●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 06, 2022 ●● ● Feb 06 [00:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:40] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techbytes [00:51] schestowitz > May I ask you your advice about Linux ? A couple of years ago, I decided [00:52] schestowitz > to completely abandon the MS OS because it feels, like (did you say it [00:52] schestowitz > ?), like a plate of spaghettis (or something similar because I love [00:52] schestowitz > spaghettis). [00:52] schestowitz Some people call that "spaghetti code" (I'm sure you can appreciate the metaphor) which is too tough to maintain and even enhance without breaking all sorts of things. Even accidentally. [00:52] schestowitz > The MS OS was getting on my nerves for plenty of reasons: [00:52] schestowitz > Awful boot up and shutdown times. Uncontrolled updates. Impossible to [00:52] schestowitz > transfer a boot driver to another system in case of an hardware failure. [00:52] schestowitz > User unfriendliness, etc.... [00:52] schestowitz Yes, I understand. [00:52] schestowitz > There is still one program I miss in the Linux environment: a simple [00:52] schestowitz > email client. I had on the MS OS a nearly experimental one : M2 from [00:52] schestowitz > Opera. Simple, small, user friendly. [00:52] schestowitz A lot of people foolishly turn to "webmail". But it's not really mail and messages become "web pages" (HTML). [00:52] schestowitz I've used Thunderbird since 2003, I think. On KDE there's kmail, but I would not call it easy (I used it for years). [00:52] schestowitz > Of course Linux offers many client starting with Thunderbird. IMHO [00:52] schestowitz > Thunderbird is another spaghetti programming with a peanut sauce on the [00:52] schestowitz > top. I mean difficult to digest. It lacks the simplicity of M2. I have [00:52] schestowitz > tried Bluemail, it has a legible interface but it isn't FOSS. Plain text [00:52] schestowitz > clients are not for everyone... [00:52] schestowitz Correct. They're also slower to use for some tasks or use cases. I need to better understand what you find bad in Thunderbird. [00:52] schestowitz > When I offer to my friends or members of my family to upgrade to Linux, [00:52] schestowitz > I'd like to offer simplicity in the first instance. A computer doesn't [00:52] schestowitz > have to turn you into a slave (I am aware the word is banned). The [00:52] schestowitz > computer is suppose to make your life easier. [00:52] schestowitz Things used to be like that, but users became "product"; new business model. [00:52] schestowitz > Therefore, the question: are you aware of an email client that would [00:52] schestowitz > neet my expectations? [00:52] schestowitz You can try a bunch of other well known mail clients for Linux, but Thunderbird isn't too bad, maybe you just need to get used to it. It also supports PGP encryption out of the box now. [00:54] schestowitz Hi Fla, [00:54] schestowitz What's the latest progress on JD (if any)? [00:54] schestowitz Kind regards, ● Feb 06 [01:34] *dangerous (~disco7026@joseon-nah.hj4.2crph1.IP) has joined #techbytes [01:34] *dangerous (~disco7026@joseon-nah.hj4.2crph1.IP) has left #techbytes [01:43] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes ● Feb 06 [06:19] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 06 [07:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [07:10] *psydroid4 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techbytes [07:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[11:41] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:42] schestowitz "Dear Roy, [11:42] schestowitz I sincerely apologise for all tipos, errors and incomplete sentences in my last email. I am tipping on a tablet on the one side, and I feel very upset by the situation both in and outside the EPO. [11:43] schestowitz Now back to the EPO. I feel that many of us, not just employees of the EPO, need truth and transparency. I am very optimistic at one thing: the public will be aware of the scandals in the EPO, many of my colleagues have retired with a "big file" containing confidential documents , a kind of insurance against bullying from the office. At the end, truth will emerge. [11:43] schestowitz Have a nice weekend." ● Feb 06 [12:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@asrpphbur8fa4.irc) has joined #techbytes [12:44] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:45] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 06 [13:02] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:12] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 06 [14:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:48] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 06 [16:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes [16:54] *dangerous (~disco7026@joseon-nah.hj4.2crph1.IP) has joined #techbytes [16:55] *dangerous (~disco7026@joseon-nah.hj4.2crph1.IP) has left #techbytes ● Feb 06 [17:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:12] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes [17:26] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:36] schestowitz https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1490305217488998402 [17:36] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz There is more in Stjerna's book. On my way to buy it... [17:36] schestowitz Air Commodore Rooker (@JMRooker): "Well they have to enforce their burka ban somehow. Can't have a woman wearing what she chooses in the city of light now, can we? What would the rest of the world think?" | nitter https://nitter.eu/JMRooker/status/1490285593775034368 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/06/#latest [17:36] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nitter.eu | Air Commodore Rooker (@JMRooker): "Well they have to enforce their burka ban somehow. Can't have a woman wearing what she chooses in the city of light now, can we? What would the rest of the world think?" | nitter [17:36] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:37] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Jahrtt/status/1490178562460114944 [17:37] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Jahrtt: @schestowitz Why wont you discuss the Arizona election? [17:40] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/general-linux-open-source/1306106-parallel-x86_64-cpu-bringup-linux-patches-revised-for-quicker-boot-times/page2#post1307027 [17:40] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.phoronix.com | Parallel x86_64 CPU Bringup Linux Patches Revised For Quicker Boot Times - Phoronix Forums [17:40] schestowitz " [17:40] schestowitz Originally posted by schestowitz View Post [17:40] schestowitz Sorry about the latter message, posted in the wrong thread by accident, but I still need a reply to my first query. I've linked to Phoronix literally tens of thousands of times and defended it a lot from its critics. I need to see the AMD contract by which this transaction was done, dated too (to avoid it being revised in a face-saving exercise). [17:40] schestowitz Wow, that's a lot. [17:40] schestowitz First, what's your point and why do you feel he owes you some sort of answer? [17:40] schestowitz Second, for benchmarking of different EPYC processors, he needs to have the different CPU models to swap into his server. So, he's going to have more than 2 on-hand. [17:40] schestowitz Third, you don't know if he owns them, or if they're on loan, etc. [17:40] schestowitz Fourth, you seem to presume it's EPYCs all the way down, but it could be his entire CPU collection, for all we know. [17:40] schestowitz Finally, if you want a response from Michael, your best bet is to tag him in your post. It's no guarantee, but he's unlikely to see the message otherwise. I don't know why you seem to think he personally reads & approves all forum posts, but he definitely doesn't. [17:40] schestowitz " [17:40] schestowitz " [17:40] schestowitz Originally posted by Espionage724 View Post [17:40] schestowitz I know this is the wrong thread, but I'm curious, does that only affect the Windows IoT OS for that package? [17:40] schestowitz I think it happened when Microsoft offered VS Code on the Pi. At least, that's what I seem to recall somebody stating, the last time this came up. [17:40] schestowitz " ● Feb 06 [19:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tnxugezmmi87e.irc) has joined #techbytes [19:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:49] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 06 [20:09] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes [20:10] *dangerous (~disco7026@joseon-nah.hj4.2crph1.IP) has joined #techbytes [20:11] *dangerous (~disco7026@joseon-nah.hj4.2crph1.IP) has left #techbytes ● Feb 06 [21:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jvt9tzvngy35u.irc) has joined #techbytes [21:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [21:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Feb 06 [22:17] schestowitz > Hi Roy, [22:17] schestowitz > [22:17] schestowitz > Here's a piece I wrote exclusively for Cheapskate's Guide [22:17] schestowitz > Maybe you'd like to comment/post a link or something. [22:17] schestowitz > [22:17] schestowitz > Hope you're really well, I'm back teaching at the moment so have a [22:17] schestowitz > little less time but will keep working on that resilience mini-series [22:17] schestowitz > for Techrights/Tuxmachine [22:17] schestowitz > [22:17] schestowitz > https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/uncharitable.html [22:17] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-cheapskatesguide.org | Designing devices for long-term care and reuse [22:17] schestowitz Thanks, I shall link to this later tonight in Techrights and Tuxmachines. [22:18] schestowitz > A new piece on Cheapskates Guide [22:18] schestowitz > [22:18] schestowitz > https://cheapskatesguide.org/articles/uncharitable.html [22:18] schestowitz > [22:18] schestowitz > good wishes fellas, ● Feb 06 [23:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [23:04] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:17] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:25] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techbytes [23:54] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer)