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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vmK3RwmXKJFXhIHIWJun 05 17:47
schestowitz"Jun 05 17:47
schestowitz@mwlucas @lilithsaintcrowJun 05 17:47
schestowitzPeople won't have butts by then... have you no vision sir?Jun 05 17:47
schestowitz"Jun 05 17:47
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vmK1Zcv0rUmmV6mESJun 05 17:47
schestowitz"Jun 05 17:47
schestowitzNada puede superar al Pajero.Jun 05 17:47
schestowitzQué risas con "ahí está el pajero de tu padre".Jun 05 17:47
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schestowitz"Jun 05 17:47
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vmK1IVCgIDtfeMsLYJun 05 17:48
schestowitz"@tek Kali."Jun 05 17:48
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vmK1D7yfDfp0ASkwyJun 05 17:48
schestowitz""Jun 05 17:48
schestowitzre: white racism, --Jun 05 17:48
schestowitz@mwlucas white racism just made me for a sec be like "you about to talk about racism against white people because if you do Imma hit you over the head real hard" :DJun 05 17:48
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schestowitz"Jun 05 17:48
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vmExt3MLPOG6OtlkOJun 05 17:49
schestowitz"@schestowitz thank you very much, Doctor. I am glad I find one more high quality resource about #Microsoft Software Is Malware other than the #FSF's one https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html. Thank you."Jun 05 17:49
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.gnu.org | Microsoft's Software Is Malware - GNU Project - Free Software FoundationJun 05 17:49
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vm8NuzZ3j6Pxuaa92Jun 05 17:49
schestowitz"I wonder sometimes. This is clearly a pro-Trump article. It is designed to feed into the fears of the decent white folk who want to be allies and yet dare not say anything because that would be appropriation. This is not an October Uprising. Amurka is not going to be replaced by a latter day Lenin. Is counterpunch a radical student magazine reads like it."Jun 05 17:49
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vm7oiJyB3KAX2LYNEJun 05 17:50
schestowitz"....think he is partially responsible for Trump !"Jun 05 17:50
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vlYbJdt7lB5pdXUiOJun 05 17:50
schestowitz"oh man here we go again."Jun 05 17:50
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vlWhu1EaeCiTsTLO4Jun 05 17:51
schestowitz"I wish everything goes well soon, Doctor."Jun 05 17:51
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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vl6UgX6ozUm5APzWKJun 05 17:51
schestowitz"Jun 05 17:51
schestowitzsomewhat evasive language here: the "process" does not mean brexit itself.Jun 05 17:51
schestowitzof course the process has been controversial, not really corrosive.Jun 05 17:51
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schestowitzwe can say anything that someone else opposes and deliberately protests is corrosive, but that is a misuses of language.Jun 05 17:51
schestowitzIt is the opposition by the left that is corrosive, not brexit itselfJun 05 17:51
schestowitzbrexit itself may be a wholesome condition and should become the status quoJun 05 17:51
schestowitza stable status quo by definition is not corrosive.Jun 05 17:51
schestowitz"Jun 05 17:51
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vl4DPzyqJ93yFYry4Jun 05 17:51
schestowitz"Well Google never said it doesn't track in Incognito mode. People assumed it does beacuse of the name and some doodles I guess (haven't been using anything chrom*)"Jun 05 17:51
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schestowitz"Jun 05 17:52
schestowitz@Sawmain @schestowitz You can self-host something like cgit or gitea. You can collaborate over email, which is well supported in git itself. If you want it hosted by someone else, try #sourcehut.Jun 05 17:52
schestowitzInteresting to note, you can set multiple push URLs for a single remote in git. This allows you switch to another primary location for your git repos, and keep the old locations updated whenever you push. You won't have to fear users who are used to the old locations being lost, and you can reflect where the main repo is in your README.Jun 05 17:52
schestowitz"Jun 05 17:52
schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9vkd1rVU2qIp33YtdoJun 05 17:53
schestowitz"I too would love to see #rakulang development shift to a more open platform, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it, sadly."Jun 05 17:53
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schestowitz Roy and TechrightsJun 05 23:51
schestowitz> It’s a bit premature, but it would be nice to see 6 months stats for my weblog at the beginning of July.Jun 05 23:51
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:51
schestowitz> After the February and March height of the Coronavirus devastation, things are gradually returning to normal, yet, much faster than I expected.Jun 05 23:51
schestowitz> There is much optimism about a preventive anti-body vaccine being produced by the end of the year; truthfully,  and logically,  I expected much worse to happen worldwide. I am very surprised and happy that was avoided by people wearing masks and distancing and just plain awareness, and having so much information from the media helped.Jun 05 23:51
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:51
schestowitz> It seems there is more resiliency built into governments and people and science compared to previous generations.Jun 05 23:51
schestowitzI will look into the stats.Jun 05 23:51
schestowitzThis gives me a change to do another backup of the whole site, just in case.Jun 05 23:51
schestowitzHere is the outline as PDF.Jun 05 23:51
schestowitzRe: Ami Horowitz asks Minneapolis protesters if they support violenceJun 05 23:51
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:51
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schestowitz>> if we can at least stop MORE migrations to GH, then good...Jun 05 23:55
schestowitz> sure, thats true-- but gravity (or how much things SUCK) is a function of mass, and gnu-hub may have have already reached the amazon-like point where its merely a chain reaction from here.Jun 05 23:55
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:55
schestowitz> thats what the evidence points towards. when i said gnu is done, i wasnt joking. once youve jumped off the empire state building, youre extremely unlikely to find any brakes midway down. this metaphor will be seen as unfair, but i dont think its inaccurate.Jun 05 23:55
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:55
schestowitz> with that said, i think the whole thing is interesting enough to get more data (finer accuracy) on, and theres always a snowballs chance that someone will get out there with a giant trampoline. but be aware of the odds-- theyre fucking tiny.Jun 05 23:55
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:55
schestowitz> when i said, quite a while ago in fact, that the future of free software is salvage and rebuilding-- i wasnt joking about that either. the ecosystem is devastated-- cratered. there will be clearing of enormous swaths of RUBBLE long before anything is actually rebuilt. it can be done. it wont be pretty. and it wont likely be avoided. for the most part these are people who wont do a thing until everyone is saying "what the hell happenedJun 05 23:55
schestowitz" rms isnt using his authority, and they arent thinking for themselves. ive actually talked to a couple people who already seemed to understand the problem (that is, prior to talking to them) and they have the same problem, really. they think if you just make a nice argument and provide good list of alternatives-- how many of those already exist????? theyre stuck on that step-- and theyll stay there until the whole thing collapses.Jun 05 23:55
schestowitz> a direct way of measuring the age of a tree is to record its birth and subtract it from the present date. since this is impractical, we tend to measure the age of trees indirectly, for instance by taking a sample and counting the rings that are formed as it grows.Jun 05 23:56
schestowitz> an indirect way of measuring freedom is by looking at the measures used to evaluate and protect it.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> lots of people claim to care about your freedom, but then you have organisations like reporters sans frontières crop up to talk about specifics. these organisations do have their own biases and limitations, but they often produce useful data about the worst censorship and oppression we know about.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> people creating propaganda (like china, or feneas.org) tend to spell out freedom in positive absolutes-- idiots still claim there is “no censorship” on diaspora. this is laughably false.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> people who care about freedom dont say there is “no censorship”-- they rate censorship in relative terms. mastodon is worse than diaspora, facebook is worse than mastodon in certain ways. twitter, mastodon and facebook compete on levels of censorship-- i know people from each one who are good people who were censored and lied to. it deserves to be called propaganda when its built on lies. “no censorship” is propaganda. itsJun 05 23:57
schestowitzbullshit. and the people promoting the fediverse that way are liars, not activists.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> a great comparison is tor-- tor does seem to care about privacy. there are some reasons to be sceptical of tor, but tor (as a relevant example) claims to care about privacy-- and they proceeds to directly warn you of several things it does NOT do to protect you.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> tor is not a one-stop privacy solution. it is a powerful tool that provides a beginning. if they said “tor provides complete privacy” that would be propaganda, it would be bullshit. the fact that theyre more honest than that may not prove anything, but it provides evidence that they care.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> about an hour agoJun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>>     no censorship.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> 21 minutes agoJun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>>     Keeping a minimum of control is certainly a form of censorshipJun 05 23:57
schestowitz> this isnt a nitpick. when people complain about censorship you say there isnt any-- then you go on to talk about what forms of censorship do and should exist.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> if people were up front about what kinds of censorship exist, they would still get complaints but at least they would not be lying to everybody all the time. they could call you censors, but they couldnt say you were bullshitting everyone. when people complained about things not working, nobody would be able to say “yes it does” in the same context. they would only be able to say “well it doesnt work the way people want-- but itJun 05 23:57
schestowitzdoes work the say we think it should.”Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> it took more than 30 minutes to get you to be more honest.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz> multiply that by everyone doing what youre doing, and thats why im disgusted with all of you.Jun 05 23:57
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>> Well, you’ re nitpicking, you know exactly what I mean.Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz> its [not] nitpicking if theres a significant disparity between what you said at first and what you said later.Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz> i understand if you think the disparity is not significant (that would be nitpicking, by definition) but i think the disparity speaks for itself. youre trying to make it insignificant-- i think it fails.Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>> you know exactly what I mean.Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz> i think perhaps you dont know exactly what you mean. and thats the truth.Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>                <https://diasporapod.no/people/9e0dccf053360138d42c08002785b8a8>-----Jun 05 23:58
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schestowitz>        <https://diasporapod.no/posts/5441081#3afac00089030138420908002785b8a8>                     <https://diasporapod.no/posts/7ab8ec8088e10138a23c00163e3b85e3#3afac00089030138420908002785b8a8>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>> if you only pick one part and only understand half of what I say, it’s useless.Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>Jun 05 23:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diasporapod.no | Different pods, different results?Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-diasporapod.no | Different pods, different results?Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz> agreed, but i dont think i did that.Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>> It doesn’t make any sense to seek a discussion with an extremistJun 05 23:58
schestowitz>>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz> ah yes, that one is always cute. while trump labels antifa a terrorist group, you say people calling you a liar for pretending theres no censorship are “extremists.” fuck you, like i said before. except im saying it again-- fuck you, really!Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:58
schestowitz> Although their argument is bullshit, they have finally given me the impression that they are sincere (if wrong) and are tired of fighting. If so, I don't really want to stay and just beat the shit out of them. This may sound like bravado if taken the wrong way, but it's really nothing of the sort. Nobody won. Who knows if anybody ever will?Jun 05 23:59
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:59
schestowitz> Regarding: http://techrights.org/2020/06/04/tired-of-rms-winning/Jun 05 23:59
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:59
schestowitz> Please do note *on the blog* if you will, that Jeff Law was (is) part this (ongoing) coup:Jun 05 23:59
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:59
schestowitz> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/Jun 05 23:59
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Red Hat/IBM Got ‘Tired’ of RMS. Is It Getting ‘Tired’ of GPL/Copyleft Too? | TechrightsJun 05 23:59
schestowitz>Jun 05 23:59
schestowitzOh, wowJun 05 23:59
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-guix.gnu.org | Joint statement on the GNU Project — 2019 — Blog — GNU GuixJun 05 23:59

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