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schestowitz__> Hi Roy,Jan 05 04:11
schestowitz__>Jan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> It's a good point about being in control of a key comms tool. InJan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> context, the availability of Slack so far has been pretty robust andJan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> this is a rare outage. However, we do already have a plan to migrateJan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> away from this to a fully self-hosted version of an IM product withJan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> similar functionality (Simon and I are looking at several, in particularJan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> https://element.io/. I expect us to move forward on deployment of anJan 05 04:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-element.io | Element group video messenger | Group chat | Team communication productivity app | Matrix open network | Decentralized end-to-end encryptionJan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> appropriate product early this year.Jan 05 04:11
schestowitz__>Jan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> In the meantime I don't think it is viable to bring an alternative commsJan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> product on-line just for outages as the overhead of doing this is notJan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> justified by the number or duration of outages but thanks for flagging it!Jan 05 04:11
schestowitz__>Jan 05 04:11
schestowitz__> Happy New Year by the way!Jan 05 04:11
schestowitz__Sounds good!Jan 05 04:11
schestowitz__Happy New Year to you too!Jan 05 04:11
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Techrights-secthe TM dumps are getting interupted somehow, I'll look into itJan 05 09:00
Techrights-secOne owrked as it shouldJan 05 09:00
Techrights-secThe others id notJan 05 09:00
Techrights-sec^areJan 05 09:00
Techrights-secIt may have been the ssh_host_key (public half) for TM missing fromJan 05 09:00
Techrights-secknown_hosts on TR.  Running manually again, but we'll see for sure tomorrow.Jan 05 09:00
schestowitzsome traffic swarms on TM today, coming and goingJan 05 09:32
Techrights-secmaybe groups of the curious visiting TM?Jan 05 10:13
schestowitzdoes not look like legit trafficJan 05 10:13
Techrights-sec:(Jan 05 10:18
Techrights-secThey are testing again thenJan 05 10:18
schestowitzto be fair, we cope a lot better on or with the new server, but when you get 10k reqs in 30 seconds it'll pause, not serve for a while, then get back to itJan 05 10:18
Techrights-secThe current hardware is extremely generous.  We are very much indebted for it.Jan 05 10:19
schestowitzIt's much of the same as London Town Hall (I know because we support it, and it runs Drupal)Jan 05 10:20
schestowitzBTW, I can only upload about 10mb/hour, at most 20. Any trick for pushing that up. It got a lot worse on Monday and we move back to lockdown tonight (full), so maybe the throttling is related to congestion, not my ipfs nodeJan 05 10:21
schestowitzIt pains me to make a video I can only publish (with text) half as day laterJan 05 10:21
Techrights-secNot really, yet.  Is the bottleneck your home ISP?Jan 05 10:23
Techrights-secThey usually limit uploads to a tiny fraction of the advertised bandwidth.Jan 05 10:23
Techrights-secFewer moving parts, fewer color photos, and smoother textures help, butJan 05 10:23
Techrights-seconly a little.Jan 05 10:23
Techrights-secThere is some talk about parallel sftp somewhere but I'm not sure about whether that will ever get to the main project.Jan 05 10:23
schestowitzTraffic shaping would probably bottleneck the whole household. Rianne noticed slowdowns on her laptop also.Jan 05 10:24
Techrights-secMaybe hit it with split and run a separate SFTP client for each file?Jan 05 10:25
Techrights-secThen reassamble on the TR server?Jan 05 10:25
schestowitzYesterday I tried uploading 2 different webm files in parallel and IIRC it did not help. I can try again, one video is about zdnet, another about qtJan 05 10:25
schestowitzIt only imperials publications further because both arrive later instead of one at a timeJan 05 10:26
Techrights-sechttps://parallel-ssh.org/Jan 05 10:27
Techrights-secuntestedJan 05 10:27
Techrights-secOh.  If the parallel files did not improve speed, then other parallel tricksJan 05 10:27
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-parallel-ssh.org | ParallelSSHJan 05 10:27
Techrights-secprobably won't help.Jan 05 10:27
Techrights-secAgain, I suspect your home ISP throttles bandwidth for uploads.Jan 05 10:27
Techrights-secPart of the war on general purpose computing and self-sufficiency.Jan 05 10:27
schestowitzI mentioned this in #techrights yesterday and kaniini, who does/did ISP stuff, said it's definitely sounding like a case of throttlingJan 05 10:28
Techrights-secWhat can you negotiate with the home ISP?  It might be in the contract somewhereJan 05 10:31
Techrights-secthat you can have more or it might say that you get nothing there in th efineprintJan 05 10:31
schestowitzIt has only been this bad for maybe 30 hours, so I hope it'll solve itself. Maybe some exchange died somewhere, slowing down upload speeds until they repair it. Many things are possible and I really hate phoning some truly useless and powerless call centre that just follows manuals and won't lift a finger.Jan 05 10:32
schestowitzthe whole tenability of making video is at stake though. There's no workaround, no pigeons for me to send with CD-ROM containing videos across the pong.Jan 05 10:35
schestowitzthe whole tenability of making video is at stake though. There's no workaround, no pigeons for me to send with CD-ROM containing videos across the pond.Jan 05 10:35
Techrights-secIn the short term it would be just to plam that it takes a VERY long time toJan 05 10:37
Techrights-secupload the video and take that into account.Jan 05 10:37
Techrights-secBeats 9600bps still.Jan 05 10:37
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schestowitzNot by much. LOLJan 05 10:37
schestowitzOne MB in 6 minutesJan 05 10:38
Techrights-sec:/Jan 05 10:43
Techrights-secThat's too slow.  Better ask the ISP about the home connection.Jan 05 10:43
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Techrights-sechttps://blog.steve.fi/brexit_has_come.htmlJan 05 20:47
Techrights-sec]Jan 05 20:47
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.steve.fi | Brexit has comeJan 05 20:47
Techrights-secackJan 05 20:48
Techrights-secYepJan 05 20:48
Techrights-secotr: the brexit blog post is right but omitted that it is theJan 05 20:48
Techrights-secfar right p"populists" driven by Facebook which have eliminatedJan 05 20:48
Techrights-secSwedish in practice.  The under-30 crowd are usually rather smug aboutJan 05 20:48
Techrights-secnot understanding it or being able to speak it.  I is IMO part of aJan 05 20:48
Techrights-seclong game to move to Russian instead.Jan 05 20:48
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