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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StephieGilley/status/1248395763299708928 | Apr 10 05:56 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StephieGilley: @dennisofvenice @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz Scroll back to the previous tweet. | Apr 10 05:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dennisofvenice/status/1248395436332691456 | Apr 10 05:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dennisofvenice: @StephieGilley @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz I trust that if there… https://t.co/ELkXUZ6JFw | Apr 10 05:56 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dennisofvenice: @StephieGilley @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz I trust that if there… https://t.co/ELkXUZ6JFw | Apr 10 05:56 | |
| schestowitz | "I trust that if there is some evil inside of this organization, it will be cleansed now. What specifically do you think they need to be held accountable for? Do you have evidence of some serious violation committed?" | Apr 10 05:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sweetlittlepic1/status/1248393445397254145 | Apr 10 05:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sweetlittlepic1: @schestowitz My spidey senses are telling me to not trust Fauci https://t.co/RyvACngzxU | Apr 10 05:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sweetlittlepic1: @schestowitz My spidey senses are telling me to not trust Fauci https://t.co/RyvACngzxU | Apr 10 05:57 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StephieGilley/status/1248392896429977608 | Apr 10 05:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StephieGilley: @dennisofvenice @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz Good luck getting any… https://t.co/DfUJk9cPOn | Apr 10 05:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StephieGilley: @dennisofvenice @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz Good luck getting any… https://t.co/DfUJk9cPOn | Apr 10 05:57 | |
| schestowitz | "Good luck getting any of the people in either the RNC or the DNC to investigate the NIH. I would appeal to an international body as well." | Apr 10 05:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dennisofvenice/status/1248392222791225352 | Apr 10 05:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dennisofvenice: @StephieGilley @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz Any organization commi… https://t.co/1DO285ARTH | Apr 10 05:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dennisofvenice: @StephieGilley @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz Any organization commi… https://t.co/1DO285ARTH | Apr 10 05:58 | |
| schestowitz | Any organization committing human rights violations should be prosecuted for it, regardless of whether it's Left or Right. Let me make it clear that I'm an African American Democrat. I'm also a Nationalist. Democrats are hardly being Democratic, nor patriotic these days." | Apr 10 05:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/StephieGilley/status/1248387422808727552 | Apr 10 05:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StephieGilley: @dennisofvenice @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz The NIH is run by rig… https://t.co/5ep5fX374S | Apr 10 05:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@StephieGilley: @dennisofvenice @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz The NIH is run by rig… https://t.co/5ep5fX374S | Apr 10 05:58 | |
| schestowitz | "The NIH is run by rightwing Christians "doctors". Look into their biased research on male circumcision and their widespread practice of it in Africa to supposedly reduce HIV. I was horrified at what I found and think the NIH needs to be investigated." | Apr 10 05:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dennisofvenice/status/1248386547453329411 | Apr 10 05:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dennisofvenice: @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @StephieGilley @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz Yes. In fact Gates is… https://t.co/W5m571ZL3h | Apr 10 05:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dennisofvenice: @RedOwlDr @ThebeachedYeti @StephieGilley @queue1776 @Rrrrr08100399 @DoItForMaMa @schestowitz Yes. In fact Gates is… https://t.co/W5m571ZL3h | Apr 10 05:58 | |
| schestowitz | "Yes. In fact Gates is the second biggest WHO contributor behind the U.S. Africans have been complaining for decades about his experiments on people there. Our government recently seized Google and took off the filters. Feel free to Google anything I say. It should come up now. | Apr 10 05:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AgentApplebutt3/status/1248330655743627265 | Apr 10 05:59 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AgentApplebutt3: @schestowitz You put a lot of long hard hours with your work on your website. Fascinating finds.... Thank you. | Apr 10 05:59 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/youlikeitdark/status/1248294220202414080 | Apr 10 06:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@youlikeitdark: @schestowitz and who are blackrock exactly? | Apr 10 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/letsdot94709949/status/1248288259186331648 | Apr 10 06:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@letsdot94709949: @schestowitz The Moon??? Mine the Moon is a pan---demic? btw-our Earth is not ravaged-that comes after Jesus. | Apr 10 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | G | Apr 10 06:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/j082298/status/1248287349924134913 | Apr 10 06:00 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@j082298: Ravages? Hardly. https://t.co/PjFPjxFkUM | Apr 10 06:00 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #commondreams #covid19 ☞ As #Coronavirus #Pandemic Ravages Earth, #Trump Announces Push to Mine the Moon https://t.co/hgdKQTcjlp | Apr 10 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1248286960814301184 | Apr 10 06:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fcassia: @sjvn @ZDNet @schestowitz @glynmoody https://t.co/Fta3I4Oiaq | Apr 10 06:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jitsinews: Now this really warms the heart ❤️ Thank you so much for fighting the fight Vimercate Hospital! Being able to help… https://t.co/Ds2NNBPX8p | Apr 10 06:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1248286637869727746 | Apr 10 06:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fcassia: @sjvn @ZDNet @schestowitz @glynmoody Hear, hear, JitsiMeet doesn't scale @emilivov | Apr 10 06:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AmonMetalHead/status/1248273043123830784 | Apr 10 06:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AmonMetalHead: @sjvn @fcassia @ZDNet @schestowitz @glynmoody Tried Nextcloud Talk yet? Curious to know how it fares | Apr 10 06:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/1248271860514590721 | Apr 10 06:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sjvn: @fcassia @ZDNet @schestowitz @glynmoody As it happens, I've been testing out Jitsi and a host of other open-source… https://t.co/g502ee6AFw | Apr 10 06:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sjvn: @fcassia @ZDNet @schestowitz @glynmoody As it happens, I've been testing out Jitsi and a host of other open-source… https://t.co/g502ee6AFw | Apr 10 06:02 | |
| schestowitz | "As it happens, I've been testing out Jitsi and a host of other open-source video-conferencing programs. None of them scale well at all. When I can find one that works well--or I can make work well--I'll be telling everyone about it." | Apr 10 06:02 |
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| schestowitz | > I notice there are no IRC logs from 2020-04-09. They are usually posted | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | > during the night. Has something broken or gone wrong? | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | I went to sleep around 11 and then woke up at around 5. | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | The logs should be up now. | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | I cannot produce them until midnight or later. | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | Today is my last day for the week at work, back Monday. | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | Sadly, some people won't be back to work Monday. | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | An hour ago: | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136213 | Apr 10 06:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy, Now Cloud Guru) Publishes Last Shows | Tux Machines | Apr 10 06:34 | |
| schestowitz | I do NOT know the history of it, but I think this company was made or co-made by Lunduke. It was famous for Linux Action Show. | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | I am catching up with loads of things at the moment. My feeds are VERY busy despite Easter. I lack an explanation for it, but I won't complaint. Better busy than bored. | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | Our Gates article receive a lot more attention these days. | Apr 10 06:34 |
| schestowitz | https://social.tchncs.de/@scops/103911873524693835 | Apr 10 06:35 |
| schestowitz | " ... and got the final (android/kernel/security-) update over a year ago... >.<| | Apr 10 06:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-social.tchncs.de | scops: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology ... and got the …" - Mastodon | Apr 10 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://cybre.space/@bat/103912892767064820 | Apr 10 06:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-cybre.space | Bat Fang: "@tuxmachines@mastodon.technology i believe the li…" - Cybrespace | Apr 10 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | " i believe the link is http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/135784 **" | Apr 10 06:35 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | This 5G smartphone comes with Android, Linux - and a keyboard. Back to the future with the Astro Slide | Tux Machines | Apr 10 06:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.pandanet.moe/objects/3f0a6264-ffcd-4ede-815d-0d8eb1fc4c4f | Apr 10 06:36 |
| schestowitz | " Looks like Microsoft has got free software by the balls" | Apr 10 06:36 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-pleroma.pandanet.moe | Pleroma | Apr 10 06:36 | |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | Hi everyone, | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | today I have some exciting news and a proposal to relay: SUSE wants to | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | go another step in openness towards the openSUSE community and suggests | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | to bring the relationship of openSUSE Leap and SUSE Linux Enterprise to | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | a new level. | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | Internally this idea is called "Closing the Leap Gap" and proposes to | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | strengthen and bring more closely together: | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | * developer communities, by focusing on openSUSE Leap as a | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | development platform for communities and industry partners; | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | * user communities, by leveraging the benefits of both a stable | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | Enterprise code base and the speed of community contributions; | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | * the code bases of openSUSE Leap and SUSE Linux Enterprise (SLE), | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | by not only sharing sources, but also offering the SUSE Linux | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | Enterprise binaries for inclusion in openSUSE Leap. | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | The proposal includes a three step approach: | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | 1. Merge the code bases for the intersection of openSUSE Leap 15.2 | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | and SUSE Linux Enterprise 15 SP2 as much as possible without loss | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | of functionality or stability. (SUSE has started a cleanup process | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | on the SUSE Linux Enterprise side already.) | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | 2. In parallel to classic openSUSE Leap 15.2 create a flavor leveraging | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | SLE binaries, leading to an intermediate release in the October 2020 | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | time frame. | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | 3. Build openSUSE Leap 15.3 with SLE binaries included by default | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | (assuming community agreement). | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | As you can imagine, a number of people have been involved with this | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | so far, and I'd like to pull some of them in front of the curtain in | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | a little interview. | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | Q: Thomas, all of engineering at SUSE reports to you, and I know | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | openSUSE is something you care about quite a bit. What is SUSE | Apr 10 06:50 |
| schestowitz | putting on the table here? | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Thomas Di Giacomo: Let me step back, and give you a perspective as I see | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | it. SUSE for 27+ years has been a part of global open source ecosystem | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | that includes a vast number of developers, end users, communities, | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | and organizations of all sizes working together and benefiting from | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | the collective work. Most of our engineers are involved as well with | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | some open source communities that they feel passionate about. | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Open source communities are an integral part of who we are and the | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | ecosystem we serve. Naturally, we feel responsible to support the | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | communities and the work done by them. openSUSE is no different and | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | is actually even more special and very dear to SUSE. So, it should | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | come as no surprise that we are fully committed towards the openSUSE | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | project(s) and its community. It makes us all feel proud to see Leap | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | and Tumbleweed grow and evolve, together with SUSE Linux Enterprise. | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | This effort of our engineers working together with others in the | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | openSUSE community will benefit everyone involved for many years | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | to come. | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Q: And why are you doing this? | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Thomas: We want open source to succeed for everyone – developers, | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | contributors to end users and everyone in between. The benefits of | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | open source are tremendous when the ecosystem grows as a result of | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | the positive virtuous cycle of – contributing more, supporting the | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | contributions, benefiting from contributions, which inspires more | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | people contributing, and it goes on to grow as an upward virtuous spiral. | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | We feel fortunate to be in the position of seeing the openSUSE community | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | grow in tandem with the success of SUSE Linux Enterprise, and both | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | feeding off each other to grow even more. This idea definitely goes in | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | that direction. Now, let me defer to Matthias who came up with this idea. | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Q: Okay, so, Matthias, first of all: what is your role at SUSE? | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Matthias Eckermann: I am leading the Product Management team for | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Linux platforms, covering SUSE Linux Enterprise, Edge, and Security. | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Q: And what made you propose this? | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Matthias: My team and I realized that the engagement of our SLE | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | business with the openSUSE community does not fully fit our view | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | on openness, and that mutual benefits are not leveraged sufficiently. | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | We discussed what it would take to bridge the gap and bring the | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | relationship to the next level. Beyond a common ground on the | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | technical side, the code streams, this requires learning from each | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | other; for example, we need to re-establish an open feature process | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | between community, SUSE, and our industry partners. | Apr 10 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Thus we developed "Closing the Leap Gap", and - to test whether it | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | might have a chance to fly - we outlined the initial idea with the | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | openSUSE Board before going for approvals by SUSE management. | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Q: You mention the board, so let me ask. What is your take? | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | What opportunities, benefits do you see? What risks? | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Axel Braun: With this change, we can make better use of our | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | resources, as two code bases converge - so one build target less to | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | consider. Everyone who packages for Leap and for Package Hub will | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | immediately benefit from this. | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Marina Latini: It's really exciting to see how SUSE is trying to increase | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | its support for Leap, reducing the existing differences between our | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | openSUSE Leap and SLE. I can see this proposal as a way to be more | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | inclusive, giving to the community the opportunity to contribute in | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | an easier way to Leap and giving the chance to bring the openSUSE | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | spirit also in an Enterprise product like SLE. | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | On the other hand, every new move is a change and we need to be sure | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | that the changes won't limit our community freedom to submit packages | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | to Leap or won't slow down Leap for following the internal SUSE | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | development model. | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Q: Matthias, that sounds like some extra effort required. | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | How is SUSE contributing, what is SUSE committing to? | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Matthias: Indeed, there is quite some one-time effort needed to get | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | (back) to the common ground; this is covered by SUSE engineering teams; | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | two groups are heavily involved: The Open Build Service experts are | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | designing a workflow for a smooth integration of the binaries, and | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | for reducing the long term maintenance efforts for our community | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | contributors. SUSE release managers and packagers are working hard | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | to synchronize the code bases without losing functionality or quality. | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Hundreds of change requests have been filed already, and to get this | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | done properly, we are delaying the release of SUSE Linux Enterprise | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | 15 SP2 to July. | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | And we are willing to invest more, to drive the idea to success | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | quickly: we would take the burden, to create an intermediate openSUSE | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Leap release in October 2020 which then would incorporate SUSE Linux | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Enterprise binaries into Leap the first time. | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Probably, Adrian can comment on the Build Service aspects, and Lubos | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | what it means to developers within SUSE and to the community release | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | process? | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Q: So, Lubos, as release manager for Leap, what have you been doing | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | so far, and what is the impact you see? | Apr 10 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Lubos Kocman: I spent most of the time on collecting data regarding SLE | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | and Leap differences and having follow-up discussions and transforming | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | feedback into action items. Max and the rest of the openSUSE release | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | engineering team meanwhile did an excellent job of keeping Leap release | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | activities going forward. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | The idea of re-using should generally lower the effort on the Leap side. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | However, it comes with the price of increased complexity to bring all | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | pieces together. A new process will allow external contributors to file | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | feature or update requests directly to SLE. This will already help a lot. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Q: Is this an outcome bound effort, or time bound? I know the SLE | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | release schedule is a bit like a 300m tanker. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Lubos: It's both. I see this as a balance between what can we deliver, | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | how, and to what date. It took quite some effort to create a plan | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | acceptable by all involved teams. Splitting the work across the | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | upcoming two releases seemed to be accepted well at least by | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | involved parties so far. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Q: So, that is SLE 15 SP2. How about Leap 15.2? | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Lubos: openSUSE Leap 15.2 will have to slip by about 8 weeks to incorporate | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | all changes from the SLE and align with its new schedule. I believe that | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | the release will find a great use for extra time since we're still | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | finishing the refresh of packages from Factory. The prototype will | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | be meanwhile available in parallel to the openSUSE Leap 15.2. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Q: How is that research proceeding, Adrian? | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Adrian Schröter: We have an idea about the setup in build.opensuse.org. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | I anticipate to have a first prototype of the build setup in next three | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | weeks. And more important is how to develop the workflows to allow a | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | more collaborative joint effort between SLE and openSUSE development. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | However, we must keep in mind that this is really an entire new way to | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | develop a distribution. On one hand it makes a lot of sense to integrate | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | for example the SUSE Backports (aka Package Hub) people directly in our | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | development process. This will make our distribution development stronger. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | On the other hand, we also must find ways how to solve new problems. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | For example how to keep our builds for architectures not covered by | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | SLES like Arm 32bit and RISC-V. Also the turn around times of submissions | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | and build results will be a challenge in the initial setup. And last but | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | not least, the installed systems and users may need to deal with more | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | repositories. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | But we have one year to work on these problems in parallel to our | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | stable distribution. And we are indeed looking forward to make | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | openSUSE and SLE development more beneficial than ever. | Apr 10 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Gerald: Thanks everyone for your input. I'll be sharing all this with | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | openSUSE mailing lists, and am sure there will be further questions, | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | offers to help, and other input, so please chime in there. | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap/FAQ/ClosingTheLeapGap has an FAQ with | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | more details. | Apr 10 06:54 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.opensuse.org | Portal:Leap/FAQ/ClosingTheLeapGap - openSUSE Wiki | Apr 10 06:54 | |
| schestowitz | Lubos is going to send a proposal with more details on the implementation | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | side to opensuse-factory@. | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | I suggest we focus technical discussions of this offer and proposals | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | there (opensuse-factory@) and general discussions on opensuse-project@. | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | So, what do you think? | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | Gerald | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | -- | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Gerald Pfeifer <gp@suse.com>, CTO @SUSE + chair @openSUSE | Apr 10 06:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 10 06:54 |
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| schestowitz | <li> | Apr 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | <h5><a href="https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2020/a-hello-world-virtual-machine-running-the-hurd/">A “Hello World” virtual machine running the Hurd</a></h5> | Apr 10 10:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2020/a-hello-world-virtual-machine-running-the-hurd/">A ) | Apr 10 10:45 | |
| schestowitz | <blockquote> | Apr 10 10:45 |
| schestowitz | <p>Today we have a humble gift for you: On the wip-hurd-vm branch we have an initial hurd.scm system description that can be used to cross build a VM running the Hurd. </p></blockquote></li> | Apr 10 10:45 |
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