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| schestowitz | Re: Mind hosting this for me? | Jul 09 01:09 |
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| schestowitz | > Give this a read then try to find it on google. It’s been scrubbed since I’ve started pointing this out with regard to anti-trust and my links to it are broken now. This behavior is anti-trust AF and I’m going to start reaching out about it now that I know they’re concerned. | Jul 09 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Do you want me to upload the PDF? Would that be enough? | Jul 09 01:09 |
| schestowitz | Yessir. Them scrubbing this post shows that they’re afraid of it being realized. | Jul 09 01:09 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Create-stickiness-with-IP-Microsoft-Partner-Network.pdf | Jul 09 01:09 |
| schestowitz | It would be worth writing a short post about it which has the same title/headline and explain what it's about. That would help enhance discover-ability. | Jul 09 01:09 |
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| schestowitz | [09:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i have a favour to ask | Jul 09 03:14 |
| schestowitz | [09:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> commit ID in 6eb06beb4bedb8fbf3267f1698754a5ff207d811 in hxxxxxxxxxxxxx | Jul 09 03:14 |
| schestowitz | [09:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> look at the edit that i did to the RMS article, in that commit | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [09:35] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> can you do the same edit on your mirror of my article? | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [09:36] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i concluded that being overly aggressive about coraline ada was bad for my image. simply attacking ethical source is enough. as for eric raymond, i have decided that it is not worth showing my support of him, it could be used to sink me in the future | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [09:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i actually don't support esr, i just like that one thing he did | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [09:37] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> esr is a racist twat | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:20] <schestowitz> I have just taken a look | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:20] <schestowitz> it would be easier to know which paragraphs to change and what to | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:20] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> ah ok, lemme check | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:21] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> you only host the english one right? | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:21] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> you have the language menu, but only the english one is actually available | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:21] <schestowitz> tbh | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:21] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i suggest firstly removing the language menu | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:21] <schestowitz> on a personl note | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:21] <schestowitz> I am against toning things done post-publication | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:22] <schestowitz> unless there are errors | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:22] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> ok, then don't do it | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:22] <schestowitz> we need people who don't get censored or self-censor | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:22] <schestowitz> I'll keep the original language | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:22] <schestowitz> think of it as "uncensored" version | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:22] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> very well | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:23] <schestowitz> thanks | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:23] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i mostly did it because the sections i removed were superfluous and low quality | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:23] <schestowitz> self-censorship causes many of the current issues | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> well | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <schestowitz> people afraid to say things because of the "professionals" | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i was made aware of some racist shit esr says, after i published the article, | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <schestowitz> yes, we all said some bad things once upon a time | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <schestowitz> we need a culture that can average out the worst | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> my article didn't support esr, just defended something he said about osi and ethical source | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i might un-do my edit tbh | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <schestowitz> rms also supported esr on some things | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:25] <schestowitz> he told me | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:25] <schestowitz> because they use his worst and l00n posts to cancel everything he ever did | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:25] <schestowitz> they do the same to derek taylor | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> you know what? | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i didn't see this as self-censorship | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> but you raise a good point | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:26] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i think it may have been a mistake for me to modify the article | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:27] <schestowitz> it is self-censorship | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:27] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i didn't even come out in support of esr himself, just a specific thing he said | Jul 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | [10:27] <schestowitz> if someone else convinced you to | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:27] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> and what he said was correct | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:27] <schestowitz> even after publishing | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <schestowitz> mjg is doing it to people all the time | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> hot damn! | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> you're right | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i'm so sorry | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i'll revert my edit | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <schestowitz> good | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> all you had to do was say mjg | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> fuck that guy | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:28] <schestowitz> mjg tried to paint me as pro-rape | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:29] <schestowitz> and because ryan, who is gay, was traumatised by a trans uncle as a child, he also tried to paint techrights as anti-trans | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:29] <schestowitz> then they can go around my back asking people to censor links to us | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:30] <schestowitz> recent example in http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:31] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> i have reverted the edits now | Jul 09 03:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights | Jul 09 03:16 | |
| schestowitz | [10:31] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> thank for your snapping me out of it | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [10:31] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxXX> it won't happen again | Jul 09 03:16 |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/03/european-patent-office-publishes-annual-review-2020/#comments | Jul 09 03:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | European Patent Office publishes Annual Review 2020 - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jul 09 03:19 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Do not take us for a ride! | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | JULY 3, 2021 AT 5:54 PM | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Like every document coming from the present management of the EPO it is full of buzzwords and tries to give a glorious picture of the EPO. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | If one knows the reality behind it, it is far from being glorious. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | The actual president of the EPO had been chosen to restore social peace at the office. In matters of being disliked by his staff he achieved in less than three years what his predecessor took much longer to achieve. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | The constant attack on the salaries and pensions and the fact that even examining staff can only have 5 year contracts, renewable once, before hoping to get a non-time limited contract is covered up by meaningless management warble. It is clearly management by fear, and if you dare say something you are out quicker than you think. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | When a staff member leaves the office before ten years he has accrued no right for a pension from the EPO. He just gets back the sums he has put in the pension scheme and has to look what he can do with it. The EPO is not any longer an attractive employer. Any potential staff with a family and children will not leave his country of origin, sever all links with his social security scheme, to come to such a wobbly situation. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | The nepotism at the EPO has taken proportions which are hard to believe. Having connections with the Iberian Peninsula in general and Alicante in particular gives you a good chance to be propelled in the higher salary levels when entering the EPO. Otherwise you are just good for the coal front. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | The only thing which matters to management is churning out “products” as quickly as possible. Timeliness is what counts, the rest is secondary. The latest folly of EPO’s management is to put most of the staff which is allowed to be present in the office in open space offices, and this applies to examiners as well. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Most of the staff members, and this is also valid for members of the BA, will not even have an allotted desk, less an office. They will have to put their name on a list and on the days they are allowed to come in look which desk is free! | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Money has been provided in the budget to refurbish the EPO buildings in order to create those open spaces. When you know that the BA will come back into town, near Hackerbrücke, you wonder why all this money has been spent on rented accommodation in Haar with a very long lease. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | As far as quality is concerned one has just to look at decisions of the BA. When you look at some recent decisions on substantial procedural violations you have to realise that the three man division exists only on paper. Working in home office, which should become the norm in the future, is certainly not enhancing the feeling of belonging and the cooperation with colleagues. But on a glossy paper everything looks honky dory. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | The number of patents revoked or severely limited after opposition is dramatically increasing. In general the search can be qualified as being sub-optimal, and examination is even worse. It would be interesting to see the real internal quality figures. There are far from being as glorious as the office tries the outside word to believe. But they will never be published. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | As far as public user consultation is concerned, receiving 150 responses is anything to be proud of when you compare with the number of applicants and qualified representatives. The reason for this is very simple: why bother to send in suggestions and comments as the EPO will ignore most of them. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | The same is happening for OP by ViCo without consent of the parties, cf. G 1/21. The way the PD legal affairs behaved during yesterday’s OP before the EBA is perfectly illustrating the disdain of the present management for the users of the EPO. Alleging that there was never a right for OP in person and that Art 116 does not forbid OP by ViCo and it is for the office to decide on the form OP can take and the parties have no say as the office knows | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | what is good for the parties, could not give a worse impression. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Something has gone wrong at the EPO. It has become a playground for co-opted pseudo managers full of themselves and who do not have the faintest idea of the “products” delivered, but know very well how those “products” should look like. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Anon Y. Mouse | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | JULY 4, 2021 AT 5:51 PM | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | This is the first that I have ever heard about the Boards of Appeal moving back into Munich. | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Is that true? Has this been publicly confirmed? It would be a welcome move, but I find it hard to believe that the EPO management would reverse such a recent decision so easily (even if that decision has proven immensely unpopular both within the EPO and with its users). | Jul 09 03:19 |
| schestowitz | Attentive Observer | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | JULY 4, 2021 AT 8:10 PM | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | The members of the boards have been informed. They have the same conditions than other staff members: no personal desk. If they want a desk they have to apply for one! | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Modern management! | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Observer | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | JULY 3, 2021 AT 7:08 PM | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Wouldn’t a link to the press release have been more efficient? Everything is perfect, and moving according to plans. | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Concerned observer | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | JULY 5, 2021 AT 11:36 AM | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | A masterclass in crafting seemingly positive conclusions from rather unpromising material. For example, consider the statement “The consultation cycle was considered a success”. Whilst this sounds positive, it could actually be (and most likely is) an example of the management marking their own homework … as it does not indicate WHO considered the consultation cycle to be a success. | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | The report is also excellent text to use when playing buzzword bingo. However, when it comes to providing an accurate picture of the current state of the EPO, it seems to me that this document is rather useless. I suppose that this is all that one can expect when the management has no fear of being held accountable for making false or misleading statements. | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Another trick seems to be to design key performance indicators that look good for (and are easily managed by) EPO management, but that are in fact not intended to provide a meaningful insight into real world performance. For example, how do the five pillars of “quality” (“design; support; shared values; metrics and continual learning; and dialogue”) lead to high quality patent search and examination? It seems to me that it all rather depends | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | upon what “metrics” you decide to measure, as well as what is meant in reality by the other four pillars. For example, experience teaches us that “dialogue” can actually be EPO-speak for “we announce new measures and then offer you an opportunity to provide comments that we have no intention of taking into account”. Anyone who spent time preparing and submitting comments on Art 15a RPBA can bear witness to this. | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Attentive Observer | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | JULY 7, 2021 AT 3:56 AM | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | If you define what your thermometer you are using, you will never be ill. | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Even on your deathbed you will be perfectly healthy. | Jul 09 03:20 |
| schestowitz | It makes me sad to see how the EPO is willfully drawn into the wall by would be managers who do not have a clue about the harm they actually do! | Jul 09 03:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/russia-adopts-law-that-shakes-cognac.html?showComment=1625665593829#c5220494251295622868 | Jul 09 09:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Russia adopts law that shakes Cognac and Champagne importers - The IPKat | Jul 09 09:18 | |
| schestowitz | | | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Dear Anastasiia, | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Many thanks for your comment. | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | This provision reads "В течение семи лет со дня вступления в силу настоящего Федерального закона допускается в целях производства коньяка переработка или использование коньячного дистиллята, произведенного за пределами территории Российской Федерации", | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | i.e. "Within seven years from the date of entry into force of this Federal Law, for the purpose of cognac production, processing or use of cognac distillate produced outside the territory of the Russian Federation is allowed". | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | IMHO, this merely means that for producing cognac in Russia (which will have to be branded as "Russian cognac") Russian cognac distillate will have to be used after 7 years. | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Apparently, this provision is to protect the investments of those producers who have already imported cognac distillate from abroad to make cognac of it in next 7 years. | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | IMHO, this provision does Not mean that after a transition period of 7 years, the name ‘cognac’ will only be used for those products that are made from cognac distillate produced in Russia. | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Btw, could you maybe explain the geopolitical component of this news? | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Thank you again for the exciting news! | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/russia-adopts-law-that-shakes-cognac.html?showComment=1625731876109#c3179956353158086162 | Jul 09 09:18 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Russia adopts law that shakes Cognac and Champagne importers - The IPKat | Jul 09 09:18 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Dear reader, thank you for this very interesting discussion! | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | I agree that the provision might be read in two senses, also in a more narrow one and only applicable to the production within the territory of Russia, that is, to "Russian cognac". Any statement in this regard, from Russian officials, would be helpful for the market to prepare for the changes, if any. | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Concerning the geopolitical component of the news, it is important to bear in mind that the Law has been in preparation for some years, so it is not a direct reaction to any very recent event. Still, within the Eastern European region Russia leads a policy, which is very different from that of its neighbours (and shows to others that this different approach is possible). Even if the new law is completely within the requirements of international IP | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | law, it might be in the interests of the EU to be a little more vocal in condemning "Russian champagne" or "Russian cognac". After Russia has passed this new Law, I now see a lot of dissatisfaction in Ukraine (and, I guess, in other countries too), with citizens, but also public officials asking themselves, why weren't we allowed to keep "cognac" or "champagne". | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 09 09:18 |
| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/07/vico-oral-proceedings-on-legality-of.html?showComment=1625741448310#c5291975448234552059 | Jul 09 09:19 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | ViCo oral proceedings on the legality of ViCo oral proceedings - G1/21, The Sequel - The IPKat | Jul 09 09:19 | |
| schestowitz | | | Jul 09 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Is it any wonder that the AC has given up its control function and that the tail is wagging the dog? | Jul 09 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Since 2010, the Office Administration has been completely infiltrated by former AC members. | Jul 09 09:19 |
| schestowitz | To list just a few: | Jul 09 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Battistelli, Casado, Lutz, Topic, now followed by Campinos (who used to head the Portuguese delegation before he moved to Alicante), Ernst and most recently Ficsor as PD in the Legal Affairs department. | Jul 09 09:19 |
| schestowitz | With such extensive cross-pollination and no effective external oversight is it any wonder that things have developed as they have? | Jul 09 09:19 |
| schestowitz | | | Jul 09 09:19 |
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| schestowitz | Re: C. J. | Jul 09 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > *You sent me this video in March of 2020. but I just had another viewing | Jul 09 23:28 |
| schestowitz | > and I was amazed by Chalmers Johnson, a brilliant man who had a keen | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > insight and intelligence in world politics to enlighten us | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > to realities we were not aware of.* | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > * | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > * | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > * | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > *https://youtu.be/8t8KxIE9m-A <https://youtu.be/8t8KxIE9m-A>* | Jul 09 23:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Domestic Democracy or Foreign Imperialism - YouTube | Jul 09 23:29 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Domestic Democracy or Foreign Imperialism - YouTube | Jul 09 23:29 | |
| schestowitz | > *> Sorry, previous message had the wrong link. See below for correction | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TgnKZ5UgYS0 | Jul 09 23:29 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | The Sorrows of Empire - Chalmers Johnson - YouTube | Jul 09 23:29 | |
| schestowitz | Every now and then I mention him. | Jul 09 23:29 |
| schestowitz | He died a long time ago, but over a decade ago he made me aware of things I had not known. That still impacts my views today. | Jul 09 23:29 |
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