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| schestowitz | Re: TM needed restart | Mar 06 01:21 |
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| schestowitz | > TM did not respond to either HTTP or SSH. | Mar 06 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Thank you. | Mar 06 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Thanks very much! | Mar 06 01:21 |
| schestowitz | I noticed it and logged in while you were already on the server repairing it. | Mar 06 01:21 |
| schestowitz | It's good to know you were really alert even at this time of night. | Mar 06 01:21 |
| schestowitz | BTW, still no word from Seattle Police. | Mar 06 01:21 |
| schestowitz | This might become a police scandal as much as a Gates scandal. | Mar 06 01:21 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583421662055#c7451180293499479746 | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | I hate to be a pessimist but I think the next EQE will be held in March 2021. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Replies | Mar 06 04:23 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 04:23 | |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 13:50:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | That's so crazy. Its going to massively impact candidates personal and professional lives. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | I can only feel for this year. Through no fault of their own. Can CIPA or EPO do something. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Doubling the number of candidates in 1 year is going to also be impossible to cope with. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | HalcyonThursday, 5 March 2020 at 13:59:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure I agree that it would be "totally unacceptable to go ahead without Italy being involved", sure it's not great for those in Italy, but it would mean many others could still continue. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | As to whether there's a difference in difficulty between the paper and the back-up paper, I don't see how that is any different to a difference in difficulty between the papers of different years. So long as they're each marked and moderated independently of one another, what does it matter if there's a difference in difficulty? | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Gilman GrundyThursday, 5 March 2020 at 14:25:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | I find myself agreeing somewhat with Halcyon. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | The situation is similar to the Italian exam centre burning down on the day of the exam - in that situation surely the exams would just go ahead everywhere but Italy? | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 15:21:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | OK, that's fair. It was a bit of a sweeping statement. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Still, I have a hard time accepting that only the Italian part of the exam be cancelled. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 13:54:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | I think rescheduling is highly unlikely. No exams are likely to take place in the next 3 months. June - Italians have their national exams. July/Aug - everyone (in the EPO) on holiday. September is a potential but as previously mentioned in the comments organising the EQEs are done at least a year in advance. October - UK exams. And you then start getting too close to the Feb 2021 exams (eg results available in time for resitters to | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | reapply for 2021 and revise etc). Plus: Regulation on the European qualifying examination for professional representatives | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Article 1 | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | European qualifying examination | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | (2) The examination shall normally be held once a year. The period between two examinations shall not exceed twenty-five months. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Replies | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Gilman GrundyThursday, 5 March 2020 at 14:05:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | They have to be capable to holding substitute exams with less than a year's preparation. There was always the possibility of something like an exam hall burning down or something like that occurring. Similarly clashes with national exams can be compensated for by e.g., moving the national exams to November/early December. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 14:20:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | The main reason appears to be that the EPO aren't allowing their staff to travel to exam centres. And the rules of the EQE say that EPO staff have to be present. | Mar 06 04:23 |
| schestowitz | But it shouldn't be that difficult to make an exception to that rule, provided that suitable local invigilators can take responsibility. However, that needs to be arranged immediately. Surely it's better than the exam goes ahead as planned in places that it can do so, rather it doesn't go ahead at all? | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Today's statement is disproportionate and completely against current government advice. The current guidance is "business as usual" in Europe, other than in northern Italy. People's careers and so people's livelihoods are at stake here, and it will cause massive disruption to the industry as a whole. If examinees are concerned about the risks of the virus, they are not compelled to take the exam and can wait until next year - rather | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | than having everyone thrown into their boat. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | If, as appears most likely, there isn't an EQE until March 2021, then there has to be an additional EQE in autumn 2021 for people resitting. It's entirely unfair that people should have to wait an entire extra year to resit and wait more than 2 years from now to get qualified, just because they accidentally do a slightly wrong amendment in Paper B for example. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Replies | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 16:32:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | in exactly what way will it cause massive disruption to the industry as a whole? | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | not saying it's not unfortunate or frustrating but what an overstatement! There is also no automatic right to have an exam annually - i think the rules are at most 25 months apart... | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 17:15:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | No autmoatic right to an annual exam, true. But in the same way there is no automatic right to oxygen or water, but you'd (briefly) complain like hell if you weren't getting them. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 14:40:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | More evidence as to why having an approach of coursework/exam mixture is good. Relying entirely on exams as we see in this situation has too much of a large impact on everyone. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Replies | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Gilman GrundyThursday, 5 March 2020 at 15:10:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | If there was a coursework/exam mix then the exams would still not be going ahead and people would still not be able to qualify. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | If it was coursework-only then there would still be the possibility of cancelled classes and assessments. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 16:30:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | totally agree Gilman Grundy - v few would want a coursework element introduced | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 14:56:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | I can't see the main EQE being rescheduled this year. However, I think it may be possible to reschedule the pre-exam (e.g. in early September). This takes much less time to mark, so you could run it and still have time to get the marks out and give the people who passed register/revise for the 2021 EQEs. Not ideal, but at least a smaller cohort would be affected. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Replies | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 16:27:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Makes more sense to just give all those registered for the pre-exam a pass - the benefit of the pre-exam is in the preparation (which has now been done by effectively all the candidates), not in the sitting of a particular paper. There's no point in going to the massive trouble and expense of rescheduling for (only) one paper which 80-90% of sitters should pass, not if the main papers aren't rescheduled too. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | AnonymousThursday, 5 March 2020 at 17:01:00 GMT | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Can CIPA make a decision about the PEB exams in October (around July time) to avoid candidates wasting precious time preparing for the exams only for it NOT to go ahead. Of course - if the outbreak gets worse, who knows when it will end. | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 04:24 |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/03/03/uk-backs-out-of-the-unitary-patent-system-a-blow-the-end-of-it-or-just-tactics/#comments | Mar 06 04:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | UK backs out of the Unitary Patent system – a blow, the end of it, or just tactics? - Kluwer Patent Blog | Mar 06 04:47 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | Here MaxDrei: I should welcome renewed vigour, to set up an EU Patents Court. Here’s why. | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | The EPC/EPO shows the way to a world-wide roadmap for patent validity. It is an elegant compromise between continental European civil law (think China, Korea, Japan) and English law (think British Empire, USA) on patent validity. But it offers little for standardisation of what constitutes patent infringement. A pan-European Patent Court could do for patent infringement law what the EPC has done for patent validity law (especially since | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | the UK Supreme Court last year recognised the reality of “infringement by equivalent” and educated the USA how to manage that aspect). | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | Multi-national, multi-lingual Europe has much to offer the patent world, in standardisation of matters of patent law. Look, for example, at the distress in the USA, because the courts cannot get their heads around what subject matter is “eligible” for patenting , and what is not. The litmus test “abstract idea” is as far as they have got, so far, in the USA. They are not even at the foothills of a sharp test, what is patent- | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | eligible and what is not, whereas the EPO has explored the ground exhaustively. | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | In the argument between sovereign jurisdictions within the EU, in issues of patent law, Europe has much to offer the rest of the world. Come on Europe. Set up a UPC and show the rest of the world how to do patent litigation efficiently, fairly and economically. | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | REPLY | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | Arjan | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | MARCH 3, 2020 AT 11:34 PM | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | You should not forget that the EPO was created almost fifty years ago. Now a completely different, totally self-serving bunch of managers is steering it. If you knew what the boards of appeal have become since the reform, you would not believe it. Half-bred examiners running after their targets! Honestly, I do not think that nowadays Europe could make something worthwhile in the field of infringement. Look at the strange construction | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | known as the UPC. Four places of venue, plus x national branches, everybody cooking their little national stew. People who act as technical judges in the morning and as barristers in the afternoon. Costs that will bring any SME to its knees before long. I sincerely hope that this awful project is behind us. No, these are no good times for building anything solid in Europe or elsewhere. It may be that we have to wait until after the next | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | big war or economy breakdown. Perhaps then some reason and decency will have come back. | Mar 06 04:47 |
| schestowitz | REPLY | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Concerned observer | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | MARCH 4, 2020 AT 11:23 AM | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Arjan, I appreciate that you are not impressed by the effects of the recent reforms at the Boards of Appeal on the attitude and approach of certain Board members. But do you believe that those effects are such that the patent community in Europe should worry about the performance (and, more importantly, the independence) of the Boards of Appeal? | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | REPLY | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Attentive Observer | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | MARCH 4, 2020 AT 1:04 AM | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | In less than a week, we have now the third publication about the fate of the UPC on Kluwer blog. And it gets worse from one paper to the next. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | That lawyers, especially those having participated in the drafting of the Rules of Procedure of the UPC, would not like to see the UPC dying is understandable. For any lawyer the perspective of claiming fees not just linked to a national litigation, but to supranational litigation is mouth-watering. It is not to be expected that they will give up the UPC lightly. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | When Mr Pors observes that the UPC “will still cover all the major EU member states and will, therefore, have considerable added value compared to national litigation” he is thinking of the added value for his purse and of nothing else. It is revealing that there is now question of major and minor EU member states. It confirms that the UPC is for major states and major companies acting in those major states, and certainly not for | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | SMEs. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | It is at least clear that the withdrawal of UK will “require modification of the current UPC Agreement” but to “hope that this will not be taken as a pretext to renegotiate the entire system” is more wishful thinking than taking into account the reality of politics. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Even if the only amendment of the UPCA relates to deleting London and its replacement by any other city, already mentioned in it or any new one, it means that “a new round of ratifications by Member States is necessary”. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | That French lawyers want the Central Division to be located completely in Paris is understandable, and seems logical. The choice is either Paris or Munich, and the Central Division should not distributed over a plurality of locations. As said, opening Pandora’s Box is full of danger. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | It is nice for EPLIT to remain “committed to support the establishment of a pan-European court for adjudicating patent disputes. Ideally, such court would have jurisdiction not only for EU states but also for other European countries, including the UK.”, but this means revival of EPLA, and we all know that this in not on. Why come up with such a proposal? | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | The question is: do we really need a pan-European court for adjudicating patent disputes in view of the rather limited number of true supranational litigations? Money should be spent on other projects which could help European people at large and not to the benefit of a small caste of lawyers. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Hoping that the UK might change its position and merely uses the UPC as bargaining tool is like a person on the verge of drowning clutching to even the smallest piece allowing to stay afloat. It is indeed nothing more than wishful thinking. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | We have now heard for a few years that the decision of the FCC is expected in the next few months, but it sounds like a scratched record, as we are still waiting. There is no certainty that the decision will be the one hoped by the proponents of the UPC, as the questions raised by Mr Stjerna cannot be dismissed easily. There is more at stake than just the necessary quorum in the German Parliament. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | The Tibetan prayer mill of the UPC supporters (and of their purse) might still be turning for a while, but I have reasonable doubts that their prayers will be answered one day. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | I could agree with Max Drei on the usefulness of standardisation of what constitutes patent infringement. But then the UPC should be really covering more than just some of the member states of the EU and at least all the EU member states should participate. It is however manifest that non EU member states cannot participate in view of the very clear Opinion C 1/09. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | As far as validity is concerned, there is a possible overlap between the UPC and the Boards of Appeal of the EPC, and no mechanism has been devised to avoid a clash of case law in matters of validity. In spite of what I have heard from esteemed people like Sir Justice Jacob, the UPC is not there to become the leading court in Europe as it does not even cover all the EU member states. And now a country important in the domain of IP has | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | even left the boat. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Bifurcation between validity and infringement could be a solution in order to avoid a clash of case law on validity, but then the independence of the UPC and of the Boards of Appeal should be guaranteed and a revision instance on matters of substance should be established in both systems. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | These are two fundamental drawbacks of both systems, and I am far from convinced that in a lot of member states of the EU and of the UPC such a situation is in conformity with the respective constitutions. . | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Techrights: FINGERS OFF!!! | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | REPLY | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Crapper | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | MARCH 4, 2020 AT 5:33 PM | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | it is not just tactics. Dominic Cummings runs the British Government and dreams of the return of the British Empire. | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 04:48 |
| schestowitz | >>> TM did not respond to either HTTP or SSH. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> Thank you. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> Thanks very much! | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> I noticed it and logged in while you were already on the server | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> repairing it. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> It's good to know you were really alert even at this time of night. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | > No problem. It's also good that the lock file for the repair script | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | > worked as needed. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> BTW, still no word from Seattle Police. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | >> This might become a police scandal as much as a Gates scandal. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | > Definitely, and their interference apparently on behalf of Gates should | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | > not be missed, it is also kind of a separate thread. So one set of | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | > scandals is becoming two sets. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | Yes, give them another week... | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | They did, in the past, miss their own deadlines by a few days. | Mar 06 05:55 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9sj2U9LeXgwD0QymLg | Mar 06 09:12 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Mar 06 09:12 | |
| schestowitz | " this Schestowitz is broken, bring a new one!" | Mar 06 09:12 |
| schestowitz | I noticed right after posting this, it doesn't handle it properly unless I switch to html | Mar 06 09:12 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/thesimpsonist/status/1235822864214847490 | Mar 06 10:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@thesimpsonist: We're with you, Ady! #NotMeUs https://t.co/MFz8jXtMOS | Mar 06 10:53 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: Following Warren Exit, Dying Medicare for All Activist Ady Barkan Says, "I'm All In" for Bernie #Sanders https://t.co/pnIFOXone5 | Mar 06 10:53 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/man-plan | Mar 06 16:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.iam-media.com | Exclusive to IAM, the EPO president's first in-depth interview since getting the job | IAM | Mar 06 16:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1235951785858289666 | Mar 06 16:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: EPO Corruption Has Killed in Germany and the Netherlands Far More Than Coronavirus (Covid-19) Did https://t.co/AdkmAGby52 #epo #COVID19 | Mar 06 16:07 | |
| schestowitz | "EPO Corruption Has Killed in Germany and the Netherlands Far More Than Coronavirus (Covid-19) Did http://techrights.org/2020/03/06/coronavirus-helps-epo-deflection/ … #epo #COVID19" | Mar 06 16:07 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | EPO Corruption Has Killed in Germany and the Netherlands Far More Than Coronavirus (Covid-19) Did | Techrights | Mar 06 16:07 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1235939330172084226 | Mar 06 16:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: After the Death of the UPC the Next Casualty is the Credibility of Media That Promotes It #deception #UPC… https://t.co/UKfZikvLKf | Mar 06 16:13 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: After the Death of the UPC the Next Casualty is the Credibility of Media That Promotes It #deception #UPC… https://t.co/UKfZikvLKf | Mar 06 16:13 | |
| schestowitz | "After the Death of the UPC the Next Casualty is the Credibility of Media That Promotes It #deception #UPC #UnitaryPatent #UnifiedPatentCourt #patents #Europe" | Mar 06 16:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1235951785858289666 | Mar 06 16:13 |
| schestowitz | "EPO Corruption Has Killed in Germany and the Netherlands Far More Than Coronavirus (Covid-19) Did http://techrights.org/2020/03/06/coronavirus-helps-epo-deflection/ … #epo #COVID19" | Mar 06 16:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1235938944983994368 | Mar 06 16:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: EPO Corruption Has Killed in Germany and the Netherlands Far More Than Coronavirus (Covid-19) Did #deception… https://t.co/qxOO4tBLr0 | Mar 06 16:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: EPO Corruption Has Killed in Germany and the Netherlands Far More Than Coronavirus (Covid-19) Did #deception… https://t.co/qxOO4tBLr0 | Mar 06 16:14 | |
| schestowitz | "EPO Corruption Has Killed in Germany and the Netherlands Far More Than Coronavirus (Covid-19) Did #deception #patents #Europe http://techrights.org/2020/03/06/coronavirus-helps" | Mar 06 16:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1235938712153985024 | Mar 06 16:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: EPO Presflash 002: Diversity and Inclusion (Humour) #humour #patents #Europe https://t.co/iNeC6tISBZ | Mar 06 16:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | EPO Presflash 002: Diversity and Inclusion (Humour) | Techrights | Mar 06 16:14 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583492980415#c919652454631929503 | Mar 06 16:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | ""It's entirely unfair that people should have to wait an entire extra year to resit and wait more than 2 years from now to get qualified" There is a one year extra delay for everybody. Those who would have failed, for example for a "slightly wrong amendment in paper B", would not qualify until after 2021 anyway. So they would already be waiting one year to qualify. There isn't an extra two year delay for those who would have failed | Mar 06 16:32 |
| schestowitz | this year's exams." | Mar 06 16:32 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/is-broad-institute-planning-last-ditch.html?showComment=1583491191186#c7127377846765625828 | Mar 06 16:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:32 |
| schestowitz | A brief comment on the alleged "pressure to resolve the dispute quickly". The time limit for a petition for review is NOT 2 months from the BoA decision. It is 2 months from NOTIFICATION of the decision. | Mar 06 16:32 |
| schestowitz | This is highly relevant because the BoA decision will be notified only together with its reasons, and usually this takes place a few months after the decision has been pronounced at oral proceedings. The T844/18 decision has not been notified yet (at least, there is nothing yet in the register). Most likely, the deadline for the petition for review will be in summer/fall 2020. | Mar 06 16:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:32 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Is the Broad Institute planning a last-ditch attempt to save their CRISPR patent? - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583486179058#c6756123073648813435 | Mar 06 16:33 |
| schestowitz | "A slightly related question; Has there been any sign of the EPO cancelling hearings? I have an appeal hearing in July and I am wondering if it will be postponed." | Mar 06 16:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:33 | |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/03/05/news-from-and-about-eponia/#comments | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | The flier plays with buzzwords the president uses in his internal communiqués. | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | All the while while he drains EUIPO’s management, by hiring Alicante management staff. | Mar 06 16:37 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | News from and about Eponia - Kluwer Patent Blog | Mar 06 16:37 | |
| schestowitz | It’s a referral to an internal trade union publication, listing newly created gigh level management posts, and the person filling the post. | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | With the amount of competence the EPO president has hired (if I were to believe his communiqués), EPO’s management is so competent, that external consultants were needed to tell them what to do as managers… | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | I wonder where the fault lies? With the external consultants who proposed the hiring of these highly competent people, or the hired managers who are unable to do what they’ve been hired for and consult consultants who have no idea about inner workings of international organisations and the rules they are bound to? | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Either way, the office has more money than it knows what to do with it, but the consultants have ideas… Which would require expensive follow-up contracts of course… | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | PS: ask around in Alicante what the “brain drain” causes there, as EU-rules make it difficult for EUIPO to hire replacements (as the team of managers has the right to return for a few years). | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | REPLY | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Anon | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | MARCH 6, 2020 AT 8:05 AM | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | >> Maybe some readers can enlighten me about what facts were behind this delicious flier. | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/03/29/campinos-nepotism-entryism/ | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | REPLY | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Concerned observer | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | MARCH 6, 2020 AT 11:59 AM | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Thorsten, perhaps you might wish to consider the potential effects of the Memorandum of Understanding that has been concluded between the EPO and its Administrative Council? | Mar 06 16:37 |
| schestowitz | https://www.epo.org/about-us/governance/communiques.html | Mar 06 16:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Tall Tales From the Land of EPOnia: Indications of High-Level Club Med/EUIPO “Entryism” | Techrights | Mar 06 16:38 | |
| schestowitz | It now seems that the Office will hire employees to staff the AC’s “Secretariat”, which Secretariat will be supported by AND located in the EPO’s directorate general in charge of legal and international affairs. | Mar 06 16:38 |
| schestowitz | As a nod towards the importance of maintaining the independence of the Boards of Appeal, the Secretariat will only be subject to instructions by the Chair of the AC (or the Chair of its subsidiary body, the BoAC) for matters concerning, for example, the (re-)appointment or disciplining of Members of the Boards of Appeal. | Mar 06 16:38 |
| schestowitz | However, this rather begs the question of why it is that the Secretariat can be subject to instructions from other individuals (which will presumably include the President of the EPO) for matters that do not relate to the Boards of Appeal. In other words, it seems that, on most matters, the Secretariat (which will at least be responsible for providing legal advice to the AC) can be subject to instructions from the very body that the AC | Mar 06 16:38 |
| schestowitz | is supposed to be supervising. | Mar 06 16:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.epo.org | EPO - Communiqués | Mar 06 16:38 | |
| schestowitz | I may be missing something, but this arrangement hardly serves to improve the perception of independence of the AC. Further, with regard to the independence of the Boards of Appeal, what is the point of having “safeguards” regarding instructions to the Secretariat if it is perceived that the AC itself is not adequately independent? | Mar 06 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Is Karlsruhe watching? | Mar 06 16:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:38 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583485349931#c4475044412417233923 | Mar 06 16:38 |
| schestowitz | "If EQE exams are rescheduled to after September time - I think CIPA would need to cancel the PEB exams in October. It is a nightmare for everyone involved but some attorneys are examiners for both EQE and PEB and not to mention candidates don't have time to prepare for both exams. Some firms will push their candidates to take both no matter what which is not sensible. " | Mar 06 16:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583486711688#c1715158070092555148 | Mar 06 16:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:40 |
| schestowitz | It's off. CIPA will not make them change their minds. It has been handled poorly but it is done now. | Mar 06 16:40 |
| schestowitz | There's a post in this thread drawing an analogy to an exam centre burning down. It's an interesting comparison, but the difference here is that one exam centre has burned down (Italy) and fires have already started in the others. | Mar 06 16:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:40 | |
| schestowitz | Clearly there was no contingency plan in place, other than the back-up paper. | Mar 06 16:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:40 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583490122486#c9159119584777573916 | Mar 06 16:44 |
| schestowitz | "The EQE format is fine as it is. There's no need for coursework. Furthermore, the point seems irrelevant here, since the exams would still be held and candidates would still need to prepare for them." | Mar 06 16:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:44 | |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583485601297#c6657768579248715583 | Mar 06 16:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:44 |
| schestowitz | This year’s European Qualifying Examinations have been cancelled by the Supervisory Board of the EQE. We expect no change to that. | Mar 06 16:44 |
| schestowitz | Over the past 24 hours we have made representations to the Supervisory Board on behalf of our members, without success. | Mar 06 16:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | We will now focus on achieving clarity and certainty on plans for rescheduling the EQE and will communicate developments to our members as they emerge. | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Thank you for trying CIPA. | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | CIPA is loathed at the moment, but not for its corrupt UPC actions | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | This year’s European Qualifying Examinations have been cancelled by the Supervisory Board of the EQE. We expect no change to that. | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Over the past 24 hours we have made representations to the Supervisory Board on behalf of our members, without success. | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | We will now focus on achieving clarity and certainty on plans for rescheduling the EQE and will communicate developments to our members as they emerge. | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | Thank you for trying CIPA. | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583485601297#c6657768579248715583 | Mar 06 16:45 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583471209841#c7446111921322257771 | Mar 06 16:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:47 |
| schestowitz | We need a definite answer, is it on or off? Look at INTA. People need time to get refunds and whatnot. | Mar 06 16:47 |
| schestowitz | I am in two minds about it proceeding though. Just reading up on the WHO guidelines which state that there should be a 1m separation from people who show symptoms but there are reports of people may not show symptoms even if they are infected or in the far east, people who have symptoms that are so mild that they are not showing it outright. Us youngsters will probably recover easy but it's the spreading to the older folks which is the | Mar 06 16:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:47 | |
| schestowitz | worrying part. And not to mention the possible after-effects of the disease. Reports that SARS gave honeycomb lungs etc etc. | Mar 06 16:47 |
| schestowitz | Having said that, if UK is not having that many cases, don't see why CIPA can't push ahead. | Mar 06 16:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 06 16:47 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/03/breaking-eqe-and-pre-eqe-postponed.html?showComment=1583477786144#c3407862289704664522 | Mar 06 16:48 |
| schestowitz | "to continue revising now?! if so - give yourself a break, no point revising now for an exam 6 or 12 months down the line! if you're talking about revising again in the future, then it's a tricky one but there's probably papers you won't remember so well" | Mar 06 16:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKat | Mar 06 16:48 | |
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