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  • Amazing thought provoking article. So I assume tha...
    Amazing thought provoking article. So I assume that in the case of a 54(3) earlier filed situation, the loss of priority as described in this decision means that disclosure of the dosage without disclosure of supporting [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] data is not novelty destroying in an earlier filed patent monopoly case citable under 54(3). But what happens when a prior art journal article discloses the dosage, but gives no data? That
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  • Dear Rose, thank you. If I understand correctly, y...
    Dear Rose, thank you. If I understand correctly, your interpretation is that for a therapeutic invention to be "credible" evidence/ proof has to be provided, which - at least from my perspective - seems to be i [05:27] schestowitz[TR2] n line with G 2/21. I initially interpreted "credible" being a lower bar to meet compared to evidence/ proof, which - for therapeutic inventions/ effects - would not
    • [05:27] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Sufficiency at the priority date: A study protocol is not "the same" as a therapeutic effect invention (T0883/23) - The IPKat [05:28] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Patentee's own post-published data undermines the credibility of their broad cat antibody patent (T 0709/23) - The IPKat ● Nov 02 [08:25] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [08:35] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:39] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@4fqyq57tpudzs.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 02 [10:28] *FANTOM has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [10:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [10:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 02 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] "INTERNATIONALE GEWERKSCHAFT IM EUROPISCHEN PATENTAMT [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] STAFF UNION OF THE EUROPEAN PATENT OFFICE [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] UNION SYNDICALE DE L'OFFICE EUROPEEN DES BREVETS [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Ortssektion Den Haag Local section The Hague Section locale La Haye [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Staff Union of the European Patent Office (SUEPO) [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] De Bruyn Kopsstraat 15 hague@suepo.org [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 2288 EC Rijswijk (ZH) The Netherlands https://hague.suepo.org [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 31 October 2025 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] su25015hp [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Minutes SUEPO TH AGM 2025 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 9 October 2025, 17:00 20:00 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] De Bruyn Kopstraat 15, 2282 EC Rijswijk [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] AGM opens at 17:05 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Local Bureau Den Haag (LBDH) committee members present: [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] DD, FC, IB, LMK, PC, RMT [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] LBDH deputy members present: AB, IL [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Members present having the right to vote: 22 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Valid proxies: 4 proxies [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Moderator: IB [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Minutes: AB [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 1. Approval of the agenda: [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] No additional points proposed by the audience. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Decision: Agenda is unanimously adopted with no additional points. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 2. Approval of the minutes of the AGM 2024 (7 October 2024) [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Discussion and approval. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Decision: The minutes are approved with one abstention. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 3. Presentation of the Chair & Activity Report 2024 (IB) [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Questions from the audience on: [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Membership demographics and finances: outreach to pensioners for in- [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] creased pensioner membership. Colleagues are invited to inform SUEPO [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] and stay affiliated upon retirement; [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Criteria for supporting cases could evolve; [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] AGM supports remaining affiliated to USF; [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Recruitment actions ongoing; [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] All SUEPO members are invited to help increase the visibility of the Union, [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] and to contact the committee (hague@suepo.org) with ideas, initiatives and [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] offers of help [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 4. Presentation of the Financial Reports 2024 (LMK, RMT) [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Presentation by the Treasurer of the finances of 2024. The Financial Report [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] has been distributed to SUEPO members via email. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] The treasurer noted that social dialogue remains largely driven by legal dis- [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] putes, which continues to generate significant costs. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 2 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Questions from the audience concerned IT expenses: continuous IT costs to [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] be expected for maintenance, security and upgrades. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 5. Presentation of the Auditors Reports 2024 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] The Auditors Report has been distributed to SUEPO members via email. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Auditors gave a positive opinion on the finances for 2024. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Chair thanks the two auditors, Jakob Mauritz and Vincent Franche. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 6. Acceptance of the Accounts 2024 [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Decision: The accounts for 2024 are accepted unanimously. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 7. Proposed amendment to the election rules [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] RR, as a member of the electoral committee 2024 explained the reasons for [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] the proposed amendment, [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Decision: The amendment is accepted with one abstention with an additional [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] change in Article I.4 f) distribute a the notice of elections... [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 8. For information [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] The Committee does not recommend to change the statutes and the number [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] of full members. The audience endorses this recommendation. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] The 2026 membership fees are set as follows: indexation according to the [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] SAP results effective from January 2025 of all membership fees (as decided [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] during the AGM of November 2023), i.e. increase of 2.4%: [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] for active employees = 2,7% of monthly basic salary, first step of the mem- [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] bers grade in the 2025 salary scales, [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Pensioners fees: 59, [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] First year membership for free during the first 3 years of employment, [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Young Professionals get the same flat rate as pensioners. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] The AGM endorses the membership fees. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 9. Discharging of the Committee [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] The Committee was discharged. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Decision: The Committee is unanimously discharged. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 10. Election of the Auditors for the 2025 accounts [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Dirk Dobbelaere, Jakob Mauritz and Vincent Franche volunteer to become [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] auditors [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Other volunteers? No more volunteers. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Election: all volunteers elected [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] 11. Election of the Electoral Committee [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Volunteers: Paloma Sevillano, Roberto Righetti, Ansgar Wansing, Gerald [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Rutsch. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Election: elected unanimously: PS, RR, AW & GR. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] AGM closes at 18:10." [12:27] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-hague.suepo.org | Staff Union of the European Patent Office (EPO) - SUEPO The Hague [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] "Dear Members, [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] On Monday, November 3, at 8:00 a.m., you will receive an email from BigPulse with a secure link to vote in the SUEPO elections. Use this link to cast your vote electronically, as paper voting is no longer available. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Voting Period: [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Opens: Monday, November 3, 8:00 a.m. [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Closes: Thursday, November 6, 12:00 midday [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Seven Committee seats are up for election. If you dont receive the email by noon on Monday, check your spam folder or contact us at " [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] " [12:27] schestowitz[TR2] Enclosed are the minutes of the Annual General Meeting of SUEPO The Hague, held on 9 October 2025 at the SUEPO-TH headquarters, De Bruyn Kopsstraat 15, 2288 EC Rijswijk." [12:28] schestowitz[TR2] " Upcoming General Assembly: timeline, election rules and election committee" [12:28] schestowitz[TR2] "Dear colleagues, [12:28] schestowitz[TR2] New staff committee elections will take place in 2026, as the current mandate ends on 30 June 2026. [12:28] schestowitz[TR2] To prepare the elections, staff must organize a General Assembly by the end of 2025 to adopt the election rules and appoint an election committee." [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Staff Committee Elections 2026 [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] in The Hague [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Dear colleagues, [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] In 2026, new elections will be held for your staff representatives across all sites. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] The mandate of the current representatives ends on 30 June 2026, and the new [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] committee will take office on 1 July 2026. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] In order to organise these elections, staff needs to adopt the election rules, and [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] appoint an election committee who will be running the elections. This needs to [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] happen at the latest 6 months before the end of term of the current team, i.e. before [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] the end of 2025 (Art 35(5)(d) ServRegs). [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] The present mandate marked a turning point in the way staff representation is [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] constituted: following ILOAT judgment 4482, the EPO reversed some of the changes [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] brought to the ServRegs by Mr Battistelli, and returned to the former practice whereby [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] staff itself determines the way its representatives get elected and constitute [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] themselves. Early 2023, staff, gathered in a General Assembly, adopted a set of [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] election rules to this effect. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Although the election committee made some suggestions and recommendations in [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] their report, these were not towards the election rules as adopted in 2023. Having [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] reviewed these election rules, we propose to keep them unamended. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] However, staff is invited to provide reasoned proposals for amendments to these [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] rules, which the staff will then decide upon during an upcoming General Assembly [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] (GA). Any such proposal is welcome at dhstcom@epo.org, until Wednesday [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] 12 November, noon. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Also during the upcoming GA, an election committee of 5-9 staff members (who [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] cannot be candidates to the election) needs to be established. Any member of staff [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] wishing to participate in the organisation of these elections is welcome to step forward: [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] please announce your candidature per email at dhstcom@epo.org, until Wednesday [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] 19 November, noon. For information, in 2023, the electoral committee received [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] 20 days time budget. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Page 2 of 2 [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Timeline [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] - Wednesday 12 November, noon: [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Deadline for submission of reasoned proposals for amendments to the [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] election rules, via email to dhstcom@epo.org; [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] - Wednesday 19 November, noon [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Deadline for candidates for the election committee to step forward, via email to [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] dhstcom@epo.org (if there would be insufficient candidates, the LSCTH will [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] prolong this period); [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] - Friday 21 November [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Publication of the agenda of the GA with: [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] a list of candidates for the election committee; [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] any proposed amendments [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] (where appropriate, the LSCTH may formulate their opinion on such [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] proposed amendments); [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] a proposed final text (pending possible amendments) for the 2026 [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] election rules. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] - Thursday 4 December [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] General Assembly (online, specific meeting invitation will follow) [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] The elections of your staff representatives are an important marker, and we hope to [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] see a large participation through these elections as a sign of support for a strong [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] mandate of your representatives. [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Kind regards, [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] Your local staff committee The Hague [12:29] schestowitz[TR2] " [12:46] schestowitz[TR2]
  • Upgrade to Fedora 43 from Fedora 42 Workstation (GUI and CLI)

    Here’s are the quick steps on how you can upgrade to the Fedora 43 version. Fedora 43 is officially available for download and the upgrade channels are now available. This release brings the latest and greatest GNOME 49 desktop for workstation editions, refinements [12:46] schestowitz[TR2] to KDE Plasma desktop and more updates.

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    Best Linux Distros for Development
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    Ive whittled the list down to five different distributions. Ill confess that my go-to distribution is on this list, but I can assure you that I would still recommend it, even if I hadnt been using it for a decade.

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    Keep in mind that just about any Linux distribution can be turned into a development machine. Install the right toolchains, add your favorite language and IDE, mix in a container runtime engine and youre off and running.

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    • [15:12] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thenewstack.io | Best Linux Distros for Development - The New Stack [15:33] schestowitz[TR2]
  • This Week in GNOME: #223 Spooky Updates

    Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from October 24 to October 31.

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    I have merged PAM support to oo7-daemon making it a drop-in replacement for gnome-keyring-daemon. After building and installing both the daemon & PAM module using Meson, you have to enable the PAM module like explained in https://github.com/bilelmoussaoui/oo7/tree/main/pam#1-copy-the-pam-module to make auto-login works. A key difference [15:33] schestowitz[TR2] with gnome-keyring-daemon is that oo7-daemon uses the V1 (used by libsecret when the app is sandboxed) of the keyring file format instead of V0. The main difference between both is that v0 encrypts the whole keyring and v1 encrypts individual items.

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    • [15:33] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-thisweek.gnome.org | #223 Spooky Updates [15:33] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-oo7/pam at main bilelmoussaoui/oo7 GitHub [15:33] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-oo7/pam at main bilelmoussaoui/oo7 GitHub [15:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [15:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 02 [16:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [16:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [16:46] *fantom_ (~fantom@freenode-1tj.fvm.v1ickb.IP) has joined #techbytes [16:56] *fantom_ has quit (Connection closed) ● Nov 02 [18:29] schestowitz[TR2] https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/07/Rumours_of_IBM_Layoffs_Apparently_Confirmed_Yesterday_IBM_Canad.shtml [18:29] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Techrights Rumours of IBM Layoffs Apparently Confirmed Yesterday, IBM Canada Consulting Impacted (as Rumoured) [18:30] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k8kzxz6m [18:30] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k8kzxz6m ) [18:30] schestowitz[TR2] "No it was not us. Most hiring for decades required a college degree. You were hired for your potential and attitude and skills and track record and work ethic etc. You were not hired because you are non white, young, outside the US etc. Most new sales are RCG recent college grads. Come in band 6 while band 8 9 10s are PIP'd out. Most know nothing about IBM other than happy to have job. I have seen ALOT of comp sci, data scientists [18:30] schestowitz[TR2] etc come in and go to GSS global sales school for 6 weeks and be told they are the smartest people on the planet and be given a laptop and a quota and told to begin cold calling a list of 200 accounts. They leave IBM after 9-18 months. They get none of the great mentoring we got. Zero. Many were working at Ulta 3 months ago. Or Poli Sci majors. IBM now has 2-3 times as many employees in India as the US because IBM loves chasing of [18:30] schestowitz[TR2] fshore cheap labor thinking they can save their way to prosperity. IBM no longer has IT support. No longer has HR. What they do have are a bunch of horrific home grown chat bots built on watsonx that work as well as a flashlight with no batteries." ● Nov 02 [22:39] *psydroid3 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/)