●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, November 08, 2023 ●● ● Nov 08 [01:04] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techbytes [01:25] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 08 [04:03] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:14] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:14] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techbytes [04:30] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 08 [06:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 08 [09:30] *jacobk (~quassel@nm9nu8gvkax2u.irc) has joined #techbytes [09:40] *jacobk has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) ● Nov 08 [11:13] *jacobk (~quassel@32hz32it3ih2k.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 08 [12:07] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@u8ftxtfux23wk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 08 [13:58] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 08 [14:10] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/11/should-you-need-at-least-4-year.html?showComment=1699381905392#c5773443091686643323 [14:10] schestowitz "Concerning the German exams vs. the EQE and pass rates of other countries, there are several country-specific effects:

(1) E.g., in the UK if you pass papers A and/or B, you can skip the respective national papers, i.e., it works in the style "buy 2, get 1 for free". By contrast, the German exams are totally different in style from the EQE. Firstly, you have exams related to trademarks, designs, utility models, the [14:10] schestowitz rights of employed inventors towards their employer (and vice versa) and issues related to civil law. And also the parts related to patents are completely different, more in the style of an "opinion" (giving as many angles as possible, think of the way the advocate general works at the EU court of justice) than defending/attacking the patent monopoly application.

(2) The marking scheme of the EQE is totally differe [14:10] schestowitz nt from German exams. In German exams, if you notice an overlooked problem with how the problem is posed, you will usually be awarded extra points. In the EQE, you get between zero and negative points for such a thing. You have to completely retrain on how to perform an exam if you switch from one to the other.

(3) Completely different in Germany is also "who tries the EQE or German exams when". If you are in the UK [14:10] schestowitz , you can train both nationally and for the EQE in English. In Germany, there are many non-native speakers who will attempt the EQE without the national structured training. And a second group is (also German) people who do not want (or their employer does not want them) to do the mandatory unpaid eight months internship at the national patent monopoly and trademark office (DPMA) and federal patent monopoly court (BPatG). Especially the [14:10] schestowitz se groups would greatly benefit from a structured EQE training, whereas the burden for those also doing the national training would be excessive, at least for doing both simultaneously.

(4) There are some cultural differences between legal system, e.g., of the UK and Germany in general. In Germany, by definition "case law" is no law at all as nearly every aspect of legal life is codified, whereas the UK does not wor [14:10] schestowitz k with codified law, but considers "case law" as the standard. The latter again is helpful for naturally understanding how to write paper D1." [14:10] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Should you need at least a 4-year scientific degree to be a patent attorney? - The IPKat [14:11] *jacobk (~quassel@99ed6ukzxymmc.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [14:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [14:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 08 [15:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [15:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 08 [17:42] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 08 [18:14] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techbytes [18:16] schestowitz i am baffled by this [18:16] schestowitz explain to me this [18:50] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 08 [19:00] *jacobk (~quassel@99ed6ukzxymmc.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 08 [21:39] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Nov 08 [22:59] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Nov 08 [23:01] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:33] *psydroid3 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)