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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@RedOwlDr: All of the coverage of Bill Gates being the world's authority on saving us from the new bioweapon (officially a zoo… https://t.co/4bWQFp1ez6 | Apr 02 01:40 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@RedOwlDr: All of the coverage of Bill Gates being the world's authority on saving us from the new bioweapon (officially a zoo… https://t.co/4bWQFp1ez6 | Apr 02 01:40 | |
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| acer-box | All of the coverage of Bill Gates being the world's authority on saving us from the new bioweapon (officially a zooonotic virus) doesn't mention he is the subject of a major investigation involving MIT and Jeffrey Epstein. | Apr 02 01:40 |
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| schestowitz__ | >>>>> hard drives are easy to replace but only worth it if you think the rest | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>>> of the machine will hold on for a few more years. Eventually they cease | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>>> to even power-on self-test. SSDs should be good for the duration of the | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>>> warranty but how rapidly they fail and what if any symptoms they give in | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>>> advance are not well established. | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> The issue turned out to be more profound. | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> Ok. At least you ran it to exhaustion. | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >> This is what I do with all my computers. Until it's more costly to | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >> repair than they're worth. | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> ...> BTW, quite unusually today's "merged" daily links have many repetitions | Apr 02 02:42 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> of yesterday (like timespan is >24hr), but these come in clusters and | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> are thus easy to remove. No need to resent anything, but in case there's | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> a bug or something it may be worth mentioning. Is it run by timer or | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> manually? | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> Thanks for spotting that. I'll have to recheck the de-duplication | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> components. I changed the directory structure on my end last month and | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> seem to have missed something. | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >> It's OK, no rush. Seems like you're getting busy over there like we are, | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >> too. I struggle to make the time to write in TR and topics I cover don't | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >> feel so "urgent" at the moment. So TM took some priority lately... very | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >> important to keep people abreast while our 'competition' is unable to | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >> function. | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > This is an advantage for TR and, relatively speaking, raises the | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > visibility of the topics covered! | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> Later this year I might make another Debian refurb for the now-orphaned | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> external monitor. OR... should I order a Raspi for it? Does it do VGA OK | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> at 1920px? Does it come with Rasp-bian preloaded or how does that work? | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> I assume I can order online. | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > The whole system is stored on a removable microSD card. Any card vendor | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > will do, most grocery stores here even have them around here. If you | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > have the right adapter, you can use dd to burn Raspbian from the main | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > site either by https or torrent: | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > If you want to experiment, get a second card. Then by powering down and | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | > swapping cards you have completely changed systems. | Apr 02 02:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.raspberrypi.org | Download Raspbian for Raspberry Pi | Apr 02 02:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> You recently suggested crafting a raspi for us. Would that connect to | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> the existing orphaned VGA screen I have here? 1920px cross? I can put | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> that next to me in the bedroom for various scripts etc. It would also be | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>>> energy-efficient, more so than a laptop. | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> The Raspberry Pi could more easily be sourced locally, almost all the | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> shops are in the UK and the boards are designed and mostly manufactured | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> in Wales. However, I would be willing to solder a HAT (board) with | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> buzzer and LEDs for notifications. I plan to assemble one myself when | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> the postal situation becomes more clear. Shall I assemble one for you | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> as a present in appreciation for TR and the work for software freedom? | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >> That would be so much appreciate esp. as I lack the experience | Apr 02 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | >> converting the 'raw' product into a plug-and-play with screen and Buster | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | >> onboard. Remember we use different sockets here (electric). I'd pay for | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | >> shipping and everything, plus time. It would still be a lot cheaper than | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | >> a used laptop. | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > 1) Here are the parts, see if the price seems ok. If you get one, it'd | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > be most efficient if you were to order the Raspberry Pi and parts there | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > in the UK since they are sourced very near to you and that would save on | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > both carbon and costs. Shipping next day would be around 3 pounds as | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > far as I know. There are two good distributors: | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://thepihut.com/ | Apr 02 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thepihut.com | The Ultimate Raspberry Pi & Maker Store– The Pi Hut | Apr 02 02:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | > https://shop.pimoroni.com/ | Apr 02 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shop.pimoroni.com | Pimoroni: Raspberry Pi, Adafruit, micro:bit, and Arduino in the UK | Apr 02 02:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > Of the parts, you'd need | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > + the SBC, | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > + a microSD card, | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > + a power adapter, | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > + a video adapter, and | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > + a case. | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > The 2GB RAM model is a lot cheaper than the 4GB RAM model. | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-4 | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > The microSD card can be from any vendor but if you don't have a spare | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > handy you'll need one. Even just 8GB is enough. However, you'd want to | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > erase it and put Raspbian on it at home: | Apr 02 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shop.pimoroni.com | Raspberry Pi 4 – Pimoroni Store | Apr 02 02:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/noobs-32gb-microsd-card-3-1 | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > The adapter is USB-C due to the increased power draw of the model 4. | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > There are two colors: | Apr 02 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shop.pimoroni.com | NOOBS 32GB microSD card (3.3) – Pimoroni Store | Apr 02 02:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-official-usb-c-power-supply | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > Since the latest model has two video ports you could run either one or | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > two monitors off of a single Raspberry Pi Model 4 B. The video adapter | Apr 02 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shop.pimoroni.com | Raspberry Pi Official USB-C Power Supply - UK – Pimoroni Store | Apr 02 02:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | > needs to be a microHDMI to whatever your monitor has. There's not a | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > direct microHTML to VGA or DVI adapter that I can find, so you'd have to | Apr 02 02:44 |
| schestowitz__ | > chain things. The Pi Hut stocks them but does not have any at the | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > moment if you need the DVI model: | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-vga-converter | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > + | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/micro-hdmi-to-hdmi-adapter-cable | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shop.pimoroni.com | HDMI to VGA Converter – Pimoroni Store | Apr 02 02:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | > I think they tend to restock fairly quickly. Though AdaFruit should | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > also have some too and they even ship to Europe. | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > Lastly, a case would be a very good idea. This one leaves space for the | Apr 02 02:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shop.pimoroni.com | Micro-HDMI to HDMI adapter cable – Pimoroni Store | Apr 02 02:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | > HAT to be plugged in on top to the GPIO pins: | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pibow-coupe-4 | Apr 02 02:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-shop.pimoroni.com | Pibow Coupé 4 – Pimoroni Store | Apr 02 02:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > Otherwise, the standard Raspberry Pi 4 case works nicely just not with a | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > HAT. | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > 2) I'll eventually order and assemble the board to go on top some time | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > during the next month after the post office situation is figured out here. | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Thanks for all this information and the links. I'll need to put the number together to come up with a cost estimate and see how that compares with a refurbished laptop that already has a screen included and need not an adapter to run as dual provided it's same ol VGA, which is typical with older ones that still have CD-ROM drive. | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | A few days ago when I went 'hunting' for food I passed by the store that sells refurbs. It was shut, as I expected. I don't want to shop 'preowned' online in case of returns. | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | RasPi still sounds like a slight learning curve for me... hence time. The benefit, in the long run, is lowered energy use. | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | I'll ask Rianne when she gets up as she doesn't like too much gear on the desk. Maybe I can even repurpose her old Chromebook if I get an HDMI adapter. | Apr 02 02:45 |
| schestowitz__ | > There's a lot more where that came from. | Apr 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > Be aware, it's from more than one source but it's not original enough to claim it. If you sit on this until it's ready (Hello, logs! *Wave*) it should be worth the wait. About a week at this rate, give or take. | Apr 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > None of it is really secret, this is all publicly available information. But presenting it in a way that gets the point across should be fun. I won't promise the moon, though you can probably count on a decent article. I already have the how figured out, the gist of it. | Apr 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz__ | There is not much to report at the moment. | Apr 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Not of much impact/value anyway. | Apr 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz__ | So anything we can do to highlight such an unexplored issue would be great. | Apr 02 02:54 |
| schestowitz__ | I still have some UPC coverage on the way. | Apr 02 02:54 |
| acer-box | "https://twitter.com/RedOwlDr/status/1245566694132596738 | Apr 02 05:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@RedOwlDr: @eurekaskastle Bill Gates...The same guy under investigation for involvement in MIT/ Jeffrey Epstein scandal? https://t.co/c2LAnXhhpz | Apr 02 05:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Inside the Free Software Foundation (FSF) – Part VIII: Bill Gates Quietly Leaves Microsoft and Media Focuses Again on His Abuses (Instead of Richard Stallman) | Techrights | Apr 02 05:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | >> Re: FOIA articles | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> There are a lot of articles in the FOIA series to clear RMS. Can you | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> add links in the more recent ones back to the first ones? The | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> WordPress situation for TR is otherwise unnavigable. | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | >> Maybe set up a wiki page instead, then link to it? | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > Perhaps. I'm just thinking that the FOIA action has already passed a | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > half year in delays from the PD. People joining the investigation in | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > the middle will find an article and they need a convenient, obvious way | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > to get back to the first article in the series and then read the rest | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > chronologically. | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | OK. What wiki pages: | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | RMS/FSF series | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Gates series | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe combine the two? We need to think of units/topology first. | Apr 02 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Files OK now | Apr 02 05:57 |
| schestowitz__ | New "other links" updated too, but it seems identical to the one I got an hour ago, so will leave it as us... | Apr 02 05:57 |
| schestowitz__ | Re: Empty files, except other-links-2020-04-02.txt | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> roy@vonick:~$ tail Links/m2020-04/2020-04-02-merged.html | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> <hr /> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> <hr /> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> <hr /> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> <hr /> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> <hr /> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> <hr /> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> <hr /> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> </ul> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> </body> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> </html> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | > It's a problem with relative vs absolute paths again but this time in | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | > the context of deduplication. I've uploaded the fixed merged file now. | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | > I should have the script fixed by tomorrow. I'd like to think about | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | > the work flow a little first. | Apr 02 05:58 |
| schestowitz__ | I have just checked and the only obvious deficit I see it, the <title> <url> one-liner isn't there, likely lost in the latest code change. If the file can be uploaded again with those lines, it will save me a lost of time. I only start work (job) in 11.5 hours. | Apr 02 06:01 |
| schestowitz__ | : | Apr 02 06:05 |
| schestowitz__ | >> New "other links" updated too, but it seems identical to the one I got | Apr 02 06:05 |
| schestowitz__ | >> an hour ago, so will leave it as us... | Apr 02 06:05 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Apr 02 06:05 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Apr 02 06:05 |
| schestowitz__ | > Probably just a filesystem timestamp from saving while exiting. | Apr 02 06:05 |
| schestowitz__ | I checked all the links and they seem to be the same ones I posted. The first one misses an H in "HTTP". | Apr 02 06:05 |
| schestowitz__ | > Sorry. I've done that step manually too now. Tomorrow, all should be | Apr 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz__ | > fully automated after I check the workflow. | Apr 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Cheers. | Apr 02 06:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Works a charm now!!! | Apr 02 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Rianne will soon be awake and I'll show her xfce. She used gnome, kde, unity and her debian laptop has like 7 DEs, but she never used xfce. | Apr 02 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | > Sure but a lot of work has gone into the existing ones. They need | Apr 02 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | > 'patching' to link to each other withing the series. This is the same | Apr 02 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | > issue as with several other series. However, the FOIA does not have a | Apr 02 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | > table of contents so it would be enough just to link to the earlier one(s). | Apr 02 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | the foia tac is, for the time being the gates fdn. wiki index. | Apr 02 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | -viera/#boycottnovell-social-Tux Machines: "My wife was laid off from her work already as an additional burden while I continue to do 100+ hour weeks between #Phoronix content and benchmarking"Please support @michaelLarabelBaby to feed! | Apr 02 06:15 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010420.html#tApr%2001%2016:17:34 | Apr 02 06:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Wednesday, April 01, 2020 | Apr 02 06:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | > This will be a lot better if you wait. I don't usually spend several days on an article. Several hours, sometimes. | Apr 02 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | > Just to give you an idea, here is a graphic you might decide to incorporate. Usually you choose the image-- feel free to do so or to modify this one to suit your wishes. | Apr 02 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | > It's going to take a couple days more of research to do this, at least. But it will make the article more complete. | Apr 02 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Apr 02 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | Very nice. | Apr 02 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I like it. | Apr 02 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I guess the nukes are what that so-called Arctic Vault is for. | Apr 02 08:17 |
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| schestowitz | Re: GNU xxxxxxx joining the LOT network | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > LOT was promoted by Microsoft proponents since the start (about 10 years | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > ago) and it is even worse than OIN. Can you ask them for the contract | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > they want you to sign for tehcrights to analyse and maybe publish? | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > We wrote a lot about LOT over the years, inc. this last year: | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2019/03/31/lot-network-microsoft-pr/ | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > First thing. I am under surveillance 24/7 by the defendants in the | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > xxxxxxx matter. They read all my emails and I'm certain even GPG keys | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > would be hacked. Some of them (I refer to them as the "cylons") are | Apr 02 13:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft ‘Bought’ the LOT Network Like it Did the ‘Linux’ Foundation and It’s Now, as a Result, Yet Another Microsoft PR Front | Techrights | Apr 02 13:58 | |
| schestowitz | > professors at MIT, some are also connected with UK authorities. They | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | > have all the tools. | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | When I type mails I tend to assume they might be seen publicly. Might. | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Someday. | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Not only does this reduce the chance of a fluke (my tone and content | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | chosen accordingly), it also protects us in case someone out there | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | chooses to 'leak' mail. | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | Things happened in the past and history is a teacher. Privacy is best | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | off left to face-to-face conversations, more so if no recording devices | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | are around (nowadays these come in many forms). | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | I could go into pertinent details, specifics and examples, but that's | Apr 02 13:58 |
| schestowitz | not the import ant subject here. | Apr 02 13:58 |
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