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| schestowitz[TR2] | Krishna was on Norges podcast a while ago and mentioned that Red Hat would be (not his words) brought to heel with the rest of IBM. IMO, it is a version of the Broadcom/VMware playbook, boil-the-frog style. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Redhat underpins many low-visibility, very important Linux projects, and most have no idea they are doing it. For example, look at kernel committers: | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://insights.linuxfoundation.org/project/korg/contributo... | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | weighted by market cap, the disparity is even more severe imo. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | There is more visible projects (eg Ansible) that are great, but with very lackluster monetization and little impetus for IBM to GAF. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | These guys are pursuing the wrong strategy, they should be using super popular, high-mindshare projects to drive new wave of tailored business solutions leveraging existing consulting teams they already have (IBM revenue to hugely reliant on PS, 33%). Basically the largest "forward deployed eng" transition ever, backed by existing very strong open-source software and tailored (with Watson, dear god) as the "AI powered" engine to ap | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | pease the shareholder gods. You would run over so many startups with poor penetration at the F2000 level. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | bonzini 12 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Krishna's words on the podcast you cite were: "Red Hat has not been integrated... yet. [...] Engineering in Red Hat, I actually believe given the open-source nature of Red Hat, is going to have to be its own function. So, engineering I will likely not integrate because working at their scale of open source, maybe that is one where IBM learns from them, and things that are open source should belong much more in the Red Hat methodolo | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | gy than ours". | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Operations (HR, finance, legal, IT) has already been integrated into IBM and that's what the post is talking about. Not engineering. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | kjs3 10 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | When we were purchased by IBM (admittedly it's been a while), our separate HR, finance, IT and legal groups were gone before we knew it. Engineering got integrated over the first year (when I left), but with a pretty light touch, and AFAIK took into the second year to complete. Apparently things got increasingly more "IBM-ified" over the years, but a suprising number of the core folks have stayed, so it can't be all misery. Maybe R | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | H won't be completely crushed. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Hasz 12 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Full video: | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxqrSXiRja4, 6:37 starts discussion about integration, so you can judge exactly what he says. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "The only one we have not fully fully integrated yet, and I will emphasize the "yet" is RedHat". | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "on the go to market side, I really believe in full integration". | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | you already mentioned the engineering teams, and I do think your framing is mostly right. However, I think it unrealistic to say I am going to fully integrate back-office, fully integrate GTM, and somehow engineering is totally untouched. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | bonzini 11 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They are not fully integrating go-to-market. In the podcast Krishna says that the size and organization of Red Hat's GTM was larger than every other acquisition, and they were looking at partial integration only. Since then they actually have moved the sales teams for smaller markets to IBM. Red Hat kept the 20 or so largest markets and the verticals. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Right now operations is employed by IBM but still mostly working as they did at Red Hat. We'll see how that changes over the next couple years, as that would be the first look at Red Hat integrating into IBM. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | whimblepop 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | One thing I hope IBM understands here is that healthy F/OSS projects aren't really the kind of thing you can buy and proprietarize even by "forking"/re-licensing your own code. Ages ago, Oracle learned this when they bought Sun, particularly with the birth of The Document Foundation and LibreOffice. More recently, Hashicorp is facing the same phenomenon with the departure of the chief maintainer of Terraform to work on OpenTofu at | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Spacelift. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Many F/OSS maintainers care pretty deeply about things like software freedom, taking good care of our digital commons, and leaving their mark on the world in a public way. I imagine that's especially true at Red Hat. You can buy the company, you can change the relationship to the community of "outside" contributors, and you can even release new versions of the software under a proprietary license. You can create upheaval for a lot | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | of people, including the users. But you will often not only fail to walk away with key maintainers on your team, but watch them go on to form your competition on a new fork. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I don't personally know anyone who works at Red Hat, but even from the interactions I've seen recently in issue trackers and PRs to projects maintained in part by Red Hat engineers, I'm inclined to have a bit of faith. The upstream-first culture there still seems pretty strong and pretty quality-oriented to me. I don't think you can reliably keep engineers like that and turn them into drones who don't care about the craft and their | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | impact on users and developers. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | sippingabonedry 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > For example, look at kernel committers | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Microsoft 12 places higher than Canonical. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Going back in time 25 years and telling someone that would have been met with Doc Brown's "who's Vice President, Jerry Lewis?" | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | BobbyTables2 4 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yeah - between that, WSL itself, and VS Code being free and actually pretty good would have been hard to imagine. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Of course, we’re in the timeline where Biff won twice. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | saghm 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > For example, look at kernel committers: | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > weighted by market cap, the disparity is even more severe imo | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What does "weighting commits by market cap" mean? Counting commits from people who work for companies with larger market cap more? Why would that be a useful metric? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | elikoga 10 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I think the interpretation is that red hat devs are over-represented in terms of ratios compared to market cap weighting of all companies contributing to linux or similiar | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Hasz 10 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | basically. Comparing a company with google resources (and needs) is not really the same as RH resources (and needs). Basically, what percentage of rev/resources/profit/engineering headcount are you spending on linux? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | saghm 10 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I don't feel like this answers the last part of my question: why would that be a useful metric? If the claim is that I should be concerned with the future of kernel development because of the future of Redhat, why should dollar amounts matter rather than directly inferring from proportion of the development they do independent of dollars? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | xylophile 53 minutes ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Because percentage of investment indicates how central Linux is to their business. If Linux disappeared overnight, Google would find another way to sell ads, but RedHat would disappear. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It's a reasonable proxy for things like long-term commitment and commits across the stack (e.g. audio and video, not just network and disk). | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | zozbot234 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Redhat underpins many low-visibility, very important Linux projects, and most have no idea they are doing it | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Not sure why that would have to be an issue, IBM have their own history of significant contributions to the Linux and FLOSS communities. They're not pre-acquisition RedHat but they're not far behind either. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | htrp 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > tailored with Watson | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I think you mean built with Bob | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | topspin 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | IBM won't entertain your recommended strategy. IBM wants deep-pocketed institutional money: the sort of broad-based popularity you hope for has no value at IBM. Governments, banks and monster health care operations are the only customers IBM really cares about for their computing products. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I know IBM has been employing a large number of people to work on Linux. I'm not as concerned about the eventual wind-down of that as I might otherwise be: Linux is the global lifeblood of enterprise computing, and there are a lot of other existing and potential sources of wealth in this world to employ Linux developers. A dispersion of this talent, with the inevitable shift in focus to things that are not strictly IBM's prerogativ | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | es, might have a real benefit for Linux. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Past that, software development has suddenly become cheaper in any case: Linux is in the optimal position to benefit greatly from the good parts of that, largely due a legacy of good leadership, so perhaps employed developer headcount doesn't have the importance it has always had. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | In any case, I have every faith that Linux's future is not tightly coupled to the fate of whatever Red Hat withers into: there is too much at stake for too many well-resourced entities to permit Linux to suffer at the hands of IBM. If you need evidence for this, consider the outcome of the IBM's attempt to tighten their grip on the RHEL distribution, and the stampede to rapidly established alternatives this induced. If more of that | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | is in Linux's future, so be it. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Hasz 10 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The interview I linked higher in this thread specifically calls out targeting non F2000 type customers with point solutions and not taking their traditional sales motion everywhere. I think this will be quite difficult for them to do, but will see. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I am not too worried about Linux specifically. RH is a large committer, but a lot of those commits are down to a handful to very talented individuals. One of the other BigCos will sweep them up if RH culture falls apart, imo likely Qualcomm (see their large open source push recently), maybe Linaro (although I dont know much about them). | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I think this approach of integration is the mistake in IBM's strategy -- they are squeezing some very slippery customer hard, and IMO this was Broadcom's mistake. The integration must go very deep, be multi-threaded, beyond a single app, OS, whatever, and it has to be a slow noose, not a hard jerk. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If I am IBM, I continue to invest in core, open source, deploy my army of PS people to build custom business solutions around that core open-source (but tailored to their specific issue), use "AI" and very strong core product engineering to reduce risk/time-to-effect, and keep pushing their entire ecosystem (rhel, hashicorp, confluence, whatever else) to customers. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Integrate deeply, then put those annual increases at 9% and build a very healthy, strong moat on a premium brand, experience and level of trust. Better to not give anyone a critical event to justify walking away from you. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | cogman10 10 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > IBM wants deep-pocketed institutional money | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Well that's the funny thing, the deep pocketed institutional money is by and large using common and popular open source projects (increasingly so). | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | IBM is hoping for the old mainframe days to come back, but those are long gone. The tech IBM has which companies want to use by and large comes out of redhat today. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm reminded of IBM's opposition of C++'s removal of trigrams [1] all because it makes their character encoding system, EBCDIC, incompatible with C++. That's the sort of lock in that IBM is hoping for and it's lock in that no (sane) business tech leader would subscribe to. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | [1] https://isocpp.org/files/papers/N4210.pdf | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | topspin 7 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yes, I don't argue that IBM's ways are advisable. The revenue of the top ten big tech companies are all 2-10x greater than IBM, which is ~21 on that list. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | kjs3 9 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | We'll see how that works in a world where someone/something with enough cash/tokens can say "hey there little AI buddy...why don't you code me up something that works exactly like Linux without all those pesky licensing things while I grab a beer". Personally, I think that's going to be kinda inevitable in the corporate world since I could say thing like "...oh, and add these 5 things Linux doesn't do, and don't reimpliment anythin | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | g that isn't in this widget we want to sell. And write it in rust, because I heard that's cool." and instantly get a slimmed down, bespoke chunk of software that I/the corp/evil people can (so far?) claim ownership of. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Should be an interesting decade coming up. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | smackeyacky 7 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If they can vibe code that then so can anybody, it makes it a valueless exercise. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | kjs3 5 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If they can vibe code that then so can anybody | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yes...that is exactly the point I'm making. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | GP is saying (paraphrased) "I'm not worried about Linux because even if IBM (or Qualcomm, or ...) decides to close down their Linux efforts, the Linux devs will go someplace else and still contribute", which is true as far as it goes. My contention is it might not matter, because the big player can just as easily pay far fewer people to vibecode their own Linux workalike and take back control by displacing OG Linux in their tech ec | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | osystem. When I can leverage all the previous work done to create Linux (aka The Hard Part), leave the licensing behind (not tested in court yet) and have my very own OS that I can vibecode/iterate any way I want independent of the Linux dev community, why would $BIGCOMPANY not consider doing that? How would it be it 'valueless' to one of these players (most of whom chafe at being in bed with the OSS community anyway)? On the contr | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ary, what value would the Linux devs still have? Why would I even consider taking any contributions not from my own little AI playpen, since I'd be able to trivially say "hey AI...those crusty old Linux devs look like they got themselves a good idea...why don't you add that to our own private OS in the next spin. Think of a nifty marketing spin to advertise it and come up with some commercials to promote it. In the style of Micheal | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Bay this time". | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | jasomill 4 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Mantaining a private vibecoded Linux clone sounds like a source of expenses and headaches, not value. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What’s the point? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | pferde 9 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ...and have it fail spectacularly when deployed in an environment that requires reliability performance and high availability. Yes, I honestly can't wait to see those horror comedies unfold, but hopefully far away from me. :) | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | stackghost 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > they should be using super popular, high-mindshare projects to drive new wave of tailored business solutions | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Could you expand a bit more on what you’re describing here? Interested to hear more. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | toast0 12 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Offer paid support for $(whatever redhat project), do all the support stuff, but also cross-sell IBM business solutions. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | stackghost 12 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yes indeed, that's pretty much what parent poster wrote. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This part: | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | >$(whatever redhat project) | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | is what I would like parent poster to expand upon, though. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | They have more bargaining power now. Lots of people are scrambling to get off vmware after they raised their prices astronomically for seemingly no reason (other than they could, and a lot of groups are leaving VMs for containers). Openshift Virtualization is there with open arms to take those who haven't or won't migrate off of VMs. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Redhat can now charge a lot more and have worse service because some of their main competition now enables it. Whatever replaces kubernetes is slowly being formed and decided on, but there's easy pickings for custom solutions and consultants for now. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Untrustworthy blog reposts Twitter message from some person? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Employees are talking about it at cons and around town. Both Hashi and RH are being slowly shuttered. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | quietsegfault 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Untrustworthy blog? This is literally IBM's modus operandi. Look at what they did to Confluent and Hashi. Confluent is seemingly decimated. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | bonzini 11 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Well, techrights is not exactly reliable. I'd put it on the same level as the Daily Mail. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | quietsegfault 10 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I don't know techrights, and reading about them it does seem as if they have a very strong pro-FOSS, adversarial (to put it nicely) bent. So thank you for educating me there! | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Reading the post closer, and looking at their other posts, I don't think this is a blog I'd personally put a lot of trust in as a valuable resource. Maybe fun to read, but yeah. Not super trustable. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > "Today the "badge" says IBM," | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Sure, people are getting moved around. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > But the role changed, there's lots of slop ("hey hi") dross or filler | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm not sure what "hey hi" means, or filler. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > and everybody at IBM knows what PIPs and RA come next | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I've been through multiple "silent" and "loud" IBM layoffs. This is 100% true. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > It's not hard to see that the vast majority of redhat.com blog posts sell slop, not Linux. It helps inflate the share price without accomplishing anything of substance. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I don't really think this is true. I feel like as long as I've read Red Hat's blog posts (less frequently now) they've been high quality. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > It's "fake work", just like slop. It cheats the shareholders, but for how much longer? | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Based on the last statement, this too seems like it's at best an exaggeration. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Red Hat's "way" or "culture" or "open source org" is going away, step by step (one step at a time), and some people altogether quit today (or yesterday), not only in Red Hat but also Nordcloud. Some receive money to leave 'voluntarily'. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This is 100% true. When I joined, people told me I was joining a different Red Hat, and the company was vastly different when I left over a decade later. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > The quantum (vaporware) teams are going "the way of the Kyndryl" via Anderon. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm not following quantum stuff closely, so I can't judge this, but based on the crappy performance of the Kyndryl stock I got from the spinoff, I sure hope that .. quantum is getting spun off? I don't know, this seems a little wackadoo. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > IBM is imploding 'creatively'. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Gibberish. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | After reading it line by line closely and looking at my reaction .. yeah this is a rag of a blog. :D thanks again for knocking some sense into me! | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | qlte 9 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I had to re-read the (very short) linked blog post several times thinking I skipped over an actual nugget of information that would connect it to the title. I didn't find it but noticed the weird uncanny valley writing style that became less clear the closer I tried to read. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It doesn't even link out to the Linkedin post from the screenshot as far as I can tell. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Apocryphon 9 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You're thinking of The Register. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | shadow28 7 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Confluent is seemingly decimated | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Hm, care to elaborate? It looks like they've retained most of the engineering team and day-to-day priorities for Confluent / Kafka probably haven't changed much. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | LtWorf 5 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Hashicorp didn't really have a moat IMHO. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | superkuh 10 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I used to think techrights was biased but told the truth about the biased slice of things it did cover. Then the Freenode hostile take-over happened and I was right in the middle of it and techrights lied repeatedly about it. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Techrights is not a news source. It's propaganda and full of lies. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | INTPenis 11 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm also scared of RH pandering to share holders. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But RH disappearing as a brand is far fetched imho, just look at the recent output of their Youtube channel. They're leaning heavily into the Red Hat branding, not IBM. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'm more worried about the brain drain and drop in morale of the veteran employees. Something posts like this one probably contribute to. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | quietsegfault 11 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | RH pandered to shareholders for the entire decade I worked there. It will not disappear as a brand, that is far too valuable for IBM to buy credibility over their bullshit shovelware. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I left shortly after the IBM acquisition was announced, and I'm so happy I did. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The brain drain happened shortly after the announcement. To me it seems like all the driven, ultra-sharp people started leaving in 2019 and in force in 2020 and early 2021. The people I've interacted with Red Hat since 2020 were not anywhere near as sharp as the folks I worked with prior. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | EDIT: I was probably too strong on my statement that "all the driven, ultra sharp people". I know that I have a lot of ultra sharp, smart, engaged friends still there. What I meant to say was that I started to see the drain late 2019. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | christophilus 10 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I hope not. I love Fedora, and it's kind of heavily reliant on Red Hat being a good citizen (as are many other distros). Red Hat is still the (benevolent?) king of the Linux world. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | whalesalad 9 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I've been a diehard Debian user for most of my life. Swag. T-shirts. Case badges. Virtually every cloud server, VPS or dedicated box in my homelab is Debian or Debian-based (proxmox). My first install was in the Etch days. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | But recently I installed Fedora on my Framework 13 Pro and I really like it a lot. everything 'just works'. Then I installed it on a Chuwi netbook, and again to my surprise everything 'just works'. I am starting to dig dnf over apt, too. I am running Rocky as my domain controller at home (free ipa). Suffice to say I am kinda leanin into the redhat/rpm/fedora ecosysem and will be rebuilding my workstation (Deb 12) on Fedora instead | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | of going to Debian 13. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I still love Debian .. but as a developer the tooling is so much more modern on Fedora stack. COPR is cool too. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | goolz 9 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I love Debian for servers still but man Bazzite (atomic Fedora) has been a dream these past years for my gaming PC and laptop. Astoundingly it “just works” in every regard and is rock solid. With the advent of LLMs automating away all the minutiae of caring for a desktop environment I feel like I have died and gone to heaven. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | whalesalad 8 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Real. With Claude/Codex any trivial issue you have on Linux is solved in like 2 minutes flat. I run CachyOS on my gaming rig (12700k, 7900xtx) and it has worked flawlessly (Arc Raiders, Titanfall, Palworld, Robocop, Cyberpunk) but I will probably play with bazzite some day just to dogfood it. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | goolz 3 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Yeah! And I honestly feel like I am learning a ton more as I go. I love looking at the traces and it removes that burden of toiling for hours with little gain. I am glad to have known the before-time, but the future is nigh. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | LtWorf 5 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You could just use debian testing? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | whalesalad 25 minutes ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I’m afraid | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | I spent a few years at Red Hat. Great company back in those days. I wonder how mucb IBM has changed it but some of my former colleagues are still there, years later, so it can’t be too bad! | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It does remain one of my regrets that I cashed out my vested stock options much too soon. If I’d held on to them until the IBM buyout I would have done very well for myself! | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | I really don’t understand why they positioned Openshift so far from the open source K8s project. It’s even more opinionated than AKS/EKS, and this says a lot. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The only reason I see is that they wanted more vendor lock-in, but that rarely pays in the long run. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | nunez 3 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Red Hat wants to position OpenShift as a complete, batteries-included application platform. To do that, they had to make Kubernetes a lot more accessible to engineers who were scared of/uninterested in touching that stuff (back when Kubernetes was more novel). At its core, though, it's pretty much Kubernetes with a LOT of add-ons and (appreciated) security hardening. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Red Hat also does contribute a fair amount back to Kubernetes and CNCF: the Operator pattern, Istio, Ceph, etc. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | (I work at Red Hat.) | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | danudey 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Their goal is to create a system that's easy to run and manage even if you don't really know much about k8s - which I guess is a common thing, since k8s is a nightmare to manage directly until you learn everything about everything. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | More importantly, they want to build an ecosystem around their ecosystem around k8s. They want people publishing their software to work on OpenShift (e.g. in the operator catalog), they have certification processes for software compatibility (e.g. CNI certification), and now that they've come as far as they have they're going after VMWare's lunch, madly scooping up every customer they can get their hands on to try to offer them a u | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ser-friendly kubevirt implementation to replace VMWare (and NSX). | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If OpenShift was close to k8s then there wouldn't be enough differentiation between the two to make it worth the money so they're building out everything they think that execs and overworked infra teams will be willing to pay for to make k8s migration a workable option (rather than an internal migration project that stagnates and drags on for ten years). | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | OCP is just RHEL but for Kubernetes, and RHEL has done pretty well over the years all in all. RHEL is "just Linux", but it's "just Linux" with a bunch of RHEL-specific stuff in it and on top of it, and RHEL-specific policies around it, such that you can buy something from a software or hardware vendor that works with and is tested on RHEL and you know it'll work with your systems. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The goal is the same; company sells this software/solution, it runs on OpenShift v4.xx and up; you need RH's mesh and virt operators installed and configured, and then you can install our operator for our software and you're done. Now your whatever, database or CMS or whatever it is, just works. You don't have to customize the charts or define your own ingress gateway, it's all handled already if your system is set up properly. The | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | n you get the meta-control panel that lets you see and manage all of your clusters and etc., so you can get a higher-level view, etc. etc. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They want vendor lock-in to an extent, but they've seen that what customers want isn't "Linux", it's a Linux distribution that gives them enterprise reliability (read: never getting new versions of stuff, only security patches) and compatibility guarantees from vendors. They're just trying to do the same thing with kubernetes. Will it work? Seems like it's going okay so far, I guess we'll see. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | 6thbit 8 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I don't get it, why is one person quitting/layed off implying anything about redhat? | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Why is a screenshot of a tweet and a highly speculative unfounded headline in the frontpage? What am I missing? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | plorkyeran 14 minutes ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | He didn't quit/get fired/etc. His badge switched from saying Red Hat to saying IBM as part of an internal step towards integrating RH into IBM. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | brightball 12 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Just wait for Watson to be the next AI Leapfrog | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | hbn 11 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | That reminds me that the elevators at my work claim they're "Powered by IBM Watson" and I've always been curious what that could possibly mean. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The building was constructed in 2015 I believe, if that's some context. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | katzenq 7 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Probably related to this (2016)? https://www.altoros.com/blog/kone-monitors-1-1m-elevators-an... | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Sensor telemetry with a pretty dashboard | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | mmh0000 6 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I don't know what Watson-powered elevators do, but your comment reminds me of this: | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://play.elevatorsaga.com/ | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Which, once you start playing, can be very difficult to detox from. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | chasil 11 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I wonder if the forces behind OpenELA are able to shoulder a heavier burden. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The weakest link at this point would be Oracle. They've bet their future on AI, and it's crushing them. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://openela.org/ | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | bonzini 11 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Why would they have to shoulder a heavier burden? Anyhow no, if Red Hats ceased to exist, OpenELA would disappear. They are not doing any upstream engineering work. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | chasil 8 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | SUSE is an ELA member, and maintains Liberty Linux. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They certainly have the operational capability to maintain the quality standards of Red Hat. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | asawfofor 4 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | So instead of two different badge making machines, now there’s 1? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | wormius 11 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | My biggest fear (doubt it'd happen, but...) would be seeing this headline "Oracle purchases Red Hat from IBM." | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | (I have no idea why they'd do that, but it's a terrifying prospect; worse than letting it go to pasture, imo) | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | danudey 5 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Don't worry, Oracle is well on its way to junk bond status and when it gets there it won't be able to afford the interest on borrowing enough to let it do anything interesting or terrible. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | 23ahGa17 13 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | According to the tweet screenshot, IBM fires AI people! Hmm ... | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | nailer 12 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | First they ignore you, | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Then they laugh at you, | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Then they fight you, | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Then you win | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Then local datacenters move to the cloud | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Then you don’t keep up with Amazon | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Then you exit to IBM | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Then you get used to shovel IBM garbage onto customers | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Then you become an irrelevant footnote like vmware and Sun. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Early 2000s red hat was wild and I was glad to be there. I’m still the ‘mikem’ in /etc/sudoers in RHEL and Amazon Linu. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | nialse 11 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Context for early 2000s RH challenged individuals: It is a homage to the borrowed slogan RH used to have on posters and office walls. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | https://avi.alkalay.net/2007/06/you-win.html | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | antonvs 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Red Hat determined this path in 2001, when it started pivoting to enterprise customers only. Everything after that was just the usual progression for a minor enterprise player. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | nailer 9 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You might be right. Ubuntu and Shuttleworth certainly captured the void left for a polished Linux distro after the pivot. I think there was value to something being used personally and at work. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | pelcg 9 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Why though? Isn’t RHEL fully supported and used heavily in production? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | mmh0000 6 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | As a Senior Engineering Manager, I can tell you that, per my directive, we've actively standardized on Rocky Linux. We're moving away from everything else, including RHEL. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I was a long-time RHCX (Red Hat Certified Examiner). From around 2005 to 2015. When IBM bought Red Hat, I saw the writing on the wall, but I was optimistic it might be a Good Thing™. It wasn't a good thing. Red Hat has been pretty stagnant, as the article says. RH is 90% AI slop today. They'll live on as a brand for a long time, but from a technical perspective, they don't have much to offer. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | In the early 2000s, I recommended paying for RH because their technical support was amazing. Now, it's mostly 3rd-party contractors who know less than what you can find with a Google search. Unless you are extremely lucky, you never get to talk to actual RH engineers anymore. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I really like the Red Hat ecosystem and system design. However, I feel like they've petered out and won't recover from where they're headed. (I say, as I type this on my personal laptop running Fedora). | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | TL;DR: RH went from a super-nerd company to coasting on its former success. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | jmclnx 12 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | No surprise with this, people who has been following IBM over the years knew this day would come. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | >Red Hat's "way" or "culture" or "open source org" is going away, step by step | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I went through this and it started 5 years after purchase by IBM and it took another 3 or 4 years before everything was completely gone. FWIW, I have sense left IBM. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | quietsegfault 11 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It took IBM ~0 days to layoff 30% of Confluent upon deal close despite continual reinforcement that any RIFs would be coming months later. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | mococa 9 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They was acquired by IBM... I don't need to say more. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | MadrasTh0rn 12 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | We all knew red hat was going to be consumed right? | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Dramatizing the inevitable does what? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | bonzini 12 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | For what it's worth: | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | * Engineering, marketing, and most of sales are still Red Hat (different employer, different benefits etc.) | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | * IT and some smaller sales teams are moving to IBM | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | * Over the years some teams were exchanged between the companies, for example AI went from IBM to Red Hat and middleware went the other way round. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You may say this is simply boiling the frog, but Red Hat is still employing thousands of people. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | hadi77ir 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Now the IBM has the majority on FreeDesktop, like they own it. They can "extinguish" everything they ever want to. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | pelasaco 11 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | well SUSE, didn't need an IBM for that... | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | roncesvalles 10 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | IBM's stock price being over $150 is the most clear indicator that we're in a stock market bubble that's bound to pop. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | icedchai 8 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | On the other hand, imagine going back in time to 1985 and telling people that one day AAPL would have over 10x the profit and 20x the market cap of IBM. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | smm11 8 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Are you listening, Canonical? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | 0xbadcafebee 9 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | At one point I respected Red Hat a lot, they did a lot for Linux initially. But they also sponsored the people who have come to destroy it as of late. Can't say I'll miss them. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | toomuchtodo 13 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Great opportunity to migrate to NixOS for those needing to decision a migration path. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | ddellacosta 12 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I love NixOS and use it on my work and home machines, but I balk at seriously suggesting anyone pick that as their first choice for a stable Linux distro to move to. It's filled with sharp edges, and more to the point, the project leadership and governance seems mired in drama constantly. Not a system I would feel comfortable suggesting any org should adopt without a lot of consideration, especially if stability and long-term plann | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | ing are important. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | toomuchtodo 12 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | If it’s good enough for the Dutch and French governments to be adopting, it’s good enough for some, but not yet all, corporate orgs (I argue). Sharp edges will get ground down over time. Migration decisions have inertia that is measured in half decades. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | ufmace 49 minutes ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What's the ratio of press releases announcing their intention to switch to actual computers running NixOS being used by low-level bureaucrats reliably for their day-to-day work? | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Actually, we better invert that ratio, dividing by zero doesn't work very well no matter what OS you're using. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | mrbn100ful 11 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | The French government did not adopt it, it's a 250 users POC. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | cpburns2009 5 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | How many German governments have announced they're mirgrating to Linux over the years only for them to reverse course? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | ltbarcly3 11 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Governments always make such good, long term, well thought through technology decisions. For sure their decisions are great ones to adopt. /sarcasm | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | tosti 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It's not just a distro. RedHat used to host quite a bit of free software projects. The mailing lists that used to be now just bounce. Sourceware has been abandoned for GitLab. But I'm not sure if everything else has succesfully migrated away. It would've meant something really good if IBM would just continue to provide services for free software, but I'm not seeing them do that so I guess that means pretty much the exact opposite. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | notnullorvoid 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'll stick with Fedora and RHEL. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | From what I can tell NixOS still has no support for AppArmor or SELinux. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | evanjrowley 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Semi-related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49841563 | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | toomuchtodo 13 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | France as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49842480 | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | amelius 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I'll wait until AI has translated all the nix scripts to a more user friendly language, thank you. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | stargrazer 6 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Well, actually, some recent articles are indicating that AI is coming up with its own idiom of communicating. Something incomprehensible to humans. So, which will it be, AI sharing with humans, or AI hogging the ball and keeping everything private between agents? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | antonvs 10 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | You can just use AI to configure Nix. The “user friendly language” is English (or whatever natural language you want to use.) | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | hollerith 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Last time I evaluated NixOS (Mar 2021) the project didn't care a whit about desktop security. Has that changed? | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Fedora at least tries relatively consistently—and has been for decades. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | chronogram 13 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What exactly do you mean by desktop security? Security from websites, installable software, physical access? | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | j1elo 13 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | > Security from websites, installable software, physical access? | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | All those would be important, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. We could start from the Vulnerability Of The Year: supply chain attacks. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | hollerith 13 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Being able to visit a web page, open a PDF or download and inspect a git repo without the web page, PDF or git repo's being able to completely pwn the entire machine including the bootloader and the firmware for all the hardware subsystems. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Desktop Linux is very bad at that compared to ChromeOS and MacOS, but some distros are much better than others. For a few decades now, Fedora has been one of the better ones. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | noosphr 8 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Redhad has done more damage to open source Linux than Microsoft did. Dying is the best thing it can do. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | commandersaki 8 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I hope so, never liked Red Hat, even before IBM acquisition. It was essentially Microsoft-lite. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | Danox 9 hours ago | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | IBM, are they still in business? I thought they were comatose like Xerox, and Kodak. :) | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | wmeredith 9 hours ago | parent | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | They had $67 billion in revenue last year, which was up 7% from the previous year. Not exactly out of business. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | xxpor 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [–] | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Essentially every single electronic financial transaction that you do (outside of crypto exchanges) involves an IBM mainframe. A huge number of businesses run on top of IBM I (like Costco). | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | It's plenty alive, just not as much inside of Silicon Valley itself. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | I think the last time I ran anything Redhat based was Fedora in 2014 or so? I remember facing some issues with my graphics driver rendering Gnome and so I ditched it and went to Arch. | Oct 02 06:03 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | I think every server I have ever used at work has been Ubuntu or Debian based. Every time I go to these cons I am always flabbergasted that Redhat has such a presence when even a massive dork like me never uses it. | Oct 02 06:03 |
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| schestowitz[TR2] | " well since you are clearly a je-k, you must be an expert at je-king off. | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 1 hour ago by Anonymous | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+4/-2) | Reply | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bz+1m3xwx83p | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -3 | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Get back to work. IBM isn't paying you to dilly dally. Je-k off on your own time. | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 2 hours ago by Anonymous | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+1/-4) | Reply | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bs+1m3xwx83p | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +3 | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | In the US, to be frank, there are plenty of operation people and managers that could be laid off. The other thing that IBM does is obviously to lay off old experienced people and hire kids out of college with no experience. | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Heads up! | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 3 hours ago by Anonymous | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | Reply | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bp+1m3xwx83p | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +5 | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Uh who is left? Anyone? Outside of India I mean? | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 4 hours ago by Anonymous | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bh+1m3xwx83p | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | -1 | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @b1 you from Albany? | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 4 hours ago by Anonymous | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 1 reaction (+0/-1) | Reply | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @bb+1m3xwx83p | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +4 | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | @OP: starting Monday, there is plan for a unexpected shock for the Indians. | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 6 hours ago by Anonymous | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @b3+1m3xwx83p | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +6 | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | What do you mean? The executive leadership failed to deliver and therefore the employees have to pay! | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | This is now business as usual at IBM. The upper execs lack all accountability and everyone else is disposable. | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | 6 hours ago by Anonymous | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Post ID: @b1+1m3xwx83p | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | +7 | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | Lots of goodbye posts on LinkedIn in the states too? What is going on? | Oct 02 21:52 |
| schestowitz[TR2] | "\ | Oct 02 21:52 |
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