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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1226997904012988420Feb 11 02:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Tall Tales From the Land of EPOnia: Indications of High-Level Club Med/EUIPO “Entryism” #patents #Europe #Nepotism https://t.co/m71TyfJRvmFeb 11 02:41
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schestowitz__"Because he is a member of the Establishment. And the defining characteristic of an Establishment, is not that it is conservative, but that it knows how to survive."Feb 11 02:52
schestowitz__http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/gantry-gate-have-your-say-in-mercer.html?showComment=1581349084825#c8596885033777732884Feb 11 02:52
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Gantry-Gate: Have your say in the Mercer Review - The IPKatFeb 11 02:52
schestowitz__http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/gantry-gate-have-your-say-in-mercer.html?showComment=1581345251529#c2021107879937931905Feb 11 02:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Gantry-Gate: Have your say in the Mercer Review - The IPKatFeb 11 02:53
schestowitz__"Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__"Why do you think they would cheat."Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__I say again: where people can cheat, they will. This does not mean that everyone cheats, but you will inevitably get enough doing it to call the entire exercise into question.Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__And I say this based on my experiences at university, both teaching and studying. You would not believe how often I saw people try to cheat in exams, or to turn in papers that they had not written - and they did so because (in the context I working in at the time) they did not expect anyone to check.Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__Pearl-clutching about basic facts of human nature gets us nowhere.Feb 11 02:53
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schestowitz__http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/gantry-gate-have-your-say-in-mercer.html?showComment=1581358115172#c3311276177285305974Feb 11 02:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Gantry-Gate: Have your say in the Mercer Review - The IPKatFeb 11 02:53
schestowitz__"Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__"Pearl-clutching about basic facts of human nature gets us nowhere."Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__Harsh but true. The basic premise - make it easier to cheat and more people will cheat - is simply true. I don't think Gilman is being disrespectful in the slightest.Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__Coursework vs exams for raising standards is a broad question that could surely be answered by asking an education expert. Coursework in general has a reputation for lowering standards, but presumably there are some data somewhere?Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__"Feb 11 02:53
schestowitz__http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/02/gantry-gate-have-your-say-in-mercer.html?showComment=1581361839141#c2302748755540839170Feb 11 02:58
schestowitz__"The point Anonymous is making I believe is that EQEs are far more important than UK exams for qualification and daily practice. So emphasis should be placed more on EQEs. "Feb 11 02:58
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Gantry-Gate: Have your say in the Mercer Review - The IPKatFeb 11 02:58
schestowitz__"Feb 11 02:58
schestowitz__Why pay for an in depth review and then completely ignore it.Feb 11 02:58
schestowitz__I fear the same thing will happen again with this review.Feb 11 02:58
schestowitz__"Feb 11 02:58
schestowitz__"Feb 11 02:58
schestowitz__Why would Chris Mercer advocate anything other than the status quo. He is a tutor on the FD4 JDD course, a course which is sold on the basis that it teaches you how to pass the exam (not become proficient in I&V analysis).Feb 11 02:58
schestowitz__The head examiner of FD4 is also a JDD tutor.Feb 11 02:58
schestowitz__This whole review stinks. Seriously, who at CIPA thought it was a good idea to put a JDD tutor in charge of a review with a board/panel that includes PEB examiners?Feb 11 02:59
schestowitz__"Feb 11 02:59
schestowitz__"Yes, let's put all our eggs in a single, European basket. I mean, what could possibly go wrong? (*glances at the news*)"Feb 11 02:59
schestowitz__"Feb 11 02:59
schestowitz__You make no sense.Feb 11 02:59
schestowitz__You say where people can cheat they will, but then you acknowledge that not everyone cheats even though they have the opportunity to, so clearly not everyone that can cheat does.Feb 11 02:59
schestowitz__You say exams are the answer to cheating, but then you say you cant believe how often you saw people trying to cheat in exams.Feb 11 02:59
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schestowitz__"Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__I wonder if the lack of diversity at top management level in PEB/CIPA has made it more difficult to change things. Is this why they are so resistant to change. No new views, news thinking, new & more modern culture being taken on board at a high level.Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__This month, IP inclusive released report showing how bad diversity is in the profession.Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__"Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__I don't believe the current FD4 exam is working. Far too much to do it little time given. Coursework option sounds ideal to me. "Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__"Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__I disagree with Gilman profoundly. We need to stop all this nonsense that candidates want to cheat.Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__As a qualified attorney myself, I would never want to encourage cheating so to call everybody a cheat because they want change is terrible. Its probably one of the reasons why this profession is so backwards compared to other established professions such as accountancy, where fellow professions there are more open to change.Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__We can't even agree to do the exams on computers. Even A levels and GCSE who have thousands of students taking the exams now have the capabilities to set these exams on computers. So backwards.Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__I want robust assessments and I'm up for changing the exam system. Whether its coursework or reduce content in the exam, something must be done because I am fed up of this non-action from CIPA/PEB.Feb 11 03:03
schestowitz__"Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__"Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__Here is the reportFeb 11 03:04
schestowitz__https://ipinclusive.org.uk/diversity-data-for-the-ip-sector/Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__Key outcomesFeb 11 03:04
schestowitz__The “bigger picture” points that we can draw out from the survey results are these:Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__The IP professions as a whole include a reasonable proportion of women.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__However, the proportion is significantly lower in senior private sector roles, and among IP barristers, IP Office employees and patent attorneys, and higher among trade mark attorneys and in so-called “supporting” roles such as IP paralegals, secretaries and business support professionals.Feb 11 03:04
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipinclusive.org.uk | Diversity data for the IP sector - IP InclusiveFeb 11 03:04
schestowitz__We have very low levels of ethnic diversity, being at present mainly white.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__This does, however, appear to be improving among newer recruits.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__We have a reasonable level of diversity in terms of sexuality, compared to the overall UK population.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__Many non-heterosexuals are, however, unable to be “out” in the workplace, and free text comments suggest that there are still improvements to be made in our sector’s understanding and acceptance of less “conventional” forms of sexuality and gender identity.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__In terms of social mobility, the IP professions do not appear to be as bad as we might have feared. The responses show that it is – or at least has been – possible to access the sector from less privileged backgrounds.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__The percentage of Oxbridge and other Russell Group graduates appears to be higher in the private sector, and among more senior respondents, and also – perhaps worryingly – among newer recruits, than it is for the overall survey cohort.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__We have very low proportions of disabled people and of carers for disabled people.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__Moreover, many of our disabled professionals feel unable to tell their employers about their conditions.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__IP professionals who are not currently members of one of the so-called “minority” groups appear less likely to engage with a diversity assessment exercise.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__This highlights one of the most difficult – but also the most important – aspects of persuading more people on board: that those who enjoy the most privileges do not always appreciate the importance of levelling the playing field.Feb 11 03:04
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schestowitz__Having read the document, it is clear Middlesex Report is very damning about the PEB exams in general and especially FD4. Most of the recommendations were taken on board. The PEB should provide a full explanation as to why the outcome of this report was not fully implemented.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__Taking bits from it and say that you've adhered to the report is incorrect and present a false image that PEB has actually taken all points on board.Feb 11 03:04
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schestowitz__"Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__Fine then - select random (or all) candidates to be interviewed about the work they submitted. If they did not write it, a few probing questions will quickly identify that. PhD vivas are something a lot of candidates and examiners will have experience with and lends itself well to such a process.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__No doubt the next concern will be that candidates will be coached to answer the interview questions. In practice this is nonsense. You can't coach someone to do advocacy on specific facts; they must prepare for this themselves.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__Then it will be candidates will have secret ear pieces wired back to their cheating partners in crime. FD4 passing factories will be set up in foreign countries to undermine UK qualification. Where does it end?Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__There is a trend in this debate to dismiss any potential alternatives for supposedly insurmountable difficulties.Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__In reality, it is just an argument for the status quo in disguise. Fair enough, lets stick with the status quo to the extent that FD4 remains as a written examination. Is there any conceivable way in your mind that the exam can be improved that addresses the numerous concerns that have been raised? Or as do we just ignore legitimate concerns over the exam and hope the problem goes away?Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__"Feb 11 03:04
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/mektronik/status/1227145280182738945Feb 11 09:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@mektronik: @schestowitz Oy veyFeb 11 09:28
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/RenatoLFC64/status/1227113094402408448Feb 11 09:29
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@RenatoLFC64: @schestowitz @ManUtd @MarcusRashford was it though?Feb 11 09:29
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1227080389769953280Feb 11 09:30
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: @jhamby @schestowitz Yup.Feb 11 09:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/michaellarabel/status/1226938570058977280Feb 11 09:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@michaellarabel: @schestowitz Just put it in the premium-only section of the forums to proactively avoid those who create burner acc… https://t.co/xDaCKSv4U3Feb 11 09:32
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@michaellarabel: @schestowitz Just put it in the premium-only section of the forums to proactively avoid those who create burner acc… https://t.co/xDaCKSv4U3Feb 11 09:32
schestowitz__thanks, that makes a lot of senseFeb 11 09:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1227074284247367680Feb 11 09:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz Yeah, Sanders didn’t win by a landslide. Not everything has to be a truther-style conspi… https://t.co/hwRGsZkAcfFeb 11 09:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: @BrideOfLinux @schestowitz Yeah, Sanders didn’t win by a landslide. Not everything has to be a truther-style conspi… https://t.co/hwRGsZkAcfFeb 11 09:33
schestowitz__"Feb 11 09:33
schestowitz__Yeah, Sanders didn’t win by a landslide. Not everything has to be a truther-style conspiracy.Feb 11 09:33
schestowitz__The real conspiracy was Obama-Clinton campaign veterans getting a contract to make a shoddy app that didn’t work right because they were so inexperienced & agreed to a foolish deadline.Feb 11 09:33
schestowitz__"Feb 11 09:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1227073415644880896Feb 11 09:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz That might make sense if it weren't a caucus. As it was, we saw plenty of live coverage from within ma… https://t.co/bu698q8s0zFeb 11 09:33
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@BrideOfLinux: @schestowitz That might make sense if it weren't a caucus. As it was, we saw plenty of live coverage from within ma… https://t.co/bu698q8s0zFeb 11 09:33
schestowitz__"That might make sense if it weren't a caucus. As it was, we saw plenty of live coverage from within many of the caucus locations, and what we saw wasn't Sanders winning by a landslide. What we did see was Biden getting many fewer votes than the polls had indicated."Feb 11 09:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/AndreaAlbion/status/1227018931325591554Feb 11 09:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AndreaAlbion: @schestowitz @Snowden I heard on RT last year that Snowden's permit would not be renewed because he had spent his s… https://t.co/pQjXIoyoqUFeb 11 09:34
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@AndreaAlbion: @schestowitz @Snowden I heard on RT last year that Snowden's permit would not be renewed because he had spent his s… https://t.co/pQjXIoyoqUFeb 11 09:34
schestowitz__"I heard on RT last year that Snowden's permit would not be renewed because he had spent his stay criticising the Russian government.  I think he's a bit of a jerk.  He has said publicly he didn't WANT to go to Russia, only got stuck there.  No manners.|Feb 11 09:34
schestowitz__ #Sanders Team Seeks Recanvass https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/09/us/politics/iowa-caucuses-democrats.htmlFeb 11 09:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.nytimes.com | Iowa Democrats Give Buttigieg the Most Delegates as Sanders Team Seeks Recanvass - The New York TimesFeb 11 09:36
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/colin_goodayle/status/1226996952476372992Feb 11 09:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@colin_goodayle: @schestowitz @carolehope2 @Snowden Quite. Mr. Assange would have been better served by entering the Russian embassy… https://t.co/abGEpIJkoBFeb 11 09:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@colin_goodayle: @schestowitz @carolehope2 @Snowden Quite. Mr. Assange would have been better served by entering the Russian embassy… https://t.co/abGEpIJkoBFeb 11 09:37
schestowitz__"Quite. Mr. Assange would have been better served by entering the Russian embassy in London. It's inconceivable that he'd have been removed."Feb 11 09:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JanRavensbergen/status/1226995585934331904Feb 11 09:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@JanRavensbergen: #ICYMI https://t.co/LU9vJaLnYNFeb 11 09:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: In Re-Run Election: #LATimes Journalist Wins Presidency of #NewsGuild  https://t.co/0HldNixGj5Feb 11 09:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1226989071379025920Feb 11 09:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: Very few people really choose Windows, but it’s silly and incorrect to say that people are being used by Microsoft… https://t.co/jhM8AVG3NGFeb 11 09:37
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: Very few people really choose Windows, but it’s silly and incorrect to say that people are being used by Microsoft… https://t.co/jhM8AVG3NGFeb 11 09:37
schestowitz__"Feb 11 09:37
schestowitz__Jake Hamby Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 11 09:37
schestowitz__Very few people really choose Windows, but it’s silly and incorrect to say that people are being used by Microsoft parasitically, going about their daily lives.Feb 11 09:37
schestowitz__"Feb 11 09:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/1226989629686964225Feb 11 09:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: Windows is a terrible OS, but weaning the masses off of it is going to require finesse, not insulting people and ca… https://t.co/rFmRNLZeXqFeb 11 09:38
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jhamby: Windows is a terrible OS, but weaning the masses off of it is going to require finesse, not insulting people and ca… https://t.co/rFmRNLZeXqFeb 11 09:38
schestowitz__"Feb 11 09:38
schestowitz__Windows is a terrible OS, but weaning the masses off of it is going to require finesse, not insulting people and calling them suckers for going about their daily lives using the OS that came on their computers.Feb 11 09:38
schestowitz__Personally, their “telemetry” is low on my list of Win10 complaints.Feb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__ Jake Hamby‏ @jhamby  12h12 hours agoFeb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__ The funny thing is that Windows is good enough that a lot of people I know well don’t ever complain about it. They would laugh at me if I told them that Microsoft was “using” them.Feb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__ railmeat‏ @railmeat  4h4 hours agoFeb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__Replying to @jhambyFeb 11 09:38
schestowitz__I keep wanting Linux to be a good operating system, but it just isn’t. At least not for my uses. It’s good as a server, but not a desktop.Feb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__ railmeat‏ @railmeat  4h4 hours agoFeb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__Replying to @jhambyFeb 11 09:38
schestowitz__I chose Windows. After I broke my MacBook Pro by spilling water on it Windows was definitely my choice. At least until I can get money to repair the Mac.Feb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__ Devin Hermanson‏ @devinher  4h4 hours agoFeb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__ Why? Was it just cost?Feb 11 09:38
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schestowitz__New conversationFeb 11 09:39
schestowitz__ railmeat‏ @railmeat  4h4 hours agoFeb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__Replying to @jhambyFeb 11 09:39
schestowitz__Windows 10 on a Thinkpad Carbon X is actually pretty reasonable.Feb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__ Jake Hamby‏ @jhamby  4h4 hours agoFeb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__ That’s my point. Windows does work. People are happily going about their day using it. The NSA secret police aren’t poring over the telemetry data that’s coming back about what screen resolution people are using and what version of buggy graphics driver they have. It’s mundane.Feb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__ Jake Hamby‏ @jhamby  4h4 hours agoFeb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__ I just think it’s objectively delusional to act as if people who use Windows on a daily basis for work and entertainment are somehow being cheated or manipulated or something, beyond the original unfairness of Linux not having been given a chance to thrive 20 to 25 years ago.Feb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__ Jake Hamby‏ @jhamby  4h4 hours agoFeb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__ It just doesn’t matter to most people. They only complain when things aren’t working. Windows 10 isn’t some big drain or burden on productivity to the world. It just isn’t. Bad software is. Bad Windows & macOS software would be bad Linux software if it had been written for Linux.Feb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__ Jake Hamby‏ @jhamby  4h4 hours agoFeb 11 09:39
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schestowitz__ Android faced a problem for a long time where it was more difficult to write good apps than it was for iOS because you had to manage more details. That’s largely been taken care of now. Linux still has too many distros to be seen as a single market. It’s kind of a mess, still.Feb 11 09:39
schestowitz__"Feb 11 09:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/CFCVik/status/1226983443990536193Feb 11 09:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@CFCVik: @schestowitz @ManUtd @MarcusRashford OhFeb 11 09:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1226950619635777542Feb 11 09:39
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz They have shadow written too many laws already...Feb 11 09:39
schestowitz__Unfortunately not, see my last e-mail and my tweets.Feb 11 11:22
schestowitz__I will check and think what to do next.Feb 11 11:22
schestowitz__quote ^^Feb 11 11:22
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/cherry_ives/status/1227191624784019457Feb 11 12:24
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@cherry_ives: A lengthy read on witnessing and observation. Somewhere in a future history you Catherine Fitts and you Scott Adams… https://t.co/pOJMOq0rsYFeb 11 12:24
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@cherry_ives: A lengthy read on witnessing and observation. Somewhere in a future history you Catherine Fitts and you Scott Adams… https://t.co/pOJMOq0rsYFeb 11 12:24
schestowitz__"Feb 11 12:24
schestowitz__Richard Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 11 12:24
schestowitz__A lengthy read on witnessing and observation. Somewhere in a future history you Catherine Fitts and you Scott Adams will have provided many artifacts @TheSolariReport  @ScottAdamsSaysFeb 11 12:25
schestowitz__"Feb 11 12:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kisakacaleb/status/1227188973178630145Feb 11 12:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kisakacaleb: @CFCVik @schestowitz @ManUtd @MarcusRashford It ended in tearsFeb 11 12:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/patrickmagonus/status/1227185453868163072Feb 11 12:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@patrickmagonus: @schestowitz bunch of weirdosFeb 11 12:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/MSServices_info/status/1227174060150394882Feb 11 12:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MSServices_info: @petrasorge @patcrit @IPProMagazine @kierenmccarthy @etuc_ces @dan_kersch @MarcAngel_lu @FranzFayot @SenateurRYung… https://t.co/riabXZ8GglFeb 11 12:25
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MSServices_info: @petrasorge @patcrit @IPProMagazine @kierenmccarthy @etuc_ces @dan_kersch @MarcAngel_lu @FranzFayot @SenateurRYung… https://t.co/riabXZ8GglFeb 11 12:25
schestowitz__" @etuc_ces @dan_kersch @MarcAngel_lu @FranzFayot @SenateurRYung @claudinelepage @PhilipCordery @VivianeRedingEU @Sheikh_al_Touar @schestowitz @USF12152717 #work #Austerity #reform #patents #Europe #Germany #Netherlands #Austria"Feb 11 12:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Trolluh/status/1227171022136336385Feb 11 12:26
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Trolluh: @schestowitz Hitler said something similarFeb 11 12:26
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1227217234667417607Feb 11 13:28
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Sometimes ILO-AT is Good for Nothing But Law Firms in or Around Switzerland #law #Court #patents #Europe https://t.co/QjrIRu3Q3rFeb 11 13:28
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