●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, May 10, 2026 ●● ● May 10 [06:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [06:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2026-05/msg00001.html [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] "The following article describes a security expert's effort to [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] determine whether Anthropic's claim of "thousands of severe [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] vvlnerabilies" is true. He examined the CVE registry. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Researchers Are Trying to Determine How Many Vulnerabilities Claude [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Mythos Has Discovered [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] https://hackmag.com/news/mythos-cves [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] VulnCheck specialist Patrick Garrity tried to determine how many [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] vulnerabilities Anthropic's new AI model Claude Mythos actually [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] discovered as part of the Project Glasswing initiative. Recall that [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] the developers had claimed it found thousands of 0-days. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] ... [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Gerrity decided to put Anthropic's bold claims to the test and [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] examined the CVE registry, which contains more than 327,000 [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] entries. He searched for all records containing the word "Anthropic" [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] starting from February 2026 and manually analyzed the results. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] --- [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] On April 7th Jim Zemlin of the Linux Foundation made a statement [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] on Project Glasswing. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/project-glasswing-gives-maintainers-advanced-ai-to-secure-open-source [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] The message is addressed primarily to "open source" developers. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Zemlin understands that they suffer from limited resources and says [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] that Project Glasswing would be a blessing because "AI" would assist [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] arduous security-related work. He speaks of providing Claude [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] access to "open source" developers, even going on to suggest that [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] such access would entice people to accept maintainer roles. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] There are several problems. The above was posted on April 7th. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] A month has passed but maintainers are generally unaware of this [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] proclamation. The Linux Foundation has not issued any further [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] statements, indicating an absence of notable progress. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] There are many free software projects that maintain critical system [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] components. Compiling a comprehensive list is a significant task. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Any attempt to determine who shall be let in and who shall be kept out [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] should lead to noisy debate, which we currently do not observe. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] I believe Jim Zemlin's plan to make Claude available to a large number [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] of "open source" developers is at odds with the desires of Project [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Glasswing member firms. Glasswing is promoted as a small and tight [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] group while Zemlin calls for throwing the gates wide open. Without [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] resolving this conflict the Linux Foundation cannot make progress. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Linux is the name of a kernel, and the Linux Foundation is built [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] around kernel developers. Many people wrongly believe that "Linux" is [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] the whole OS and do not understand that the Linux Foundation has [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] absolutely no authority over developers of other OS components. In [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] fact many developers are not interested in the Linux Foundation and [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] pay scant or no attention to announcements on their official website. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] In contrast when ordinary people hear that the Linux Foundation is a [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Glasswing member, they assume that developers of the "Linux OS" would [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] be given ample time and resources to deal with security issues. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] Unfortunately this is not the case. A dangerous gap between reality [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] and perception thereof exists. [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] --- [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] If we want to compile a list of critical system components, where do [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] we start? The Debian Popularity Contest may be the starting point: [06:48] schestowitz[TR2] https://popcon.debian.org/" [06:48] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-lists.gnu.org | Re: Anthropic sets up Project Glasswing [06:48] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Researchers Are Trying to Determine How Many Vulnerabilities Claude Mythos Has Discovered HackMag [06:48] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.linuxfoundation.org | Introducing Project Glasswing: Giving Maintainers Advanced AI to Secure the World's Code [06:50] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-popcon.debian.org | Debian Popularity Contest ● May 10 [11:38] schestowitz[TR2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48071496 [11:38] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Over 97% of the 'Linux' Foundation's Budget Goes Not to Linux | Hacker News [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] " [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Reading through the list of projects that the Linux Foundation supports (via infrastructure, governance, events, etc) with the other 181 million is honestly shocking. They are supporting, among like a thousand others - NodeJS/OpenJS, PyTorch, Electron, K8s, vLLM, ONNX, PX4, GraphQL - plus the 'smaller' entries like Zephyr, Containerd, gRPC, KiCAD, ESLint, Fastify, etc. Their portfolio is literally insane. This is the BlackRock of t [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] he entire digital world. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] apexalpha 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Well since the Cloud Native foundation is a subsidiary of the Linux foundation this makes sense. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] cdud3 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Feels a lot like the Mozilla Foundation which also ended to do everything but there Browser. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] philistine 21 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Yeah but with the Linux foundation, I read the list of things they fund and I see important projects. What is it that Mozilla does again? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] smegger001 17 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Lets see; a phone os no one used, and ad on installed without user permision as a tie-for a TV show, browser integration with a thirdparty bookmarking service that should have been an optional addon, a VPN, an abborted browser based video confercing service based on open standards that they killed for non obvious reasons, a bunch of social justice initiatives, an email masking/forwarding service killing their addon APIs in favor of [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] googles more limited api. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] walrus01 14 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] To be fair to the vpn product, at least they did it through a partnership with mullvad, one of the least-terrible (not even in the same ballpark as the likes of nordvpn, etc) commercial vpn service providers in existence. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] sudo_cowsay 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] is it investments or just donating/funding for no compensation? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] woodruffw 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Without bending over backwards to defend the Linux Foundation, I'll point out that the 97% number means very little -- the percentage that actually matters is the percentage that doesn't go towards funding open source at all. The Linux Foundation hasn't been solely about Linux for decades; they are (facially) responsible for hosting a very large number of open source projects. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] cyanydeez 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] one could also argue that software that build on top of it create the ecosystem that can drive linux adoption. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] This critique is myopic. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] daviddever23box 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Agreed - without user-space, developer and deployment tools, there's not much for the kernel to do. 3% on the kernel might even seem overly high. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] coldtea 21 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] And one would argue without actually focusing on Linux the kernel and Linux distro on top for the average user, they're just funding server FOSS for use by fat companies [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] woodruffw 21 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Thats explicitly their mission, though! Theyre a trade organization that advances member interests, not a public interest nonprofit. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] (In effect, theyre a coordinating body for fat companies. They do indeed fund things in those companies interests, but they do it with corporate money.) [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] coldtea 21 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] >Theyre a trade organization that advances member interests, not a public interest nonprofit. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Maybe they should say that with a huge banner on their website then. How many people give them money thinking it's for the good of FOSS in the idealistic sense? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] woodruffw 20 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Very few, I think. I had to search for their donate page, and it says explicitly that donations are not tax deductible. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] (FWICT, the overwhelming majority of LFs money comes from conference fees, and the biggest chunk of the rest comes from corporate dues. Private donations dont appear to be a significant portion of their income.) [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] wolttam 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] 8 million (~3%) towards the Linux kernel [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] 180 million (~65%) towards ancillary project support, which includes a huge ecosystem of useful technologies around linux [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Their 'corporate operations' overhead is like 5% of expenses. whoop. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] _fizz_buzz_ 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Lots of opensource project use the Linux Foundation to handle their funding. My understanding is that e.g. corporate sponsors for the KiCad project will actually transfer the money to the Linux Foundation but the money is then earmarked for the KiCad project. The advantage for KiCad is then that they don't have the overhead (accounting, receipts, etc.). [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] tdeck 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Is there a description of the other projects that fall under that heading? I was curious but didn't see it skimming through the document. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] blazarquasar 22 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.linuxfoundation.org/projects [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] SwellJoe 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] And, 4% toward blockchain. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] geon 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Git? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] SwellJoe 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I don't know what you mean. Git is not on the charts shown on that page, and git is not related to blockchain. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] geon 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] > A blockchain is a distributed ledger with growing lists of records (blocks) that are securely linked together via cryptographic hashes.[1][2][3][4] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Thats exactly what git is. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] coldtea 21 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Yeah, no. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] SwellJoe 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [3 more] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] tosti 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] software != technology [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] teo_zero 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] To be fair, you should say that over 97% of the Linux Foundation's budget goes not to the Linux kernel. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] There's more to Linux than the kernel. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Snild 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Don't let Stallman hear you say that! [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] ThePowerOfFuet 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] GNU/Linux is rapidly becoming systemd/Linux at this rate... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] yxhuvud 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Especially with distros like Ubuntu throwing out gnu coreutils. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] anthk 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] And generating race conditions because Rust newbies think memory safety will solve all issues on I/O. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] jdub 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I've had occasional concerns about the Linux Foundation and how it operates, but there's no question it has been a transformative contribution to Open Source. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] A bunch of folks decided to get off their butts and gather donations to support Linux... and then it snowballed. Cool. The creators and members get to decide how they contribute, and projects get to decide if they want to participate. There are alternatives for projects that need to "raise and spend", and some are 501(c)(3). [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] (Also keep in mind that techrights.org has been an unhinged shit sheet attacking individuals and companies for insufficient purity for decades now.) [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] vintagedave 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] 2% on the Linux kernel. 1% on open hardware. 4% on blockchain. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I think that says it. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] They do support many other projects and seem to be stewards of the Linux ecosystem in general, but... 4% on blockchain?! I also feel many other projects should have their own funding: they're key to many businesses and that the 'Linux' foundation sponsors them is (a) good but (b) misplaced in the overall messed up system that is open source reliance and sponsorship. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] tdeck 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] The executive compensation is pretty shocking [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] blackjack_ 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Actually crazy that Linus just takes home 1.5M per year for one of the largest contributions to tech of anyone in the world. Obviously nobody needs more than that per year, but this pay is 1/100 or 1/1000th of many tech executives that have contributed very little comparatively. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] wmf 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] That's the difference between giving your work away for free or not. 100x. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] jancsika 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] 1st place: $1 million with my work running on billions of devices [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] A Very Distant 2nd place: $100 million and a beautifully framed picture of my masterpiece, The Conjoined Triangles of Success [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] balamatom 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Or maybe the difference between doing work, and controlling humans by convincing them that what they're doing is "work". [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] tome 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] > Obviously nobody needs more than that per year [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] What's the smallest amount per year you'd say it is obvious that no one needs? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] potamic 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] A wealth tax than caps one's inflow to something like a million a year makes a lot of sense. To all the billionaire sympathizers who worry about incentives and technological progress, this here is a perfect (and not the only) example of how intrinsic motivation can beat extrinsic motivation by a huge margin. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] There will always be people who value intrinsic incentives and even more so when there is a lack or limitation of extrinsic ones. Society will do well to structure itself primarily around such people. Such people are also less likely to cause damage to others because it's very rare that damage to others fulfills one's intrinsic needs. Linus is arguably a net positive to human society than the top 20 billionaires combined. We need m [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] ore of him and less of the others. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] xienze 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] > A wealth tax than caps one's inflow to something like a million a year makes a lot of sense. To all the billionaire sympathizers [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Perhaps the "billionaire sympathizers" are people who can manage to see that the bar for what is considered an unacceptable amount of wealth will keep being revised lower and lower until it affects them. Here you are already proposing that a person shouldn't be allowed to earn more than a total of a million dollars in income every year, which caps one's lifetime wealth accumulation at $40-60M[0]. Which would make anyone able to ach [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] ieve anywhere close to that sum as wealthy as today's wealthiest persons. After which the next person will suggest that such a thing shouldn't be allowed for the betterment of society. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] 0: assuming you can start earning that much starting at age 20 and you intend on retiring between 60 to 80, so obviously the range can go up or down a bit. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] logicchains 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] >There will always be people who value intrinsic incentives and even more so when there is a lack or limitation of extrinsic ones. Society will do well to structure itself primarily around such people. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Europe has developed no new big companies in the past two decades precisely because this isn't true. The vast majority of successful companies and products are developed by people motivated by money, and if you try to prevent them from being rewarded for their hard work then they just go somewhere where their effort is more welcome. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] thomascountz 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Europe has developed no new big companies in the past two decades precisely because this isn't true. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] This sounds like an oversimplification and assumes "big" is on par with net good. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] krior 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] That implies that the goal is to create big companiea. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] com 20 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Really? Your rhetoric seems to miss a LOT of new global businesses, as well as older ones that are much bigger than ever before. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Spotify, Wise, Adyen, DeepMind just off the top of my head, but there are loads more. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] The fact that you dont know about them is because many tech bros in the USA are pretty parochial and havent been exposed to international businesses or indeed tech. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] lyu07282 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] It's always wild to me how people perceive Europe. In left-wing academia there is this term "neoliberal encasement" that discusses in detail how neoliberal capitalism isolates the economy from democracy. The EU is sort of the end stage of this idea, economic policy is detached from democratic comtrol to such a degree that member states submit their draft budgets to unelected technocrats in Brussels for approval before "voting" on i [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] t. Imagine if IMF economists were to run the economies of a continent, that's what the EU is. It's staggering how completely the opposite of valuing people's intrinsic incentives this model is, but I get where you are coming from of course everybody thinks that, it's just still wild to me how they managed that narrative so well. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] 9753268996433 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Why so greedy? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Cap it to $12k/a, the average global personal income. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] rmunn 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] > Obviously nobody needs more than that per year ... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] You are, of course, in a position to know what everybody on Earth needs. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] What if someone wants to give $10 million away per year to worthy charities? Will you tell them they can't? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Or... what if someone wants to own something you consider wastefully expensive? Is it your job to tell them they shouldn't? Or is it wiser to adopt the position of humility and say "Well, it's their business, not mine, what they spend their money on"? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] It's easy to be motivated by envy, even when we think we aren't. It's much better for your soul, and your peace of mind, to adopt the "let them" mentality, and not decide what other people, whose lives you know nothing about, need. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] apexalpha 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] There is a big difference between 'needs' and 'wants'. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I'll defend the argument no one 'needs' more than 1.5 mill per year. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I agree with you greed is endless and lots of people want more and will rationalize their hoarding while others, often in their own communities, suffer. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] zeroCalories 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] No one really "needs" anything. You can live perfectly well on minimum wage. But really, you could survive perfectly well as a slave. Infact, the world is content for you to die and get nothing. All "need" is "want". All you deserve is what you have leverage for. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] array_key_first 19 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] This comment feels like playing stupid to such an absurd degree that the argument loses any semblance of thought and you sound like you're yelling at clouds. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Obviously being a slave is not the same as being a millionaire. If you make your argument this reductionist then you don't even sound human anymore, let alone well reasoned. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] benj111 23 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] This is a global audience. Define 'minimum wage' [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] queenkjuul 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] You absolutely cannot live perfectly well on minimum wage lmao [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] zeroCalories 12 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] What you mean is that you can't have everything you want on minimum wage [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] jdub 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Opponents of obscene wealth/income inequality are typically not motivated by envy that is your own projection. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] zeroCalories 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Huh, I've always got the same vibe from socialists about money that I get from incels about women. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] jdub 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] That terrible analogy does not produce a useful mental model on any level. You probably need to read Das Kapital. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] rmunn 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Let's end this conversation right here before it descends any further into ideological battle. And in the interests of peace, I shall hold my tongue about what I think about Marx, or of you for recommending him in a positive light. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] jdub 23 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Ha, if you think Marx is objectionable then you really need to read Das Kapital. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] rmunn 18 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Ah, something I can respond to without engaging in ideological battle. Instead, let's look at history. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I think Marx is objectionable because he was, objectively, an awful person. I mean, just to take one single example, look at what he wrote about Ferdinand Lassalle in this letter to Engels: [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1862/l... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] ... Yes. That's literally what Marx wrote. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] The first two paragraphs are particularly revealing on the question of whether Marx was, or was not, motivated by envy. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] jdub 7 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Seriously, you'd do better to engage with ideology and philosophy rather than the personal letters of flawed human beings. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] benj111 23 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] The text was given as an example of what socialist believe. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] If I said Nazis don't believe X, and held up Mein Kampf as an example, would I be implicitly endorsing it and a positive thing? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] zeroCalories 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Maybe you need to watch more Clavicular streams [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] queenkjuul 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] That says a lot about you [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] queenkjuul 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] For going on so much about needs, it's very funny that your one example is about wants [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] rmunn 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Interesting vote-to-downvote ratio my comment got. Seems there are a lot more people with anti-libertarian beliefs hanging out at HN at the moment than there are people who lean libertarian. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Since it was not my intention to engage in ideological battle (you'll notice I framed it as "good for your soul and peace of mind" rather than make any kind of political argument for it), I'll leave it there and not reply to any of the answers I got. But it was quite enlightening to see how people reacted to that comment. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] blackjack_ 19 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I guess to reply to the OG, Im very conservatively putting a bound on a cozy upper middle class lifestyle locally. Linus lives in Portland, Oregon. There you can comfortably live an upper middle class lifestyle on 200k or 300k. Again, conservatively take the upper bound. 1.5M >> 300k, so its more than anyone needs to live a cozy life. Technical needs are much lower, but this is a lazy mathematical proof where I prove the Linu [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] s number is bigger than a thing much higher than practical physical and emotional money needs and so dont need to strictly define them. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] In your argument case, those are all nice to haves (like much of the stuff in an upper middle class lifestyle), but it would be very difficult to argue they are necessary to live life, even at a relatively wealthy capacity. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] woodruffw 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Is it? Percentage-wise, executive compensation appears to be lower than well-regarded technology nonprofits[1][2]. In some sense that's extremely weird, since LF is a trade organization rather than a public-interest nonprofit. Their financiers are huge corporations, not individual donors! [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] (This is the core of the bigger problem with LF, IMO -- they simply don't represent non-corporate OSS interests at all, beyond some lip service.) [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [1]: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/430... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [2]: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] nextaccountic 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I'm actually more curious on why a lot of directors receive $0, while others receive almost 1M [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] wmf 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] The ones getting paid are probably working full time for LF while the unpaid ones are just on the board and presumably have other jobs. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] gregoryl 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] That seems to be correct. You can see the hours disclosure here: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] bombcar 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Directors sound like the Board, the others are Executive Directors (eg, they do the work). [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] andrekandre 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] it does fit the trend... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [0] https://www.epi.org/chart/ceopay2019-figure-a-ceo-realized-d... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] woodruffw 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Not to belabor the point, but LF is a 501(c)(6), not a 501(c)(3). They don't behave like your intuition for a public-interest nonprofit because they aren't one. You shouldn't give them your money! [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] s0ss 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Why not? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] wolttam 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] They get their money from corporate sponsors, because those sponsors benefit greatly from the existence of the Linux ecosystem. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] They don't need the contributions of individuals to keep going forever and ever. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] loeg 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] It's an industry trade association, for the benefit of its members. You aren't one of its members. (I'd suggest spending 60 seconds researching the difference between a 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(6) on wikipedia or whatever.) [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] s0ss 21 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I have, maybe you should too. Other than stating its not a 501c3, I havent heard a compelling argument. I think its OK that Linus gets paid to do what he does. Everyone here definitely benefits from this non profit organization. Its ok we see it differently. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] vkou 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] > pretty shocking [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Shockingly low. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Way more people who are doing way less good (many of them are net-negative to society by a very large margin, and we'd all be better off if they stopped going to work) for the world in corporate America make way more money. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Shit, a random L7 SWE or some low level manager makes more money than most of these people. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] pyuser583 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Im guessing its below market rates. Silicon Valley and all. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] mcv 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Surprised to learn that some guy I used to work with (Gabriele Columbro) is now apparently a very expensive executive director at the Linux Foundation. I had no idea his career took that turn. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I think it's the same guy, at least. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] walrus01 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I see a whole boatload of fairly big and important open source infrastructure projects that run on Linux. Sure, maybe 97% of its budget doesn't go directly to the linux kernel, but they're supporting a lot of critical stuff. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] ExpertAdvisor01 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Yeah like blockchain [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Gathering6678 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] The title is misleading in that it makes people think only 3% goes to Linux as a whole, while that number is about the linux kernel only. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Some other comments mention blockchain: one could argue for or against endorsing blockchain technology, but that doesn't seem to be the point of this article. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] emmelaich 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Pretty typical for a US non-(for-)profit. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] countWSS 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] What is the 181M$ mysterious "Project Support" in the graph means? Linux is labeled separately, so it cannot be the "Project". [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] themafia 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] That's revenue. This article isn't clear at all. Here's their actual tax filing: [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] More than half the money spent on Conferences and Salaries with the rest being functional expenses. Nothing in the "grants" or "benefits to members" column. Prima facie this would not be an organization I would ever donate to. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Which is good because most of their revenue comes from fees and services rendered. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] me_bx 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] The $181M is in the Expenses categories chart, not revenue. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] cortesoft 1 day ago | root | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] You arent supposed to donate to them! [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] tsoukase 12 hours ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Alternative names for Linux Foundation is Open Source foundation, User Space foundation or something totally unrelated like Future of Software foundation. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] jrflowers 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] My favorite part of this is when they say this [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] > Linus Torvalds is not in charge and is no longer compensated fairly, either. The highest paid people don't even use Linux. Torvalds is no longer in the top 10 (not anymore). [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] And then link to a filing that shows his compensation being lower than the others but also having an extra million dollars in the other column. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] It kind of looks like if you count the extra million dollars earmarked for him he would be the highest-paid person on the list? [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] feverzsj 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Still far better than most charitable funds. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] crvdgc 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Another angle is that most donations to Linux kernel are in the form of paid employees doing kernel work. I wonder how much the kernel need besides that. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] ilia-a 12 hours ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Looks like lots of grift going on. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Forgetting other categories for a moment, the fact that corp operations are nearly 2x the money going to linux kernel says it all... [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] DeathArrow 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] We need a BSD foundation. :) [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] jmclnx 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Well this is in line with the fact the LF has been quiet about these new Age Verification laws. The LF should be very vocal about how these laws will hurt Linux. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] It is almost seems like the LF wants these laws :( [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] cromka 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] They aren't going to hurt Linux at all. Desktop Linux is of little importance still. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] WhereIsTheTruth 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] 15M on corporate BS [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] 16M on event services [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] only 8M on the kernel [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Thanks for reminding me why i do not support nor respect this criminal foundation full of fraudsters [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] sourcegrift 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] As a 24 year linux user, linux foundation is cancer, they don't use linux themselves. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] siren2026 1 day ago | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I have some experience with the CNCF and oh boy is it a huge powergrab with excuse of inclusivity, wokeness and all the stuff that comes with it. Rarely seen so many self serving people that are in it for themselves as in the CNCF. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Yes, downvote away. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] wmf 1 day ago | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] I agree that LF and CNCF have serious conceptual problems but I think finances and executive comp are the least of them. This article is attacking the wrong part. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] siren2026 1 day ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Yup. The CNCF is a power grab, not a huge money grab. All those people make money other places. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] CursedSilicon 1 day ago | parent | prev | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] This isn't Reddit. If you're getting "downvoted" it's because you aren't contributing to the discussion. Bemoaning "Downvotes" is also frowned upon directly [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] notorandit 1 day ago | prev [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] What I see here is a great risk, something not immediately recognizable. A "hundreds of millions" initiative fueling a "trillions" market. I suspect that controlling the LF can lead to a really huge power over markets or, at least, a very cheap kill switch. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply" [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] "aljgz 23 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Pedantically, they're wrong, but the two are closely related. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] They both use the parent's hash together with the contents of the block/changes in the commit to compute hash of the current block/commit. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Git supports many parallel branches, while Blockchain uses decentralized consensus mechanisms to keep the entire network in agreement and resolve branches as soon as possible. So yes, the mathematical problems in the two are different, but the data structure is very similar. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Source: my last job was creating developer toolsuits for Blockchain. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] SwellJoe 17 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Y'all love to pretend blockchain is important and useful for all kinds of things. Just stop. It's shady to try to take credit for anything good in the hope that some of the goodwill rubs off on blockchain. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] Git predates Bitcoin. It is also useful and efficient, things blockchain is not. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] You cannot claim everything that uses hashes is a fucking blockchain, it's ridiculous." [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] "Feels a lot like the Mozilla Foundation which also ended to do everything but there Browser. [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] philistine 21 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] Yeah but with the Linux foundation, I read the list of things they fund and I see important projects. What is it that Mozilla does again? [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] smegger001 17 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] Lets see; a phone os no one used, and ad on installed without user permision as a tie-for a TV show, browser integration with a thirdparty bookmarking service that should have been an optional addon, a VPN, an abborted browser based video confercing service based on open standards that they killed for non obvious reasons, a bunch of social justice initiatives, an email masking/forwarding service killing their addon APIs in favor of [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] googles more limited api. [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] reply [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] walrus01 14 hours ago | root | parent | next [] [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] To be fair to the vpn product, at least they did it through a partnership with mullvad, one of the least-terrible (not even in the same ballpark as the likes of nordvpn, etc) commercial vpn service providers in existence." 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  • Linux mascot Tux the penguin hits 30 years old Linus Torvalds outlined the design of the 'slightly overweight penguin' on May 9, 1996
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  • Linux mascot Tux the penguin hits 30 years old Linus Torvalds outlined the design of the 'slightly overweight penguin' on May 9, 1996
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  • Linux mascot Tux the penguin hits 30 years old Linus Torvalds outlined the design of the 'slightly overweight penguin' on May 9, 1996
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  • Linux mascot Tux the penguin hits 30 years old Linus Torvalds outlined the design of the 'slightly overweight penguin' on May 9, 1996
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    • [12:42] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tomshardware.com | Linux mascot Tux the penguin hits 30 years old Linus Torvalds outlined the design of the 'slightly overweight penguin' on May 9, 1996 | Tom's Hardware ● May 10 [14:21] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:38] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@atu2uhbvxaeyw.irc) has joined #techbytes [14:41] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:45] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@atu2uhbvxaeyw.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 10 [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] > It may also be worth contrasting the high standards and holistic [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] > approach reflected in the EPOs digital transformation and Strategic [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] > Planboth deserving of praisewith the apparent lack of equally high [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] > standards and a holistic approach when it comes to top management [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] > behaviour and accountability. [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] We are now focusing some more on software patents as well. [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] The aim is to improve lawfulness. [15:43] schestowitz[TR2] < but Ill be back once Im healed up! Im [15:43] schestowitz[TR2] > thankful for my family, and honestly just to know the [15:43] schestowitz[TR2] > pain wasnt all in my head this whole time, but I would [15:43] schestowitz[TR2] > really appreciate yalls prayers as I get ready for surgery [15:43] schestowitz[TR2] > in a few weeks. [15:43] schestowitz[TR2] You are still younger than us. In perspective, even one year "battling it out" is not much; you'll come back stronger. I plan to promote your efforts once I catch up with urgent backlog re patents, SLAPPs etc. ● May 10 [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> "Carole Cadwalladr: This is what a digital coup looks like | TED Talk" [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> https://www.ted.com/talks/ [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> carole_cadwalladr_this_is_what_a_digital_coup_looks_like [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> = [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> "Carole Cadwalladr: Facebook's role in Brexit and the threat to [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> democracy | TED Talk" [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> https://www.ted.com/talks/ [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] >> carole_cadwalladr_facebook_s_role_in_brexit_and_the_threat_to_democracy [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] > [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] > Also, note that the contents of the second URL were censored. The [16:12] schestowitz[TR2] > original is still somewhere though. Link to that, please. [16:12] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 308 @ https://www.ted.com/talks/ ) [16:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes ● May 10 [17:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kr4jq0y8#replies [17:47] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kr4jq0y8#replies ) [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] " ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!no my little Indian intern. Were just getting started. When youve been here for more than a year dealing with the mental abuse from this garbage executive team who care more about shareholders and their own payouts than they do the people who actually make this company run, the youll begin to understand. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 27 minutes ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | no reactions | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @jb+1kr4jq0y8 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] +2 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] @hx You seem increasingly agitated. Is your corporate sponsor getting impatient with your inability to quell the ranks? [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @j1+1kr4jq0y8 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] -4 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] @ht [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Wrong and wrong. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] These are my words. I am not from India. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Also the hate and racism you are spewing is disgusting. You are dehumanizing people. Mr Gerstner would be sick to his stomach seeing what hateful people some of you have become. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | 4 reactions (+0/-4) | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @hx+1kr4jq0y8 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] +4 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] I cut and pasted comments, from @er @hs @d5 @aw @d4, all messages I suspect are written by the same being, into multiple AI engines, ChatGPT, ...., I asked the simple question: What is the country of origin of the author ? [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] The answer was unanimous: INDIA. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] So little Indian, go back to your little shithole and stop being a pest. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Indians are like a termite infestation [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 3 hours ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @ht+1kr4jq0y8 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] -3 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] @fe [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] No, I am pointing out how ridiculous some of you sound. Comparing monitoring websites and who is going to the office as Knot-Zee Germany. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Mr Gerstner would be appalled to see what is being posted here [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 3 hours ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | 3 reactions (+0/-3) | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @hs+1kr4jq0y8 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] -2 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] @gm [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] I am not from India and I am not a bootlicker. Why is so much animosity and negativity being spewed here ? [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 3 hours ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+0/-2) | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @hr+1kr4jq0y8 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] +2 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] @ew "no credibility" [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Pot kettle black you corporate shill. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 4 hours ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @hm+1kr4jq0y8 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] +3 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Out little Indian intern will be a boot l1cker right up until the day hes RAed. [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 9 hours ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | 3 reactions (+3/-0) | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @gm+1kr4jq0y8 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] +5 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Left IBM few years back and realized its abusive and rigged system. They preach fairiness and ethics but reality is they dont practice what they preach. I only saw it or understood it after seeing how it really is suppose to work at another place [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] " [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kr24aeev#replies [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] " [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Serious question: where do people file complaints then? Is there an email? [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] 1 hour ago by Anonymous [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] | no reactions | Reply [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @pd+1kr24aeev [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] +3 [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] @jc because the executive team $ucks [17:47] schestowitz[TR2] " [17:49] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kr24aeev#replies ) ● May 10 [18:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes [18:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 10 [19:01] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@yu29f4abyrsnc.irc) has joined #techbytes ● May 10 [21:54] *psydroid3 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/)