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| acer-box | https://twitter.com/therealpadams/status/1159465323575369729 | Aug 09 02:42 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@therealpadams: @schestowitz All the usual reasons. The biggest problem for them is falling revenues. | Aug 09 02:42 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/j082298/status/1159492006252560385\\ | Aug 09 02:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@j082298: @schestowitz You don't think they are collecting all the data for nothing, do you? It doesn't stop there. What if t… https://t.co/mLwR8n19Di | Aug 09 02:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@j082298: @schestowitz You don't think they are collecting all the data for nothing, do you? It doesn't stop there. What if t… https://t.co/mLwR8n19Di | Aug 09 02:43 | |
| acer-box | "You don't think they are collecting all the data for nothing, do you? It doesn't stop there. What if they don't like your genes? Or your opinions?" | Aug 09 02:43 |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1159528068949651456 | Aug 09 02:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StarchyArchie: @schestowitz https://t.co/cPoT6SCPqv | Aug 09 02:43 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StarchyArchie: @FastCompany #Alexa #SurveillanceCapitalism | Aug 09 02:43 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/JLeMura2/status/1159543156842438656 | Aug 09 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JLeMura2: @schestowitz What should Ola's supporters outside of Ecudor | Aug 09 02:44 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/jeffreyneillong/status/1159613003978833920 | Aug 09 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jeffreyneillong: @mektronik yeah Coreboot https://t.co/adlTw6kla6 | Aug 09 02:44 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: How Can #AMD #EPYC "Rome" 7002 Series Be Even Better? Open-Source BIOS / #Coreboot https://t.co/xKhj0qPsAE | Aug 09 02:44 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/jeffreyneillong/status/1159633805172334592 | Aug 09 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jeffreyneillong: Empire of Voyeurs https://t.co/z8wc89KhYm | Aug 09 02:44 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: "Between 3% and 11% of the images captured by the webcams were sexually explicit in nature" #gchq using webcams to… https://t.co/QjloQwF4Ur | Aug 09 02:44 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/jeffreyneillong/status/1159636265945292801 | Aug 09 02:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jeffreyneillong: #Linux #Ubuntu Fuck Microsoft https://t.co/UukWbpSBBC | Aug 09 02:44 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS Arrives with #Linux Kernel 5.0 https://t.co/afNPOxuSXr more: https://t.co/odvmC8G9JO | Aug 09 02:44 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/jeffreyneillong/status/1159640913343205377 | Aug 09 02:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jeffreyneillong: Fuck Microsoft https://t.co/usWyHAHCI0 | Aug 09 02:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #microsoft is not only bribing officials but also threatening them https://t.co/uJBv8KEXbi | Aug 09 02:45 | |
| schestowitz | You might want to respond to it in the blog comments: | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > Dude... I mostly share your feelings, but I don't think a "PEOPLE WAKE THE F$%K UP!!1!" tone is the way to go, and also you're mixing several different things. They're related, ok. But they're also issues in their own right. | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > - FSF role is a complex problem. For us, and for them. Reducing it to "needs a way to justify itself to sponsors and members alike" is frankly rude given its history. The freedom we all claim to defend here also comes with the freedom of specifity: they're people, have limited time, limited health, limited budget... I can't blame them for focusing in something. They're not the all-grabbing monster that private corporations are. And I'm sure | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | this stuff has its place in their internal debates. Yet, as I see it, the problem you bring is not about the FSF not doing what it should, but us asking too much from them. We may need other organizations. | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > - The same about freedom goes for KDE, and whatever other organization out there doing its own thing. Remember the desktop shift circa 2010? It was a cancer. I was between the few who liked canonical's Unity, specially for their convergence initiative. But a lot of my peers were rabid against it, even smiling when the projects kinda died, and always found "facts" to be like that. To this day, mobile GNU is not even up to "marginal" status, | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | but there's people around us that still finds it funny. Have you ever tried to go buying a new mobile phone? I stick to my ~2014 Firefox OS low budget, but it's going to die eventually, and I would have to deal with the Android community and their infinitely complex hardware offers with no software freedom in mind. The FSF didn't spoke about this issue just until after Ubuntu Phone and FFOS were officialy discontinued, and then recomended us | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | Replicant: an Android fork instead of any mobile GNU iteration. Who won anything on that? GNOME and KDE are still being harshly critized in the name of objectivity and purity, and so we have 3475639846539456 forks of current and previous versions anybody hardly need. I'm frankly sick of people critizing others desingns as if they're somehow brilliant and the others are blind, and that's the same way I feel about big projects shooting | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | themselves in the foot either by doing wrong things or by just being assholes. Both things are frequent and recurrent ad nauseum. And that's a problem in itself. We need some middle ground, and we don't have it: POSIX doesn't tell me (AFAIK) how to do a GUI/Graphical Shell/Desktop Environment/whatever-the-name. There's no interoperability standard for user interaction with a screen using a keyboard, a mouse, and/or a touch screen. We need | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | something like that with the bigger picture in mind, and not just "objective criticism" for the sake of "what is right". | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > - Systemd, I still can't understand it. Lots of people were happy with it even when it hardly worked at all. And that's part of the problem: how did that happened? Because if it wasn't some supervillain level PR like Trump or the brexit, then there's something for us to learn there. It's fine to denounce it as the problem it is. But we also need to tackle its spread methodology, specially between our peers. Slack? Nobody forced our peers to | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | use Slack. They were even running away from Skype, and then choose that. That's a big issue in front of our very nose, and a very different one from quality standars or evil corporate agendas. | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > - Thing is (and this is core in most of the problems in your post), Free Software community, and GNU/Linux in particular, is full of technical people not even closely related to FSF ideals. They're more on the open source side, which is full of enterprisey mindset: prestige, doing stuff to get a job or not losing it, trying to be someone's boss someday, making money, and so on. "Freedom" for this mindset is "freedom of commerce", and little | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | more than that. So they feel free as long as they can buy and sell stuff, and that's how far human rights reachs their work. I've been seen much more vegan programmers than free software supporters in a strong sense. And I'm most likely being unfair with lots of people saying this stuff, but the example stands: one doesn't need to be related to our "freedom" definition to be an active part of the GNU/Linux community. | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > - And then there are the dicks. A lot of code of conduct issues were raised in last years, reaching even Linus and RMS themselves. There has been lots of debates online about the toxicity of different GNU/Linux related communities, and the impact it has in GNU/Linux desktop adoption, developing, and ideals. For some people this is even a tool of the devil, as if it weren't a real problem (it's both things). | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > With all this in mind, my point is simple: the problem is people. And when the problem is people, the tool is politics. You can use mixed sciences to get knowledge from different phenomenons, but when going into changing things you will be doing politics and no other thing. From that point of view of mine, I believe your "facts" will hardly reach anyone not already convinced, no matter your objectivity level, and that's not a problem of the | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | world but yours. And I also believe that different problems require different knowledges: it's not just about "being right", but also "how to make it work". Honesty is a GREAT start, I fully agree with you in that. And yes, in the history of Free Software may be the key to solve this. But it's far from a "facts" issue, and more about how do we organize ourselves and do something about it. | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > You can see all comments on this post here: | Aug 09 03:09 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2019/08/07/enough-is-enough/#comments | Aug 09 03:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Guest Post: Enough is Enough! | Techrights | Aug 09 03:09 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15643455#ede96c609c780137ad9c52540039b762 | Aug 09 03:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Transport Layer Security version 1.3 in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/transport-layer-security-version-13-red-hat-enterprise-linux-8 #redhat #gnu #linux #security #tls | Aug 09 03:15 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.redhat.com | Transport Layer Security version 1.3 in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 | Aug 09 03:15 | |
| schestowitz | "About time we got a new version." | Aug 09 03:15 |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9lhBKTbzhNVSFtA94a | Aug 09 04:13 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 09 04:13 | |
| schestowitz | " it should be on archive.org?" | Aug 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz | Not indexed, hard to find | Aug 09 04:13 |
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