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schestowitz>> Some deadlines for CentOS are coming up rather quickly:Sep 08 17:55
schestowitz>>Sep 08 17:56
schestowitz>> https://wiki.centos.org/About/ProductSep 08 17:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.centos.org | About/Product - CentOS WikiSep 08 17:56
schestowitz>>Sep 08 17:56
schestowitz>> TM is on CentOS 6 - Q2 2020 (hard)Sep 08 17:56
schestowitz>> TR is on CentOS 7 - Q4 2020 (soft) / Q2 2024 (hard)Sep 08 17:56
schestowitz>>Sep 08 17:56
schestowitz>> There is still quite a bit of time to plan, but if there is a goodSep 08 17:56
schestowitz>> opportunity to migrate to CentOS 8 or Devuan 2 during the next sixSep 08 17:56
schestowitz>> months, I would recommend making the move.>> PS.  Either way it means a fresh installation and migrating Drupal,Sep 08 17:56
schestowitz> WordPress, and the Wiki to the new system.  I guess that would meanSep 08 17:56
schestowitz> spinning up a third VM temporarily somehow.Sep 08 17:56
schestowitzWe're not even running patched versions of these, so the deadlines aren't our biggest problem.Sep 08 17:56
schestowitz>>> I'm wondering if a category for National Infrastructure might be neededSep 08 17:59
schestowitz>>> by the end of the year.  If there are a lot more articles that could goSep 08 17:59
schestowitz>>> under that heading then maybe it should be added.Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz>> Sounds reasonableSep 08 17:59
schestowitz>>Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz>> Before syncing templates, let's think of other ones to addSep 08 17:59
schestowitz>>Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz>> I need one for SUSE/OpenSUSESep 08 17:59
schestowitz>>Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz>> I also think Linux Foundation doesn't belong under kernel anymore; itSep 08 17:59
schestowitz>> rarely does any news about Linux itself.Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz> Indeed.  It has stopped doing coverage of anything Open Source at all.Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz>Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz> Should it go under politics?  That would probably be a bit to snarky though.Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz>Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz>> Other refactoring might help, but would take time to get accustomed to.Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz> No hurry.  I'll make a text file on TR: ~/categories-2019-09.txtSep 08 17:59
schestowitz> We can add stuff there and then make some changes in a few weeks or so.Sep 08 17:59
schestowitzAs long as we do not editor concurrently.Sep 08 17:59
schestowitzNow that empty categories vanish by script it would not have a time overheard if we add loads of them.Sep 08 17:59
schestowitz(Remember I use to purge them all manually for years)Sep 08 17:59
schestowitzadd SUSE/OpenSUSESep 08 18:02
schestowitzmove Linux Foundation, maybe under OSSSep 08 18:02
schestowitzmerge DB+SaaS?Sep 08 18:02
schestowitzEducation under LeftoversSep 08 18:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15473848#bdef5c808c430137e59e0cc47a07853cSep 08 19:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Zero new stories this morning in open source dot com (now under #ibm management). This certainly is unusual; they publish every morning (EU time zones).Sep 08 19:11
schestowitz'"Sep 08 19:11
schestowitzSep 08 19:11
schestowitzlinux.com → bought by microsoft (close enough) no real linux news opensource.com → bought by ibm (literally) no real open source news #hmmSep 08 19:11
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:11
schestowitzscoffing at monopolists is "offensive". You're banned from the 'community'! BANNED!Sep 08 19:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15917539#90e6af50b2da01378d9d002590d8e506Sep 08 19:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who get all upset/worked up at #gnu #linux (because of #systemd and "lack of freedom") and say things like "I'm moving to BSD" are missing the point. BSD-type licences are more #proprietarysoftware -friendly and are thus a step away from #freedomSep 08 19:12
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:12
schestowitzRunit is the solution … or try voidlinux where it is nativeSep 08 19:12
schestowitzSep 08 19:12
schestowitzAlessandro Ebersol - 2 days agoSep 08 19:12
schestowitzS6 too, OpenRC, there are lots. Just avoid systemdick. And pulseawful. Those 2 stink.Sep 08 19:12
schestowitzSep 08 19:12
schestowitzfreemedia@share.naturalnews.com - 2 days agoSep 08 19:12
schestowitzvoid is hosted /developed on microsoft serversSep 08 19:12
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:12
schestowitzLet's see what happens when some Persian devs want to help them develop...Sep 08 19:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15657298#662aee209dda0137095d7a163ef10931Sep 08 19:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People find it odd and off-putting that #RedHat is allowing Microsoft to be the foremost sponsor of its event (see above); #Microsoft is still attacking GNU/Linux in a lot of ways http://techrights.org/2019/08/10/microsoft-leads-red-hat-events/Sep 08 19:13
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:13
schestowitz“Odd and Off-putting” - to say the least.Sep 08 19:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Sometimes It Feels Like Microsoft — Not IBM — Bought Red Hat | TechrightsSep 08 19:13
schestowitz tomgrzSep 08 19:13
schestowitztomgrz - 29 days agoSep 08 19:13
schestowitzThis is a Linux crisis in the making…Sep 08 19:13
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:13
schestowitzI thought scrutiny would make it better; but they run further into Microsoft's armpits.Sep 08 19:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15920240#c8fdf750b2f4013752410cc47a07853cSep 08 19:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People don't believe #microsoft and whatever it says about #gnu #linux and #opensource and #freesw People know there's no love (that's PR), just #openwashingSep 08 19:15
schestowitz"unless they work for zdnet"Sep 08 19:15
schestowitzThen it's a job requirement (this faith). Ask SJVN...Sep 08 19:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15281999#e6a714807a1f013725700cc47a07853cSep 08 19:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: OTOH, #google does fund some #gnome development and it's a #gnu project. https://blogofkiritosan.wordpress.com/2019/06/25/a-month-full-of-learning-with-gnome-gsoc/Sep 08 19:16
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blogofkiritosan.wordpress.com | A month full of learning with Gnome-GSoC – Kirito-san's blogSep 08 19:16
schestowitzwe would be better off without gnome. gtk is the only vital part of it-- each upcoming version is worse than the previous.Sep 08 19:16
schestowitzstallman once said more or less that they have gnome, so they dont need another desktop. he also called de icaza a traitor. gnome is about as antagonistic to user freedom as a free software (really, theyre open source) project can be-- stallman should have (imo) figured out that choice bolsters the sustainability of free software.Sep 08 19:16
schestowitzgnome is designed to create lock-in. its developers hate user freedom.Sep 08 19:16
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15558294#da1e740094af0137e5920cc47a07853cSep 08 19:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One More Reason #ElementaryOS Is Ideal For New Linux Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126417 #gnu #linuxSep 08 19:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.tuxmachines.org | One More Reason Elementary OS Is Ideal For New Linux Users | Tux MachinesSep 08 19:16
schestowitz"they still need to #deletegithub as it uses #systemd"Sep 08 19:16
schestowitzStart → 05:06Sep 08 19:17
schestowitzLIVE: Roger Waters Performs 'Wish You Were Here’ in Assange’s Support in London - InvidiousSep 08 19:17
schestowitz KmanSep 08 19:17
schestowitzKman - 6 days agoSep 08 19:17
schestowitzThanks Trocatintas …Kman 👍Sep 08 19:17
schestowitz nissuac@framasphere.orgSep 08 19:17
schestowitznissuac@framasphere.org - 5 days agoSep 08 19:17
schestowitzGet it too:)! TKSSep 08 19:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15870176#fc77c5c0aff001370bbd4061862b8e7bSep 08 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One more for today's batch of links about Julian #assange and #wikileaks https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/08/31/assa-s01.html one heck of a rockstar!! #uk #freespeech #journalismSep 08 19:17
schestowitzhttps://invidio.us/watch?v=yETgwcKP1-sSep 08 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.wsws.org | Roger Waters to perform in London Monday in defense of Julian Assange - World Socialist Web SiteSep 08 19:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-invidio.us | LIVE: Roger Waters Performs 'Wish You Were Here’ in Assange's Support in London - InvidiousSep 08 19:17
schestowitzDid you see the brother's speech?Sep 08 19:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15449186#f97e05f08a020137e59e0cc47a07853cSep 08 19:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Official blog of #suse promoting #proprietarysoftware of #sap and then adds buzzwords like "HEY HI" and notorious bulldozers giant "CAT". This is no way to appeal to #freesw people, SUSE. https://www.suse.com/c/borusan-cat-may-the-machine-learning-be-with-the-service-sales/Sep 08 19:18
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:18
schestowitzhttps://ccrjustice.org/home/what-we-do/our-cases/corrie-et-al-v-caterpillarSep 08 19:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.suse.com | Borusan CAT: May the Machine Learning be with the Service SalesSep 08 19:18
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ccrjustice.org | Corrie et al. v. Caterpillar | Center for Constitutional RightsSep 08 19:18
schestowitzcaterpillars arent construction machines, theyre yellow tanks that trample unarmed civilians to death.Sep 08 19:18
schestowitzway to go, susefucks.Sep 08 19:18
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:18
schestowitzCats don't kill people. :-) People do.Sep 08 19:18
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15715846#d04b2210a3170137ada252540039b762Sep 08 19:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now you see them... #IBM made over 800 #UK jobs vanish in 2018 despite improving fortunes https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/08/15/ibm/Sep 08 19:19
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theregister.co.uk | Now you see them... IBM made over 800 UK jobs vanish in 2018 despite improving fortunes • The RegisterSep 08 19:19
schestowitza symptom of an unsustainable concept of economy - while others would hail this as efficiency - rendering people worthless… fun fact: everyone can do something be productive and have a happy life while doing it - like growing vegetables - but capitalism won’t reward it - won’t reward this.Sep 08 19:19
schestowitz SilouettESep 08 19:19
schestowitzSilouettE - 22 days agoSep 08 19:19
schestowitzaccording to economists 15% of unemployment is “good” because those people have more time now. great. side effects: catastrophic.Sep 08 19:19
schestowitz SilouettESep 08 19:20
schestowitzSilouettE - 22 days agoSep 08 19:20
schestowitzproblem: if one can afford their own land - plan A) growing vegetables failed already.Sep 08 19:20
schestowitz tomgrzSep 08 19:20
schestowitztomgrz - 22 days agoSep 08 19:20
schestowitzMuch of the best agricultural land in New England is now industrial space, strip-malls and suburbs.Sep 08 19:20
schestowitz tomgrzSep 08 19:20
schestowitztomgrz - 22 days agoSep 08 19:20
schestowitzMuch of the best industrial space lies empty.Sep 08 19:20
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:20
schestowitzsoil deteriorates as human population balloons > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnOlB93bIhoSep 08 19:20
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | How much water is in my steak?!? - YouTubeSep 08 19:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15603335#fd01cce099370137b1930cc47a07853cSep 08 19:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No links/code. Is #KubOS actually #freesw or maybe an #openwashing stunt? https://spacenews.com/kubos-and-ruag-partner-to-provide-computer-systems-for-megaconstellations/Sep 08 19:21
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> spacenews.com | Kubos and Ruag partner to provide computer systems for megaconstellations - SpaceNews.comSep 08 19:21
schestowitzvery confused here. why would spacenews need to link to the code? the kubos website is here: https://www.kubos.com/kubos/Sep 08 19:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.kubos.com | KubOS | KubosSep 08 19:21
schestowitzthat page links to: https://github.com/kubosSep 08 19:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-github.com | Kubos · GitHubSep 08 19:21
schestowitzof course they need to #deletegithubSep 08 19:21
schestowitz"Sep 08 19:21
schestowitz[19:34] <danielinux> Hello, dropping here a few more technical info about Azure IoT Device Management, and Windows 10 IoT Core ServicesSep 08 19:35
schestowitz[19:34] <danielinux> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot-core/manage-your-device/AzureIoTDMSep 08 19:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-docs.microsoft.com | Azure IoT Device Management - Windows IoT | Microsoft DocsSep 08 19:35
schestowitz[19:34] <danielinux> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/iot/iotcoreservicesoverviewSep 08 19:35
schestowitz[19:34] <schestowitz> cheersSep 08 19:35
schestowitz[19:35] <danielinux> (sorry looks a lot like corporate spam like this eheh)Sep 08 19:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-docs.microsoft.com | Windows 10 IoT Core Services | Microsoft DocsSep 08 19:35
schestowitz[19:37] <danielinux> I'm following Microsoft strategy entering IoT/Embedded market, since it's the are I'm more involved in right now, and they are doing a lot of promotion of these around, I've seen the same people from MS Germany demoing at embedded trade shows around europeSep 08 19:40
schestowitz[19:38] <schestowitz> so I'm told...Sep 08 19:40
schestowitz[19:38] <schestowitz> MS loves data... I mean, LinuxSep 08 19:40
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