●● IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, December 05, 2021 ●● ● Dec 05 [00:14] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@f9g3zbtpuq9yg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [00:15] *altlink_d74 has quit (connection closed) [00:15] *altlink_03f (~altlink_03f@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [00:25] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/at2rty/status/1467268788366323712#m [00:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-nitter.eu | bremont Alfredo (@at2rty): "youtu.be/XyiT5um8kWY" | nitter [00:26] techrights-news #Steam support for #Chromebooks could surface this week https://chromeunboxed.com/steam-support-for-chromebooks-could-surface-this-week/ #chromeunboxed [00:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-chromeunboxed.com | Steam support for Chromebooks could surface this week [00:27] techrights-news #cat https://i.imgur.com/96ijixX.jpeg [00:27] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/96ijixX.jpeg [00:28] techrights-news "This project began when [Gino]s son spotted the body of a 1943 Douglas R4D military transport aircraft." "https://hackaday.com/2021/12/04/abandoned-airplane-takes-off-again-as-luxury-rv/ [00:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Abandoned Airplane Takes Off Again As Luxury RV | Hackaday [00:28] techrights-news Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Monopsony https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/monopsony #smbccomics #smbc [00:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Monopsony [00:29] techrights-news Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fortune https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fortune-2 #smbccomics #smbc [00:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fortune [00:29] techrights-news #PandoraPapers : How journalists mined terabytes of offshore data to expose the worlds elites https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252510313/Pandora-Papers-How-journalists-mined-terabytes-of-offshore-data-to-expose-the-worlds-elites [00:29] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: computerweekly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252510313/Pandora-Papers-How-journalists-mined-terabytes-of-offshore-data-to-expose-the-worlds-elites [00:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.computerweekly.com | Pandora Papers: How journalists mined terabytes of offshore data to expose the worlds elites [00:30] techrights-news The advice here it poor; operating systems with back doors are not secure and the solution isn't in them but outside them, and not AV #snakeoil https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/still-paying-antivirus-software-experts-say-probably-dont-need-rcna6335 [00:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nbcnews.com | Still paying for antivirus software? Experts say you probably don't need it [00:30] techrights-news Wild Boys Dont Stop Being Wild Because Theyre Online https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/11/22/funny-madlad-pics-11-22-21/ #pleatedjeans [00:30] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/11/22/funny-madlad-pics-11-22-21/ [00:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-pleated-jeans.com | Wild Boys Don't Stop Being Wild Because They're Online [00:32] techrights-news #cats https://i.redd.it/hz5bg8r92m181.png [00:32] techrights-news #India known as internet shutdown capital of the world - The Federal https://thefederal.com/news/india-known-as-internet-shutdown-capital-of-the-world/ #thefederal #Internetshutdown [00:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-thefederal.com | India known as internet shutdown capital of the world - The Federal [00:36] techrights-news #mancity back at the top https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Up5AhnlaY #football #watford [00:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Divock Origi scores LAST-GASP winner! | Wolves 0-1 Liverpool | Premier League Highlights - YouTube [00:36] techrights-news Technologys Role in Society: Its Complicated https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/12/technologys-role-in-society-its-complicated.html #ibm #iwb #techfascism [00:36] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: irvingwb.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/12/technologys-role-in-society-its-complicated.html [00:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Technologys Role in Society: Its Complicated [00:38] techrights-news Missing N https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/funny-pictures-11-22-21-23.jpg [00:38] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/funny-pictures-11-22-21-23.jpg [00:39] techrights-news Finally, A Use For Old Cellphones | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/04/finally-a-use-for-old-cellphones/ #hackaday (and #gnu #linux is big here; #apple DOES NOT care about such things) [00:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Finally, A Use For Old Cellphones | Hackaday [00:40] techrights-news #gnu #linux inside https://hackaday.com/2021/12/03/wake-up-robot-does-it-gently/ [00:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Wake-Up Robot Does It Gently | Hackaday [00:40] techrights-news #Sony vs the #internet https://dwaves.de/2021/12/04/sony-vs-the-internet-in-this-case-dns-resolvers/ [00:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Sony vs the internet (in this case dns resolvers) | dwaves.de [00:47] techrights-news "Arch and other rolling releases don't break often but when they do rolling releases often times come with challenges that aren't faced by fix point releases." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EVGLjphtUmA #gnu #linux [00:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Common Ways Arch Linux & Rolling Releases Break - Invidious [00:47] techrights-news "Wanna get your own Linux server?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=An4X9E9vyn8 #gnu #linux [00:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Linux is only free if you don't value your time - Is it still true? - Invidious [00:49] techrights-news #israel a creepy, scary place. Now they plan to tax/fine people who reject #surveillance devices inside their cars (probably #lobbying by pushers of this). https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/encourage-installation-of-new-safety-systems-in-cars-expert-tells-transport-minister-687342 #spying #orwell (like with their COVID-19 policy) [00:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 403 @ https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/encourage-installation-of-new-safety-systems-in-cars-expert-tells-transport-minister-687342 ) [00:49] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: jpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/encourage-installation-of-new-safety-systems-in-cars-expert-tells-transport-minister-687342 [00:49] techrights-news "smarter construction" = spying (on workers etc. construction https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/single-platform-technology-the-future-of-smarter-construction #spying #orwell #surveillance [00:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theconstructionindex.co.uk | Single platform technology the future of smarter construction [00:50] techrights-news More #surveillance sold as "smart" https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2021/11/09/sinar-mas-land-mitbana-to-introduce-smart-mobility-solution-for-bsd-city.html [00:50] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: thejakartapost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2021/11/09/sinar-mas-land-mitbana-to-introduce-smart-mobility-solution-for-bsd-city.html [00:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thejakartapost.com | Sinar Mas Land-Mitbana to introduce smart mobility solution for BSD City - Business - The Jakarta Post [00:51] techrights-news Those are NOT free; you are being TRAINED to work towards #espionage for a foreign firm that destroys your country. Doing a disservice to yourself and those around you. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/why-online-tech-courses-are-going-free/articleshow/87887312.cms see http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ [00:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Why online tech courses are going free - Times of India [00:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights [00:52] techrights-news #watchtroll says " #CAFC Ruling that Biogens MS Drug #Patent is Invalid..." More #fakepatents then. #uspto [00:53] techrights-news Refusing To Use Programs Written In Python - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TYiRI_HtLIk #video #invidious #python #programming #code [00:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Refusing To Use Programs Written In Python - Invidious [00:54] techrights-news #apple not secure https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/04/american_diplomats_nso/ #israel #espionage #backdoors #bugdoors [00:54] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/04/american_diplomats_nso/ [00:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theregister.com | American diplomats' iPhones reportedly compromised by NSO Group intrusion software The Register [00:55] techrights-news "Choosing the best #programming language for your web development project is a critical task. An excellent choice facilitates rapid project development and helps your development team integrate essential features with lesser efforts." https://www.analyticsinsight.net/best-programming-languages-for-web-development/ [00:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.analyticsinsight.net | Best Programming Languages for Web Development [00:56] techrights-news #epo #patents on #food https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/darling-ingredients-rousselot-health-brand-obtains-a-granted-patent-from-the-european-patent-office-for-its-simogel-solution-301436437.html [00:56] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/darling-ingredients-rousselot-health-brand-obtains-a-granted-patent-from-the-european-patent-office-for-its-simogel-solution-301436437.html [00:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.prnewswire.com | Darling Ingredients' Rousselot Health Brand Obtains A Granted Patent from the European Patent Office for its SiMoGel Solution [00:56] techrights-news "Margaret Llewelyn, Honorary Professor of [ #patents ] #Law at the University of Sheffield, best known as one of the foremost experts on #plant breeders rights and #patent law, passed away on 2 November 2021." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/obituary-professor-margaret-sophia-moy.html [00:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Obituary - Professor Margaret Sophia Moy Llewelyn (1962-2021) - The IPKat [00:57] techrights-news Gourmet https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/memes-of-the-week-12-3-21-6.jpeg [00:57] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/memes-of-the-week-12-3-21-6.jpeg [00:57] techrights-news This Enlarged Board of Appeal which #MarksClerk speaks of is criminally rigged, but they don't want to tell their clients that; they profit from the abuse https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=bb14d227-9172-4f9e-b2e8-9936fbfd699d see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [00:57] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: lexology.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=bb14d227-9172-4f9e-b2e8-9936fbfd699d [00:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-M&C Reacts: EPO stays examination and oppositions where plausibility is in issue - Lexology [00:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [00:58] techrights-news Isn't is incredible that this convicted corrupt firm, #MarksClerk , finds plenty of time for #EPO puff pieces and never writes about the EPO's crimes, including the rigging of the legal process itself? https://www.marks-clerk.com/insights/new-requirements-affecting-epo-applicants-claiming-priority-from-chinese-korean-us-patent-applications/ [00:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.marks-clerk.com | New requirements affecting EPO applicants claiming priority from Chinese, Korean & US patent applications ● Dec 05 [01:01] techrights-news 178: Blender 3.0, EndeavourOS, CentOS Stream 9, Steam Deck, NixOS, CrossOver | This Week in Linux https://tuxdigital.com/2021/12/thisweekinlinux-178/ #thisweekinlinux #gnu #linux [01:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-178: Blender 3.0, EndeavourOS, CentOS Stream 9, Steam Deck, NixOS, CrossOver | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [01:01] techrights-news #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158740 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:02] techrights-news New Videos: Python Hate, Learning GNU/Linux, and Common Ways Arch Linux & Rolling Releases Break Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158738 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | New Videos: Python Hate, Learning GNU/Linux, and Common Ways Arch Linux & Rolling Releases Break | Tux Machines [01:02] techrights-news #FreeSoftware : #WordPress , #Strapi , Mentors, and Firmware Conference 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158739 #TuxMachines #freesw [01:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software: WordPress, Strapi, Mentors, and Firmware Conference 2021 | Tux Machines [01:04] techrights-news #Windows Vs #GNULinux : 7 Reasons To Switch To Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158737 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows Vs Linux: 7 Reasons To Switch To Linux | Tux Machines [01:05] techrights-news #Intel : Cloud-Hypervisor, Graphics, and Scheduling Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158736 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel: Cloud-Hypervisor, Graphics, and Scheduling | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-news Hot not-Spot-bot spot: The code behind Xiaomi's CyberDog? #Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158597#comment-31975 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Xiaomi's CyberDog Robot Runs Ubuntu | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-news #OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158735 #GNU #Linux #Arduino #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:10] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158733 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:13] techrights-news Barrys Latest Progress With #EasyOS Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158734 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Barry's Latest Progress With EasyOS Development | Tux Machines [01:14] techrights-news Memes https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/memes-of-the-week-12-3-21-15.jpg [01:14] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/memes-of-the-week-12-3-21-15.jpg [01:20] techrights-news #Blender3d 3.0 Released! How to Install it in Ubuntu via Linux Tarball http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158680#comment-31972 [01:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 3.0 Released as a Massive Update with Many New Features and Improvements | Tux Machines [01:22] techrights-news #Valve says #DayZ and five other games are now anti-cheat ready for Linux (and Steam Deck) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158726 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve says DayZ and five other games are now anti-cheat ready for Linux (and Steam Deck) | Tux Machines [01:22] techrights-news What Is Apt-Get In Linux? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158727 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is Apt-Get In Linux? | Tux Machines [01:24] techrights-news #IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 162 is available for testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158728 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 162 is available for testing | Tux Machines [01:26] techrights-news Best #FreeSW Alternatives to #Corel DVD Copy Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158729 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Corel DVD Copy | Tux Machines [01:26] techrights-news #GenodeOS Framework release 21.11 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158730 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Genode OS Framework release 21.11 | Tux Machines [01:33] techrights-news #Pango updates Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158731 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Pango updates | Tux Machines [01:34] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158732 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:41] techrights-news #git @ Techrights: Approaching 100 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/approaching-100/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/approaching-100/ [01:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Approaching 100 | Techrights [01:48] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158741 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:48] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158742 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:54] techrights-news #TuxMachines is 17.5 Years Old Today Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ [01:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Tux Machines is 17.5 Years Old Today | Techrights [01:58] techrights-news Links 4/12/2021: IPFire 2.27 Core Update 162 and #GenodeOS Framework 21.11 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/genode-os-framework-21-11/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/genode-os-framework-21-11/ [01:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 4/12/2021: IPFire 2.27 Core Update 162 and Genode OS Framework 21.11 | Techrights ● Dec 05 [02:00] techrights-news Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158743 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [02:00] techrights-news Improving Gemini by Posting IRC Logs (and Scrollback) as #GemText Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/irc-as-gemtext/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/irc-as-gemtext/ [02:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Improving Gemini by Posting IRC Logs (and Scrollback) as GemText | Techrights [02:10] techrights-news #EPO -Bribed #IAM Media Has Praised Quality, Which Even EPO Staff (Examiners) Does Not Praise Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/epo-run-by-suits/ #Techrights #patents #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/epo-run-by-suits/ [02:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | EPO-Bribed IAM Media Has Praised Quality, Which Even EPO Staff (Examiners) Does Not Praise | Techrights [02:13] techrights-news #TuxMachines our sister site for GNU/Linux news started in 2004. Were soon entering 2022. Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ [02:14] techrights-news Well soon have 100 files in #Git ; if that matters at all Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/approaching-100/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/approaching-100/ [02:14] techrights-news Our adoption of Gemini and of #GemText increases; with nearly 100,000 page requests in the first 3 days of December (over gemini://) its clear that the growing potential of the protocol is realised, hence the rapid growth too Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/irc-as-gemtext/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/irc-as-gemtext/ [02:31] techrights-news boycottnovell irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-041221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-041221.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-041221.txt [02:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, December 04, 2021 [02:45] techrights-news Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-12-04.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-12-04.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) ● Dec 05 [04:15] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Dec 05 [06:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Dec 05 [07:21] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, December 04, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [07:21] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:24] techrights-news #EndeavourOS 21.4 Review [Atlantis] - Pure Arch Linux Experience for You Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158744 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | EndeavourOS 21.4 Review [Atlantis] - Pure Arch Linux Experience for You | Tux Machines [07:26] techrights-news Its easy to see something is terribly wrong when the people who do the actual work do not agree with the medias praise of their work (a praise motivated by a nefarious, alternate agenda) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/epo-run-by-suits/ #Techrights #EPO #europe #patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/epo-run-by-suits/ [07:29] techrights-news NEWS #MonitorUG Suspected jihadists kill at least 30 in central #Mali https://www.monitor.co.ug/uganda/news/suspected-jihadists-kill-at-least-30-in-central-mali-3641650 [07:29] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: monitor.co.ug | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.monitor.co.ug/uganda/news/suspected-jihadists-kill-at-least-30-in-central-mali-3641650 [07:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.monitor.co.ug | Suspected jihadists kill at least 30 in central Mali | Monitor [07:29] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #PropellerAds Rebuts MPA's 'Libelous' Allegations https://torrentfreak.com/propellerads-rebuts-mpas-libelous-piracy-allegations-211204/ [07:29] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/propellerads-rebuts-mpas-libelous-piracy-allegations-211204/ [07:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-PropellerAds Rebuts MPA's 'Libelous' Piracy Allegations * TorrentFreak [07:32] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Politics Opinion | With the Failure of Politics, People Are Waking Up to the Realization That They Have a World to Win https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/failure-politics-people-are-waking-realization-they-have-world-win [07:32] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/failure-politics-people-are-waking-realization-they-have-world-win [07:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | With the Failure of Politics, People Are Waking Up to the Realization That They Have a World to Win | C.J. Polychroniou [07:33] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Finance #Inflation Is Bad for Those Who Profit From Your Mortgage Debt and Student Loans https://truthout.org/audio/inflation-is-bad-for-those-who-profit-from-your-mortgage-debt-and-student-loans/ [07:33] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/audio/inflation-is-bad-for-those-who-profit-from-your-mortgage-debt-and-student-loans/ [07:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Inflation Is Bad for Those Who Profit From Your Mortgage Debt and Student Loans [07:48] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #israel #nsogroup #Spyware Created by Israeli Firm Used to Hack US Officials' iPhones https://truthout.org/articles/spyware-created-by-israeli-firm-used-to-hack-u-s-officials-iphones/ [07:48] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/spyware-created-by-israeli-firm-used-to-hack-u-s-officials-iphones/ [07:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Spyware Created by Israeli Firm Used to Hack US Officials' iPhones [07:48] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #billgates #monopolies Opinion | From AIDS to Omicron, Pharmaceutical Apartheid Hurts Us All https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/aids-omicron-pharmaceutical-apartheid-hurts-us-all [07:48] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/aids-omicron-pharmaceutical-apartheid-hurts-us-all [07:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | From AIDS to Omicron, Pharmaceutical Apartheid Hurts Us All | Amy Goodman [07:49] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams Human Rights Defenders Warn #DonaldBiden Border Policy 'Quickly Transforming Into Trump 2.0' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/04/human-rights-defenders-warn-biden-border-policy-quickly-transforming-trump-20 [07:49] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/04/human-rights-defenders-warn-biden-border-policy-quickly-transforming-trump-20 [07:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Human Rights Defenders Warn Biden Border Policy 'Quickly Transforming Into Trump 2.0' ● Dec 05 [08:00] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #MLB If MLB Thought Its Website Shananigans Would Intimidate MLB Players, That Plan Has Backfired https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211203/09370748046/if-mlb-thought-website-shananigans-would-intimidate-mlb-players-that-plan-has-backfired.shtml [08:00] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211203/09370748046/if-mlb-thought-website-shananigans-would-intimidate-mlb-players-that-plan-has-backfired.shtml [08:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-If MLB Thought Its Website Shananigans Would Intimidate MLB Players, That Plan Has Backfired | Techdirt [08:00] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams 'Congress Must Act': Bernie #Sanders Demands End of Filibuster to Codify #Abortion Rights https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/04/congress-must-act-bernie-sanders-demands-end-filibuster-codify-abortion-rights [08:00] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/04/congress-must-act-bernie-sanders-demands-end-filibuster-codify-abortion-rights [08:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Congress Must Act': Bernie Sanders Demands End of Filibuster to Codify Abortion Rights [08:01] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut Major Union Passes Historic Reform for Democracy Years After Corruption Scandal https://truthout.org/articles/major-union-passes-historic-reform-for-democracy-years-after-corruption-scandal/ [08:01] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/major-union-passes-historic-reform-for-democracy-years-after-corruption-scandal/ [08:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Major Union Passes Historic Reform for Democracy Years After Corruption Scandal [08:03] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams Opinion | Building the Global Movement https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/building-global-movement [08:03] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/building-global-movement [08:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Building the Global Movement | Ben Manski [08:04] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Climate Republicans Blame Biden's Modest Climate Agenda for Gas Prices. They're Wrong. https://truthout.org/articles/republicans-blame-bidens-modest-climate-agenda-for-gas-prices-theyre-wrong/ [08:04] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/republicans-blame-bidens-modest-climate-agenda-for-gas-prices-theyre-wrong/ [08:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Republicans Blame Biden's Modest Climate Agenda for Gas Prices. They're Wrong. [08:04] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Health Controversial Alzheimer's Drug Behind About Half of Medicare's Yearly Price Bump https://truthout.org/articles/controversial-alzheimers-drug-behind-about-half-of-medicares-yearly-price-bump/ [08:04] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/controversial-alzheimers-drug-behind-about-half-of-medicares-yearly-price-bump/ [08:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | Controversial Alzheimer's Drug Behind About Half of Medicare's Yearly Price Bump [08:06] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:06] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #boycottnovell-social [08:06] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #boycottnovell-social MinceR [08:06] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Energy Opinion | Renewable #WindEnergy Can Help Save the Planet and the Ocean's Marine Life https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/renewable-wind-energy-can-help-save-planet-and-oceans-marine-life [08:06] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/renewable-wind-energy-can-help-save-planet-and-oceans-marine-life [08:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Renewable Wind Energy Can Help Save the Planet and the Ocean's Marine Life | H. Bruce Franklin [08:06] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut I Survived Death Row, But I'll Never Escape It https://truthout.org/articles/i-survived-death-row-but-ill-never-escape-it/ [08:06] -altlink_03f/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/i-survived-death-row-but-ill-never-escape-it/ [08:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-truthout.org | I Survived Death Row, But I'll Never Escape It [08:15] techrights-news The Letter EPO Management Does Not Want Applicants to See (or Respond to) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ #Techrights #EPO #patents #swpats | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ @zoobab [08:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | The Letter EPO Management Does Not Want Applicants to See (or Respond to) | Techrights [08:18] techrights-news 19 Absolute Simple Things About Linux Terminal Every Ubuntu User Should Know Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158745 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | 19 Absolute Simple Things About Linux Terminal Every Ubuntu User Should Know | Tux Machines [08:18] techrights-news Open source mind mapping with Draw.io Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158746 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source mind mapping with Draw.io | Tux Machines [08:19] techrights-news #Shell https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/107383046395029190 [08:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "Shell to go ahead with seismic tests in whale bre" - Mastodon [08:20] techrights-news "I think nobody wants this alway-on smartphone camera, Qualcomm!" https://mastodon.social/@gael/107381935508722226 #surveillance #us #gafam #pentagon #espionage [08:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-mastodon.social | : "I think nobody wants this alway-on smartphone cam" - Mastodon [08:25] techrights-news Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158747 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [08:29] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, December 04, 2021 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/irc-log-041221/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/irc-log-041221/ [08:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, December 04, 2021 | Techrights [08:31] techrights-news A letter from the Munich Staff Committee at the EPO highlights the worrying extent of neglect of #patent quality under #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos ; the management of the EPO did not even bother replying to that letter (instead it was busy outsourcing the #EPO to #Microsoft ) http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ [08:53] *altlink_03f has quit (connection closed) [08:53] *altlink_fa7 (~altlink_fa7@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [08:56] techrights-news Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk Sketchbook Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158748 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk Sketchbook | Tux Machines ● Dec 05 [09:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:04] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:24] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:25] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@juz35sey23suk.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:29] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:39] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:39] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:39] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:39] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [09:39] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@p6ij7q2n2uaeg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [09:59] techrights-news #Microsoft patenttroll attacking Linux with #swpats https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/intellectual-ventures-entity-iii-holdings-12-llc-patent-challenged see http://techrights.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures [09:59] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/intellectual-ventures-entity-iii-holdings-12-llc-patent-challenged [09:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.unifiedpatents.com | Intellectual Ventures patent challenged Unified Patents [09:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Intellectual Ventures - Techrights ● Dec 05 [10:08] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [10:09] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [10:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [10:42] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [10:43] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@eefnk9suiagba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [10:44] techrights-news #MaxWalters has just done this puff piece about the #EUIPO s Boards of Appeal, which has been hijacked by the same corrupt cabal which killed the EPO https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vq1jy6hqw2ws/exclusive-euipo-boa-to-expand-mediation-services see http://techrights.org/2021/08/31/acolyte-joao-negrao/ [10:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | Exclusive: EUIPO BoA to expand mediation services | Managing Intellectual Property [10:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part IX Antnios Faithful Acolyte in Alicante | Techrights [10:47] techrights-news #JUVE is not doing any #journalism anymore; it's wording its articles like nothing but advertisements for #litigation firms (which is what the site is all about these days) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/heckler-koch-successful-against-c-g-haenel-over-assault-rifle-patent/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [10:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.juve-patent.com | Heckler & Koch successful against C.G. Haenel over assault rifle patent - JUVE Patent [10:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [10:48] techrights-news #AmySandys has just given an excellent new example of JUVE posting pure spam, or pretence that a firm hiring one person is some major news (it's not even a high-level worker) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/pinsent-masons-appoints-second-patent-partner-in-amsterdam/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [10:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.juve-patent.com | Pinsent Masons appoints second patent partner in Amsterdam - JUVE Patent [10:59] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@kzpwqnbhz94fg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Dec 05 [11:06] techrights-news Recognition that #patents harm COVID response https://www.iam-media.com/global-guide/innovation-invention-yearbook/2022/article/statement-of-working-it-working #patent #monopolies #greed [11:06] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/global-guide/innovation-invention-yearbook/2022/article/statement-of-working-it-working [11:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.iam-media.com | Statement of working: is it working? | IAM [11:12] techrights-news Disclaiming Patent Claims Leads PTAB to Grant a Request for Adverse Judgment https://www.natlawreview.com/article/disclaiming-patent-claims-leads-ptab-to-grant-request-adverse-judgment #ptab #patents #uspto #fakepatents [11:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.natlawreview.com | PTAB Grants Request for Adverse Judgment in Patent Claim Case [11:15] techrights-news #Patent extremists who profit from frivolous #litigation with fake #patents cannot stop bashing those who look to remove invalid patents https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/is-the-ptab-unconstitutionally-biased-7214190/ #ptab [11:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Is the PTAB Unconstitutionally Biased? | Weintraub Tobin - JDSupra [11:17] techrights-news Oligarchs-run paper promotes the lie that #patents are "properly" https://www.economist.com/business/2021/12/04/a-new-way-of-understanding-the-high-but-elusive-worth-of-intellectual-property [11:17] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/business/2021/12/04/a-new-way-of-understanding-the-high-but-elusive-worth-of-intellectual-property [11:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-A new way of understanding the high but elusive worth of intellectual property | The Economist [11:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:25] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [11:27] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@4gtddwxfc3mfn.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [11:35] techrights-news Mouthpieces of #patent extremists or their paid-for #propagandamill still #lobbying #Germany to allow patents for bots. What next? #Patents for pets? https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vq10wwqkj4pb/german-dabus-ruling-could-plot-road-to-ai-inventorship [11:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | German DABUS ruling could plot road to AI inventorship | Managing Intellectual Property [11:36] techrights-news When "Managing IP" says "sources" it means sponsors. #ManagingIP #corruptmedia #patent #lobbying #propagandamill [11:48] techrights-news "opposition activity at the #EPO provides plenty of food..." https://www.iam-media.com/report/special-reports/q4-2021/article/practitioner-insights #epo grants tons of fake patents http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ [11:48] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/report/special-reports/q4-2021/article/practitioner-insights [11:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.iam-media.com | Practitioner insights | IAM ● Dec 05 [12:12] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [12:12] techrights-news The EPOs Web Site is a Parade of Endless Lies and Celebration of Gross Violations of the #Law Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/epo-noise-machine/ #Techrights #epo #patents #unitarypatent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/epo-noise-machine/ [12:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | The EPOs Web Site is a Parade of Endless Lies and Celebration of Gross Violations of the Law | Techrights [12:12] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:12] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [12:17] techrights-news Far too many #fakepatents from the #EPO these days https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/cantargia-reports-opposition-against-recently-granted-european-patent-810805043.html #patent #patents #europe [12:17] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: prnewswire.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/cantargia-reports-opposition-against-recently-granted-european-patent-810805043.html [12:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.prnewswire.co.uk | Cantargia reports opposition against recently granted European patent [12:18] techrights-news Insensitivity at the EPOs Management - Part II: #Patent Office as a #Cancer Techrights http://techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ [12:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Insensitivity at the EPOs Management Part II: Patent Office as a Cancer | Techrights [12:20] techrights-news Monopolisers (and sometimes trolls), not innovators https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/articles/considerations-for-innovators-when-navigating-patent-eligibility-on-the-international-stage.html [12:20] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: finnegan.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/articles/considerations-for-innovators-when-navigating-patent-eligibility-on-the-international-stage.html [12:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Considerations for Innovators When Navigating Patent Eligibility on the International Stage | Articles | Finnegan | Leading Intellectual Property Law Firm [12:38] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [12:39] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [12:39] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [12:48] techrights-news [Meme] Meanwhile in #Austria ... Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/vienna-convention-and-austria/ #Techrights #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent #teamupc | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/vienna-convention-and-austria/ [12:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | [Meme] Meanwhile in Austria | Techrights ● Dec 05 [13:11] techrights-news The EPOs noise site (formerly it had a news section, but it has not been honest for about a decade) is a torrent of lies, cover-up, and promotion of crimes; maybe the lies are obvious for everybody to see (at least #EPO insiders), but nevertheless a rebuttal seems necessary http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/epo-noise-machine/ [13:12] techrights-news "Von der Leyen calls for #EU discussion on mandatory vaccination" https://www.ft.com/content/6724a23a-0f5d-420d-b2c2-1bd9c9a8b448 Von der Leyen = #slavery http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ [13:12] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: ft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ft.com/content/6724a23a-0f5d-420d-b2c2-1bd9c9a8b448 [13:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Financial Times [13:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights [13:15] techrights-news Another fake European #patent h https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/30/2342992/0/en/Palisade-Bio-Announces-the-European-Patent-Office-to-Grant-a-Patent-for-its-Lead-Drug-Candidate-LB1148-Providing-Protection-Through-2035.html see http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ [13:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.globenewswire.com | Palisade Bio Announces the European Patent Office to Grant [13:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | The Letter EPO Management Does Not Want Applicants to See (or Respond to) | Techrights [13:18] techrights-news Antivaxxers are maybe 0.1% of the population. Same for Hitler apologists. But now we have politicians who want us to think about 30% of the populations is "antivaxxers" and every #trump voter is literally Hitler [13:19] techrights-news When you call everyone "antivaxxers" you do no favour to anybody http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [13:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People [13:21] techrights-news Our government can just phone (not mass-mail) people who reject -- for now -- the #covid19 #patent pool to better understand the REASONS (e.g. "I work from home", "I have a medical condition", " I prefer this other product") to get a better grasp. But #billBC doesn't want to know the facts. It's just #marketing http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [13:23] techrights-news Not even 20 million Brits (out of more than 68 million) took a third jab for #covid19 ... how many months before #billBC starts portraying those who are "hesitant".... as if they're against #vaccination in general? #patent #monopolies #greed [13:27] techrights-news 22 million Brits did not receive a pair of #covid19 jabs. I can assure you not even 1% of them are "antivaxxers"... and in fact almost all of them ARE vaccinated, just not with AZ stuff. #patent #patents #monopolies [13:31] techrights-news #uk #covid19 patients in hospital exactly a year ago: 15.7k. Today: about half that number. The jabs do reduce hospitalisation rates, but they do not prevent #coronavirus from spreading. We need better vaccines, but the #patent pools eliminate the incentive to improve. #patents #monopolies [13:33] techrights-news #uk #covid19 patients on ventilator one year ago: 1247. Today: 900. An improvement, but not by much. AGAIN: We need better vaccines, but the #patent pools eliminate the incentive to improve. #patents #monopolies [13:37] techrights-news Although we lose a few battles here and there, overall we're winning the war against #SoftwarePatents because we win the argument https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/2/bcs-software-patent-successfully-challenged #swpats @zoobab [13:37] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/2/bcs-software-patent-successfully-challenged [13:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.unifiedpatents.com | BCS Software patent invalidated Unified Patents [13:38] techrights-news #microsoft still attacks #linux with #swpats : " #patent is purportedly related to open source container orchestration systems for automating computer applications, such as Kubernetes." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/intellectual-ventures-entity-iii-holdings-12-llc-patent-challenged http://techrights.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures [13:38] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/intellectual-ventures-entity-iii-holdings-12-llc-patent-challenged [13:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.unifiedpatents.com | Intellectual Ventures patent challenged Unified Patents [13:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Intellectual Ventures - Techrights [13:39] techrights-news #gnu #linux distros still under attack from #swpats http://techrights.org/2020/11/19/patent-trolling-dolby/ #SoftwarePatents #SoftwarePatent [13:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Dolby Patents Are Being Used in Patent-Trolling Activity Against GNU/Linux, But Dolby is Said to Be a GPL Violator | Techrights [13:39] techrights-news #patent lawyers and #cancer ... same team. http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/11/29/patented-tobacco-harm-reduction-is-it-only-for-the-developed-world/ [13:39] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patented Tobacco Harm Reduction: Is It Only for the Developed World? - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:40] techrights-news "Spanish Patent and Trademark Office (SPTO) published a draft text of amendments that, among other improvements, admits the protection of pharmaceutical substances and compositions via utility models." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/11/29/draft-amendment-of-spanish-patent-act-aimed-at-admitting-the-protection-of-pharmaceutical-substances-and-compositions-via-utility-models/ [13:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Draft amendment of Spanish Patent Act aimed at admitting the protection of pharmaceutical substances and compositions via utility models - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:42] techrights-news This spammy press release is treated by Google News like a "news site" (Out-Law.com) and JUVE relayed the SPAM, making it seem like a hiring of one person is "news" https://www.pinsentmasons.com/about-us/announcements/pinsent-masons-appoints-fourth-partner-in-amsterdam-with-life-sciences-patent-specialist [13:42] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: pinsentmasons.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pinsentmasons.com/about-us/announcements/pinsent-masons-appoints-fourth-partner-in-amsterdam-with-life-sciences-patent-specialist [13:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.pinsentmasons.com | Pinsent Masons appoints fourth partner in Amsterdam with life sciences patent specialist [13:43] techrights-news With lobbyists-led leadership one might be led to believe that a treaty strictly requiring ratification by the #UK is somehow feasible (even if technically and legally it's moot already) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/vienna-convention-and-austria/ #Techrights #teamUPC #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/vienna-convention-and-austria/ [13:45] techrights-news "At first instance, the EUIPOs Opposition Division rejected the opposition in its entirety." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/a-tale-of-two-ports-gc-holds-portwo-gin.html #EUIPO is deeply, deeply #corrupt and an utter liability to the #eu http://techrights.org/wiki/EUIPO [13:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | A Tale of Two Ports? GC holds PORTWO GIN to be an exploitation of PDO - The IPKat [13:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights [13:46] techrights-news #euipo = #eu #bribery hub http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/jobs-as-bribes/ #corruption #crime [13:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XX Top Jobs at EUIPO for Compliant Baltic Officials? | Techrights [13:47] techrights-news Lawyers versus the population, or those who serve to suppress the message of the 'peasantry' https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vp778q112cn1/exclusive-lawyer-that-took-on-banksy-joins-brandsmiths [13:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | Exclusive: Lawyer that took on Banksy joins Brandsmiths | Managing Intellectual Property [13:50] techrights-news "This is a #trademark case." But #DennisCrouch has filed it under "Patent" only. Maybe these lecturers cannot tell the difference or simply pretend that those are the same thing. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/11/genus-species-trademark.html [13:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-patentlyo.com | Genus-Species in Trademark Law Usage | Patently-O [13:52] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:52] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:52] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:52] techrights-news After this edit the English is even worse, LOL https://openwrt.org/bugs?rev=1638702574&do=diff [13:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] Reporting bugs [13:53] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [13:54] techrights-news I might move to #openwrt soon because #bt keeps breaking my home network (for months, their remote updates contain severe bugs) and they remotely reboot the router, dropping all connections, without prior warning or consent. Just like that, unannounced completely. They could at least say WHEN in advance. [13:57] *activelow (~activelow@urbrennxh2mqu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Dec 05 [14:00] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:01] techrights-news "Sandris Laganovskis moved from the Latvian Patent Office to #EUIPO in #Alicante towards the end of 2020." #eu #epo #bribery http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/jobs-as-bribes/ [14:01] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158749 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:06] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [14:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [14:06] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [14:11] *activelow (~activelow@4wr2j48cc8cmq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [14:13] techrights-news " #patent describes the ornamental design for a display screen portion with animated graphical user interface." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/3/2000-for-wepay-global-payment-prior-art #softwarepatents #softwarepatent #swpats [14:13] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/3/2000-for-wepay-global-payment-prior-art [14:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for Wepay Global Payment prior art Unified Patents [14:15] techrights-news #patents on #hevc codecs https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/etri-reexamination-request-granted #softwarepatents #softwarepatent #swpats http://techrights.org/2015/07/26/hevc-cartel/ [14:15] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/etri-reexamination-request-granted [14:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.unifiedpatents.com | ETRI reexamination request granted Unified Patents [14:15] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | HEVC Cartel is Not News, Only the Names of Backers and the Costs Are New | Techrights [14:17] techrights-news #TeamUPC now uses #JUVE as its #propagandamill https://loupedin.blog/2021/11/juves-survey-respondents-favour-german-and-french-judges-for-the-upc-bench-and-paris-to-replace-the-third-central-division-previously-held-by-london/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve #UPC isn't possible, so they craft bogus 'news' with false assumptions [14:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-loupedin.blog | JUVE's survey respondents favour German and French Judges for the UPC bench and Paris to replace the third central division previously held by London - LoupedIn [14:17] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [14:18] techrights-news "The Bill was debated in the UK Parliament on Friday 3rd December. Here's what happened [aside from a whole load of completely unnecessary and tedious oversharing from several MPs about their life stories, or having once looked at a musical instrument *eye roll*]." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/12/copyright-rights-and-remuneration-of.html [14:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Copyright (Rights and Remuneration of Musicians, Etc.) Bill debated in UK Parliament - The IPKat [14:20] techrights-news #FloriaMller takes note of "The App(le) Association's astroturfing"; it's actually a #microsoft front group http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/12/apple-will-most-likely-get-epics.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/Association_for_Competitive_Technology [14:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Apple will most likely get Epic's injunction stayed and reasonably disputes independence of Coalition for App Fairness, but should apply same standard to ACT | The App(le) Association's astroturfing [14:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Association for Competitive Technology - Techrights [14:21] techrights-news When #patents kill https://www.devex.com/news/nurses-file-un-complaint-against-eu-other-countries-over-trips-102211 #patent #monopolies #billgates #covidf19 https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [14:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 403 @ https://www.devex.com/news/nurses-file-un-complaint-against-eu-other-countries-over-trips-102211 ) [14:21] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: devex.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.devex.com/news/nurses-file-un-complaint-against-eu-other-countries-over-trips-102211 [14:21] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [14:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [14:23] techrights-news "European #Patent Office had also confirmed the validity of the patent during opposition proceedings," but these tribunals are grotesquely rigged and unconstitutional https://www.floordaily.net/flooring-news/hymmen-wins-patent-infringement-case see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [14:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.floordaily.net | Hymmen Wins Patent Infringement Case [14:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [14:58] techrights-news This ongoing #TeamUPC #propaganda in Ireland begs you to believe that the #UPC is legal and tenable; it's not, due to Brexit and many other key factors. Fake news has become the 'norm'. https://www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/2021/12-december/ireland-could-miss-out-on-patent-court see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ [14:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.lawsociety.ie | Warning that Ireland could miss out on patent court [14:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights ● Dec 05 [15:00] techrights-news #Europe has already become a breeding ground for #patenttrolls https://www.iam-media.com/frandseps/ford-latest-auto-major-be-hit-patent-claims-avanci-member see http://techrights.org/2018/01/14/ericsson-avanci-and-unwired-planet/ [15:00] -altlink_fa7/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/frandseps/ford-latest-auto-major-be-hit-patent-claims-avanci-member [15:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.iam-media.com | Ford is latest auto major to be hit with patent claims by Avanci member | IAM [15:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | If Ericsson and Its Patent Trolls (Like Avanci and Unwired Planet) Cannot Make It, the Patent Microcosm Will Perish | Techrights [15:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:00] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:00] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:01] techrights-news Give your Terminal a Retro Look Using this Neat Application Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158750 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Give your Terminal a Retro Look Using this Neat Application | Tux Machines [15:12] techrights-news Bad idea: #patents on plants, using #greenwashing excuses for the #monopolies https://www.freshplaza.com/article/9377740/perrina-s-varietal-clementine-innovation-could-be-a-solution-in-response-to-climate-change/ [15:12] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.freshplaza.com | Perrina's varietal clementine innovation could be a solution in response to climate change [15:25] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [15:25] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [15:25] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [15:28] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: bbl) [15:32] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@7hqhhkt9jhmyw.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [15:32] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [15:32] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@ekxkqb93kydms.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [15:34] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [15:34] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@mai559v73p2z2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [15:36] techrights-news Society Needs to Take Back Computing, Data, and Networks Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/taking-back-cyberspace/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #gemtext | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/taking-back-cyberspace/ [15:36] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Society Needs to Take Back Computing, Data, and Networks | Techrights [15:37] techrights-news #Hymmen wins digital printing #patent infringement #litigation against #Barbern | Woodworking Network https://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/news/woodworking-industry-news/hymmen-wins-digital-printing-patent-infringement-litigation-against see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [15:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.woodworkingnetwork.com | Hymmen wins digital printing patent infringement litigation against Barbern | Woodworking Network [15:43] techrights-news #ManchesterUnited dominating today. That's better. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59380823 [15:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.bbc.co.uk | Manchester United v Crystal Palace - BBC Sport [15:56] techrights-news Why #GemText needs to become the new HTML (but remain very simple) in order for cyberspace to be taken away from state-connected and military-funded corporations that spy on people and abuse society at large Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/taking-back-cyberspace/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/taking-back-cyberspace/ ● Dec 05 [16:07] techrights-news Links 5/12/2021: Touchpad Gestures in #XWayland Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/touchpad-gestures-in-xwayland/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/touchpad-gestures-in-xwayland/ [16:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 5/12/2021: Touchpad Gestures in XWayland | Techrights [16:07] techrights-news Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158751 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [16:09] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:10] *x_ (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [16:13] *altlink_fa7 has quit (connection closed) [16:13] *altlink_1ab (~altlink_1ab@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [16:20] techrights-news Hungary: Major amendments to the Patent Act from 1 January 2022 https://insightplus.bakermckenzie.com/bm/viewContent.action?key=Ec8teaJ9Vapopk6ZSyeESV7eOOGbnAEFKCLORG72fHz0%2BNbpi2jDfaB8lgiEyY1JAvAvaah9lF26bJK6KF1TgA%3D%3D&nav=FRbANEucS95NMLRN47z%2BeeOgEFCt8EGQ0qFfoEM4UR4%3D&emailtofriendview=true&freeviewlink=true see http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/epo-unlawful-regime/ [16:20] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: bakermckenzie.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://insightplus.bakermckenzie.com/bm/viewContent.action?key=Ec8teaJ9Vapopk6ZSyeESV7eOOGbnAEFKCLORG72fHz0%2BNbpi2jDfaB8lgiEyY1JAvAvaah9lF26bJK6KF1TgA%3D%3D&nav=FRbANEucS95NMLRN47z%2BeeOgEFCt8EGQ0qFfoEM4UR4%3D&emailtofriendview=true&freeviewlink=true [16:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-insightplus.bakermckenzie.com | Hungary: Major amendments to the Patent Act from 1 January 2022 - Baker McKenzie InsightPlus [16:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Unlawful Regimes Even Hungary and Poland Would Envy | Techrights [16:21] techrights-news #billBC on #russia https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59470839 [16:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.bbc.co.uk | Poland PM urges 'wake up' to destabilisation by Russia and allies - BBC News [16:23] techrights-news Wait till #SynAct realises many European Patents are fakes https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/SYNACT-PHARMA-AB-120973321/news/SynAct-Pharma-strengthens-its-patent-portfolio-for-AP1189-following-an-Intention-to-Grant-from-the-E-37175450/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ [16:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-SynAct Pharma strengthens its patent portfolio for AP1189 following an Intention to Grant from the European Patent Office | MarketScreener [16:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | The Letter EPO Management Does Not Want Applicants to See (or Respond to) | Techrights [16:28] techrights-news #manutd dominated it today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoAADKbO58A [16:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Fred fires Rangnick to debut win | Manchester United 1-0 Crystal Palace | Premier League Highlights - YouTube [16:29] techrights-news #Arsus final decision affirmed by Federal Circuit https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/1/federal-circuit-affirms-unified-patents-successful-ipr-against-arsus #fakepatents #uspto #ptab #cafc [16:29] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/1/federal-circuit-affirms-unified-patents-successful-ipr-against-arsus [16:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.unifiedpatents.com | Arsus final decision affirmed by Federal Circuit Unified Patents [16:30] techrights-news Does #Patent Monetization Promote SSO Participation? https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3973585 #patents #boston [16:30] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: ssrn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3973585 [16:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-papers.ssrn.com | Does Patent Monetization Promote SSO Participation? by Timothy Simcoe, Qing Zhang :: SSRN [16:31] techrights-news Thwarting #fakepatents before they get granted https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/crandall-technologies-patent-invalidated-in-reexam #uspto #patents #monopolies #ptab [16:31] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/crandall-technologies-patent-invalidated-in-reexam [16:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.unifiedpatents.com | Crandall Tech patent successfully challenged Unified Patents [16:33] techrights-news Ericsson's patent cartel in more "professional" clothing] https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vlp0pmnjzmfv/how-holdout-has-evolved-sep-owners-reveal-new-tactics see http://techrights.org/2018/01/01/tcl-v-ericsson/ [16:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | How holdout has evolved: SEP owners reveal new tactics | Managing Intellectual Property [16:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | FRAND is Unfair, Unreasonable and Discriminatory; Ericsson is Still a FRAND Troll | Techrights [16:40] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:41] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:41] techrights-news #PatrickWingrove on their #astroturfing or fake 'awards' (which they can get paid for twist a little) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vnxrqhwwj089/the-50-most-influential-people-in-ip-2021 likte the corrupt #gartnerGroup http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group [16:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.managingip.com | The 50 most influential people in IP 2021 | Managing Intellectual Property [16:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Gartner Group - Techrights [16:42] techrights-news #Adele , #Spotify and the right of integrity http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/12/adele-spotify-and-right-of-integrity.html #drm #copyright [16:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Adele, Spotify and the right of integrity - The IPKat [16:43] techrights-news Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness... #Monopolies however want to "OWN" everything http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/guest-post-flattery-or-freeloading-use.html [16:43] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] Flattery or freeloading? The use of look-a-likes within the context of image rights - The IPKat [16:46] techrights-news These #patents can only lead to more deaths, nothing else ttps://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2021/11/17/2335978/0/en/Nicox-is-Granted-Patent-for-Blepharitis-Product-Candidate-NCX-4251-in-Europe.htm [16:47] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [16:47] techrights-news They mean computer program, not "Hey Hi", but we're living in a generation of buzzwords, misnomers, and liars/lawyers looking to sell sinister agenda for profit https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=f3c983a8-f9a2-4070-8354-82a2d9467172 [16:47] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: lexology.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=f3c983a8-f9a2-4070-8354-82a2d9467172 [16:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Artificial Intelligence, Innovation and Inventorship - Can AI be an Inventor? - Lexology [16:48] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [16:48] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [16:50] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@73van8zu8scis.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [16:50] techrights-news These #patent pools are death knells to millions of people; it's all about hoarding/plundering taxpayers' money to enrich the likes of investors such as #BillGates https://www.iam-media.com/coronavirus/key-takeaways-mercks-landmark-covid-ip-licensing-deal-the-medicines-patent-pool #patents #monopolies https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [16:50] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/coronavirus/key-takeaways-mercks-landmark-covid-ip-licensing-deal-the-medicines-patent-pool [16:50] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [16:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.iam-media.com | Key takeaways from Mercks landmark covid IP licensing deal with the Medicines Patent Pool | IAM [16:50] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [16:52] techrights-news #IAM promotes #extortion with #SoftwarePatents using a "smiley face" https://www.iam-media.com/frandseps/how-next-generation-video-patent-pools-can-balance-interests-and-encourage-new-tech-adoption [16:52] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/frandseps/how-next-generation-video-patent-pools-can-balance-interests-and-encourage-new-tech-adoption [16:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.iam-media.com | How next-generation patent pools can encourage adoption of new streaming tech | IAM [16:55] techrights-news #patent #law firms work against you, not for you https://beale-law.com/article/case-report-basf-corporation-ors-v-carpmaels-and-ransford/ and they get away with it... #basf #ransford [16:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-beale-law.com | Case Report: BASF Corporation & Ors v Carpmaels and Ransford Beale & Co [16:58] techrights-news #IAM is no posting pure #SPAM disguised as 'articles' and 'interviews' (this is one of many); #JUVE , IAM, #ManagingIP and other such sites became #spamfarms disguised as "news" sites https://www.iam-media.com/survey/iam-global-leaders/2022/article/katja-sorensen http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [16:58] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/survey/iam-global-leaders/2022/article/katja-sorensen [16:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.iam-media.com | Katja Srensen | IAM [16:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [16:59] techrights-news Getting high on #monopolies that the #EPO grants to #narcotics pushers https://seekingalpha.com/news/3773201-zynerba-pharma-pops-4-after-securing-new-european-patent-for-zygel-cbd-gel see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [16:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/news/3773201-zynerba-pharma-pops-4-after-securing-new-european-patent-for-zygel-cbd-gel ) [16:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights ● Dec 05 [17:01] techrights-news There is no such thing as "Intellectual Property"; it's a misleading misnomer, just like this book title http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/book-review-handbook-of-intellectual_29.html #monopolies #law #misnomers #spin [17:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book Review: Handbook of Intellectual Property Research [Part 2] - The IPKat [17:03] techrights-news This fluff from #Inventa International mentions the PACE program of EPO, which is likely illegal; after it was exposed in the media the #EPO engaged in creative #revisionism to make it seem acceptable, but it's just more of the usual corruption https://inventa.com/en/news/article/696/africa-patenting-against-the-clock http://techrights.org/2015/10/11/closer-contact-with-major-applicants-leaked/ [17:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Africa: patenting against the clock - Inventa [17:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Leaked: EPO Prioritises Work for Large Foreign Corporations, Discrimination Not Accidental But Centrally Planned | Techrights [17:04] techrights-news MEGATRON is helped by #nytimes to end up "Creating a Lot of Anxiety" https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/opinion/omicron-variant-covid.html and #patents contributed to this mess; #patent #monopolies give financial incentive to never end the crisis, just milk it for profit [17:04] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/opinion/omicron-variant-covid.html [17:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | The Omicron Variant Is Creating a Lot of Anxiety - The New York Times [17:06] techrights-news #Lawyers for #embargo and not #science ... Can I continue shipping products if I am being sued for #patent infringement? A summary of the Courts considerations https://www.onc.hk/en_US/publication/can-i-continue-shipping-products-if-i-am-being-sued-for-patent-infringement-a-summary-of-the-court-s-considerations [17:06] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.onc.hk | ONC Lawyers [17:08] techrights-news #Patent #propaganda from #China , misnaming them "IP" and pretending that just granting millions of piece of junk is "innovation"; this is how financial bubbles get created http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/the-annual-world-intellectual-property.html [17:08] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The annual World Intellectual Property Indicators Report (WIPI) and Chinas IP boom - The IPKat [17:10] techrights-news The Chinese Patent System Does a Fine Job Devouring China, But Sites of the Litigation Industry Are Absolutely Loving It! Techrights http://techrights.org/2018/05/30/swpats-trolls-in-china/ #Techrights #china #cn #patents #monopoles | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2018/05/30/swpats-trolls-in-china/ [17:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | The Chinese Patent System Does a Fine Job Devouring China, But Sites of the Litigation Industry Are Absolutely Loving It! | Techrights [17:10] techrights-news Chinas Self-Destructive Patent Policy Will Replace Assembly Lines of Products With Assembly Lines of Low-Quality Patents and Lawsuits Techrights http://techrights.org/2018/01/07/china-patent-policy/ #Techrights #china #cn #patents #monopoles | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2018/01/07/china-patent-policy/ [17:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Chinas Self-Destructive Patent Policy Will Replace Assembly Lines of Products With Assembly Lines of Low-Quality Patents and Lawsuits | Techrights [17:10] techrights-news China Tightens Its Knot of Restrictive Rules and Patents Techrights http://techrights.org/2018/01/16/patents-in-china/ #Techrights #china #cn #patents #monopoles| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2018/01/16/patents-in-china/ [17:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | China Tightens Its Knot of Restrictive Rules and Patents | Techrights [17:10] techrights-news China Bashing is Grounded in Fear (That They Can Simply Do Better Than the West) Techrights http://techrights.org/2020/02/19/china-bashing/ #Techrights #china #cn #patents #monopoles | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/02/19/china-bashing/ [17:10] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | China Bashing is Grounded in Fear (That They Can Simply Do Better Than the West) | Techrights [17:13] techrights-news Oligarch #bloomberg (or his media apparatus) distracting from #microsoft crimes https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/eu-lawmakers-pass-strict-new-rules-affecting-big-u-s-tech "Big Tech" is a false narrative used and spread by Microsoft criminals http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [17:13] -altlink_1ab/#boycottnovell-social- Cloudflare: bloomberglaw.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/eu-lawmakers-pass-strict-new-rules-affecting-big-u-s-tech [17:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-news.bloomberglaw.com | NO TITLE [17:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights [17:14] techrights-news Man #epo articles to come later this month, with exclusives among them. http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [17:22] techrights-news How new Linux users can increase their odds of success Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158752 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | How new Linux users can increase their odds of success | Tux Machines [17:23] techrights-news What desktop Linux needs to succeed in the mainstream Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158753 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | What desktop Linux needs to succeed in the mainstream | Tux Machines [17:23] techrights-news What Is Ubuntu? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158754 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is Ubuntu? | Tux Machines [17:28] techrights-news "In this video I try to play along with some of their challenges. Also, they shouted me out and I'm embarrassed AF." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2bhopXsYvQk [17:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Well, at least Linus' printer is working well for him. | LinusTechTips Daily Driver Challenge Part 3 - Invidious [17:29] techrights-news "This breaks down all the simple tasks that Linus and Luke did in Linux. I also show more advanced ways to complete the tasks faster to make you a better user!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6h2UmKTcCfA [17:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-yewtu.be | Titus vs LTT - Simple Tasks on Linux - Invidious [17:30] techrights-news Steinar H. 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[20:12] schestowitz IPWatchdog.com [20:12] schestowitz Earlier this year, the European Patent Office updated some of its Guidelines for Examination in a way that potentially could affect U.S. patent ... [20:12] schestowitz Watchtroll boosting EPO ● Dec 05 [21:03] *x_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tsr57pffuvh3u.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [21:39] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:40] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:40] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Dec 05 [22:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [22:02] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [22:02] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [22:26] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you tomorrow) ● Dec 05 [23:27] *altlink_1ab has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Masks may be found in your mail in tray. [01:11] schestowitz For further guidance, like how often should a mask be replaced, how to put on or take off a mask to prevent contamination: please carefully read the instructions enclosed with the masks. [01:11] schestowitz Wear your SUEPO mask where appropriate. We protect each other. Keep healthy. [01:11] schestowitz " ● Dec 05 [04:15] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Dec 05 [06:26] activelow reviewing kconfig options for arm32 instead of aarch64... it's simply insane, the amount of variants and errata; [06:26] activelow i drop this idea [06:27] activelow it is possible, however i see the 32bit era of ARM support in linux kernel labels various features of later ARM as experimental (big.LITTLE among other open questions) [06:29] activelow so, i cannot get rid of GCC and/or llvm/clang, PCC does not support aarch64, and that's not all ... ● Dec 05 [07:23] activelow i don't know, digging into arm32, if i had known... [07:24] activelow too it seems the support of recent aarch64 SBC which are 32bit-capable of cause, such support isn't explicite with 32bit arm linux kernel configuration [07:25] activelow reminds me, DAC VAX was known to support 128bit general purpose data types already, 40years ago [07:25] activelow and since then, chaos and sabotage to "outcompete" [07:26] *activelow cannot believe what he is seeing here [07:58] activelow anyway, i'll cross-compile a 32bit ARM firmware next, with gcc, to verify later pcc compiler support for arm32 ● Dec 05 [08:03] activelow recently i had noticed, kernel 5.15 updated minimum gcc version... from 4.9 to 5.1 [08:05] schestowitz I think I read something about it [08:05] schestowitz the new kernels do in fact require very recent GCC [08:05] schestowitz and GCC itself comes with a growing set of requirements [08:05] schestowitz this has many implications [08:06] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:06] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techpol [08:06] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to MinceR [08:07] activelow morning [08:07] activelow could, disabling some gcc plugins and extensions lowers minimum required version of gcc, and of cause various newer hardware [08:09] activelow i will try to back down to gcc-4.7.4 (or earlier if that removes c++ dependency of GCC) [08:09] activelow however, gentoo already dropped this one from the tree... [08:24] activelow this limits available options to what kernel 5.10(max?) and gcc-4.7 support, with the nice side effect of less or no updates anymore [08:25] activelow if the ARM SBC (rk3328 and rk3399) can be booted with a linux arm 32bit kernel, then aarch64 is out (blacklisted due to lack of compiler) [08:39] schestowitz in terms of deps. I imagine llvm/clang is no better [08:39] schestowitz maybe even worse [08:41] activelow question: how often do you expect llvm/clang and gcc being installed in parallel? [08:41] activelow i think almost always, and this answers the question to which problem llvm/clang solved: it added to the complexity and bloat of gnu/linux [08:42] activelow to remain fair, i remember some embedded devs who recognised llvm/clang for it's static code analysis, error reporting and quality, 8 years ago [08:43] activelow btw. gcc written in c++ nowadays slowed it down and increased memory consumption [08:44] activelow however, before I boast about it, i need to showcase a system without c++ compiler present can be deployed, including X11/netsurf and various of this modern software ● Dec 05 [09:25] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@juz35sey23suk.irc) has joined #techpol [09:39] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [09:39] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@p6ij7q2n2uaeg.irc) has joined #techpol ● Dec 05 [10:08] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [10:09] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #techpol [10:13] activelow neat, gcc-4.7.4 does seem to support aarch64...; i'll try this next now to compile an entire release with it, and all c++ support removed [10:42] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [10:43] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@eefnk9suiagba.irc) has joined #techpol [10:59] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@kzpwqnbhz94fg.irc) has joined #techpol ● Dec 05 [11:16] activelow nope, gcc-4.7.4 does not support aarch64 :( [11:17] activelow so, i need to enforce downgrade to 32bit with ARM, which may or may not be possible with the rockchip arm SBC i have [11:17] activelow it's a prime showcase of cluster**** by the industry [11:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:25] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [11:27] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@4gtddwxfc3mfn.irc) has joined #techpol [11:53] activelow so, this is the problem: gcc-4.7.4 is clean and doesn't require c++, it doesn't support aarch64; any later version supports aarch64 and is poisoned by c++ [11:55] activelow this means, the desired upgrade path is dead with aarch64, arm 32bit and that's it as far as this architecture is concerned [11:56] activelow wouldn't suprise me if my rockchip arm SBCs which do support 32bit arm will not boot correctly with a 32bit arm linux kernel... will know in a few days ● Dec 05 [12:12] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techpol [12:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techpol [12:54] schestowitz [11:17] it's a prime showcase of cluster**** by the industry [12:54] schestowitz sales is their goal [12:54] schestowitz nothing else ● Dec 05 [13:05] activelow thinking of the gigatron again sold for 150Euros, and nvidia offering 40billion for ARM [13:05] activelow anyway, even the gigatron is practically useless without staff, the developers... [13:06] activelow what gigatron offers, is priceless [13:53] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [13:57] *activelow (~activelow@urbrennxh2mqu.irc) has joined #techpol [13:57] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to activelow ● Dec 05 [14:00] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:11] schestowitz computers become more powerful than what we typically need [14:11] *activelow (~activelow@4wr2j48cc8cmq.irc) has joined #techpol [14:11] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to activelow [14:11] schestowitz so some offload HEY HI to them [14:11] schestowitz wasting power on worthless garbage [14:11] schestowitz trying to justify this waste [14:11] schestowitz for irc of text editing we do not need "modern" processors [14:11] schestowitz same for gemini is we need pages with hyperlinks [14:42] activelow "liberals" agreed to by majority vote to join "coalition of constitutional enemies", 92% in favor [14:42] activelow the following speech broadcasted live, celebrating this: "unvaccinated infringe the freedom of everyone else" [14:43] activelow "unvaccinated prolong the lock-down and the pandemic", Volker Wissing, FDP "liberals", end quote. ● Dec 05 [15:28] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: bbl) [15:32] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@7hqhhkt9jhmyw.irc) has joined #techpol [15:32] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [15:32] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@ekxkqb93kydms.irc) has joined #techpol [15:34] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [15:34] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@mai559v73p2z2.irc) has joined #techpol ● Dec 05 [16:09] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:10] *x_ (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techpol [16:50] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@73van8zu8scis.irc) has joined #techpol ● Dec 05 [18:40] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [18:40] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@a5avv33hqqukg.irc) has joined #techpol [18:48] *tech_exorcist has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:48] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@tqrtt4p8kcxpw.irc) has joined #techpol ● Dec 05 [19:29] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:44] schestowitz activelow: they describe football match goers [19:44] schestowitz and shift the blame ● Dec 05 [21:03] *x_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tsr57pffuvh3u.irc) has joined #techpol ● Dec 05 [22:26] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you tomorrow)