●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, May 04, 2024 ●● ● May 04 [00:50] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes ● May 04 [01:06] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:18] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:21] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techbytes [01:21] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #techbytes MinceR [01:35] schestowitz https://disguised.work/debian/european-heritage-days-debian-private-leaks-1996-1998/ [01:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-disguised.work | Disguised Work -- European Heritage Days & Debian-Private leaks 1996 to 1998 inclusive [01:35] schestowitz "In the spirit of the hugely popular European Heritage Days, where unusual buildings and artworks are opened to the public for one weekend each year, Disguised.Work volunteers are opening the debian-private vaults to bring you more relics from that period in the 1990s when volunteers were hoodwinked by Bruce Perens, Software in the Public Interest and trademarks. [01:35] schestowitz Get the whole leak from 1996 to December 1998, total 14,000 messages, with IPFS: QmZFqHNwYBgJKesM3LGibyeTMWs15dgAq74shFtQJbamD9 [01:35] schestowitz An earlier leak from 1996/1997 contained approximately 8000 messages although some were missing and some threads were broken. Thanks to behavior of Debian leaders like Chris Lamb, Sam Hartman and Jonathan Carter, the leaks keep coming and now 13,940 messages are in the wild. Today's leak adds everything up to the end of 1998. [01:35] schestowitz Please be respectful and remember that the burden of Debian-Private gossip culture was a major factor in the Frans Pop Debian Day suicide. RIP Frans Pop. RIP Privacy." [01:39] *jacobk (~quassel@8cgmbeq9ipg9s.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:47] schestowitz https://disguised.work/debian/debian-private-leaker-was-right/ [01:47] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-disguised.work | Disguised Work -- debian-private leaker was right [01:47] schestowitz "Back in 2019, somebody who appears to be a Debian Developer leaked the first couple of years of debian-private, emails from 1996 and 1997. Traces of the leak linger in the debian-project archives. Replicas are hosted around the Internet, click for links. [01:47] schestowitz What is really fascinating is the text the leaker has placed on every page of this HTML-formatted version of the archive: [01:47] schestowitz The debian-private mailing list leak, part 1. Volunteers have complained about Blackmail. Lynchings. Character assassination. Defamation. Cyberbullying. Volunteers who gave many years of their lives are picked out at random for cruel social experiments. The former DPL's girlfriend Molly de Blanc is given volunteers to experiment on for her crazy talks. These volunteers never consented to be used like lab rats. We don't either. debia [01:47] schestowitz n-private can no longer be a safe space for the cabal. Let these monsters have nowhere to hide. Volunteers are not disposable. We stand with the victims. [01:47] schestowitz The leaker has named Molly de Blanc and described clearly the way she operates. In a leak from 24 December 2019, the leaker has predicted exactly what this toxic woman would do to Dr Richard Stallman in March and April 2021. Please join the call to have Molly de Blanc arrested for cyberstalking. [01:47] schestowitz The original leak only includes 1996 and 1997 but the "part 1" title suggests more will come. More threads involving Dr Stallman appeared in 1998 and 1999." [01:51] schestowitz https://disguised.work/debian/molly-de-blanc-pushing-volunteers-boundaries-debconf-orgy/ [01:51] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-disguised.work | Disguised Work -- Molly de Blanc & Debian: pushing volunteers boundaries, DebConf orgy [01:51] schestowitz "DebConf going online in 2020 doesn't mean we can't have the full experience. Yesterday, we began with the foreplay of plotting defamation with Erinn Clark and today we move on to a full-blown DebConf orgy of hypocrisy." ● May 04 [02:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [02:55] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [03:04] *jacobk (~quassel@838aynky6btpe.irc) has joined #techbytes [03:24] schestowitz > 1) [03:24] schestowitz > [03:24] schestowitz > I connected and saw this: [03:24] schestowitz > [03:24] schestowitz > [03:24] schestowitz > 23:30 -!- You're now known as TheRealChrisPunches [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 -!- ERROR You have been banned from this server (abuse) [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 -!- Irssi: Connection lost to irc.techrights.org [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.techrights.org port [03:24] schestowitz > 6667 [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.techrights.org [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to irc.techrights.org [94.76.207.113] [03:24] schestowitz > port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 Waiting for CAP LS response... [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.techrights.org established [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 -!- ERROR You are banned from this server (abuse) [03:24] schestowitz > 23:46 -!- Irssi: Connection lost to irc.techrights.org [03:24] schestowitz > [03:24] schestowitz > Really? That will need fixed because I am not banned from that [03:24] schestowitz > network. If that wasn't you, then your staff roster needs to be [03:24] schestowitz > adjusted. [03:24] schestowitz No, that was not me. ● May 04 [05:27] *parsifal (~parsifal@uuar9r28yasyu.irc) has joined #techbytes [05:54] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [07:14] *jacobk (~quassel@32hz32it3ih2k.irc) has joined #techbytes [07:15] schestowitz "Microsoft details broad plan to enhance its cybersecurity practices" [07:15] schestowitz x https://siliconangle.com/2024/05/03/microsoft-details-broad-plan-enhance-cybersecurity-practices/ [07:15] schestowitz # yeah, close the company down and blacklist the 'former' staff from [07:15] schestowitz # pivoting into IT [07:15] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Microsoft details broad plan to enhance its cybersecurity practices - SiliconANGLE [07:21] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:59] *SaphirJD (~SaphirJD@9iz9c2tcvthrn.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 04 [08:45] *jacobk (~quassel@nm9nu8gvkax2u.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 04 [09:06] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:10] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@qezxp5nudz5uq.irc) has joined #techbytes [09:34] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [10:36] *jacobk (~quassel@cd5wen6y9rvfa.irc) has joined #techbytes [10:43] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [12:09] *DaxSon has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [12:10] *DaxSon (~DaxSon@freenode-2ue.6ih.pu7h8v.IP) has joined #techbytes [12:44] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@j9gt2haw74jrk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 04 [13:01] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:11] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@j9gt2haw74jrk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 04 [16:07] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● May 04 [17:41] *jacobk (~quassel@kud6hdan7mv6c.irc) has joined #techbytes [17:44] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:50] *psydroid2 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) ● May 04 [19:04] *jacobk (~quassel@kud6hdan7mv6c.irc) has joined #techbytes [19:08] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 04 [20:30] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techbytes [20:51] schestowitz https://disguised.work/debian/donald-norwood-debian-spamming-users-defamation-dirty-politics/ [20:51] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-disguised.work | Disguised Work -- Donald Norwood & Debian spamming users with defamation and dirty politics [20:51] schestowitz "" [20:51] schestowitz Many Debian users received spam from Donald Norwood through the debian-news email list and social media networks this week. [20:51] schestowitz Norwood has attacked a developer with over 20 years experience. [20:51] schestowitz Looking at Norwood's own profile, we see that he has never made a single package. He is one of the non-developing developers. Many of these non-developing developers are wives and girlfriends who have an honorary title. We don't know exactly how Norwood got this title but nonetheless, if he never made a package himself, how can he judge the competence of a real Debian Developer? [20:51] schestowitz Any genuine expulsion involves a tribunal or grievance process where both sides get to review the evidence together and the accused has a right of reply. When we look at the accusations from Norwood, there is no hint of any evidence, no references, no report from any tribunal. It is pure defamation. [20:51] schestowitz Moreover, the volunteer in question was never actually a member of Software in the Public Interest, the incorporated association. It simply isn't possible to expel somebody who is not a member. To falsely claim that a non-member was expelled is much like bouncing a cheque, it is a fraudulent assertion in every way." [20:51] schestowitz "It is important to ask the question: why did Donald Norwood spontaneously decide to attack this volunteer? [20:51] schestowitz Norwood's behavior is entirely consistent with a mafia gangster. This is the work of somebody who can not cook but he goes into a restaurant and demands a free lunch. He threatens to write defamatory reviews on social media and TripAdvisor if the restaurant does not obey his Code of Conduct and serve him for free. [20:51] schestowitz Of course there is more to it than that. It looks like Debian is keen to discredit anybody who may ask questions about the relationships between leadership figures and the women/students doing internships. There have been a number of high-profile cases recently, including the Albanian women granted an internship after 2 years of close encounters with Debian leader Chris Lamb and the Mozilla Tech Speaker grooming an underage girl for Out [20:51] schestowitz reachy. [20:51] schestowitz Reading between the lines, the defamatory publication from Norwood is telling all the other volunteers that if we ask probity questions, we will be banned/censored from all Debian's communications infrastructure." [20:51] schestowitz "Facts [20:51] schestowitz Donald Norwood's attack was purely political. We present some facts to prove it: [20:51] schestowitz The community elected the victim as the FSFE Fellowship representative in 2017 [20:51] schestowitz The same victim submitted a nomination for the role of Debian Project Leader in 2019 [20:51] schestowitz The same victim submitted a nomination for the Fedora Council in 2020 [20:51] schestowitz Donald Norwood published the attack shortly before the victim arrived at the annual meeting of Swiss financial institution [20:51] schestowitz " [20:54] schestowitz https://disguised.work/debian/chris-lamb-boris-johnson-debian-unpaid-bills/ [20:54] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-disguised.work | Disguised Work -- Chris Lamb, Boris Johnson & Debian unpaid bills [20:54] schestowitz "There has recently been news about pranksters in the UK using the online debt recovery form to successfully obtain a default judgment against Prime Minister Boris Johnson. Johnson's address is well known, he lives at 10 Downing Street. [20:54] schestowitz The claim against Johnson may well be a prank but when Chris Lamb finished his term as Debian Project Leader in April 2019, he left office without paying all the bills. Debian is not an incorporated organization, therefore, if you are owed money from Debian, you have to make a personal debt recovery action against the leader. For debts between 2017 and 2019," [20:54] schestowitz "Johnson's address is well known, he lives at 10 Downing Street. [20:54] schestowitz The claim against Johnson may well be a prank but when Chris Lamb finished his term as Debian Project Leader in April 2019, he left office without " [20:55] schestowitz "In March 2018, there was a Bug Squashing Party in Tirana, Albania (photos). [20:55] schestowitz A group of students from Kosovo had written to Lamb and asked for funds to travel to Tirana. The cost for each person was 8 for a hostel and 15 for the bus. These amounts seem trivial for many of us in free software but they are more than a day's income for students in a developing country. [20:55] schestowitz Lamb authorised each of their requests in writing (example below). [20:55] schestowitz Many NGOs fund events in the Balkan countries and it is typical for organizations to pay the bills on the day of the event. Some of the students did not have this much money in cash. These are developing countries and organizations have to be sensitive about this when operating there. [20:55] schestowitz There was only one Debian Developer present at the event. Everybody turned to him and one of the local organizers on Sunday morning and asked for help. To resolve it quickly, the Debian Developer went to the hotel, asked the students to give him copies of each receipt and authorisation email from Chris Lamb and then paid all the bills in cash. The total was approximately 431 [20:55] schestowitz All the documents were scanned and originals posted to Debian within 2 weeks of the event. All the names and amounts matched the authorisations from Lamb. [20:55] schestowitz Nonetheless, Chris Lamb stonewalled. He had wanted each of the female students to send him a thank you email and personally request their 23 refund. [20:55] schestowitz In many ways, this isn't practical. The banks in Kosovo deduct a fee of 15 or 20 from each incoming transfer. It is far better to process payments in cash in this region. Lamb wasn't there to help and he had poor communications with the volunteers doing the work. [20:55] schestowitz The Debian Developer continued sending requests to Lamb and never received any money. Lamb finished his term as Debian leader in April 2019 complaining that he was a victim of harassment. [20:55] schestowitz Asking for bills to be paid is not harassment. Lamb has an ego problem. He wanted each woman to send him a polite thank you message with a smiley and photo. He was furious that the female students saw another volunteer managing the money. Lamb wanted the women to see him handing out the money. This is the mentality of somebody who wanted to groom the women to be obedient interns and employees of large corporations. [20:55] schestowitz We recently looked at the way women were brought to DebConf in Brazil. Their tickets were bought for them. They were not left with unpaid bills. Most interns only receive one trip to DebConf. Did Lamb give them this second DebConf trip so he could impress them with his power and authority? Was this because he was still furious about another Developer managing the bills in Tirana? [20:55] schestowitz In May 2019, the bill was eventually paid. It was more than 12 months after the event and Sam Hartman had become Debian Project Leader. 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