●● IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, April 03, 2021 ●● ● Apr 03 [01:16] schestowitz Re: solving FSF, contacting RMS [01:16] schestowitz > Hi Roy, [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > Do you know how people can contact RMS now that @gnu.org emails are [01:16] schestowitz > being blocked? [01:16] schestowitz > [01:16] schestowitz > Regards, [01:16] schestowitz It's tricky without email, but I can relay messages to him, provided they're adequate. [01:16] schestowitz We need to maintain manners to keep the impression we're a lot more polite and respectful than the mob. Because we are. [01:16] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/30/hateful-anti-fsf-mob/ [01:16] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | The Anti-FSF Mob Has a Severe Anger Management and Hate Problem | Techrights [01:16] schestowitz I made a hashtag this week: #BullyDeBlanc [01:18] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20427305#6cd9379075db013901e500505681eeb8 [01:18] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It certainly looks as though #BullyDeBlanc and co. totally self-pwn3d with their hate letter, the deeply libellous petition. http://techrights.org/2021/04/01/fsf-was-right/ #gnu #rms #freesw [01:18] schestowitz "houldn't it have been credited in a caption, then? :-)" [01:18] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Still on Course to Making the Strong Point That FSF Was Right to Bring RMS Back | Techrights [01:19] schestowitz He corrected it, the corrected version was mentioned today in IRC [01:20] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20389870#bbad3c10722f013901e300505681eeb8 [01:20] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Antonio Terceiro: Migrating from Chef to #itamae http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149315 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #debian [01:20] schestowitz "I was so sad and disappointed to notice his name in a petition the other day" [01:20] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.tuxmachines.org | Antonio Terceiro: Migrating from Chef to itamae | Tux Machines [01:20] schestowitz groupthink and peer pressure? Misled? Some people changed their minds about signing, e.g. Ariande [01:22] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20348823#6d11d1206db6013901dd00505681eeb8 [01:22] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Also, #zdnet talks about RMS by only quoting (about him) employees of #ProprietarySoftware companies, usually #monopolies (talk about fake 'journalism' or lobbying for robber barons) [01:22] schestowitz "nod; what a surprise that top movers and shakers of todays open-source software, a campaign that was always about burying his ideals and promoting a corrupt version thereof, are not happy hes back, no? just in case anyone had any doubts on whether fsfs move was good for the free software movement" [01:23] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20340567#092302d06cb2013901d700505681eeb8 [01:23] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "RMS back on the board of directors of the FSF... awaiting his reelection as President" - #techrights IRC based on #libreplanet live stream. This is great news. [01:23] schestowitz " [01:23] schestowitz Alexandre Oliva [01:23] schestowitz [01:23] schestowitz I said the FSF was in good hands, didn't I? [01:23] schestowitz " [01:23] schestowitz Now even more so, seeing who left... [01:23] schestowitz "Weird news. What is going on?' [01:23] schestowitz "Hmmm, Ill try to keep an open mind." [01:24] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20312313#a3c40c5069e70139adbf64115bb33a84 [01:24] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Picture the most abusive app store." (Alexandre Oliva: The WWWorst App Store) http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/alexandre-oliva-on-webapps/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/18/alexandre-oliva-on-webapps/ [01:24] schestowitz " [01:24] schestowitz Liked it (although I didnt really learn anything new) ; a bit shocked at no seeing the word Linux anywhere in the text [01:24] schestowitz (I mean, Linux as in Debian, of course not M. Shutterworths Ubuntu, who replaces the standard app managers with Ubuntus gated one!) [01:24] schestowitz " [01:24] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Alexandre Oliva: The WWWorst App Store | Techrights [01:24] schestowitz https://news.slashdot.org/story/20/06/05/2148219/linux-mint-dumps-ubuntu-snap [01:24] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.slashdot.org | Linux Mint Dumps Ubuntu Snap - Slashdot [01:25] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20266300#515ecaf06582013901d100505681eeb8 [01:25] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The so-called 'speakers' that are actually MICROPHONES for #eavesdropping on you (police, state, corporations)... now wants your heartbeats too. Only dumb people would buy these. https://www.iottechtrends.com/smart-speakers-heart-monitoring/ [01:25] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.iottechtrends.com | Smart Speakers Could Add Heart Monitoring - IoT Tech Trends [01:25] schestowitz "the so-called smart devices are made for people dumb enough to regard them as smart" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20266300#515ecaf06582013901d100505681eeb8 ● Apr 03 [06:16] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:17] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [09:19] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [09:19] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:28] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [09:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [09:36] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:59] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [10:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [10:57] schestowitz >> Daniel Pocock wrote on 02/04/2021 11:20: [10:57] schestowitz >>> I updated the page with this [10:57] schestowitz >>> [10:57] schestowitz >>> Useful picture, puts Paul Tagliamonte in the Pentagon next the [10:57] schestowitz >>> Rebellion's co-founder [10:57] schestowitz >>> [10:57] schestowitz >>> https://media.defense.gov/2017/May/08/2001743535/-1/-1/1/AFD-170508-064-014.PDF [10:57] schestowitz >> [10:57] schestowitz >> I can see him clearly in page 9 grinning like a (useful) idiot. [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > Here are some comments sent on the gnu-misc-discuss, they've bounced [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > Now do you see why my blogs about the rape issues were so relevant? It [10:57] schestowitz > is not about the rape, it is about the abuse of power whether for [10:57] schestowitz > personal or official purposes, the involvement of multiple [10:57] schestowitz > conspirators/accomplices, the mechanisms used to maintain secrecy [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > -------- Forwarded Message -------- [10:57] schestowitz > Subject: Re: Pentagon linked to shaming attack on RMS [10:57] schestowitz > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 09:11:15 +0200 [10:57] schestowitz > From: Daniel Pocock [10:57] schestowitz > To: jcb62281@gmail.com [10:57] schestowitz > CC: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org, Jean Louis , Mike [10:57] schestowitz > Gerwitz , Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) [10:57] schestowitz > <936-846-2769@kylheku.com>, shulie , slbtty [10:57] schestowitz > , Akira Urushibata , [10:57] schestowitz > sysadmin@fsf.org, rms@gnu.org [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > [10:57] schestowitz > On 03/04/2021 04:17, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote: [10:57] schestowitz >> Daniel Pocock wrote: [10:58] schestowitz >>> Its all in the last picture [10:58] schestowitz >>> [10:58] schestowitz >>> Paul Tagliamonte, seconded the motion in Debian, with the co-founder of [10:58] schestowitz >>> Rebellion Defense and the top brass at the Pentagon. [10:58] schestowitz >>> [10:58] schestowitz >>> [10:58] schestowitz > https://debian.community/paul-tagliamonte-debian-usds-white-house-mob-ringleader/ [10:58] schestowitz >>> [10:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-debian.community | Paul Tagliamonte & Debian: White House, Pentagon, USDS and anti-RMS mob ringleader [10:58] schestowitz >>> [10:58] schestowitz >> In conclusion, while asking his employer if they are being paid to help [10:58] schestowitz >> instigate a mob against RMS seems to be an amusing example of "sauce for [10:58] schestowitz >> the gander", Tagliamonte's previous government employment and trip [10:58] schestowitz >> through the "revolving door" to the private sector does not stand out as [10:58] schestowitz >> reason to suspect that the government is somehow behind the attacks on [10:58] schestowitz >> RMS. The "revolving door" is simply too widespread to support a claim [10:58] schestowitz >> of that type of corruption. [10:58] schestowitz > [10:58] schestowitz > It is far more complicated. Misuse of office can occur whether a staff [10:58] schestowitz > member is political or not. [10:58] schestowitz > [10:58] schestowitz > With or without official orders, any employee of the White House may be [10:58] schestowitz > able to exert some influence in the community. They can use their [10:58] schestowitz > position to get extra credibility, for example, to get accepted as a [10:58] schestowitz > conference speaker. They can also use their position to threaten [10:58] schestowitz > people, the recent scandal[1] of somebody threatening a journalist, "I [10:58] schestowitz > will destroy you", comes to mind. Sounds a lot like the attacks on RMS. [10:58] schestowitz > Biden sacked that guy. [10:58] schestowitz > [10:58] schestowitz > Then there is the misuse of public resources. In Australia, an employee [10:58] schestowitz > of the defense minister was bringing female employees to the office and [10:58] schestowitz > raping[2] them on the sofa, everybody is pretending they didn't know. [10:58] schestowitz > [10:58] schestowitz > These people can profit from their personal friendships and they can [10:58] schestowitz > lose if those relationships are damaged. Look at the way Australia's [10:58] schestowitz > prime minister was caught spreading defamation about the rape victim's [10:58] schestowitz > boyfriend. A G20 country running their cabinet like debian-private [10:58] schestowitz > (leaked). [10:58] schestowitz > [10:58] schestowitz > At the US Capitol riot, they found[5] a PsyOps officer on her day off. [10:58] schestowitz > [10:59] schestowitz > Society trusts these people with training, surveillance technology, guns [10:59] schestowitz > and nuclear weapons. In return, it is expected that they demonstrate [10:59] schestowitz > the highest standards of integrity. [10:59] schestowitz > [10:59] schestowitz > Setting up a kangaroo court to shame another citizen on your own side [10:59] schestowitz > appears to be well outside the expected standards of integrity. It [10:59] schestowitz > appears to be a much more active role than that taken by the PsyOps [10:59] schestowitz > officer at the siege. [10:59] schestowitz > [10:59] schestowitz > Regards, [10:59] schestowitz > [10:59] schestowitz > Daniel [10:59] schestowitz > [10:59] schestowitz > 1. [10:59] schestowitz > https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/02/i-will-destroy-you-biden-aide-threatened-a-politico-reporter-pursuing-a-story-on-his-relationship [10:59] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.vanityfair.com | I Will Destroy You: Biden Aide Threatened a Politico Reporter Pursuing a Story on His Relationship | Vanity Fair [10:59] schestowitz > 2. [10:59] schestowitz > https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2021/03/24/scott-morrisons-office-staff-lawyer-up-because-they-do-not-trust-him-regarding-the-brittany-higgins-alleged-rape-cover-up/ [10:59] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-kangaroocourtofaustralia.com | Scott Morrisons office staff lawyer up because they do not trust him regarding the Brittany Higgins alleged rape cover-up Kangaroo Court of Australia [10:59] schestowitz > 3. [10:59] schestowitz > https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-25/brittany-higgins-formal-complaint-backgrounding-pm-office/100028234 [10:59] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.abc.net.au | Brittany Higgins makes formal complaint to Prime Minister's Office over alleged smears against partner - ABC News [10:59] schestowitz > 4. https://debian.community/debian-private-leaked/ [10:59] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-debian.community | debian-private archives leaked [10:59] schestowitz > 5. [10:59] schestowitz > https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/11/army-investigates-psyops-officer-officer-emily-rainey-capitol-riot [10:59] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theguardian.com | Army investigates psyops officer for role in Washington on day of Capitol riot | US Capitol breach | The Guardian [10:59] schestowitz > [10:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Apr 03 [11:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:05] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [11:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [13:15] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:15] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [13:33] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:34] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes [13:43] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:44] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [13:44] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [13:44] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [16:16] *Condor_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:38] *rianne_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:38] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [18:03] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [18:04] *schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [20:46] *rsheftel10001 (~rsheftel@pool-100-35-139-62.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techbytes [20:49] *rsheftel1000 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Apr 03 [21:48] schestowitz > US Federal employees have some pretty strict obligations [21:48] schestowitz > [21:48] schestowitz > Tagliamonte is a contractor since August 2019 so the RMS stuff may not stick [21:48] schestowitz > [21:48] schestowitz > In 2016 he was a White House employee, that is when he wrote the [21:48] schestowitz > Appelbaum email [21:48] schestowitz > [21:48] schestowitz > I notice that on the tuxmachines site it truncates part of the article name. [21:48] schestowitz > [21:48] schestowitz > As I'm publishing these documents as facts, not as my opinion, would you [21:48] schestowitz > consider removing my name from the article title so people can see both [21:49] schestowitz > Appelbaum and White House together in the title? [21:49] schestowitz > [21:49] schestowitz > https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/2635.101 [21:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.law.cornell.edu | 5 CFR 2635.101 - Basic obligation of public service. | CFR | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute [21:49] schestowitz Drupal places superficial limits on length of comment titles. Thus the truncation, if any. I try to put all the RMS-related stuff in one long node in Drupal to alleviate the s/n ratio problem. [21:50] schestowitz > To: Jean Louis , Jacob Bachmeyer [21:50] schestowitz > CC: gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) [21:50] schestowitz > <936-846-2769@kylheku.com>, shulie , slbtty [21:50] schestowitz > , Akira Urushibata [21:51] schestowitz > [21:51] schestowitz > [21:51] schestowitz > [21:51] schestowitz > On 03/04/2021 13:55, Jean Louis wrote: [21:51] schestowitz >> * Jacob Bachmeyer [2021-04-03 05:17]: [21:51] schestowitz >>> Daniel Pocock wrote: [21:51] schestowitz >>>> Its all in the last picture [21:51] schestowitz >>>> [21:51] schestowitz >>>> Paul Tagliamonte, seconded the motion in Debian, with the co-founder of [21:51] schestowitz >>>> Rebellion Defense and the top brass at the Pentagon. [21:51] schestowitz >>>> [21:51] schestowitz >>>> https://debian.community/paul-tagliamonte-debian-usds-white-house-mob-ringleader/ [21:51] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-debian.community | Paul Tagliamonte & Debian: White House, Pentagon, USDS and anti-RMS mob ringleader [21:51] schestowitz >>> I do not know where you are located, so perhaps you are unaware that that is [21:51] schestowitz >>> a fairly tenuous link in the USA -- the "military-industrial complex" that [21:51] schestowitz >>> President Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell speech has grown very [21:51] schestowitz >>> large and the "revolving door" between government and private industry has [21:51] schestowitz >>> been long-lamented and long-pilloried. [21:51] schestowitz >> After more careful review of the hyperlink, if that email is genuine, [21:51] schestowitz >> it is in my opinion against the mentioned law 5 CFR 2635.702 - Use [21:51] schestowitz >> of public office for private gain. [21:51] schestowitz >> [21:51] schestowitz > [21:51] schestowitz > I found an even stronger example, attached below. [21:51] schestowitz > [21:51] schestowitz > While he was in the White House, he sent a strongly worded email [21:51] schestowitz > encouraging people to lynch Jacob Appelbaum, another US citizen, like Dr [21:51] schestowitz > Stallman. It is copied below. [21:51] schestowitz > [21:51] schestowitz > Maybe this is why they have censored me from posting to the gnu.org, [21:51] schestowitz > fsf.org and libraplanet.org lists? [21:51] schestowitz > [21:51] schestowitz > [21:51] schestowitz >>> Tagliamonte, whose actions are legitimate to discuss because he has [21:51] schestowitz >>> publicly promoted a position on the issue, would have been hired in [21:51] schestowitz >>> 2015, based on the email you quote in that article. [21:51] schestowitz >> https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/2635.702 [21:51] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.law.cornell.edu | 5 CFR 2635.702 - Use of public office for private gain. | CFR | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute [21:51] schestowitz >> [21:51] schestowitz >> IMHO, when Tagliamonte during his employment mentioned his position in [21:51] schestowitz >> government, he is in violation of the above law. Thus his work at [21:51] schestowitz >> Debian IS INFLUENCED by person who worked in government, and it [21:52] schestowitz >> represents conflict of interest. [21:52] schestowitz > Does the White House have a reporting mechanism for this, should it go [21:52] schestowitz > to the FBI or somewhere else? [21:52] schestowitz > [21:52] schestowitz > [21:52] schestowitz >>> As such, Tagliamonte would have been considered a civil service [21:52] schestowitz >>> employee, and was supposed to have been hired on an apolitical [21:52] schestowitz >>> basis. [21:52] schestowitz >> The Federal Regulation does not mention differences on that page. It [21:52] schestowitz >> speaks of employees regardless of the basis of employment. [21:52] schestowitz >> [21:52] schestowitz >>> In conclusion, while asking his employer if they are being paid to [21:52] schestowitz >>> help instigate a mob against RMS seems to be an amusing example of [21:52] schestowitz >>> "sauce for the gander" [21:52] schestowitz >> First time I have read your comment, and because did not find facts [21:52] schestowitz >> (and still don't see enough) on the page, I was in agreement. Now I [21:52] schestowitz >> see it right that Pocock points out to that violation, at least if [21:52] schestowitz >> the email there is genuine, as that is clearly abuse of power. [21:52] schestowitz >> [21:52] schestowitz >>> Tagliamonte's previous government employment and trip through the [21:52] schestowitz >>> "revolving door" to the private sector does not stand out as reason [21:52] schestowitz >>> to suspect that the government is somehow behind the attacks on RMS. [21:52] schestowitz >>> The "revolving door" is simply too widespread to support a claim of [21:52] schestowitz >>> that type of corruption. [21:52] schestowitz >> From visits to many countries, even if one person employed in [21:52] schestowitz >> government does some action, it is act of government, that is why [21:52] schestowitz >> there is the regulation (law) to prevent the abuse of power. I just do [21:52] schestowitz >> not see what would be the sanction for that. [21:52] schestowitz >> [21:52] schestowitz >> Prohibitions may apply after the employment: [21:52] schestowitz >> [21:52] schestowitz >> 5 CFR 2641.202 - Two-year restriction on any former employee's representations to United States concerning particular matter for which the employee had official responsibility. [21:52] schestowitz >> https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/2641.202 [21:52] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.law.cornell.edu | 5 CFR 2641.202 - Two-year restriction on any former employee's representations to United States concerning particular matter for which the employee had official responsibility. | CFR | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute [21:52] schestowitz > [21:52] schestowitz > Paul R. Tagliamonte was employed in the White House, US Digital Service [21:52] schestowitz > and Pentagon, Defense Digital Service from 2015 to 2019. There are more [21:52] schestowitz > photos on the site now. [21:52] schestowitz > [21:52] schestowitz > This takes in all of the following Debian conspiracies and it looks like [21:52] schestowitz > he was an active participant in all of them: [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > - public shaming of Jacob Appelbaum with falsified accusations [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > - Debian Christmas lynchings 2018, blackmailing Dr Norbert Preining to [21:53] schestowitz > make a forced confession early in 2019 [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > - death of Lucy Wayland during the period that the fascists were [21:53] schestowitz > blackmailing Dr Preining [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > Tagliamonte has contributed to this toxic culture, the email below [21:53] schestowitz > proves it. Now he added his weight to the lynching of Dr Stallman by [21:53] schestowitz > seconding the motion for a GR vote. He does not appear to be a [21:53] schestowitz > Government employee right now but his firm is a defense contractor so it [21:53] schestowitz > is almost the same thing. [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > I read the coroner's report for Lucy Wayland. She died far too young, 2 [21:53] schestowitz > days before de Blanc gave her talk at FOSDEM about how to blackmail [21:53] schestowitz > people. Wayland died from the type of accident that is much more likely [21:53] schestowitz > during a period of acute stress. I can see somebody dying in similar [21:53] schestowitz > circumstances during the current lynching of Dr Stallman. In both [21:53] schestowitz > cases, Molly de Blanc appears to be present. [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > When people write emails like this in Debian, they are impersonating a [21:53] schestowitz > police officer. After all, they use words like "enforce", they make [21:53] schestowitz > verdicts, they make punishments. There are real crimes and real victims. [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > -------- Forwarded Message -------- [21:53] schestowitz > Subject: Re: Jacob Appelbaum and harrassement [21:53] schestowitz > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:53:50 -0400 [21:53] schestowitz > From: Paul R. Tagliamonte [21:53] schestowitz > To: Debian Private List [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > The DAM is not providing input into the criminal process. [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > The DAM will be providing input into who is and is not a Debian Project [21:53] schestowitz > Member. [21:53] schestowitz > [21:53] schestowitz > A member who threatens the safety of others should be removed, if we [21:53] schestowitz > trust that it's an issue. [21:54] schestowitz > [21:54] schestowitz > We have Debian project members who can substantiate these claims, and [21:54] schestowitz > do not feel safe. [21:54] schestowitz > [21:54] schestowitz > Will we act to create a safe space for our members? [21:54] schestowitz > [21:54] schestowitz > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Piotr Oarowski wrote: [21:54] schestowitz >> [Rhonda D'Vine, 2016-06-15] [21:54] schestowitz >>> Come on. Really? Sorry, I consider your response pretty disgusting. [21:54] schestowitz >> so if we see another email with a message that some DD (about whom we [21:54] schestowitz >> might never heard before) will be expelled because there are "accusations" [21:54] schestowitz >> out there, we should just respond with "burn him alive!"? [21:54] schestowitz >> [21:54] schestowitz >> What if these accusations where not true? Don't we have courts for a [21:54] schestowitz >> reason? Since when is DAM qualified to evaluate criminal evidence? [21:54] schestowitz >> [21:54] schestowitz >> Don't get me wrong: I'm pretty sure I'd be demanding higher punishment [21:54] schestowitz >> for rapists, murderers and other degenerates than most of you... but [21:54] schestowitz >> AFTER proven guilty! [21:54] schestowitz >> [21:54] schestowitz > [21:54] schestowitz > [21:54] schestowitz > -- :wq [21:59] *rsheftel100016 (~rsheftel@pool-100-35-139-62.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [22:01] *rsheftel10001 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [22:01] schestowitz >> Drupal places superficial limits on length of comment titles. Thus the [22:01] schestowitz >> truncation, if any. I try to put all the RMS-related stuff in one long [22:01] schestowitz >> node in Drupal to alleviate the s/n ratio problem. [22:01] schestowitz > This is the title now: [22:01] schestowitz > [22:01] schestowitz > "Daniel Pocock: Jacob Appelbaum character assassination was pushed from [22:01] schestowitz > the White House" [22:01] schestowitz > [22:01] schestowitz > This is what appears in the side bar on the main page: [22:01] schestowitz > [22:01] schestowitz > "Daniel Pocock: Jacob Appelbaum character assassination.." [22:01] schestowitz > [22:01] schestowitz > The White House (or Pentagon) is the most significant part, could you [22:01] schestowitz > please consider this, it is more concise for the side bar: [22:01] schestowitz > [22:01] schestowitz > "White House linked to Jacob Appelbaum accusations" [22:01] schestowitz This sidebar changes quickly, I don't want to edit minor details for something that will be out of view in a few hours anyway... [22:25] *rsheftel1000168 (~rsheftel@pool-100-35-139-62.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techbytes [22:27] *rsheftel100016 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) ● Apr 03 [23:56] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20444280#39cf704076fb0139eadb32a01d0dfba2 [23:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I see that #Trello now works with spammy sites on fluff and placements. Trello is #Surveillance ... DO NOT EVER USE IT! It's also #ProprietarySoftware but that's a side issue... [23:56] schestowitz "#kanboard is opensource. It's possible to add on your own nextcloud server https://github.com/kanboard/kanboard" [23:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | GitHub - kanboard/kanboard: Kanban project management software [23:56] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20439984#2a197c1076fc01395de708002785b8a8 [23:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Biden Should Ditch Bipartisanship and Focus on Pressuring Centrists Democrats https://www.teenvogue.com/story/biden-bipartisanship-democrats [23:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.teenvogue.com | Biden Should Ditch Bipartisanship and Focus on Pressuring Centrists Democrats | Teen Vogue [23:56] schestowitz "AKA the status quo." [23:56] schestowitz Shallow 'moderation'