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| acer-box__ | heads is w/o systemd | Dec 30 09:38 |
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| acer-box__ | we gave to elephants last night | Dec 30 09:38 |
| Techrights-sec | Just donated to Tails. I guess that was the last on the list for the year. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | I hope the FSF is in shape again by next year that I can in good conscience | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | donat to them again.k | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, I should also promote Heads. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Elephants are quite interesting creatures. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Very wise and empathic. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | The bulls don't put up with much shit, which is why they stopped using them | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | first in circuses. They'd always rampage eventually and could remember where | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | everyone had run and hid, pull them out and kill them one at a time. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Left in the wild, they are rather peaceful. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Their front leg bones, at least, are solid. And the elephants can hear infrasound | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | So I wonder if they can feel and or transmit through their front legs too, | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | not just the ears. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=heads | Dec 30 10:32 |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-DistroWatch.com: heads | Dec 30 10:32 | |
| Techrights-sec | Listed as dormant. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | Last update was 2018. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | THere has been a run of anti-privacy articles recently. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | The theme is extreme violation of basic rights in order to crack horrible | Dec 30 10:32 |
| Techrights-sec | cases. | Dec 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz | ytalk hung up when I was downstairs doing exercise, I got text ranging from the above [start...finish]. Did I miss anything before or in between/after? | Dec 30 10:38 |
| Techrights-sec | No, that was it. I think. The program disappeared when the disconnection | Dec 30 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec | occured. I have been quiet since then. | Dec 30 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec | Exercise is good. | Dec 30 10:40 |
| Techrights-sec | It's midday and though it seems very bright it measures at under 60 Lux | Dec 30 10:40 |
| schestowitz | Nordic blogger Daniel Anexanderson (not real surname, I forgot) mentioned buying lights, or maybe it was Daniel of Curl | Dec 30 10:41 |
| schestowitz | ytalk deals extremely poorly with terminal resizes, I must remember never to mess with anything there once it is set. Works well only if I leave it with alerts, tinker-free, no disconnections | Dec 30 10:42 |
| Techrights-sec | As for the text, there have been several articles on abusing surveillance. | Dec 30 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec | I wonder if it is part of a campaign. | Dec 30 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Lights are not needed except for video conferencing, which I don't do/ | Dec 30 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec | HOwever, in the other parts of the year, sunglasses are obligatory. | Dec 30 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec | You can run ytalk inside a tmux session. That makes it more robust against | Dec 30 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec | disconnection. | Dec 30 10:44 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe emacs in collaboration mode would be better. | Dec 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz | I was going to try tmux, but then I thought, no... too much extra complexity where not much is needed. I am mostly accustomed to ytalk by now. I tried to resize to see if the buffer had something (recent) above "Just donated to Tails." and you said no, so I assume I lost nothing, not even after " The theme is extreme violation of basic rights in order to crack horrible" | Dec 30 10:45 |
| schestowitz | I wrote a lot about privacy today as it seems to be a theme in general and needs rebutting. I shall do a video in a moment, have not decided on topic yet. OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS! | Dec 30 10:46 |
| schestowitz | I cannot do any video on a subject I'm not really familiar with as that might lead to errors that are impossible to correct (editing text is easier) | Dec 30 10:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Text would be more appropriate than video. WIth text you can think things | Dec 30 10:48 |
| Techrights-sec | through several times over and review and revise. | Dec 30 10:48 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/snitches-wheels-police-turn-car-data-destroy-suspects-alibis-n1251939 | Dec 30 10:48 |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nbcnews.com | Insecure wheels: Police turn to car data to destroy suspects' alibis | Dec 30 10:48 | |
| schestowitz | I saw only this one article about it; it was actually sent to me when an error, only a title but no URL. Had to search the Web and find many copies (also Yahoo) of that same report | Dec 30 10:48 |
| schestowitz | There's already an abundance (I think) of videos and talks about all aspects of spying and privacy, very few on software freedom, so would rather focus on what's scarce | Dec 30 10:49 |
| schestowitz | coming soon. Leak: Today's EPO Breaks Its Contract With Former Staff of the EPO, Not Just Existing Staff | Dec 30 10:50 |
| Techrights-sec | I saw like three or four recently but am not sure if I can gather them all | Dec 30 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec | in one place. I skim through so many. | Dec 30 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec | Software freedom is part of that. Look at the NBC article and see | Dec 30 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec | that part of the core problem is who *really* owns the car. | Dec 30 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec | and its software and the data gathered by the software. | Dec 30 10:51 |
| schestowitz | good point | Dec 30 10:51 |
| Techrights-sec | Wow. EPO management are really crooked. It's truly bizarre that no regional | Dec 30 10:52 |
| Techrights-sec | news covers it. | Dec 30 10:52 |
| Techrights-sec | As for the missing anchor text I should add in an additional check | Dec 30 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | and then maybe use colored alerts or something. | Dec 30 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | I recently forced checking of the XHTML and the script won't upload | Dec 30 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | until everything is valid and well-formed. | Dec 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz | echo ========== QUOTES | Dec 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz | grep \"\" links-after.html | Dec 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz | echo ========== NO ANCHOR | Dec 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz | grep "><\/a" links-after.html | Dec 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz | echo ========== TM | Dec 30 10:55 |
| schestowitz | grep "tuxmachines" links-after.html | Dec 30 10:55 |
| Techrights-sec | Oh. The logic is already there in the merging and culling scripts. | Dec 30 10:57 |
| Techrights-sec | It is just a matter of introducing a fatal error when encountering an | Dec 30 10:57 |
| Techrights-sec | emtpy A or no HREF attribute. | Dec 30 10:57 |
| Techrights-sec | .. while printing out what is there so it can be looked up and completed. | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | I prefer vi for editing those templates but found that I can reduce the | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | number of errors I introduce by using emacs for that instead. | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | I should also move to Rakulang but am lacking the motivation, but am | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | very close to actually getting movign on it. | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | With the NBC article above, the police should be able to get | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | a warrant for the data but they should have to ask the car's | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | owner not Google or the car's vendor. | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | THere was anothef article where the vehicle was stolen and the thief | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | voice was recorded by the car and used to identify him while | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | the car's tracking placed him at the scene of the crime. | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | But I cannot find that specific article. | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/snitches-wheels-police-turn-car-data-destroy-suspects-alibis-n1251939 | Dec 30 11:41 |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nbcnews.com | Insecure wheels: Police turn to car data to destroy suspects' alibis | Dec 30 11:41 | |
| Techrights-sec | That's that one. | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/she-didn-t-know-her-kidnapper-he-was-using-google-n1252472 | Dec 30 11:41 |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.nbcnews.com | She didn't know her kidnapper. But he was using Google Maps — and that cracked the case. | Dec 30 11:41 | |
| Techrights-sec | geofencing | Dec 30 11:41 |
| Techrights-sec | who owns the smartphone and the data it collects? | Dec 30 11:41 |
| schestowitz | will use these links with the vide | Dec 30 11:43 |
| schestowitz | o | Dec 30 11:44 |
| Techrights-sec | The Amazon Ring doorbell is another example like with the cars. | Dec 30 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec | And Google Nest | Dec 30 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec | Dec 30 13:22 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/ | Dec 30 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec | bunch of press releases only | Dec 30 13:22 |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.californialawreview.org/amazon-ring-undermining-fourth-amendment/ | Dec 30 13:22 |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | CIO News | Enterprise IT, Enterprise Technology, Tech Industry News - ET CIO | Dec 30 13:22 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.faylawfirm.com/blog/2020/08/how-your-tollway-i-pass-could-affect-your-divorce/ | Dec 30 13:22 |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.californialawreview.org | Bad Neighbors? How Amazon’s Ring Video Surveillance Could be Undermining Fourth Amendment Protections - California Law Review | Dec 30 13:22 | |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.faylawfirm.com | How your Tollway I-Pass could affect your divorce | Fay, Farrow & Associates, P.C. | Dec 30 13:22 | |
| Techrights-sec | https://www.wbez.org/stories/how-your-private-illinois-tollway-data-is-shared-with-cops-and-divorce-lawyers/cea68ea0-4b13-481a-80a1-50bf0e9db738 | Dec 30 13:22 |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.wbez.org | The Illinois Tollway Turns Over Your I-Pass Data | WBEZ Chicago | Dec 30 13:22 | |
| Techrights-sec | Grauniad: | Dec 30 14:46 |
| Techrights-sec | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/dec/23/amazon-ring-camera-hack-lawsuit-threats | Dec 30 14:46 |
| -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social-www.theguardian.com | Dozens sue Amazon's Ring after camera hack leads to threats and racial slurs | Amazon | The Guardian | Dec 30 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | thanks, I have published a video about this, added some of the links above. I've just made another quick video while Rianne is out (buying food) to explain what software we use... | Dec 30 14:46 |
| schestowitz | would you want to join in over mumble in the future (I don't know how to plug inputs/outputs for quality, but can research if we go down that route) | Dec 30 15:06 |
| Techrights-sec | sure as long as it is not recorded | Dec 30 15:07 |
| schestowitz | OK, let's leave that aside as possibility as thing to explore another day. I still think kaniini is postponing as long as possible, intending to just throw across the VMs without (yet) doing the container-by-container work | Dec 30 15:08 |
| schestowitz | next video: How We Record Videos With Very Low-Budget Gear and Only Free (Libre) Software | Dec 30 15:09 |
| Techrights-sec | I have mumble up and running at xxxxxxxxxxxnet/TR/ but that | Dec 30 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | would be for private conversations rather than forum related stuff | Dec 30 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | I've used it a bit these last few months. The sound is ok. | Dec 30 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | Keep in mind that the videos have a high threshold to cross as a means of | Dec 30 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | conveying information. Many read much more quickly than they can listen. | Dec 30 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | Written material also shows up in the search engines, so maybe the videos | Dec 30 15:11 |
| Techrights-sec | can be your brainstorming for articles? | Dec 30 15:11 |
| schestowitz | sometimes I do video, then text. Sometimes vice versa. Still learning, experimenting, improving a bit. The videos don't take extra time (almost none) and I always put them next to text. | Dec 30 15:12 |
| schestowitz | TBH, I am stupid with "social" web crap. | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | I've often told rianne, where have people gone? | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | why is lxer dying | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | same for Linux Today | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Are people in FB? | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Don't know | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | what comes after social control media? | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | are people flocking to video/youtube? | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | I never saw things like tiktok in action, have no clue what they do | Dec 30 15:13 |
| schestowitz | I do know we must be ready to evolve | Dec 30 15:14 |
| Techrights-sec | I've got to run some xxxxxxx and will be back in about xxxx\hours more or less | Dec 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | I've just checked apache logs. says 19,3k hits on "ogv" for the past 3.5 days | Dec 30 15:18 |
| schestowitz | I think the video can get more visibility and for longer on some topics, I'll probably run out of good topic anyway some time soon | Dec 30 15:19 |
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| Techrights-sec | The TikTok stuff is just a bunch of hyperactive jumping around and | Dec 30 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | the worst editing / cutting imaginable. | Dec 30 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | It seems to be partially affecting other Video forums like Youtube and | Dec 30 18:04 |
| Techrights-sec | LBRY and others | Dec 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | sounds like another useless "phone" 'thing' | Dec 30 18:05 |
| schestowitz | Sounds just like LOSER the Pooh would prescribe | Dec 30 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes. | Dec 30 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec | Pooh Bear is going to break up Alibab and co. | Dec 30 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec | It is. HOwever the groups that grew up on psychotically edited cartoons on TV | Dec 30 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | are of the age they are playing with tiktok. | Dec 30 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | IMHO tiktok serves no other purpose than to mess with peoples' heads and | Dec 30 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | reduce their ability to concetrate while making them more gullible to | Dec 30 18:09 |
| Techrights-sec | propaganda manipulation. | Dec 30 18:09 |
| schestowitz | A long time ago a friend with dodgy views on things inc. the world told me this theory about TV making men gentler and more feminine (example using TV shows with singing, dancing etc.) so that they would not stand up and resist | Dec 30 18:11 |
| Techrights-sec | Far worse methods than just singing and dancing. | Dec 30 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec | :( | Dec 30 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec | Being used. | Dec 30 18:12 |
| Techrights-sec | The main thing with tiktok and snapchat is to get people to mindlessly | Dec 30 18:24 |
| Techrights-sec | "emit" behaviors which can be measured and thus manipulated and thus | Dec 30 18:24 |
| Techrights-sec | monetized. | Dec 30 18:24 |
| schestowitz | I need to read more into those things. I don't participate, except I did in Twitter, so my understanding of it is rather poor (FB the same) | Dec 30 18:25 |
| Techrights-sec | I suspect that the CCC's rC3 has fallen on its face. | Dec 30 19:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Very few talks are up and it is almost New Year's Eve. | Dec 30 19:33 |
| Techrights-sec | Just got a bulk e-mai lfrom FSF. There is no mention of them | Dec 30 19:33 |
| Techrights-sec | making an efort to patch things up with RMS or to appologize to him | Dec 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I am very, very confused | Dec 30 19:33 |
| schestowitz | spent the past 15 minutes running a script from my PC | Dec 30 19:34 |
| schestowitz | which I had to fix | Dec 30 19:34 |
| schestowitz | and now I am back to ytalk, only for chat about "I suspect..." | Dec 30 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I basically lost track of what was intended to happy but assumed a new tmux session had been set up for me to access and I may have lost all communications prior to "I suspect" | Dec 30 19:35 |
| Techrights-sec | I changed topic, I though you were connected again? | Dec 30 19:38 |
| Techrights-sec | But I do not see tmux in ps. | Dec 30 19:38 |
| Techrights-sec | for ytalk to persist across disconnections the tmux session needs to b | Dec 30 19:38 |
| Techrights-sec | e on this machine | Dec 30 19:38 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, that script looks good, but save this text and then try disconnecting. | Dec 30 19:41 |
| Techrights-sec | THen run the script. This ytalk is not in a tmux session on your side of | Dec 30 19:41 |
| Techrights-sec | the conversation. | Dec 30 19:41 |
| Techrights-sec | yway, FSF is sending out bulk e-mails but have not yet patched things up with | Dec 30 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | >nworse | Dec 30 19:55 |
| Techrights-sec | > nsee what I said today | Dec 30 19:55 |
| schestowitz | all their pages autoplay videos with audio _AT THE BOTTOM_ (hard to find) without even JS enabled.. I first noticed that days ago | Dec 30 19:56 |
| schestowitz | side note: I have spent something like half an hour on this whole tmux/ytalk thing without any progress. Was unable to post links, lost focus, will get sleep soon. | Dec 30 19:56 |
| Techrights-sec | yway, FSF is sending out bulk e-mails but have not yet patched things up with | Dec 30 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | RMS | Dec 30 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | In the e-mail? Yes, I saw and have been thinking about it. I'm not | Dec 30 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | good at politics though. | Dec 30 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes there is a lot going wrong there. I'm not sure yet if it is intentional | Dec 30 19:57 |
| Techrights-sec | or just general incompetence. | Dec 30 19:58 |
| Techrights-sec | Either way it is off-putting. | Dec 30 19:58 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm seeing other institutions, some of which have mandates to reach | Dec 30 19:58 |
| Techrights-sec | everybody, blocking everybody using javascript. ,too. | Dec 30 19:58 |
| schestowitz | In the process of all this in and out for tmux I may have lost things you said in the session. making a permanent tmux session without rering and all that would be ideal | Dec 30 19:58 |
| schestowitz | so before I go I want to get this sorted out if possible. | Dec 30 19:59 |
| schestowitz | my rss feeds are 'clean' for now, I just want to forget about all this hassle the past houts, with daemonFC talking nonsense about his personal life and highlighting me at the same time | Dec 30 20:00 |
| Techrights-sec | Sleep or exercise or both. | Dec 30 20:02 |
| Techrights-sec | I had to take a ccccccc cccccc today. | Dec 30 20:02 |
| Techrights-sec | Oh. | Dec 30 20:02 |
| Techrights-sec | I have some tweaks in the other window. I can paste them in a moment. | Dec 30 20:02 |
| Techrights-sec | >tmux now | Dec 30 20:06 |
| Techrights-sec | >can you repeat the last 2 lines? | Dec 30 20:06 |
| Techrights-sec | >I miss the "rhetorical" something | Dec 30 20:06 |
| Techrights-sec | I wonder why he is stationed in TR. | Dec 30 20:07 |
| Techrights-sec | (rhetorical question) | Dec 30 20:07 |
| Techrights-sec | I see with ps that you have tmux set up. I think if you disconnectm | Dec 30 20:07 |
| Techrights-sec | without breaking the script's loop, you will reconnect in progress. | Dec 30 20:07 |
| schestowitz | that is just what the script does. Anyway, I am glad we at least got it set up in tmux | Dec 30 20:07 |
| schestowitz | testing disconnect and reconnect | Dec 30 20:08 |
| schestowitz | hang on | Dec 30 20:08 |
| Techrights-sec | ok | Dec 30 20:08 |
| Techrights-sec | ctrlb+d does it | Dec 30 20:08 |
| schestowitz | OK, done. I terminated the terminal to emulate lost of connection | Dec 30 20:09 |
| schestowitz | no rering crap and clear buffers anymore... :-) | Dec 30 20:10 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Dec 30 20:10 |
| Techrights-sec | are you connected again? | Dec 30 20:10 |
| Techrights-sec | tmux stays running here until power loss or reboot or whatever on this end | Dec 30 20:10 |
| schestowitz | ok, good night, will be back soon, I try 2-piece sleep session this year | Dec 30 20:11 |
| schestowitz | you will see the nature of the crap from daemonFC tomorrow; nothing malicious, just OT | Dec 30 20:11 |
| Techrights-sec | ok gn | Dec 30 20:12 |
| Techrights-sec | medieval sleep patterns work well IMHO | Dec 30 20:12 |
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| schestowitz | can you pls disable tmux clock ;-) ? It's triggering my elery every 1 min :-) | Dec 30 20:16 |
| schestowitz | *alert | Dec 30 20:16 |
| Techrights-sec | ok, it'll take a little to adjust the status bar | Dec 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | no rush, it just gives endless false positives (sound and visual) | Dec 30 20:19 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok. I've turned off the clock. | Dec 30 20:21 |
| schestowitz | puuuurfect. I've put in tuxmachines everything possible for now... news is very slow | Dec 30 20:21 |
| Techrights-sec | Does that fix it? | Dec 30 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know, but that's rare, not as bad as 60x24 times per day | Dec 30 20:22 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok. but the calendar will roll over at night in a bit. | Dec 30 20:23 |
| Techrights-sec | tmux set-option -g status-right " \"#{=21:pane_title}\" %d-%b-%y" | Dec 30 20:23 |
| Techrights-sec | It can be added to .tmux.conf at a later point | Dec 30 20:23 |
| schestowitz | we can be woken up by raspi lights, I think you've made a script for that | Dec 30 20:24 |
| Techrights-sec | yes, but I would prefer to avoid waking anyone up | Dec 30 20:24 |
| Techrights-sec | \ | Dec 30 20:24 |
| schestowitz | if the server is not available, tmux on TR will likely highlight the cause and .htaccess is in bash_history at top right | Dec 30 20:25 |
| Techrights-sec | I should set up some more light notifications here on this end but th | Dec 30 20:25 |
| Techrights-sec | e sounds work (mostly) for now, unless there is a lot of noise or deep slee[p | Dec 30 20:25 |
| Techrights-sec | Oh, I have monitoring down since the other day when the migration was planned. | Dec 30 20:26 |
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