●● IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Saturday, June 19, 2021 ●● ● Jun 19 [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:03] techrights-bot/fn Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152444 [00:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:06] *DaemonFC_phone has quit (connection closed) [00:11] *DaemonFC_phone (~daemonfc@h7cnw5eezgkuu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [00:11] *DaemonFC_phone has quit (connection closed) [00:22] *DaemonFC_phone (~daemonfc@h7cnw5eezgkuu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [00:22] *DaemonFC_phone has quit (connection closed) [00:40] *DaemonFC_phone (~daemonfc@h7cnw5eezgkuu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [00:42] *DaemonFC_phone has quit (connection closed) [00:47] *DaemonFC_phone (~daemonfc@h7cnw5eezgkuu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [00:48] *DaemonFC_phone has quit (connection closed) [00:48] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152447 [00:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:48] techrights-bot/fn #Proton 6.3-5 RC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152446 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Proton 6.3-5 RC | Tux Machines [00:48] techrights-bot/fn #Wine 6.11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152445 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.11 | Tux Machines [00:49] techrights-bot/fn #SnalLinux 1.5 is out https://sourceforge.net/projects/snallinux/ #gnu #linux distro by #jeremywakeman [00:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Snal Linux download | SourceForge.net [00:55] techrights-bot/fn #WindRiver Linux updates with Linux LTS 5.10 and a prebuilt binary http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152448 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Wind River Linux updates with Linux LTS 5.10 and a prebuilt binary | Tux Machines [00:57] *DaemonFC_phone (~daemonfc@h7cnw5eezgkuu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [00:58] techrights-bot/fn Ben Cotton seems to be leading a community of just himself, #ibm staff, some interns, and barely any more volunteers (because #redhat isn't the same as IBM Red Hat) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-24/ [00:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-24 Fedora Community Blog ● Jun 19 [01:00] techrights-bot/fn #mozilla : let's use #proprietarySoftware for collab. #deletegithub (and now Zoom, Discord...) http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2021/06/18/ctcft-social-hour/ [01:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-smallcultfollowing.com | CTCFT Social Hour [01:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:05] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:07] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [01:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [01:12] *DaemonFC_phone has quit (connection closed) [01:22] techrights-bot/fn Microsoft cannot maintain Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152391#comment-29986 [01:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft loves Linux so much that packages.microsoft.com has fallen and can't get up | Tux Machines [01:26] techrights-bot/fn "It's time once again for The Weekender. This is our bi-weekly departure into the world of amateur radio contests, open source conventions, special events, listener challenges, hedonism and just plain fun." https://lhspodcast.info/2021/06/lhs-episode-416-the-weekender-lxxiii-2/ [01:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #416: The Weekender LXXIII | Linux in the Ham Shack [01:28] techrights-bot/fn Linux Mint 20.2 beta ISOs are now ready for download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152391#comment-29987 [01:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft loves Linux so much that packages.microsoft.com has fallen and can't get up | Tux Machines [01:30] techrights-bot/fn Canonical announces end of life date for Ubuntu 20.10 Groovy Gorilla http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152409#comment-29988 [01:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) Will Reach End Of Life on July 22nd, 2021 | Tux Machines [01:32] techrights-bot/fn #Manjaro 21.0.7 is out. https://manjaro.org/ #gnu #libux [01:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-manjaro.org | Manjaro - enjoy the simplicity [01:33] techrights-bot/fn #LinuxPlumbersConference : Tracing Microconference Accepted into 2021 Linux Plumbers Conference https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/blog/2021/index.php/2021/06/18/tracing-microconference-accepted-into-2021-linux-plumbers-conference/ #linux #kernel [01:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.linuxplumbersconf.org | Tracing Microconference Accepted into 2021 Linux Plumbers Conference Linux Plumbers Conference 2021 [01:34] techrights-bot/fn PUPPI is a tinyML device designed to interpret your dogs mood via sound analysis | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/18/puppi-is-a-tinyml-device-designed-to-interpret-your-dogs-mood-through-sound-analysis/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/19/#latest [01:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blog.arduino.cc | PUPPI is a tinyML device designed to interpret your dog's mood via sound analysis | Arduino Blog [01:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:35] techrights-bot/fn #RADV Open-Source #Radeon #Vulkan Driver Begins Landing Ray-Tracing Changes - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RADV-RT-Starts-Landing #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [01:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-RADV Open-Source Radeon Vulkan Driver Begins Landing Ray-Tracing Changes - Phoronix [01:35] techrights-bot/fn Outsourcing to #google is not real security https://linuxhint.com/linux-two-factor-authentication/ [01:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-linuxhint.com | Linux Two-factor Authentication Linux Hint [01:37] techrights-bot/fn "Most of my users use the Webmail I have configured on our institutes servers, Roundcube, for which I have the highest appreciation. Only that Of course, when a user yields their username and password to an attacker, it is very successful at Sending huge amounts of unrequested mail, leading to my server losing its reputation" https://gwolf.org/2021/06/fighting-spam-on-roundcu [01:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-gwolf.org | Gunnar Wolf [01:37] techrights-bot/fn be-with-modsecurity.html [01:45] phobos/fn anyway [01:46] DaemonFC I don't even think there should be an "Immigration" agency that gets to say who is here unless and until you've committed some serious crime. [01:46] DaemonFC It's just ripe for politicizing the issue. [01:46] phobos/fn I'm not anti corp, but I'm sick and tired of seeing employers think everyone but their best friends are disposable, then bitch that no one has 'loyalty' anymore [01:46] MinceR pretty nice demonstration of how the two-party system "works" :> [01:46] DaemonFC Demonizing all of them. Saying there's certain desirables when most are trash (which is what schestowitz-land does now). [01:47] activelow immigration statistics are falsified too [01:47] MinceR for(;;) { cout << a << " sucks, i'll vote for " << b << end; swap(a, b); } [01:47] phobos/fn Yes. Two wings on the same bird = uni party = not two party [01:47] DaemonFC You know, from what I've seen that's just wrong. I think we should get rid of USCIS completely and just let people come here and maybe we get rid of them if convicted of a felony or some violent Class A Misdemeanor. [01:47] MinceR s/end/endl/ [01:48] DaemonFC There's really no reason to keep the ones that are going to be troublemakers, but you round them up and give them the boot and then there's just not much else to do for the most part. [01:49] DaemonFC Most illegal immigration is visa overstays. [01:49] DaemonFC In other words, the "wall" or whatever can't even possibly stop 70% of it, or even obstruct it in any way. [01:49] DaemonFC You have their fingerprints if they've come in on a visa. If you boot them out, just don't let them in on a visa again. Most of the problem is solved. [01:50] activelow reasonable argument was immigration is required due to pension funds and workforce etc.; problem with the statistics is excessive immigration was arranged for, pension funds are not performing, and lack of skilled staff is reported by the industry here [01:50] DaemonFC Well, a lot of the problem, and Trump was right about this, is the Diversity Visa lottery. [01:50] DaemonFC If they couldn't build themselves a house, industrialize their own country, or pay taxes there, why would they be able to here? [01:51] *phobos/fn shrugs [01:51] DaemonFC This program is a good example of the unfairness of a relic leftover from bleeding heart liberals. [01:51] phobos/fn maybe they were told that the dims/libs would provide for them [01:51] phobos/fn which they really have by buying up hotels in Washington and other states to house them [01:51] DaemonFC They give us a lot of crap about my spouse but they let random people in for no reason and give them papers. [01:52] phobos/fn maybe your spouse should speak spanish, change their last name to Garcia, and then walk across the US/Mexico border? [01:52] phobos/fn They'd let your spouse in no problem and probably give you two every benefit the USA has to offer [01:53] phobos/fn Not meant as an insult, but rather the way things are right now [01:53] phobos/fn pointing out the way things are* [01:54] phobos/fn seems they are flying the illegals to whatever major city they request in the middle of the night if the rumors are to be believed [01:54] DaemonFC schestowitz, Regarding unemployment fraud, I'm surprised that MARISOL hasn't done it yet. [01:54] DaemonFC That's how she tried to take out life insurance on Mandy. She knows his SSN. [01:54] MinceR > and then walk across the US/Mexico border? [01:55] MinceR but there's a wall in the way :( [01:55] phobos/fn only in certain portions [01:55] DaemonFC Oh, there's a lot of Mexican restaurants here. [01:55] phobos/fn its still largely left wide open [01:55] MinceR :) [01:55] DaemonFC They should be allowed to stay because I don't know how to make a burrito like that. [01:55] phobos/fn lol [01:55] DaemonFC And most of them aren't more expensive than shitass Taco Bell anyway. [01:55] techrights-bot/fn How To Host Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Server on #Ubuntu https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/how-to-host-counter-strike-global-offensive-server #games #gnu #linux [01:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.linuxandubuntu.com | How To Host Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Server on Ubuntu [01:56] DaemonFC What's sad is when you live in a town that's half Mexican that has 10 Mexican restaurants on every block, right.....and you see Hispanic/Latino people in Taco Bell. [01:56] DaemonFC It's like what are you doing? [01:56] techrights-bot/fn " #GPULab is a turnkey JupyterLab Notebook environment atop a feature-packed #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux operating system." https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/california-technology-company-launches-fixed-price-unlimited-gpu-rental-platform-for-deep-and-machine-learning-projects [01:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.digitaljournal.com | California Technology Company Launches Fixed-Price Unlimited GPU Rental Platform For Deep and Machine Learning Projects - Digital Journal [01:57] DaemonFC It's mostly the teenagers too. They apparently have gone native. ● Jun 19 [02:03] techrights-bot/fn #DaftPunk Most Popular Artist to Code to https://smallbiztrends.com/2021/06/popular-songs-coding.html [02:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-smallbiztrends.com | These are the Most Popular Songs to Code To - Small Business Trends [02:05] techrights-bot/fn This #proprietarySoftware would only add holes to your system. I think nobody should accept such a 'solution' with that level of system access. https://www.neowin.net/news/anydesk-632/ [02:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.neowin.net | AnyDesk 6.3.2 - Neowin [02:07] techrights-bot/fn #Racism and #Inequality may be connected, but not the same thing and it's wrong to conflate them. Sometimes the rich people use racism to distract from the inequality. Tribalism to distract from class. https://www.complex.com/life/vancouver-anti-racism-coalition-interview [02:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Anti-Racism Coalition of Vancouver Fights Canadian Inequity | Complex CA [02:09] techrights-bot/fn This article is based on #microsoft proxies like #blackduck and Microsoft #proprietarySoftware like #github ... this is the sort of farcical 'journalism' that makes me cynical. https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/18/what-is-open-source/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Black_Duck [02:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-What is open source? | VentureBeat [02:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Black Duck - Techrights [02:13] techrights-bot/fn GPUs and Graphics on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152449 [02:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | GPUs and Graphics on Linux | Tux Machines [02:17] DaemonFC MinceR, So, "Loki" establishes that if you're near a major disaster with no survivors, then nothing you do beforehand is going to make a difference to the timeline. But they used that to push global warming crap. [02:18] DaemonFC One of the disasters that they visit so far is at a big box store in Alabama in 2051, which is having a hurricane unlike anything that's ever happened before. [02:18] schestowitz Loki? [02:18] DaemonFC And he mentioned the "climate disaster of 2048". [02:18] DaemonFC Yeah, the Disney Plus series. [02:18] schestowitz not the game thing... [02:18] MinceR :> [02:18] schestowitz ah, no idea about that [02:19] DaemonFC It's more of this panic that they use. [02:19] DaemonFC They have to make it sound like we're on the brink of disaster, then it doesn't happen when they say it will, so they move the clock. [02:19] DaemonFC It's like Climate Disaster Millerites. [02:20] MinceR it's unlikely to be a drastic event [02:20] DaemonFC There will STILL be children in public school in 2081 hearing that if we don't do something, the world will end by 2100. [02:20] MinceR more like a slow, gradual things going to shit process [02:20] techrights-bot/fn #geminiProtocol is simple and easy. Ongoing debate about whether to put compression in it (like gzip in www) https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006716.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006718.html [02:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | a space case for transparent gemtext compression [02:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | a space case for transparent gemtext compression [02:20] DaemonFC more like a slow, gradual things going to shit process [02:20] DaemonFC Climate? Not so much. People? Yeah. [02:20] techrights-bot/fn " #Lagrange already supports opening Zips and browsing gemtext from it. So... there you go. There's your compression." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006724.html [02:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.orbitalfox.eu | a space case for transparent gemtext compression [02:20] DaemonFC Never been dumber. [02:20] DaemonFC Especially the ones that went to college in many cases. [02:21] MinceR funny thing (sort of), increasing CO2 levels do make people dumber [02:21] DaemonFC Some of them are smart within their field. Not all of them, either. [02:21] activelow the doomsday scenario is a misconception implying everyone would equally suffer and die from disaster [02:21] techrights-bot/fn #ibm is chasing ghosts https://www.forbes.com/sites/moorinsights/2021/06/15/ibm-and-fraunhofer-announce-german-quantum-computing-partnership/ [02:21] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.forbes.com | IBM And Fraunhofer Announce German Quantum Computing Partnership [02:22] DaemonFC At best, Matthew Garrett would be almost like an idiot savant. [02:22] MinceR yeah, which also omits the climate migration that it will trigger [02:22] DaemonFC He's an aspie that drank the liberal kool aid. [02:22] DaemonFC But he knows how to write software. [02:23] techrights-bot/fn #reputationLaundering for corporations, trying to hijack race issues to paint evil companies with #sweatshops and #proprietarySoftware like they're some kind of charities. https://www.fastcompany.com/90646834/only-4-8-of-designers-are-black-herman-miller-adobe-and-gap-unveil-a-plan-to-change-that [02:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.fastcompany.com | 4.8% of designers are Black. Herman Miller, Adobe, Gap to change that [02:23] DaemonFC schestowitz, "Excuse me. Aren't you the same Apple that has the suicide nets outside your iPhone factory?". :) [02:24] phobos/fn https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unemployment-benefits-states-end-federal-aid/ [02:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cbsnews.com | Half of states are ending increased unemployment benefits as governors say businesses need workers - CBS News [02:24] techrights-bot/fn Red Hats migration toolkit for virtualization helps move VMs into software #containers https://siliconangle.com/2021/06/15/red-hats-migration-toolkit-virtualization-helps-move-vms-software-containers/ [02:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Red Hat's migration toolkit for virtualization helps move VMs into software containers - SiliconANGLE [02:24] DaemonFC Eventually, many more businesses will just say fuck it and move to another state. [02:25] DaemonFC It's not really all that hard sometimes. You move some machines. Tell employees to move or they don't have a job anymore. [02:25] DaemonFC Pretty soon the business, jobs, and tax money aren't in Illinois, New York, or California anymore. [02:26] DaemonFC The only businesses that seem hell bent on staying in a blue state are banks, and that's because they can just rip off their customers way more than what being in a state that Cuomo, Pritzker, and Newsom run costs them. [02:26] techrights-bot/fn More acronyms and buzzwords, basically describing what processors have done for more than half a century :-) https://blocksandfiles.com/2021/06/15/intel-im-already-the-biggest-dpu-shipper/ how about the ludicrous "HEY HI" hardware? [02:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-blocksandfiles.com | Intel: Im already the biggest DPU shipper Blocks and Files [02:26] *psydroid has quit (connection closed) [02:26] DaemonFC immibis might criticize working at Walmart, but they pretty much have to be in Illinois to do business with people in Illinois. [02:27] DaemonFC It's probably the closest thing there is to an employer who won't give up and move to the middle of fucking nowhere in Indiana to save on taxes. [02:27] DaemonFC Not everyone in Illinois will leave, but at some point a sovereign default is going to happen. [02:27] techrights-bot/fn "From its beginning in 2008, Samvera (originally called Hydra) set out to build a community to support and sustain its software, which is free and open source" https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/543814073/samvera-advances-community-sourced-repository-solutions-as-oasis-foundation-as-a-service-partner [02:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.einnews.com | Samvera Advances Community-Sourced Repository Solutions as OASIS Foundation-as-a-Service Partner - EIN Presswire [02:28] DaemonFC Then there will be deep budget cuts because you can't spend when there's no money. [02:28] DaemonFC That you can be certain of, unlike global warming leading to a disaster. [02:28] activelow which is disaster already, but anyway [02:28] DaemonFC Banks are willing to entertain the idea of a state that is badly in debt and will have to raise taxes. They are not willing to extend that forever. [02:29] DaemonFC At some point it becomes more likely than not that they lose their investment and they cut the state off. [02:29] techrights-bot/fn #Intel is now trying to 'innovate' in buzzwords and marketing, basically doing a slant on CPUs along the lines of "big data" or "Hey Hi" https://itwire.com/business-it/intel-introduces-its-infrastructure-processing-unit-for-better-data-centre-efficiency.html Intel is in trouble: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [02:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-iTWire - Intel introduces its Infrastructure Processing Unit for better data centre efficiency [02:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [02:29] DaemonFC Until then, they just keep raising the interest rate to account for the risk. [02:30] activelow this isn't how banking operates [02:30] activelow what banks require is securities/assets [02:30] techrights-bot/fn "Im returning my book to the library this week, 467 days after I borrowed it. And there is no fine." https://www.expressnews.com/opinion/commentary/article/Commentary-In-praise-of-the-fine-free-library-16247309.php [02:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.expressnews.com | Commentary: In praise of the fine-free library book [02:30] activelow otherwise their imagination isn't limited by anything to invent new finance utilities [02:31] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-180621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-180621.txt Read the log now... [02:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Friday, June 18, 2021 [02:31] activelow what banks cannot invent by falsifying balance sheets is securities/assets [02:31] techrights-bot/fn About time for them to port this to #gnu #linux ... as WINE isn't the way to go. https://www.neowin.net/news/notepad-81/ [02:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.neowin.net | Notepad++ 8.1 - Neowin [02:31] activelow henceforth, for example, in germany they began to imagine securities/assets with the "renewable" money laundring scam [02:32] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-180621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-180621.txt Read the log now... [02:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Friday, June 18, 2021 [02:32] activelow accounting the value of solar and wind turbines 100times their real value [02:32] DaemonFC The real reason why losing those power plants won't hurt the state of Illinois so much is because the areas they're in are a fucking ghost town of dead industry and population decline anyway. [02:32] techrights-bot/fn "Fortunately, that's because the system in question was Marvin Minsky's 1967 implementation of a Universal Turing Machine, which, despite its momentous theoretical importance for the field of computer science, had never actually been built into a real-world computer." https://www.csoonline.com/article/3620948/10-old-software-bugs-that-took-way-too-long-to-squash.html [02:32] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.csoonline.com | 10 old software bugs that took way too long to squash | CSO Online [02:33] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-180621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-180621.txt Read the log now... [02:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Friday, June 18, 2021 [02:33] DaemonFC Someone I was talking to about Waukegan said she lived here in 1979 and they were talking about lakefront redevelopment _then_. [02:33] DaemonFC Then again, government. [02:34] DaemonFC They've had people digging a giant hole near Chicago to deal with storm runoff. [02:34] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180621.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180621.txt Read the log now... [02:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Friday, June 18, 2021 [02:34] DaemonFC Because yadayada the environment. That never ends. [02:34] DaemonFC They took a bunch of property with eminent domain and never did anything with it. [02:34] DaemonFC Then again, it's Illinois. So there's a lot of people that wish the government would take their house using eminent domain. [02:35] techrights-bot/fn "We spoke to William Morgan, CEO of Buoyant and co-creator of Linkerd, to find out more about service mesh and why the shift is happening." https://betanews.com/2021/06/17/service-mesh-moving-istio-linkerd-qa/ [02:35] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-betanews.com | Why service mesh adopters are moving from Istio to Linkerd [Q&A] [02:36] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft 'engineering' skills http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152391#comment-29990 #proprietarySoftware so nothing lost. Keep it offline for good... we'll be better off this way. [02:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft loves Linux so much that packages.microsoft.com has fallen and can't get up | Tux Machines [02:37] activelow germany is bancrupt, social and polital bancruptcy, not economically bancrupt yet [02:37] activelow *political [02:37] techrights-bot/fn From #proprietarySoftware #clownComputing ... one malicious trap to the other. https://searchvmware.techtarget.com/tip/How-to-migrate-VMware-VMs-to-AWS-with-ease [02:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-searchvmware.techtarget.com | How to migrate VMware VMs to AWS with ease [02:37] DaemonFC https://www.wane.com/dont-miss/theres-a-castle-for-sale-in-southern-indiana/ [02:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Theres a castle for sale in southern Indiana | WANE 15 [02:38] DaemonFC You can buy an actual castle in Indiana and live in it for $400,000. That's less than what a very small house in Chicago costs. [02:38] activelow they are desparate that much now new legislation was passed to "sanction deligitimization of governmental institutions" [02:38] DaemonFC Don't make fun of the government! Or else! [02:38] DaemonFC "Free country!" [02:38] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [02:38] techrights-bot/fn Why You Should Not Use #Telnet for Remote Connections https://www.makeuseof.com/why-you-should-not-use-telnet/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/19/#latest [02:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.makeuseof.com | Why You Should Not Use Telnet for Remote Connections [02:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [02:38] activelow they fear truth and facts being spread by people like me [02:38] DaemonFC Just more of that EU democracy and respect for human rights. [02:39] MinceR :> [02:39] MinceR that "EU democracy", as seen in hungary and poland? [02:39] MinceR sponsored by the ECR and the EPP? [02:40] techrights-bot/fn #freesw teams should DELETE #slack .. it's likely illegal to be using it anyway in #europe https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/18/cutting-slack-when-open-source-and-team-chat-tools-collide/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/20/slack-is-dead/ [02:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Cutting Slack: When open source and team chat tools collide | VentureBeat [02:40] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Slack Committed a Very Major Crime That Can Cost Many Billions If Not Trillions in Damages for Years to Come | Techrights [02:41] techrights-bot/fn *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-06-18.txt [02:41] techrights-bot/fn #Intel is rapidly becoming just a #vapourware and #buzzwords company [02:43] activelow what cannot be ignored anymore was german high court ruling EU/ECB violated their own contracts, some weeks ago [02:44] activelow problem is ECB spendings cannot be terminated without causing mayhem, there's no way out anymore [02:44] activelow and the central bank interventions themselves are ruinous [02:45] techrights-bot/fn #ibm and #google (or GIAFAM) centralisation is not security but the very opposite of it. They want to restrict what people can run, based on what Pentagon-connected companies say https://www.wired.com/story/sigstore-open-source-supply-chain-code-signing/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/11/fake-security-brought-by-lf/ [02:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-A New Tool Wants to Save Open Source From Supply Chain Attacks | WIRED [02:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Fake Security From Linux Foundation and the Monopolies Its Fronting for | Techrights [02:45] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152450 [02:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:47] activelow and with the next elections ahead, an army of covid unemployed, the "energy revolution" failed, uncontrolled mass immigration of which the consequences are obvious in every german city [02:47] techrights-bot/fn "And as mjg59 teaches us, when fact bothers you, ban everyone who talks about it with a CoC." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180621.html#tJun%2018%2002:20:39 [02:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Friday, June 18, 2021 [02:48] activelow the misconception with doomsday scenarios is it would affect everyone equally, in the sense of social justice, which it doesn't [02:49] activelow another misconception is an short-term instantaneous even, when instead it is a prolonged time span of several decades an entire country is ruined [02:51] activelow their "paris agreement" "safe the planet" agenda achieved the opposite of what was supposed to be achieved: such business which had remained competitive with a low energy footprint was ruined already [02:52] activelow they cannot reestablish now what was destroyed in the last decades, especially the last remains of industry, science and engineering which was competitive, particularly in east germany [02:53] activelow temperature anomalies surpassed 10C by far already [02:55] schestowitz ECB is corrupt [02:55] schestowitz it is not run by a criminal [02:55] schestowitz convicted criminal [02:55] schestowitz all those IOs (international orgs) are immune and thus breed criminality [02:55] schestowitz we need to remove this immunity [02:55] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/11/27/breton-lagarde-connections/ [02:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Mister Cash and Madame Bailout | Techrights [02:57] techrights-bot/fn Run git command, check the help that comes with #git and you can usually figure out to do, even without any GUIs. Some people are lazy and embrace #proprietarySoftware like #github which they then CONFLATE with Git https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnAy6aIbIWo [02:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Oh My Git!I'm Bad With Git Let's Relearn It - YouTube [02:58] activelow ECB is desperate [02:58] techrights-bot/fn "DBD::SQLite 1.67_07 (with SQLite 3.36.0) is a release candidate for the next stable DBD::SQLite. This release has a notable change to improve how to deal with Unicode/Latin-1 characters, contributed by Felipe Gasper." http://blogs.perl.org/users/kenichi_ishigaki/2021/06/next-stable-dbdsqlite-will-be-released-around-the-end-of-july.html [02:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Next stable DBD::SQLite will be released around the end of July | Kenichi Ishigaki [blogs.perl.org] [02:59] techrights-bot/fn It is NOT a standard. The 'industry standard' is likely the #gnu program. https://linuxnightly.com/how-to-use-zstandard-compression-on-linux-with-commands/ [02:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-linuxnightly.com | How to Use Zstandard Compression on Linux (With Commands) - Linux Nightly [02:59] activelow they could and did invent financial utilities, yet they cannot invent securities/assets and the active side of the balance sheet, where they are confronted with a politically and socially bancrupt germany ● Jun 19 [03:01] activelow even if Germany wanted to bail out Spain or Italy, it couldn't. We cannot bail-out entire Turkish company either by receiving another influx of 10million of immigrants. [03:04] techrights-bot/fn A white-knuckle ride of open #COVID19 drug discovery https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01571-1 #nature | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/19/#latest [03:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nature.com | A white-knuckle ride of open COVID drug discovery [03:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [03:08] activelow the political bets placed are easily calculated too, which are those who arranged for a comfortable cosy live of multi-cultural happines outside the city ghettos arrange for their status-quo is retained, which requires a level of ignorance unpreceeded, even at historical scales [03:09] activelow which is some multi-culti consumerist paradise is portrayed on TV, meanwhile it is arranged for masses die "a socially compliant timed death" (Mifelder) [03:25] *job (~job@42cscff4sp33s.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [03:29] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #KenShirriff #OpenHardware Deep dive into how the Teensy microcontroller interacts with the Arduino library http://www.righto.com/2021/06/deep-dive-into-how-teensy.html [03:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.righto.com | Deep dive into how the Teensy microcontroller interacts with the Arduino library [03:31] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #ISC End of maintenance for ISC DHC CLIENT and RELAY https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/dhcp-users/2021-June/022495.html [03:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-lists.isc.org | End of maintenance for ISC DHC CLIENT and RELAY [03:31] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Salon #Arizona #election audit takes wild turn: Voter data is transported to a "secret" lab in another state https://www.salon.com/2021/06/18/arizona-election-audit-takes-wild-turn-voter-data-is-transported-to-a-secret-lab-in-another-state/ [03:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Arizona election audit takes wild turn: Voter data is transported to a "secret" lab in another state | Salon.com [03:33] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheNation #Education Computer Screens and Pieces of Paper https://www.thenation.com/article/society/college-remote-learning/ [03:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Computer Screens and Pieces of Paper | The Nation [03:33] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheNation #Education Why Are There Cops in Schools? https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/cops-in-schools/ [03:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thenation.com | Why Are There Cops in Schools? | The Nation [03:34] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheEconomist #Health Mom gets teen Han Kuo-yu haircut to keep him home during #Taiwan 's outbreak https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/06/19/investors-in-technology-need-to-pay-attention-to-corporate-governance [03:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Investors in technology need to pay attention to corporate governance | The Economist [03:37] techrights-bot/fn Our #gnu #linux hero, Ken. https://twitter.com/Reglue/status/1405683376737169408 [03:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-@Reglue: @schestowitz Roy, I was admitted to the ICU with severe sepsis and pneumonia and was applauded by the entire staff https://t.co/NUv6HdxNRc [03:41] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CNN #ProprietarySoftware How Russian threats in the 2000s turned this country into the go-to expert on cyber defense https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/18/tech/estonia-cyber-security-lessons-intl-cmd/index.html [03:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-edition.cnn.com | How Russian threats in the 2000s turned Estonia into the go-to expert on cyber defense - CNN [03:41] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #Newsweek #ProprietarySoftware Most Businesses That Pay Off After #Ransomware Hack Hit With Second Attack: Study https://www.newsweek.com/most-businesses-that-pay-off-after-ransomware-hack-hit-second-attack-study-1601266 [03:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.newsweek.com | Most Businesses That Pay Off After Ransomware Hack Hit With Second Attack: Study [03:46] techrights-bot/fn LIVE: interview with #freenode owner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHsbUBA-j_c [03:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-LRH 499.7 - WTCNDE - YouTube [03:52] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance Chinese apps could face subpoenas, bans under Biden executive order: report https://thehill.com/policy/technology/559112-chinese-apps-could-face-subpoenas-bans-under-biden-executive-order-report [03:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Chinese apps could face subpoenas, bans under Biden executive order: report | TheHill [03:52] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Reuters #Privacy #Surveillance EXCLUSIVE Chinese apps could face subpoenas or bans under #Biden order -sources https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-chinese-apps-could-face-subpoenas-or-bans-under-biden-order-sources-2021-06-17/ [03:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-EXCLUSIVE Chinese apps could face subpoenas or bans under Biden order -sources | Reuters [03:53] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #SDTimes #Privacy #Surveillance SD Times Open-Source Project of the Week: Open Voice Network https://sdtimes.com/sd-times-open-source-project-of-the-week-open-voice-network/ [03:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-sdtimes.com | SD Times Open-Source Project of the Week: Open Voice Network - SD Times [03:55] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheHill Jan. 6 defendant becomes first to face firearms charge under riot law https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/559115-capitol-riot-defendant-becomes-first-to-face-firearms-charge-under [03:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Jan. 6 defendant becomes first to face firearms charge under riot law | TheHill [03:55] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #IrishTimes #Mozambique #militias kidnapping children as tactic in northern conflict https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/mozambique-militias-kidnapping-children-as-tactic-in-northern-conflict-1.4587811 [03:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.irishtimes.com | Mozambique militias kidnapping children as tactic in northern conflict [03:57] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #VOANews #ng At Least 80 Students Missing After Latest School Raid in #Nigeria https://www.voanews.com/africa/least-80-students-missing-after-latest-school-raid-nigeria [03:57] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.voanews.com | At Least 80 Students Missing After Latest School Raid in Nigeria | Voice of America - English [03:58] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Salon #Arizona A second #insurrection : The real mission behind Republicans' absurd Arizona "audit" https://www.salon.com/2021/06/18/a-second-insurrection-the-real-mission-behind-republicans-absurd-arizona-audit/ [03:58] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-A second insurrection: The real mission behind Republicans' absurd Arizona "audit" | Salon.com ● Jun 19 [04:00] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #NBC #Iran election results set to make Elbrahim Raisi president. The U.S. can't forgive his crimes. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/iran-election-results-set-make-elbrahim-raisi-president-u-s-ncna1271248 [04:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nbcnews.com | Borghan Nezami Narajabad: Iran election results set to make Elbrahim Raisi president. The U.S. can't forgive his crimes. [04:00] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #RAIRFoundation Joe #Biden Whitewashes #Islam from Pulse Nightclub Jihad Attack - Blames Guns, Pushes Fake Anti-Gay 'Hate Crime' https://rairfoundation.com/joe-biden-whitewashes-islam-from-pulse-nightclub-jihad-attack-blames-guns-pushes-fake-anti-gay-hate-crime/ [04:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-rairfoundation.com | Joe Biden Whitewashes Islam from Pulse Nightclub Jihad Attack - Blames Guns, Pushes Fake Anti-Gay 'Hate Crime' - RAIR [04:01] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #IndiaTimes #Environment Earth's Trapped Heat Has Doubled From 2005 Levels, Says NASA Study https://www.indiatimes.com/technology/science-and-future/earth-global-warming-nasa-study-542977.html [04:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.indiatimes.com | Earth's Trapped Heat Has Doubled From 2005 Levels, Says NASA Study [04:01] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheVerge #Environment Earth has been trapping heat at an alarming new rate, study finds https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/18/22539924/earth-trapping-heat-climate-change-nasa [04:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theverge.com | Earth has been trapping heat at an alarming new rate, study finds - The Verge [04:03] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #IndianExpress Rule of land supreme, not your policy: Parliamentary panel on information technology to #Twitter https://indianexpress.com/article/india/twitter-india-representatives-depose-before-parliamentary-panel-over-preventing-social-media-misuse-7365054/ [04:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-indianexpress.com | Rule of land supreme, must abide by laws: House panel to Twitter | India News,The Indian Express [04:03] techrights-bot/fn Games: art of rally, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152451 [04:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: art of rally, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and More | Tux Machines [04:04] techrights-bot/fn #LinuxFoundation Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152452 [04:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Leftovers | Tux Machines [04:05] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #IndiaTimes #Twitter questioned on IT law violations, compliance officer appointment https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/twitter-questioned-on-it-law-violations-compliance-officer-appointment/articleshow/83643372.cms [04:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-economictimes.indiatimes.com | Twitter questioned on IT law violations, compliance officer appointment - The Economic Times [04:07] techrights-bot/fn #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, June 18, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:07] techrights-bot/fn #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:16] schestowitz MinceR: [04:16] schestowitz [04:15] he also said that he ran a drug cartel [04:16] schestowitz [04:15] that's kinda strange [04:16] schestowitz [04:15] but he said it [04:16] schestowitz and GNOME FOundation LOL [04:16] schestowitz classy [04:19] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheTelegraphUK #Censorship Royal Academy pulls artists work from gift shop over transphobic views https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/17/royal-academy-pulls-artists-work-shop-transphobic-views/ [04:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.telegraph.co.uk | Royal Academy pulls artists work from gift shop over transphobic views [04:19] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #MorningStarNews #Censorship Acquitted Christian Couple, Attorney Fear for their Lives https://morningstarnews.org/2021/06/acquitted-christian-couple-attorney-fear-for-their-lives/ [04:19] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-morningstarnews.org | Acquitted Christian Couple, Attorney Fear for their Lives - Morningstar News [04:20] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #VOANews #BurkinaFaso With Media Blocked, Burkina Faso's Displaced Denied a Voice, Journalists Say https://www.voanews.com/press-freedom/media-blocked-burkina-fasos-displaced-denied-voice-journalists-say [04:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.voanews.com | With Media Blocked, Burkina Faso's Displaced Denied a Voice, Journalists Say | Voice of America - English [04:22] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch #imperialism #Biden , #China and the New #ColdWar https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/biden-china-and-the-new-cold-war/ [04:22] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Biden, China and the New Cold War - CounterPunch.org [04:23] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #TheSundayTimesUK #civilRights Mustafa Hashem al-Darwish: #SaudiArabia executes man who took part in protests when under 18 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mustafa-hashem-al-darwish-saudi-arabia-executes-man-who-took-part-in-protests-when-under-18-bz0zlpjgc [04:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.thetimes.co.uk | Mustafa Hashem al-Darwish: Saudi Arabia executes man who took part in protests when under 18 | World | The Times [04:23] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CBC #civilRights Advocate calls out #SaudiArabia for 'false promise' on executions after young man put to death https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.6069458/advocate-calls-out-saudi-arabia-for-false-promise-on-executions-after-young-man-put-to-death-1.6069839 [04:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cbc.ca | Advocate calls out Saudi Arabia for 'false promise' on executions after young man put to death | CBC Radio [04:24] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #BBC #civilRights Mustafa al-Darwish: Saudi man executed for crimes committed as a minor https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57492219 [04:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Mustafa al-Darwish: Saudi man executed for crimes committed as a minor - 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[04:25] *psydroid (~psydroid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [04:25] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Trademarks Is a Famous Face a Form of Intellectual [sic] Property [sic]? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/news-anchors-fight-facebook-sag-aftra-1234968110/ [04:25] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Is a Famous Face a Form of Intellectual Property? The Hollywood Reporter [04:27] techrights-bot/fn #npr takes bribes both from #billgates and from #microsoft. Now it's shifting the blame away from Microsoft https://text.npr.org/1007632156 also see https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [04:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-text.npr.org | Biden Tells Putin To Crackdown On Ransomware. What Are The Odds He Will? [04:27] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cjr.org | Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review [04:28] techrights-bot/fn Beinoff-controlled #newsweek is also "shifting the blame away from Microsoft... the public has been warned for decades to ditch Microsoft, now there is a hurry" -iophk https://www.newsweek.com/2021/07/09/will-putins-hackers-launch-cyber-pearl-harbor-shooting-war-1601791.html [04:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.newsweek.com | Will Putin's Hackers Launch a Cyber Pearl Harborand a Shooting War? [04:29] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CommonDreams #Nature 'A Huge Victory': #Biden #USDA Moves to Restore #AnimalWelfare Protections Shredded by Trump https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/18/huge-victory-biden-usda-moves-restore-animal-welfare-protections-shredded-trump [04:29] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'A Huge Victory': Biden USDA Moves to Restore Animal Welfare Protections Shredded by Trump | Common Dreams News [04:30] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #ClimateNewsNetwork #Climate As climate heat worsens, a hungrier world is likely https://climatenewsnetwork.net/as-climate-heat-worsens-a-hungrier-world-is-likely/ #Overpopulation another factor [04:30] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-climatenewsnetwork.net | As climate heat worsens, a hungrier world is likely | Climate News Network [04:31] techrights-bot/fn #clinton https://denvergazette.com/news/nation-world/reporter-who-broke-story-on-clinton-lynch-tarmac-meeting-found-dead/article_939887c0-cf2d-5edc-b553-f31ef6e012e2.html [04:31] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Reporter who broke story on Clinton-Lynch tarmac meeting found dead | U.S. & World | denvergazette.com [04:33] schestowitz [04:31] what do you think? [04:33] schestowitz [04:33] I need to hear it [04:34] schestowitz [04:33] is the video now available as a recording? it should be over [04:34] schestowitz [04:34] maybe, would rather not listen to that awful thing again [04:34] schestowitz [04:34] we wasted time defending a deranged charlatan imho [04:34] schestowitz [04:34] oh wait, it's still going [04:34] schestowitz [04:34] i will show you the timestamp, i remember it [04:35] schestowitz [04:35] i think you're too hard on him [04:35] schestowitz [04:35] he broke freenode [04:35] schestowitz [04:35] his own fault [04:35] schestowitz [04:35] I lost weeks [04:38] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CommonDreams 'Epic Failure of Humanity': Global Displaced Population Hits All-Time High https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/18/epic-failure-humanity-global-displaced-population-hits-all-time-high [04:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | 'Epic Failure of Humanity': Global Displaced Population Hits All-Time High | Common Dreams News [04:45] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CommonDreams #Canada Global Call Goes Out to End Destruction of Canada's Ancient #Forests https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/18/global-call-goes-out-end-destruction-canadas-ancient-forests [04:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Global Call Goes Out to End Destruction of Canada's Ancient Forests | Common Dreams News [04:45] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch Why #Democracies in #G7 & #NATO Should Reject U.S. Leadership https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/why-democracies-in-g7-nato-should-reject-u-s-leadership/ [04:45] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Why Democracies in G7 & NATO Should Reject U.S. Leadership - CounterPunch.org [04:46] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch #Marx in the Afterlife, According to #BobDylan https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/marx-in-the-afterlife-according-to-bob-dylan/ [04:46] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Marx in the Afterlife, According to Bob Dylan - CounterPunch.org [04:48] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch Ilhan Omar, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Everything In Between https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/ilhan-omar-marjorie-taylor-greene-and-everything-in-between/ [04:48] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Ilhan Omar, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Everything In Between - CounterPunch.org ● Jun 19 [05:41] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch Kick 'em When They're Down: #BLM Pushes Sage-Grouse Toward Extinction https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/kick-em-when-theyre-down-blm-pushes-sage-grouse-toward-extinction/ [05:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Kick 'em When They're Down: BLM Pushes Sage-Grouse Toward Extinction - CounterPunch.org [05:41] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch The Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act Will Help Achieve 30x30 Goals https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/the-northern-rockies-ecosystem-protection-act-will-help-achieve-30x30-goals/ [05:41] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act Will Help Achieve 30x30 Goals - CounterPunch.org [05:42] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch #Climate The Urgent Need to Educate America about Climate-Related Migration https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/the-urgent-need-to-educate-america-about-climate-related-migration/ [05:42] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-The Urgent Need to Educate America about Climate-Related Migration - CounterPunch.org [05:44] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #DemocracyNow Clint Smith on #Juneteenth & Reckoning with the History of #Slavery Across America https://www.democracynow.org/2021/6/18/juneteenth_federal_holiday [05:44] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.democracynow.org | Clint Smith on Juneteenth & Reckoning with the History of Slavery Across America | Democracy Now! 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[09:16] immibis it is only an issue because the requirement to work exists. If there is not enough work for someone... then that's hardly their fault and they shouldn't be punished for it [09:17] activelow weimar constition (pre 1933) in germany contained the explicit "right to work" [09:18] activelow *constitution [09:18] activelow since work is the economic and cultural basis of existence a lack of a constitution guarantee thereof is the repressive element [09:18] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CommonDreams #Racism Public Schools Are Not Indoctrinating Kids About Racism. Voucher Schools Are https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/06/18/public-schools-are-not-indoctrinating-kids-about-racism-voucher-schools-are [09:18] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Public Schools Are Not Indoctrinating Kids About Racism. 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So far I have it running in read-only mode gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat [10:01] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CommonDreams After #Iraq #War Authorization Repealed, Calls Grow to 'Do the 2001 AUMF Next' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/06/18/after-iraq-war-authorization-repealed-calls-grow-do-2001-aumf-next [10:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.commondreams.org | After Iraq War Authorization Repealed, Calls Grow to 'Do the 2001 AUMF Next' | Common Dreams News [10:05] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch About That "Border Crisis" https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/about-that-border-crisis/ [10:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-About That "Border Crisis" - CounterPunch.org [10:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:13] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:13] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch #Wildlife #Nature To Save Planet, Solve Twin Crises of Climate Change and Species Loss Together https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/to-save-planet-solve-twin-crises-of-climate-change-and-species-loss-together/ [10:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-To Save Planet, Solve Twin Crises of Climate Change and Species Loss Together - CounterPunch.org [10:14] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [10:14] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch #Grizzlies Saving the Grizzlies of Jackson Hole https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/saving-the-grizzlies-of-jackson-hole/ [10:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Saving the Grizzlies of Jackson Hole - CounterPunch.org [10:14] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [10:34] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #CounterPunch That Little Power Elite Moment is Already Over https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/18/that-little-power-elite-moment-is-already-over/ [10:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-That Little Power Elite Moment is Already Over - CounterPunch.org [10:37] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #Immunity Cop Who Led Strike Team Into Wrong House During Drug Raid Granted Immunity By Eleventh Circuit https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210612/18411346979/cop-who-led-strike-team-into-wrong-house-during-drug-raid-granted-immunity-eleventh-circuit.shtml [10:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Cop Who Led Strike Team Into Wrong House During Drug Raid Granted Immunity By Eleventh Circuit | Techdirt [10:37] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #Internet #ElonMusk's 'Next-Gen' #Broadband Service Is Overheating In The Arizona Desert https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210616/08372447002/elon-musks-next-gen-broadband-service-is-overheating-arizona-desert.shtml [10:37] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Elon Musk's 'Next-Gen' Broadband Service Is Overheating In The Arizona Desert | Techdirt [10:38] techrights-bot/fn NEWS #Techdirt #Internet Letting Newspapers Band Together To Demand Payments From Internet Companies Is Bad For The Internet And Bad For Journalism https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210617/09403347006/letting-newspapers-band-together-to-demand-payments-internet-companies-is-bad-internet-bad-journalism.shtml [10:38] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Letting Newspapers Band Together To Demand Payments From Internet Companies Is Bad For The Internet And Bad For Journalism | Techdirt [10:51] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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It is really my pleasure to upload blog reports about EasyOS, Puppy, DIY hiking gear, and all the rest that have posted about." https://bkhome.org/news/202106/donation-button-removed.html [11:47] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-bkhome.org | Donation button removed ● Jun 19 [12:03] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:03] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:05] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [12:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [12:09] techrights-bot/fn "For nearly one decade there has been talk of #UPower 1.0 while in 2021 that still has yet to materialize for this former "DeviceKit-Power" project but at least now there is UPower v0.99.12 as the first release in two years." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=UPower-0.99.12-Released [12:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Nearly A Decade Later, UPower Still Working Towards 1.0 Release - Phoronix [12:11] techrights-bot/fn Oracle Sends Out Latest Linux Patches So Trenchboot Can Securely Launch The Kernel - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Trenchboot-Linux-Patches-v2 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/19/#latest [12:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Oracle Sends Out Latest Linux Patches So Trenchboot Can Securely Launch The Kernel - Phoronix [12:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [12:13] techrights-bot/fn Digi ConnectCore 8M Mini SOM and Mini Development Kit for Industrial IoT Applications - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/19/digi-connectcore-8m-mini-som-and-mini-development-kit-for-industrial-iot-applications/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/19/#latest [12:13] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.cnx-software.com | Digi ConnectCore 8M Mini SOM and Mini Development Kit for Industrial IoT Applications - CNX Software [12:14] techrights-bot/fn Steam on ChromeOS: Not a Rumor Anymore - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/steam-on-chromeos-not-a-rumor-anymore/ #boilingsteam | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/19/#latest [12:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-boilingsteam.com | Steam on ChromeOS: Not a Rumor Anymore - Boiling Steam [12:49] techrights-bot/fn Links 19/6/2021: Wine 6.11 and Proton 6.3-5 RC http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/proton-6-3-5-rc/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/19/proton-6-3-5-rc/ [12:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Links 19/6/2021: Wine 6.11 and Proton 6.3-5 RC | Techrights [12:51] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152456 [12:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:52] techrights-bot/fn #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152457 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:52] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:53] techrights-bot/fn #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152462 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:54] techrights-bot/fn Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152463 [12:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [12:54] techrights-bot/fn #Kernel : Oracle, UPower, and Linux Plumbers Conference http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152461 [12:54] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Oracle, UPower, and Linux Plumbers Conference | Tux Machines [12:55] techrights-bot/fn #RedHat / Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152460 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:55] techrights-bot/fn #OpenHardware / #Modding Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152459 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:55] techrights-bot/fn #FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152458 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:59] techrights-bot/fn KDE Gets Expandable Tooltips, Larger Clipboard, More Wayland Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152454#comment-29991 [12:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Expandable tooltips and more | Tux Machines ● Jun 19 [13:01] techrights-bot/fn #Microsoft with its #DRM is a waste of time for #KDE ; 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Windows Store Statistics - Kate [13:07] techrights-bot/fn #Libzip 1.8 Released With Support For #Zstd Compressed ZIP Files - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Libzip-1.8-Released #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/19/#latest [13:07] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Libzip 1.8 Released With Support For Zstd Compressed ZIP Files - Phoronix [13:11] techrights-bot/fn Heres Why Switching to Linux Makes Sense in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152464 [13:11] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | Heres Why Switching to Linux Makes Sense in 2021 | Tux Machines [13:14] techrights-bot/fn #PostgreSQL Related Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152465 [13:14] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL Related Releases | Tux Machines [13:49] techrights-bot/fn They mean #patents rather than ownership and patents are nor ownership https://www.osborneclarke.com/insights/car-wars-tech-ownership-battles-will-decide-future-leaders-autonomous-vehicles/ [13:49] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.osborneclarke.com | Car wars: how tech ownership battles will decide the future leaders of autonomous vehicles - Osborne Clarke | Osborne Clarke [13:51] techrights-bot/fn Fraudsters who run the #EPO pretend to be champions of science by giving prize to actual scientists https://www.socialpost.news/chemist-robert-grass-of-vorarlberg-received-the-european-inventor-prize/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/epo-eia-hush-money/ [13:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.socialpost.news | Chemist Robert Grass of Vorarlberg received the European Inventor Prize [13:51] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | EPO Already Wasting Money on Media Manipulation Campaigns for European Inventor Award | Techrights [13:53] techrights-bot/fn #patents that kill https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/953229 [13:53] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.medscape.com | How Patent Extensions Keep Some Drug Costs High [13:55] techrights-bot/fn #Patents are not rights, but lawyers love deluding themselves and misleading the public https://www.carpmaels.com/restoring-inadvertently-lapsed-patent-rights-in-europe/ [13:55] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Restoring inadvertently-lapsed patent rights in Europe - Carpmaels & Ransford [13:56] techrights-bot/fn There is no such thing as "EU patent office". This is worse than a joke! https://www.latestly.com/socially/world/europes-top-court-annulled-a-decision-by-the-eu-patent-office-to-limit-the-scope-of-u-s-latest-tweet-by-reuters-2556479.html [13:56] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Europe's Top Court Annulled a Decision by the EU Patent Office to Limit the Scope of U.S. ... - Latest Tweet by Reuters | LatestLY ● Jun 19 [14:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cgxaa8qnj3y4i.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [14:02] techrights-bot/fn Some of the nutty #patent lawyers want #patents to last for a lifetime https://shelstonip.com/insights/publications/dead-or-alive-statuses-patent-expiries-and-kind-codes-part-1/ see http://techrights.org/2018/04/22/shelston-ip-patent-lobbying/ http://techrights.org/2017/09/22/shelston-ip-swpats-rant/ http://techrights.org/2017/11/15/government-australia-fixes-policy/ http://techrights [14:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://shelstonip.com/insights/publications/dead-or-alive-statuses-patent-expiries-and-kind-codes-part-1/ ) [14:02] techrights-bot/fn .org/2016/05/14/australia-kil [14:02] techrights-bot/fn Community News on a REAL community called "Fedora"... not an #IBM sandbox. https://www.communitynews.org/towns/lawrence-gazette/fedora-cafe-joins-forces-with-share-my-meals-to-fight-food-insecurity/article_fae2aa57-6802-52f0-958d-1287ede96f81.html [14:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Shelston IP Keeps Pressuring IP Australia to Allow Software Patents and Harm Software Development | Techrights [14:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Shelston IP Blames Well-Organised and Appropriately-Connected Open Source Lobby for Ban on Software Patents | Techrights [14:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Australia is Banning Software Patents and Shelston IP is Complaining as Usual | Techrights [14:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights [14:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Fedora Cafe joins forces with Share My Meals to fight food insecurity | Lawrence Gazette | communitynews.org [14:04] schestowitz Some of the nutty #patent lawyers want #patents to last for a lifetime https://shelstonip.com/insights/publications/dead-or-alive-statuses-patent-expiries-and-kind-codes-part-1/ see http://techrights.org/2018/04/22/shelston-ip-patent-lobbying/ http://techrights.org/2017/09/22/shelston-ip-swpats-rant/ http://techrights.org/2017/11/15/government-australia-fixes-policy/ [14:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2016/05/14/australia-kills-software-patent-shelston-ip-and-other-patent-lawyers-up-in-arms/ [14:04] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Australia Kills Software Patent, Shelston IP and Other Patent Lawyers Up in Arms | Techrights [14:05] techrights-bot/fn "The problem with all those COVID Zoom meetings was the incredible boredom of listening to people lying about how busy they were with all the work they were doing from home." https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/04/bofh_2021_episode_6/ [14:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theregister.com | BOFH: I'm so pleased to be on the call, Boss. No, of course this isn't a recording The Register [14:09] techrights-bot/fn Microsoft booster surprised? "According to research from Beyond Trust, the total number of vulnerabilities relating to Microsoft products had risen by 48% comparted to 2019. To break the numbers down, I looked to my go-to for vulnerability statistics, Stack Watch." https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2021/06/19/new-windows-10-security-shock-as-1000-vulnerabilities-revealed/ see h [14:09] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.forbes.com | Windows 10 Security: 1,000 Vulnerabilities Surpass Apple and Google [14:09] techrights-bot/fn ttp://techrights.org/wiki/ind [14:14] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:14] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:15] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [14:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social [14:19] DaemonFC I fully expect that the WHO's new alcohol policy will just miraculously start cropping up into national laws. [14:20] DaemonFC This is how the rich control their cattle. They talk like this behind the scenes and just don't expect it to be reported. [14:20] immibis what do you think of marijuana? [14:21] DaemonFC The COVID vaccination plan ended up stalling out well below the most pessimistic projections based on polling data. [14:21] DaemonFC The polls were saying 72% of Americans would get it and it's come to a grinding halt at slightly more than half. [14:21] immibis did you get it? [14:21] DaemonFC Yeah. [14:22] DaemonFC The fact that nobody trusts the WHO means that they're one of the sources that's doing more harm than good here. [14:22] DaemonFC The alcohol thing is paternalistic at best. [14:23] DaemonFC The state is all knowing and all wise. Probably explains why it completely fucked up social security and the roads and taxes and budgets and education and things. [14:23] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [14:23] DaemonFC But it's here to tell us what to do! [14:26] schestowitz WHO is not about health [14:28] schestowitz DaemonFC: I improved http://techrights.org/irc/ for you and others [14:28] schestowitz so if you are online you can catch up [14:29] schestowitz also in gemini: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi [14:30] DaemonFC schestowitz, One of the first things Biden did was start giving WHO our money again. [14:30] schestowitz that's UN [14:30] schestowitz if you want to abolish UN, I would suggest something better [14:30] schestowitz WIPO also [14:31] schestowitz they lack accountability and competition [14:31] schestowitz they enjoy immunity [14:31] immibis how could a copyright office have competition? [14:31] DaemonFC The WHO report on alcohol is interesting. [14:31] DaemonFC So they're fine with legalizing marijuana, but there's a new war on alcohol. [14:32] immibis alcohol is more harmful than marijuana [14:32] DaemonFC Prohibition didn't go so well, and the fact that the people who organized it thought that they had to stick it in the US constitution hoping to make it impossible to get rid of later suggested that they knew it would end in failure. [14:32] immibis alcohol && !marijuana is an inconsistent position, all 3 other combinations are consistent [14:33] DaemonFC Most states eventually get taken over by supermajorities of one of the two parties and just in case that doesn't go on forever and they don't have absolute power for a few years, they start ramming everything from their agenda into the constitution. [14:34] schestowitz US banned alcohol before [14:34] schestowitz and it was a failure [14:34] DaemonFC It was a major disaster. [14:34] immibis ah they two party system [14:34] immibis https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2021/0616/Hungary-bill-barring-LGBTQ-content-for-minors-tests-EU-acceptance [14:59] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-EU may sanction Hungary over law barring LGBTQ content for minors - CSMonitor.com [14:59] MinceR great, a chance for the EPP to prove that they aren't propping up fidSS anymore [14:59] MinceR a chance they'll probably miss [14:59] DaemonFC WGN talking about "Juneteenth Traditions". [14:59] MinceR because they're the EPP and it's the EU [14:59] DaemonFC The holiday has existed for two days now, and there are "traditions". ● Jun 19 [15:00] MinceR DaemonFC: traditions are oh so important [15:00] DaemonFC You know where it came from. Congress decided that it had to throw them a bone and then hope they don't burn the country down and start looting again because the weather's nice. [15:00] DaemonFC Will it work? Who knows. The news asked some BLM people what it would take to get the _normal_ and ongoing crime to stop and they said "They should pay us to not murder people.". Would that even work? [15:00] techrights-bot/fn " #GCompris is a high quality educational software suite, including a large number of activities for children aged 2 to 10, some of the activities are game orientated, but nonetheless still educational." https://hadron43.wordpress.com/2021/06/18/gsoc21-week-1-building-a-solid-base/ [15:00] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-hadron43.wordpress.com | GSoC21 Week 1 : Building a solid base hadron43 [15:01] DaemonFC I'm convinced that you could pay most of these folks $500 a day not to kill anyone and that many of them wouldn't last two days anyway. [15:01] MinceR thinking is hard; following traditions is easy [15:01] techrights-bot/fn #Bluestar 5.12.11 released. https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ #gnu #linux [15:01] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-BluestarLinux download | SourceForge.net [15:02] techrights-bot/fn #GFX1013 Target Added To #LLVM 13.0 For RDNA2 APUs - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LLVM-13.0-GFX1013 #Phoronix #programming [15:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-GFX1013 Target Added To LLVM 13.0 For RDNA2 APUs - Phoronix [15:02] techrights-bot/fn Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152466 [15:02] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:03] techrights-bot/fn 10 reasons to stick with #MySQL http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152467 [15:03] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 reasons to stick with MySQL | Tux Machines [15:05] DaemonFC https://abc7chicago.com/10809290 [15:05] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-abc7chicago.com | Juneteenth federal holiday: Chicago-area companies like Fifth Third Bank recognize June 19 - ABC7 Chicago [15:05] DaemonFC A Chicago area bank, Fifth Third, which was robbed by a black guy in a hazmat suit a couple days ago, is celebrating Juneteenth. [15:06] DaemonFC More amusingly, Apple is. The company with the suicide nets on their iPhone factories. [15:18] immibis DaemonFC: are you claiming that you can't celebrate a holiday about a race because a person of that race did something bad once? That's pretty racist [15:18] immibis or maybe just dumb [15:18] immibis it would be like saying chinese new year is off because the ccp killed another uiyghur [15:20] techrights-bot/fn " #EasyOS inherits the various #PuppyLinux network connection tools, including SNS, Frisbee, GPRS and PupDial, managed by the Internet Connection Wizard. The Wizard can be launched via right-click on the desktop "connect" icon, or via the "Setup" menu." https://bkhome.org/news/202106/internet-connection-wizard-deprecated.html #gnu #linux [15:20] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-bkhome.org | Internet Connection Wizard deprecated [15:20] DaemonFC Blaming white people for slavery is like blaming Asian people living today, at random, for Pearl Harbor. [15:20] DaemonFC Yet, it seems the majority of the black community and the media do plenty of this anyway. [15:20] immibis DaemonFC: it's like saying you can't celebrate christmas because a white person owned a slave [15:21] DaemonFC It's easy to blame an entire race for something that happened 200 years ago. Certainly easier than explaining why there's riots and looting and arson by a group who failed to make a damned thing out of themselves despite 150 years of emancipation and 80 years of a big fat welfare state. [15:22] techrights-bot/fn "A Kubernetes sandbox project has begun to find a niche in enterprise IT organizations via #OpenShift Virtualization, despite criticisms from analysts." [sic] (paid-for shills) ttps://searchitoperations.techtarget.com/news/252502644/OpenShift-Virtualization-gives-KubeVirt-enterprise-foothold [15:22] immibis DaemonFC: do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing? [15:23] DaemonFC The welfare state? [15:23] techrights-bot/fn Congress Weighs a Moratorium on #FacialRecognition and #Biometric #Surveillance Technologies https://reason.com/2021/06/15/congress-weighs-a-moratorium-on-facial-recognition-and-biometric-surveillance-technologies/ [15:23] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Congress Weighs a Moratorium on Facial Recognition and Biometric Surveillance Technologies Reason.com [15:23] DaemonFC Not terrific, honestly. [15:23] DaemonFC Overall. [15:23] phobos/fn hola amigos [15:23] DaemonFC It devalues work and encourages the least productive to be the most reproductive, because there's no personal consequence. [15:23] immibis DaemonFC: Do you think blaming an entire race for something that happened 200 years ago is a good thing or a bad thing? [15:24] DaemonFC I'm not just saying this about black people, you know. [15:24] DaemonFC Mom's ex husband reproduced and they multiplied and multiplied like a cancer. [15:24] techrights-bot/fn Bubble in the making with possibly #fakepatents https://stockstelegraph.com/2021/06/18/entera-bio-ltd-entx-stock-skyrockets-after-being-granted-european-patent/ #epo gives many #patents without validity https://techrights.org/2018/05/08/when-granting-patents-in-error-forward-pharma-and-boa-ptab/ [15:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-stockstelegraph.com | Entera Bio, Ltd. (ENTX) Stock Skyrockets After Being Granted European Patent | Stocks Telegraph [15:24] DaemonFC He had almost three dozen children+grandchildren+great grandchildren and he was only 59 when he died. [15:24] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-techrights.org | Forward Pharma an Example of the Devastating Effect of Granting Patents in Error A Problem Appeal Boards Must Correct | Techrights [15:24] immibis We shouldn't have a welfare state, we should have a productivity state and a risk-taking state (because taking risks is productive, remember) enabled by a guaranteed minimum standard of living [15:25] DaemonFC It's like, at some point you stop naming them and start handing out numbers. [15:25] immibis If you are not at risk of homelessness or starvation if your business goes bust, you can try out a lot more business ideas [15:25] DaemonFC Well, it's fucking stupid to encourage people to reproduce when they can't afford it. [15:25] DaemonFC They'll just keep generational poverty going. There's no incentive to better yourself. [15:25] immibis DaemonFC: People are going to reproduce if they feel like it. The less they can afford it, the more they feel like it. Are you a proponent of eugenics? [15:25] immibis DaemonFC: Do you think blaming an entire race for something that happened 200 years ago is a good thing or a bad thing? [15:26] techrights-bot/fn There is no such thing as "EU patent office"; this is the second time this past week that I see this error https://www.streetwisereports.com/article/2021/06/17/entera-bio-granted-patent-for-oral-parathyroid-hormone-by-eu-patent-authority.html [15:26] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.streetwisereports.com | Entera Bio Granted Patent for Oral Parathyroid Hormone by EU Patent Authority [15:26] DaemonFC They hold onto a grudge as a way of deflecting blame and personal responsibility. [15:27] DaemonFC It's not really about slavery or anything at this point. It's that they know that without constant bashing of white people they'd have to do some introspection about where they've been lately. [15:27] immibis DaemonFC: Do you think blaming an entire race for something that happened 200 years ago is a good thing or a bad thing? [15:27] DaemonFC The point is that if they ever let up on the whole poor me poor me act, people will get a chance to say "Hey, about those riots and looting and the arson and stuff....". [15:28] techrights-bot/fn "One thing NFTs, DeFi and dApps sharelike cryptocurrencies, they lack regulatory oversight and are subject to controversy, hacks and fraud." Wow... you don't say... https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/blockchain-innovations-and-real-estate-9780188/ [15:28] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-Blockchain Innovations and Real Estate: NFTs, DeFis and dApps | Pillsbury - Gravel2Gavel Construction & Real Estate Law - JDSupra [15:28] DaemonFC Well, schestowitz does it. [15:28] DaemonFC Like I personally went in with a musket and shot me some injuns. [15:28] immibis why are you still allowed on a computer? [15:28] DaemonFC These BLM promoters need to be banned from writing anything. [15:29] DaemonFC All they are is a bunch of losers who want to stir the shit all the time. [15:30] immibis you seem to be stirring a lot of shit right now [15:30] immibis are you a bunch of losers? [15:31] DaemonFC I'm not the one complaining about something that happened to one of my ancestors 200 years ago. [15:31] DaemonFC For that matter, I couldn't even name one of them. [15:31] DaemonFC So, like, what's it to me? [15:31] DaemonFC I don't give a shit. [15:33] techrights-bot/fn Could gaming help treat depression and anxiety? https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/people/arid-40316255.html "in a co-ordinated centre of research excellence." [15:33] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.irishexaminer.com | Could gaming help treat depression and anxiety? [15:33] techrights-bot/fn Commercial video games could help treat mental health issues: Study | Lifestyle https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/lifestyle/1616886-commercial-video-games-could-help-treat-mental-health-issues-study #devdiscourse | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/19/#latest [15:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.devdiscourse.com | Commercial video games could help treat mental health issues: Study | Lifestyle [15:34] -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:34] DaemonFC What does it matter? Some day I'll be dead. Nobody 200 years from now will know I existed or care. [15:34] DaemonFC I'm fine with that. It's how things are. [15:34] DaemonFC If I did have children, then people 200 years from now still wouldn't give a shit that I existed. [15:35] DaemonFC So, like, even bothering to have kids is just a waste of time and resources. [15:35] DaemonFC And it would maybe just serve to make me feel guilty that I could have done more or better. Who needs that? [15:35] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:36] immibis DaemonFC: So do you think blaming an entire race for something that happened 200 years ago is a good thing or a bad thing? [15:37] immibis you never answered that [15:37] immibis you implied it but you didn't directly answer it [15:37] DaemonFC People have developed "negative emotions" over the course of our existence to further "good for the species". [15:37] DaemonFC Unfortunately, a lot of people don't have any noble tendencies and so nothing keeps them in line. [15:37] DaemonFC It's not selected for. [15:37] DaemonFC Then we all have to suffer. [15:38] DaemonFC Teaching certain people that there's no consequences and that they have nothing to feel bad for no matter what they do can only result in things like the riots and looting that we experienced last year, and the murders that plague Chicago. [15:39] DaemonFC DaemonFC: So do you think blaming an entire race for something that happened 200 years ago is a good thing or a bad thing? [15:39] immibis people are not taught that, they learn it from experience because it's the truth. Maybe we should fix that so it's not? [15:39] DaemonFC I think it's ridiculous to even consider what happened 200 years ago except in a historic sense of the word. [15:39] DaemonFC They act like it's ongoing and that people today are implicated. That's ridiculous. [15:39] DaemonFC people are not taught that, they learn it from experience because it's the truth. Maybe we should fix that so it's not? [15:39] immibis DaemonFC: do you think blaming an entire race for something that happened 3 days ago is a good thing or a bad thing? [15:40] DaemonFC BLM is one of the reasons why there's no consequences for that group. [15:40] DaemonFC It's racist to punish them. [15:40] DaemonFC If you're any other race, the law comes down and it comes down hard. [15:40] DaemonFC That's why you didn't see any white people taking part in the troubles going on in Chicago last year. [15:41] immibis DaemonFC: do you think blaming an entire race for something that happened 3 days ago is a good thing or a bad thing? [15:41] DaemonFC Well, the majority either took part in it or will condemn you for stating the truth about what got us there. [15:42] immibis DaemonFC: what is the difference between saying the majority of black people took part in looting, and saying the majority of white people took part in slave ownership? [15:42] DaemonFC Although much of it are these namby-pamby folks like Matthew Garrett. [15:43] DaemonFC The majority of white people living today in America have never owned a black slave. [15:43] DaemonFC Fairly confident in that. [15:44] immibis and the majority of black people living today in America have never set a federal building on fire [15:44] DaemonFC Garrett was complaining about working conditions at Google for crying out loud. [15:44] DaemonFC One of those tech companies that has probably 2-3 black people working there. [15:45] immibis DaemonFC: why is it relevant that the majority of white people living today in America have never owned a slave, but not relevant that the majority of black people living today in America have never set a federal building on fire? [15:45] DaemonFC I wonder how long he'd last if he had to work 9-5 doing something he really hated for a wage that hardly kept the bills paid. [15:45] DaemonFC That's what most people have to put up with. [15:46] DaemonFC Well, those people in Portland haven't managed to set the ICE building on fire. [15:46] DaemonFC They just keep getting pepper sprayed and they go away for the night. [15:46] DaemonFC Nothing like a criminal record that accomplished nothing, is there? [15:46] immibis DaemonFC: why is it relevant that the majority of white people living today in America have never owned a slave, but not relevant that the majority of black people living today in America have never TRIED TO set a federal building on fire? [15:47] DaemonFC When white people see something they want, they generally figure out a way to pay for it. [15:47] immibis it really seems like you apply different criteria to white people and to black people [15:47] DaemonFC Not smash open the case and run off because if anyone gets in trouble, it'll be the cop that tried stopping them. [15:47] immibis this is false btw. Plenty of thieves are white [15:48] DaemonFC That's privilege. [15:48] DaemonFC Knowing you have a get away with anything license. [15:49] DaemonFC For a very long time, Walmart had a policy of locking up high theft items in general. [15:49] DaemonFC It then announced that it would stop doing that with hair care products for black women. [15:49] immibis DaemonFC: you are deflecting from the actual question [15:49] immibis DaemonFC: why is it relevant that the majority of white people living today in America have never owned a slave, but not relevant that the majority of black people living today in America have never TRIED TO set a federal building on fire? [15:49] DaemonFC It didn't stop being a high theft item, it just became politically incorrect to have the optics, but nothing else changed. [15:50] DaemonFC Maybe they need to stop locking up video games. It kind of lumps teenagers into the same bag, doesn't it? [15:51] DaemonFC I'd actually have more respect for them if they did channel their destructive energy into something positive. [15:51] DaemonFC But that's an aside. [15:52] DaemonFC Now that Biden's been in office for several months, the news is acting like it's the great enlightenment for immigration, when he's actually meaner to some of them than Trump was. [15:52] DaemonFC Deliberately flying them 400 miles down and dropping them off in a different part of Mexico. [15:53] immibis is that not a great enlightenment for immigration? [15:55] DaemonFC They're celebrating "back to normal". The normal that brought us to Trump in the first place. [15:55] DaemonFC I just think that's odd. [15:55] immibis DaemonFC: why is it relevant that the majority of white people living today in America have never owned a slave, but not relevant that the majority of black people living today in America have never tried to set a federal building on fire? [15:56] immibis why can we blame all black people for federal buildings being set on fire? [15:56] DaemonFC Hey Jackass was banned from Facebook just for pointing out crime information published by the government in the first place. [15:56] DaemonFC Perhaps by using pie charts it became racist. [15:57] DaemonFC 87.8% of the shooting victims/assailants are black. 3.7% are white. [15:57] DaemonFC That's sort of a chasm, you know. [15:57] DaemonFC Almost all of them are men too. [15:57] DaemonFC Then there's the carjacking surge. I guess it's good for me that I drive a piece of shit that wouldn't be worth anything down at a chop shop. [15:58] DaemonFC The best way to live in a high crime area is make it look like you're as broke as any of them are. [15:58] DaemonFC It lowers the incentive to try to rob you. [15:59] DaemonFC Out of almost 700 homicides so far this year in Chicago, which involved a gun, only 3 of them were a cop that shot someone. [15:59] immibis tell me when you're done with this rant so I can ask the question you're avoiding again ● Jun 19 [16:00] DaemonFC But pretty much all of the riots and "mostly peaceful protests" were against the half a percent or so where the cop was the shooter. [16:01] DaemonFC Most of the people who aren't outraged by what's going on in Chicago know better than to set foot in Chicago themselves. [16:13] immibis DaemonFC: why can we blame all black people for federal buildings being set on fire? [16:13] DaemonFC They haven't gone for anything like that yet. [16:13] DaemonFC My favorite video was the guy with the trash bag at Sunglass Hut. [16:14] immibis DaemonFC: no federal buildings were set on fire? which buildings was it, that were set on fire? I must have the wrong buildings [16:15] DaemonFC Small businesses in Kenosha. [16:15] DaemonFC Including an entire car lot where they just poured gasoline on all the cars there and torched them for no reason. [16:15] DaemonFC And a mattress store. [16:15] DaemonFC Because slavery, I guess. [16:30] immibis DaemonFC: why can we blame all black people for small businesses in Kenosha being set on fire? [16:55] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:55] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:59] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social ● Jun 19 [17:00] immibis DaemonFC: why can we blame all black people for small businesses in Kenosha being set on fire? 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Do you believe it CAN be objectively right or wrong? [23:21] immibis Do you believe objective truth exists? [23:21] CrystalMath i think that an unreachable objective truth probably exists [23:22] CrystalMath but it's better to be postmodern / skeptical about stuff [23:22] immibis CrystalMath: probably? [23:22] CrystalMath being unreachable, i can't reach it myself to prove its existence [23:22] CrystalMath but i think that our knowledge approaches something [23:23] CrystalMath like the more we learn the more we appear to be approaching something [23:23] CrystalMath simply because science is changing a lot less, exponentially [23:23] CrystalMath like a long time ago (say in 200 AD) we didn't know a lot about the universe [23:23] CrystalMath and now we're debating details about it [23:24] CrystalMath but there's no more doubt that space exists and the stars are giant fusion reactors [23:24] immibis CrystalMath: it seems like your opinion is basically that nothing can ever be known [23:24] immibis CrystalMath: including the fact that space exists [23:24] CrystalMath well some people suggested that in 200 AD, but there was significant doubt [23:24] CrystalMath and now we're 99.9999% sure [23:24] immibis CrystalMath: can we be 99.9999% sure that a certain ideology is wrong? [23:24] CrystalMath and we can be 99.99999999999999% sure after we actually start exploring space [23:24] immibis for example, the ideology that space doesn't exist? [23:25] CrystalMath yes i think that is the case, we're about that sure that that ideology is wrong [23:25] CrystalMath there are still some people who don't believe in space [23:25] CrystalMath i actually know one [23:27] immibis CrystalMath: so you agree that ideologies can be wrong, at least as wrong as possible [23:27] CrystalMath right [23:27] CrystalMath and as long as we stick to the scientific method we won't stray away from a path towards truth [23:28] CrystalMath but that doesn't mean that we should attack those who dream of something else [23:29] immibis CrystalMath: what if it is not a dream, but an attack itself? What if someone is paid by Elon Musk's competitors (who are independently funded) to sow doubt that space exists, so that SpaceX's stock price will drop? [23:30] activelow "space" and time do not exist. those are abstract concepts. what exists are objects such as a watch to measure time, or any object or field which constitute space. [23:30] CrystalMath immibis: that sounds like a conspiracy theory :P [23:31] activelow it is similar to programming languages, with classes and objects, the latter being instatiated into existence. [23:31] CrystalMath anyway, as for why a path to truth is optional - because no purpose can be ascribed to our existence [23:31] CrystalMath so i don't believe in forcing people to follow the scientific method, because well, nothing in science says they must [23:31] CrystalMath science just says you have to follow it to find the truth, but who says you have to find the truth? [23:32] CrystalMath you could maybe live in your own dream world instead [23:32] CrystalMath there's no duty because there's no purpose [23:32] CrystalMath we accidentally evolved here [23:32] CrystalMath we can all die and nothing would shed a tear [23:33] immibis CrystalMath: do you think that banning alt-righters is about trying to change the behaviour of the people who you banned? [23:34] CrystalMath no i don't think so, it's about asserting power [23:35] immibis what is asserting power about? [23:36] CrystalMath idk, dominance, control, etc... [23:36] CrystalMath it's really nasty what those people are doing [23:37] immibis CrystalMath: you appear to be starting from the conclusion you want to be true [23:38] immibis CrystalMath: what happened to the scientific method? [23:38] saint_dogbert/fn schestowitz__, I'm not so sure it doesn't related to tech [23:39] saint_dogbert/fn these same people that are now saying that blacks are too stupid to get an id to vote with, yet can produce one to cash their checks, buy smokes, etc are also the same kind of people that are behind Shitter and Facebook [23:39] saint_dogbert/fn also working for MS and Apple [23:39] CrystalMath immibis: it's just a theory, do you have a different one? [23:39] saint_dogbert/fn and in control of Amazon, and other big companies [23:39] immibis CrystalMath: perhaps you should not leap to conclusions just because they are convenient for your narrative [23:40] immibis CrystalMath: suddenly, when it's convenient, everything is right or wrong to you... immediately after you said we could never know anything for certain [23:41] immibis perhaps you should embrace uncertainty too [23:41] immibis instead of just extolling it to others [23:42] CrystalMath but i'm just so certain about uncertainty :P [23:43] immibis CrystalMath: if you don't believe that banning alt-righters is about trying to change the behaviour of the banned, why do you keep telling us how you don't think it's right to "force people"? Who is being forced, other than the people getting banned? [23:44] saint_dogbert/fn immibis: Why would you think its acceptable to ban people with different opinions and ideology? [23:44] saint_dogbert/fn even if you don't think that, lets pretend you do for a moment [23:45] saint_dogbert/fn brb [23:46] immibis saint_dogbert: why is it acceptable to ban anyone at all? same reason. The fact they have a different ideology is irrelevant