●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 01, 2023 ●● ● Sep 01 [00:10] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:34] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:36] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk ● Sep 01 [01:20] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:26] *jacobk (~quassel@838aynky6btpe.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:30] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk [01:47] *jacobk has quit (connection closed) [01:50] *acer-box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:52] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) ● Sep 01 [02:16] *libertybox__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:24] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:24] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 01 [03:00] schestowitz "AVIF is supported by Chrome, Chromium, Firefox. Ive tested Firefox and Chromium on Linux, Firefox, Chrome and Safari on macOS and iOS, as well as Firefox and Chrome on Android. All work well and the article images are loaded properly. [03:00] schestowitz However, do to the fact that Twitter and Facebook preview cards cannot fetch AVIF images yet, I will continue using WebP for the featured image and AVIF only for the images that I will be insterting in articles. [03:00] schestowitz Cheers! [03:00] schestowitz " [03:02] schestowitz We have added AVIF support ;-) !! [03:02] schestowitz > Awesome, thanks :) [03:04] schestowitz > Btw, the AVIF (AV1) format is up to 70% smaller in size at the same [03:04] schestowitz > picture quality or even better than WebP, so my website and any other [03:04] schestowitz > website would load a lot faster with minimal effort :) [03:04] schestowitz > [03:04] schestowitz > But I guess it will take a while for major players (Twitter, [03:04] schestowitz > Facebook) to fully adopt AV1 they just added support for WebP earlier [03:04] schestowitz > this year now WebP is the star in lossy image formats, but I hope AV1 [03:04] schestowitz > adoption will grow rapidly by the end of the year. [03:04] schestowitz > [03:04] schestowitz > Also, theres JPEG-XL coming fast from behind :) [03:04] schestowitz people have much faster connections now. so I think cross-platform/browser support should also be a factor. many of my machines still lack support for webp. [03:06] MinceR coming from behind, eh? eh? [03:08] schestowitz yes! [03:08] schestowitz RMS: [03:08] schestowitz > > You were recently contacted by one of the allies of Garrett, who [03:08] schestowitz > > intentionally trolls you (he boasted about this in IRC). He said you [03:08] schestowitz > > referred him to the FSF's IT person. [03:08] schestowitz > [03:08] schestowitz > He brought up something for which that was the appropriate reply. [03:08] schestowitz > Maybe he asked us to deleted something posted. It is our sysadmins who [03:08] schestowitz > carry out our policies for personal deletion requests. [03:08] schestowitz > [03:08] schestowitz > I told him we have had no contact with Matthew Garrett for many years [03:08] schestowitz > and he is not a friend of ours, so I did not want to get involved [03:08] schestowitz > in the dispute between him and you, or spend time studying it. [03:08] schestowitz > [03:08] schestowitz > He said one thing that made me wonder, though: that you were fired [03:08] schestowitz > from a job recently and were upset about that. I won't take his word [03:08] schestowitz > for anything, but could you tell me what part of that is true? [03:08] schestowitz I resigned last December after he had doxed me (and my wife too) to the employer. I will forward you something... 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[07:19] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@tqmhqqifyxsti.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 01 [12:15] schestowitz Software patents confirmed: [12:15] schestowitz -------- Forwarded Message -------- [12:15] schestowitz Subject: Re: ... [12:15] schestowitz Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 08:39:52 +0300 [12:15] schestowitz xxxxxxxxxxxxx [12:15] schestowitz To: Roy Schestowitz [12:15] schestowitz On 9/1/23 05:04, Roy Schestowitz wrote: [12:15] schestowitz xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 31/08/2023 18:01: [12:15] schestowitz >> Btw, the AVIF (AV1) format is up to 70% smaller in size at the same [12:15] schestowitz >> picture quality or even better than WebP, so my website and any other [12:15] schestowitz >> website would load a lot faster with minimal effort :) [12:15] schestowitz >> [12:15] schestowitz >> But I guess it will take a while for major players (Twitter, [12:15] schestowitz >> Facebook) to fully adopt AV1 they just added support for WebP earlier [12:15] schestowitz >> this year now WebP is the star in lossy image formats, but I hope AV1 [12:15] schestowitz >> adoption will grow rapidly by the end of the year. [12:15] schestowitz >> [12:15] schestowitz >> Also, theres JPEG-XL coming fast from behind :) [12:15] schestowitz > [12:15] schestowitz > people have much faster connections now. so I think [12:15] schestowitz > cross-platform/browser support should also be a factor. many of my [12:15] schestowitz > machines still lack support for webp. [12:15] schestowitz https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1178058#c406 [12:15] schestowitz https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/04/free-software-group-decries-google-dropping-space-saving-jpeg-xl-format/ [12:15] schestowitz sw patents [12:15] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-bugs.chromium.org | 1178058 - chromium - An open-source project to help move the web forward. - Monorail [12:15] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-arstechnica.com | FSF: Chromes JPEG XL killing shows how the web works under browser hegemony | Ars Technica ● Sep 01 [13:25] *MinceR gives voice to u-amarsh04 schestowitz-TR libertybox__ [13:25] *MinceR gives voice to rianne libertybox_ asusbox [13:25] *MinceR gives voice to Techrights-sec2 jacobk Techrights-sec [13:25] *MinceR gives voice to libertybox ● Sep 01 [17:45] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 01 [18:21] *jacobk (~quassel@2yzyuedawr8pe.irc) has joined #techbytes [18:23] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:34] *jacobk (~quassel@99ed6ukzxymmc.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Sep 01 [19:12] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk [19:32] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:40] *jacobk (~quassel@99ed6ukzxymmc.irc) has joined #techbytes [19:42] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk [19:54] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:54] *jacobk (~quassel@99ed6ukzxymmc.irc) has joined #techbytes [19:57] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk ● Sep 01 [21:13] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:42] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techbytes [21:45] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk ● Sep 01 [23:30] DaemonFC "Sneyers' less optimistic predictions came true, though not with regard to royalties. Apple, Google, and Mozilla got behind AV1F instead. AV1F display support is already baked into Android 12, macOS 13, iOS 16, and a bunch of browsers (though not Microsoft's Edge, curiously)." [23:30] DaemonFC LOL [23:33] MinceR > baked into [...] macOS [...] iOS [23:33] MinceR so how many patents does the MPEG LA own over it? [23:55] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/09/01/google-shows-why-it-has-too-much-power-over-the-web-by-dropping-jpeg-xl-support-more-firefox-musings/ [23:55] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google Shows Why it Has Too Much Power Over the Web By Dropping JPEG-XL Support. More Firefox Musings. | BaronHK's Rants [23:56] DaemonFC "Google sucks. They (and Apple) are causing the very proliferation of pointlessly different formats they accuse JPEG-XL of." [23:56] DaemonFC "There are too many image formats out there that are not clearly different enough from each other. I even have some WebP photos because its all I could get a Web server to give me." [23:57] DaemonFC "One of the problems with all these even better than JPEG formats is the patents, but another is the support, like when you try to send off to Walmarts photo lab for prints. [23:57] DaemonFC My spouses damned iPhone shoots to HEIF files, which are cumbersome to store in an authentic JPEG standard to send to be developed. [23:57] DaemonFC Quite often there is even additional file data which is parsed out, making the thing look a bit worse than if he had a device, like Android, which shoots to JPEG to begin with. [23:57] DaemonFC Im getting real sick of all these damn Google image formats. I was really hoping JPEG-XL would come about and be the de-facto standard for the next 30 years or so. [23:57] DaemonFC But it looks like were in for an endless bout of Google codecs that last 3-5 years before theyre onto something else. They never stop and support what they do. [23:57] DaemonFC At the first chance they get, they will ditch it and run." [23:58] DaemonFC "There are too many image formats out there that are not clearly different enough from each other. I even have some WebP photos because its all I could get a Web server to give me. [23:58] DaemonFC Now Google is walking away from that, and Ill undoubtedly have some AV1Fs at some point too."