"Housings which were deconstructed in east-germany, without artillery btw" <- Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
[23:21]	frog	got that, i put the reported damage into perspective, in east germany millions of old wartburg and trabant vehicles were removed from the streets, and milions of former soviet housings deconstructed
[23:21]	frog	XRevan86: millions of east-germans left their homes, and many heavy industry facilities closed
[23:21]	frog	although, this was accomplished without heavy tanks shooting grenades, and a media spectacle orchestrated
[23:22]	XRevan86	Were they sad or happy about it?
[23:22]	frog	meaning, i wouldn't know what this is, in TV and newspapers here
[23:22]	frog	XRevan86: there was a few years, when air quality and living standards improved, and then rapidly declined again
[23:22]	frog	since you asked me, this is my memories
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[23:25]	XRevan86	https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://panorama.pub/news/gosduma-vvela-v-grazdanskij-kodeks "The State Duma introduced the concept of a "nuclear pop" into the Civil Code"
[23:25]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-panorama-pub.translate.goog | 
[23:25]	XRevan86	This is peak comedy.
[23:25]	frog	too i remember other conflict regions, which were rebuilt after russian intervention, had not visited those (transnistria, chechenya)
[23:26]	frog	in Ukraine, for example, they had severe issues with their infrastructure, still have, which caused excess energy/gas consumption
[23:26]	XRevan86	frog: I meant if ye remember the reporting from a month ago, not your life memories
[23:26]	frog	the heating installations in Ukraine had no thermostat regulator, hence Ukraine had the highest gas/energy consumption per capita, globally!
[23:27]	frog	this was some report i read, and it's not an easy task, to modernize all the living quarters
[23:27]	frog	and if many people left their homes, a similar problem east-germany had, then many of the housings maybe were designated for deconstruction
[23:27]	frog	this is what they did in east-germany, including dismantling of the industry
[23:28]	frog	so, what i am saying is, this whole "special operation" follows along some agenda, which i think no military escalation was necessary for
[23:29]	XRevan86	frog: So your new idea is that the war was orchestrated so that Russian artillery would destroy every Soviet-built building in Ukraine?
[23:30]	frog	didn't say this, i said east-germany deconstructed old industry and housings without artillery
[23:36]	frog	too i remember Zelenskij and his plans for bitcoin business in Ukraine, which was another peculiar detail, with this comedian, and the energy consumption in Ukraine
[23:37]	frog	meanwhile we recorded one record summer heat seasons after another in germany
[23:37]	MinceR	05 002509 < XRevan86> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://panorama.pub/news/gosduma-vvela-v-grazdanskij-kodeks "The State Duma introduced the concept of a "nuclear pop" into the Civil Code"
[23:37]	MinceR	Nuka-Cola!
[23:39]	frog	this year, temperatures in autumn were reported being 6degC too low in germany, all of the sudden, "climate-change" altered it's trend down
[23:40]	XRevan86	frog: "and his plans for bitcoin business" <- Look at Kazakhstan then, which does have mining business.
[23:40]	frog	that's no joke, and this seems to confirm another "theory" of mine, the temperature anomalies aren't a long-term effect of CO2
[23:40]	frog	i know little to nothing about kazakhstan, except for some conflict there which was reported, too related to energy prices
[23:42]	frog	anyway, that's why, my energy-bill calculation, with the war-water metering here and the prices i am _forced_ to pay, is relevant
[23:43]	frog	remember this, as a rough estimate, 8cubic meters warm water, projected to be billed with 1800Euro/year, according to the recent letter i received
[23:45]	MinceR	what would a ruscist be without global warming denialism?
[23:46]	frog	i didn't deny global heating, never. i always said this: the temperature anomalies are WORSE, MUCH WORSE than the reported 2degC
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[23:46]	frog	and too i said, it's not a long-term related CO2 trend, it's an aggregate of temperature anomalies caused by heat exposure
[23:47]	frog	meaning, cities emit that much heat, it's moot to place a thermometer nearby a heater and wondering why it's hot
[23:47]	frog	that's why, temperatures in Bavarian Forest are signifcantly loewr than in city of munich a few dozen kilometers away
[23:48]	frog	and if heat-emission is reduced, global heating trend drops sharply, and quickly, not slowly
[23:48]	frog	that's my hypothesis
[23:48]	frog	and the CO2 anomalies measured too are far more concerning than the related temperature anomalies, because those do indicate a severe phytoplancton decline in the oceans and forest cut down
[23:48]	XRevan86	frog: https://youtu.be/NF4K41pLAhM?t=278 This was said after the successful Ukrainian counter-offensive in the Kharkiv region (the first one).
[23:48]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-www.youtube.com | NO TITLE
[23:49]	XRevan86	Russian TV narrative
[23:49]	frog	and another argument of mine was, the Methane (CH4) anomaly, +300% in the atmosphere is far more severe than CO2 +30%
[23:49]	frog	too i say, the entire "climate change" propaganda rubbish is orchestrated and spin doctored by the petroleum industry itself
[23:50]	frog	because they distract from CH4 anomalies for example, with the argument it was farting cows instead of methane blow-outs
[23:51]	XRevan86	frog: So apparently Rper brought this argument *after* Russia's tried that "hitting critical infrastucture" thing.
[23:53]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/christogrozev/status/1577371370547200008
[23:53]		-TechPolBot/#techpol-Christo Grozev (@christogrozev): ""|nitter.it
[23:53]	XRevan86	Some good news from PMC Wagner.
[23:53]	frog	XRevan86: please remember i cannot view sites which require javascript
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[23:54]	XRevan86	frog: Use yt-dlp?
[23:55]	frog	not anymore, something SSL-related in python-3.8 broke with a recent yt-dlp updated
[23:55]	frog	and i don't bother anymore with this
[23:56]	frog	and you seem to misunderstand me, i don't defend Roeper, i consider him citing official Russian/Kremlin reporting authentically, in german language
[23:56]	frog	and his site is the only one i know which does, without youtube required
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