●● IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 ●● ● May 04 [00:03] schestowitz__ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/04/boeings-comma-drama-commas-and-taking.html?showComment=1620041523932#c5886872176631293897 [00:03] schestowitz__ " [00:03] schestowitz__ @ Anonymous of Tuesday, 27 April 2021 at 14:07:00 BST [00:03] schestowitz__ You cite three decisions of the BA quoting and claiming that the BA should look at the description when analysing a claim. Those decisions are very old and have been superseded by much more recent ones. [00:03] schestowitz__ But even in those days, there were decisions which held that a clarity deficiency in a claim wording cannot be rectified by the fact that the description could possibly help the reader to understand the technical subject-matter which the claim was intended to define. See in this respect decision T 49/99, Reasons, point 12, referring to decision T 1129/97, OJ EPO 2001, 273, Reasons, points 2.1.2 and 2.1.3. In other words Art 69 is not [00:03] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Could not resolve host: ipkitten.blogspot.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/04/boeings-comma-drama-commas-and-taking.html?showComment=1620041523932 ) [00:03] schestowitz__ to be used when assessing the content of the claim. [00:03] schestowitz__ In the catchword of T 56/04, it was held that an interpretation in terms of Art 69(1) cannot cure a lack of clarity, because compliance with the requirements of Art 84 cannot be achieved by applying Art 69(1) (cf. point 2.12 of the grounds for the decision). [00:03] schestowitz__ Other decisions of the same content: T 681/01, T 1279/04 and T 223/05 [00:03] schestowitz__ The nub of all recent decisions is to specify that when a claimed feature is taken with its ordinary meaning there no need no need to invoke Art. 69(1). There are too many decisions going in this direction so that it is pointless to start quoting all of them. [00:03] schestowitz__ I will content myself to quote a very recent one T 30/17and the decisions cited therein: T 1018/02, T 0431/03, T 1404/05, T 1395/07 and T 0197/10. [00:03] schestowitz__ T 1450/05 held that Art 69 and its protocol were intended to assist a patent proprietor in contending for a broader interpretation of a claim than perhaps its wording warranted, not for cutting down the scope of a claim. [00:03] schestowitz__ How a claim is to be interpreted does not only have an effect when assessing the conformity of the claim with Art 84 but also with Art 123(2). [00:03] schestowitz__ " [00:35] schestowitz__ https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html [00:35] schestowitz__ " [00:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Updates [00:35] schestowitz__ May 3, 2021. Reworded two items in the Table of Contents, to make navigation as clear as possible: [00:35] schestowitz__ Other Articles of Support -> External Articles of Support [00:35] schestowitz__ Related Articles -> External Related Articles [00:35] schestowitz__ May 3, 2021. [00:36] schestowitz__ 1. Clarify the licensing terms in the footer to say that part of the contents in some pages may be exceptions to the default CC-BY-SA license. [00:36] schestowitz__ 2. Added a license exception note in the following pages: Sylvia Paull's article; Renata Avila's article; Margarita Lacabe's article; Laird Wilcox's article. [00:36] schestowitz__ " ● May 04 [01:14] schestowitz__ > Hey Roy, [01:14] schestowitz__ Hi, nice to speak today in IRC. [01:14] schestowitz__ > Hope all's well. [01:14] schestowitz__ Yes, Rianne was invited for the jab, but we decided to wait longer and her mother agrees. My brother and dad likewise. [01:14] schestowitz__ > I had my jab on Friday morning just passed. [01:14] schestowitz__ > [01:14] schestowitz__ > Was not well on Friday evening, lost 3 pounds in a day. [01:14] schestowitz__ I am not surprised. About 10 ago I published this: [01:14] schestowitz__ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/04/21/astrazeneca-experiences/ [01:14] schestowitz__ I don't know about the other vaccines, but this one I'd avoid. Minutes ago at work a colleague of mine told a similar story about her second AZ jab. She's only about 30 (Kim) and unable to work. [01:14] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com Blog Archive Message of Concern About AstraZeneca (Which Now Renames Its Products to Dodge Bad Reputation) [01:14] schestowitz__ > My gut feel was uncertain whether to take it as i'm quite young and [01:14] schestowitz__ > working from home don't present much risk to other people, but the signs [01:14] schestowitz__ > are that we wouldn't be able to travel if we didn't, so felt I had no [01:14] schestowitz__ > option. [01:14] schestowitz__ Those are scare tactics. I've long said don't insult early adopters but don't feel compelled to become one. [01:14] schestowitz__ > A little concerning how this will pan out going forwards. [01:14] schestowitz__ > [01:14] schestowitz__ > It was the Astra Zeneca jab. [01:14] schestowitz__ I was guessing that when you said "Etihad". See my blog post. [01:14] schestowitz__ > Have you had yours yet? [01:15] schestowitz__ I'm not against vaccination of course, but I'm in no hurry to get any of the current ones (there are many types, J&J sounded good at first but not anymore; my dad was glad he waited too, hearing about its side effects.... as that's the one he wanted to get). [01:15] schestowitz__ In the meantime we individually wash everything that gets in the house, food included, we wear masks etc. and don't socialise. I'm reading about and assessing the situation. [01:15] schestowitz__ BTW, Bill Gates is getting divorced. I have a lot to say about that, but it would distract from the real scandals. [01:18] schestowitz__ > On "American Axle" case, the SCOTUS has asked the Biden's avocate [01:18] schestowitz__ > gnral his position. [01:18] schestowitz__ > [01:18] schestowitz__ > There is a need of a public ptition to wake Biden up, and put him on [01:18] schestowitz__ > our side for the next years... [01:18] schestowitz__ [00:08] Dennis Crouch, who is admittedly funded by the patent lobby (e.g. those working to undermine patent quality and cancel Section 101), is at it again https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/supreme-offers-eligibility.html #scotus #lobbying [01:18] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentlyo.com | Supreme Court offers Hope on Eligibility Case | Patently-O [01:18] schestowitz__ Re: Biden swpat [01:24] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:24] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:26] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [01:27] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes ● May 04 [05:57] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/gypster2004/status/1389423135741685762 [05:57] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@gypster2004: @Chesschick01 @PeterRQuinones This is worth a read. Rules for thee but not for me https://t.co/Mu5OQ9MFTL [05:57] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Guest Post: Finer Details About Rick Allen Jones, Bill Gates Employee Arrested for Trade of Child Exploitation Footage | Techrights [05:58] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/BiskyRusiness/status/1389336250377818124 [05:58] schestowitz__ "Rick Allen Jones was required to register as a sex offender. Through three detailed searches, UNITED STATES, WASH. STATE, KING COUNTY, he is not registered anywhere. There is also no Inmate DOC # as his 90-day sentence was Ankle Monitored House Arrest" [05:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Unexpected response ● May 04 [08:49] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [08:49] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [08:50] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [08:50] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [08:52] SiliconBard Hi Roy, today I'm working from home, I'd not noticed the messages over most of the weekend as it been quite busy. RE: Jab yes had my firsst - Astra, Shell also had hers. "BTW, Bill Gates is getting divorced. " - I wonder if she will cite Windows Vista on the divorse papers as one of the reasons? ;) ● May 04 [10:00] *acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techbytes [10:01] *acer-box____ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● May 04 [11:34] schestowitz__ \hi, SiliconBard [11:34] schestowitz__ I tried to reach you yesterday [11:40] schestowitz__ I had enough time to record an ep [11:40] schestowitz__ instead, I: [11:40] schestowitz__ 1) found 10 tracks for jingles [11:40] schestowitz__ as I noted in the techrights channel [11:40] schestowitz__ you may not have noticed [11:41] schestowitz__ so we're covered for future shows [11:41] schestowitz__ I did loooooads of work on video stuff, like editing stuff from the command line using ffmpeg and bash [11:41] schestowitz__ 2) made it possible to compress multimedia files better [11:41] schestowitz__ so we're all set for some awesome stuff ahead [11:41] schestowitz__ regarding Gates, I did a video about it this morning [11:42] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/media-still-distracts/ [11:42] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Media Frenzy Around Gates Divorce Helps Distract From Bills Crimes | Techrights ● May 04 [12:10] SiliconBard fantastic...sorry for late reply....as I say Im home working so I have two desktops....I'll probably be homeworking for the rest of the week so depending on my workload, maybe be able to do something during day hours in the week. [12:12] schestowitz__ almost any time suits me [12:12] schestowitz__ sometimes even later or very early, as I work nighttime shifts still [12:12] schestowitz__ same as a decade back [12:12] schestowitz__ same job, too [12:13] schestowitz__ next episode will be vastly easier to do as I refreshed the whole workflow thing, edit, upload, save, etc. [12:14] schestowitz__ my notes to self: [12:14] schestowitz__ -Atari/MAME, games, microsoft monopoly, stadia, drm, rights of ownership... [12:14] schestowitz__ -RMS, open source, openwashing etc. I can lead on as it's something I've been watching closely [12:14] schestowitz__ -Another day we should discuss Microsoft shills and media operatives, with names like Mary Jo Foley and Mr. Wilcox, Andre Da Costa (shills galore, not just him) ● May 04 [19:40] SiliconBard Microsoft continues its gaming strategy. Now you can play without eating up your data on the mobile...... https://ee.co.uk/gaming?mchannel=PZ&WT.mc_id=ON_MEC_A_PZ_spottedbargains&clickref=1011lgHUvRvY&WT.tsrc=Affiliate&dclid=CLrcv6XWsPACFbUh0wodZZgAQQ [19:40] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ee.co.uk | Mobile Gaming | Xbox Game Pass Ultimate on EE ● May 04 [20:23] schestowitz__ ha [20:23] schestowitz__ maybe something to cover in the next show [20:23] schestowitz__ as I have little or no clue about this.. [20:47] *rsheftel1 has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [20:47] *rsheftel1 (~rsheftel@pool-100-35-139-62.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techbytes ● May 04 [21:55] *SiliconBard has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)) ● May 04 [22:05] *SiliconBard (~SiliconBa@host86-167-60-35.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techbytes [22:46] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:56] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/redhog_org/status/1389694140183683078 [22:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@redhog_org: @schestowitz Shameless self-promotion: Just do it all in Python! https://t.co/xdBHECWBPA ;) [22:56] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> redhog.github.io | pieshell | Python shell environment that combines the expressiveness of shell pipelines with the prower of python iterators [22:58] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1389569048791375877 [22:58] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz UPC is the next Kangaroo court. [22:59] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/1389535202955907074 [22:59] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Unexpected response ● May 04 [23:01] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/thermicorp/status/1389522853947662336 [23:01] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@thermicorp: @schestowitz What? Nom [23:01] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/Muskoka10293846/status/1389214849499029505 [23:01] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Muskoka10293846: @schestowitz https://t.co/E4GNHX1YEP sign this [23:01] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Could not resolve host: change.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://change.org/stopbillc-10 ) [23:26] *SiliconBard has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)) [23:51] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techbytes