●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, April 03, 2022 ●● ● Apr 03 [00:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:58] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3rg2vuuz5nsw4.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [01:00] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [01:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3rg2vuuz5nsw4.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:28] *unauthorized (~antoine@joseon-b2h.flk.26hoca.IP) has joined #techbytes [01:29] *unauthorized (~antoine@joseon-b2h.flk.26hoca.IP) has left #techbytes [01:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:57] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mzny54yzqx8ni.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [02:31] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:45] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fzp3zhdnu3dyn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [06:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:34] schestowitz = [06:34] schestowitz = [06:34] schestowitz https://www.memri.org/reports/palestinian-islamic-scholar-mraweh-nassar-jews-now-claim-biblical-jerusalem-located-ukraine [06:34] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.memri.org | Palestinian Islamic Scholar Mraweh Nassar: The Jews Now Claim Biblical Jerusalem Is Located In Ukraine; They Instigated The War There In Order To Empty Out Ukraine And Move In | MEMRI [06:34] schestowitz = [06:34] schestowitz https://www.teenvogue.com/story/women-stem-alyssa-carson [06:34] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.teenvogue.com | Alyssa Carson, Youngest Astronaut in Training, Wants to Make Space for Women in STEM | Teen Vogue [06:34] schestowitz = [06:34] schestowitz x https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/think-tank-finds-u-s-wireless-speeds-among-best-in-world/ [06:34] schestowitz # paid shills paid to mislead completely; some 40% are without adequate connectivity [06:34] schestowitz = [06:34] schestowitz x https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-squirm-trump-presses-putin-dirt-bidens-rcna22479 [06:34] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-broadbandbreakfast.com | Think Tank Finds U.S. Wireless Speeds Among Best in World : Broadband Breakfast [06:34] schestowitz # the article fails to call out this illegal activity [06:34] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nbcnews.com | Republicans squirm as Trump presses Putin for dirt on Bidens [06:35] schestowitz = ● Apr 03 [08:22] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [08:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techbytes [08:53] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:55] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [11:04] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@xfwaq643p6iza.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:46] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [12:01] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:58] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [13:42] *foreshortens (~disco_724@joseon-b2h.flk.26hoca.IP) has joined #techbytes [13:44] *foreshortens (~disco_724@joseon-b2h.flk.26hoca.IP) has left #techbytes [13:51] schestowitz http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/03/30/suepo-industrial-actions-striking-success/ [13:51] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | SUEPO: Industrial actions striking success - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:51] schestowitz " [13:51] schestowitz Attentive Observer [13:51] schestowitz MARCH 31, 2022 AT 10:33 AM [13:51] schestowitz The dismantling of the EPO by the actual president of the EPO continues unabated. [13:51] schestowitz For a start, he intends to push his teleworking scheme at any cost, although it is manifestly against the Centralisation protocol, even in its amended form. [13:51] schestowitz The document on professional mobility (CA19/12 and CA 19/12 Corr. 1) was to be submitted for information to the latest AC on 23.03.2022. [13:51] schestowitz If was certainly also part of the discussions at the Board of the Administrative Council (B28) which is actually the decision instance. In general, what is decided at a B28 meeting is normally rubber stamped at the following meeting of the AC. [13:51] schestowitz According to an open letter to the members of AC, the Central Staff Committee drew the attention to its members that under the pretext to support to deliver high-quality patents (sic) the President intends to use Seconded National Experts (SNEs) to work in the patent granting process, in particular within divisions without formally being part of those divisions. Such a way of working of examining divisions is certainly not compatible with the [13:51] schestowitz EPC. [13:51] schestowitz Here again, only the teleworking scheme pushed by the actual president would enable those SNE to contribute to examining divisions of the EPO, whilst they are still sitting in their national offices. [13:51] schestowitz The Central Staff Committee suggested to hold a conference of ministers of the Contracting States under Article 4a EPC. [13:51] schestowitz In view of the diligence of his predecessor and of the present incumbent to convene such a conference, it is doubtful that such a conference will ever been held. [13:51] schestowitz One thing is however abundantly clear: the tail is till wagging the dog and the AC has completely given up its role of controlling the actions of the president. [13:51] schestowitz One wonders what could well be the hidden agenda of the last two tenants of the 10th floor. Could it be dismantling the EPO? [13:51] schestowitz At least the present tenant, although called in order to restore peace at the EPO, has done everything in order to increase the conflicts between staff and management. [13:51] schestowitz By reducing the salaries, reducing all other advantages or allowances, on the basis of a very shoddy financial study, everything is made to render a job less attractive at the EPO. [13:51] schestowitz It might well be that in the end it could be a good solution to second to the EPO national examiners to actually do the job of examiners. [13:51] schestowitz It is to be hoped that examiners will be able to sustain the pressure from management, which in the last years was always very prompt in threatening sanctions which can end up rather quickly with sanctions up to dismissal for incompetence if the target is not achieved. Legal means to this effect have been created. [13:51] schestowitz REPLY [13:51] schestowitz Concerned observer [13:51] schestowitz MARCH 31, 2022 AT 9:19 PM [13:52] schestowitz Attentive, it does not take a genius to discern the hidden agenda of the President and the AC. This is because almost all of their controversial decisions seem to me to be designed to increase the profit that the Member States, AC delegations and EPO senior management can extract from the coffers of the EPO. [13:52] schestowitz The trouble for applicants and EPO (non-senior) staff is that to keep the trough of profit full enough for all of the greedy snouts feeding from it, the pips have to be well and truly squeezed regardless of the seriously negative effect that might have on the EPOs quality of service, or any illegalities / immoralities regarding degraded employment conditions, etc. [13:52] schestowitz The direction of travel is clear enough. The scandal has been ongoing for well over a decade now and shows no signs of slowing. In fact, the pace seems to be picking up under the current President. The question is, what on earth could possibly persuade the EPO to reverse course and start paying attention to the rule of law, and to get back to providing a proper quality of (public) service? [13:52] schestowitz If you can answer that question, then you will have solved a puzzle that has baffled the rest of us (who pay attention to these things) for a very long time. [13:52] schestowitz REPLY [13:52] schestowitz Patent robot [13:52] schestowitz APRIL 1, 2022 AT 9:30 AM [13:52] schestowitz If France and the Netherlands opened the PCT national route, the EPO might start paying attention [13:52] schestowitz REPLY [13:52] schestowitz Attentive Observer [13:52] schestowitz APRIL 1, 2022 AT 10:48 AM [13:52] schestowitz Dear Concerned Observer, [13:52] schestowitz As far as quality of work is concerned, one has just to look at the decisions published by the BA. [13:52] schestowitz The number of patents maintained in amended form or even revoked is steadily increasing. [13:52] schestowitz Although oppositions are not evenly distributed over all technical areas, some seeing hardly any, but if one extrapolates the 5% of opposed patents to the rest of the granted patents, the number of patents in force which are not really valid must be extremely high. [13:52] schestowitz It is only if patents are used in infringement proceedings or if a declaration of non-infringement is thought, that the validity of the patents is considered in detail. It would be interesting to have the figure of the number of patents nullified or amended in national proceedings. The EPO does probably have the figure, but for obvious reasons it will not be published. [13:52] schestowitz The problem is that industry, and especially the big one, is happy with the situation. As long as the quality of EPO patents is somehow better than that of US patents, it will be satisfied. It enough to threaten competitors. As long as the number of patents opposed or subject to national litigation remains at the present level, nothing will probably change. [13:52] schestowitz There is no doubt that the quality of the work delivered by the EPO was much higher in the past, but as long as the users are satisfied with the output of the EPO, why bother? [13:52] schestowitz In this respect, what will be happening at the UPC, which is primarily conceived for the big industry, is symptomatic. Why is it that the basic fee for an action in nullity is nearly double of that for infringement? This is not a coincidence. [13:52] schestowitz With an opposition, the quality of a patent can be tested relatively early. If one has to wait a national procedure, or before the UPC, the latency time is much longer. [13:52] schestowitz In any case, the examiner in charge has in the meantime achieved his target and the EPO and the national offices have cashed fees, so that everybody is pleased. [13:52] schestowitz It is only if the industry, large or small, wakes up and realises that it is spending money which could as well be thrown out of the window that the situation may change. [13:52] schestowitz Professional organisations, like epi, could do something about it as well, but the danger here is that they could well saw the branch on which they are sitting. [13:52] schestowitz Lawyers are also happy charging fees. [13:52] schestowitz At the end of the day, as long as the cow can be milked, why change something? [13:52] schestowitz I would thus claim that the notion of public service is grossly misused. It is as public as the British public schools are actually public. [13:52] schestowitz It might all sound cynical, but in this day and age, paying attention to the rule of law is not a priority for many. Here again see what is happening at the UPC. [13:52] schestowitz REPLY [13:52] schestowitz LightBlue [13:52] schestowitz APRIL 1, 2022 AT 11:44 AM [13:52] schestowitz Attentive, would you file an opposition against a patent if, after diligent research, you had identified no convincing arguments? [13:52] schestowitz REPLY [13:52] schestowitz Concerned observer [13:52] schestowitz APRIL 1, 2022 AT 11:10 AM [13:52] schestowitz Question: given that ILO AT judgement no. 4430 declared Circular 347 unlawful, and set it aside, what was the legal basis for the EPOs strike registration tool? More pertinently, why would EPO management persist with providing a tool that had no formal legal standing? [13:52] schestowitz To my knowledge, the EPO has not formally rescinded Circular 347, and replaced it with rules that comply with fundamental human rights. Thus, whilst the ILO AT would almost certainly find the provisions of that Circular to be unenforceable, the EPOs rules for staff still formally include a requirement to use the strike registration tool. [13:52] schestowitz Thus, could it possibly be that, by providing a registration tool, and by (deliberately?) making that tool unreliable, the management were trying to make staff think twice about going on strike? If so, that would demonstrate a complete contempt for both the ILO ATs rulings and fundamental rights guaranteed under EU law (and the ECHR). [13:52] schestowitz " ● Apr 03 [15:43] *foreshortens (~disco_724@joseon-b2h.flk.26hoca.IP) has joined #techbytes [15:44] *foreshortens (~disco_724@joseon-b2h.flk.26hoca.IP) has left #techbytes ● Apr 03 [16:25] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [16:28] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:40] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [19:07] schestowitz https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1342783589019815941?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1342783589019815941:1342856362555609093:1344378778175934479:0:1346660779104931846 [19:08] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Minds [19:08] schestowitz " [19:08] schestowitz my statement is correct - both .net and vscode are licensed under the MIT license, not sure where you are getting your info. [19:08] schestowitz thumb_up [19:08] schestowitz thumb_down [19:08] schestowitz " [19:18] schestowitz > Hi Roy, [19:18] schestowitz > [19:18] schestowitz > Thanks for sharing that chat log. I didn't mean to offend you with [19:18] schestowitz > "hater" but I had to distance myself from the way you comment on MSFT [19:18] schestowitz > because I actually look at them as procompetitive compared to Apple and [19:18] schestowitz > Google when it comes to app distribution. [19:18] schestowitz > [19:18] schestowitz > No matter where one stands on MSFT, the key thing here is that after 23 [19:18] schestowitz > or 24 years, they've decided to "Defund ACT" and I wish others could [19:18] schestowitz > follow suit. [19:18] schestowitz > [19:18] schestowitz > Best, [19:18] schestowitz I wonder where Jon Zuck and others are today... [19:27] schestowitz > I checked on Zuck on LinkedIn and he's in charge of some entity [19:27] schestowitz > affiliated with ACT names Innovators Network Foundation. No idea whether [19:27] schestowitz > that's a real job or just a means of keeping him on the payroll and out [19:27] schestowitz > of harm's way at the same time ;-) [19:27] schestowitz He did so much harm. [19:27] schestowitz Today I recorded the last part of an 8 parts, about 20 hours of videos in total. It went through your posts, just like all prior parts. I asked aloud again, why are you ignoring the EPO scandals? We also need more people to fight UPC. [19:28] schestowitz > M$ is worse than it has ever been and should not get a free pass no [19:28] schestowitz > matter how much worse Apple gets compared to M$ itself. [19:28] schestowitz > [19:28] schestowitz > "Bill Gates might no be the Devil himself but they are [19:28] schestowitz > certainly acquainted on a first name basis" ● Apr 03 [20:28] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jrvr9devqhehi.irc) has joined #techbytes [20:56] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 03 [21:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:05] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jrvr9devqhehi.irc) has joined #techbytes [21:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:14] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ngwwik2p7s8xs.irc) has joined #techbytes [21:24] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [21:26] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tzp7q74avjj2c.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Apr 03 [22:13] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:24] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@e4z63rvppmwhu.irc) has joined #techbytes