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schestowitz> Hi,Oct 11 00:37
schestowitz>Oct 11 00:37
schestowitz> I thought I should submit something to TechRights,  seeing as it hasOct 11 00:37
schestowitz> been a while.  I hope it fits well.  The piece is more of a manifestoOct 11 00:37
schestowitz> than an "ethos", but I did not want to use the word "manifesto" since itOct 11 00:37
schestowitz> is so closely linked to the RMS origin of the concepts here, and I haveOct 11 00:37
schestowitz> no desire to be given that close a connection.Oct 11 00:37
schestowitz>Oct 11 00:37
schestowitz> Here is the plain text inline, with a formatted copy (with italics,Oct 11 00:37
schestowitz> etc.) attached.Oct 11 00:37
schestowitzThanks, I'm done at work in 20 minutes. Then I'm free and can work on the site.Oct 11 00:37
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schestowitz>> I already publicly ridiculed the above linkOct 11 13:59
schestowitz>Oct 11 13:59
schestowitz> oh, niceOct 11 13:59
schestowitzThere's lots more revisionism in there, so it's a bit amusing to me...Oct 11 13:59
schestowitz> Tom's new article, really good stuff-- I assume he has sent it or willOct 11 13:59
schestowitz> soon. Found one spelling error; had a difficult time finding anyOct 11 13:59
schestowitz> critique through the worst of nitpicking. Obviously that isn't aOct 11 13:59
schestowitz> critique; on the contrary.Oct 11 13:59
schestowitzi probably found, caught, corrected that same typo.Oct 11 13:59
schestowitz> This is the one:Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>> Hi,Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>> If there is time maybe we can reword the sentence:Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>> Realization that the central nature of the "Freedom"  which isOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>> attached to Free Software resides in the participation of theOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>> community should impact upon the design and character of the codingOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>> itself.Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> big thumbs up!Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> scrutinised, proofread, found one sentence that was very difficult toOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> parse:Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> > The realization that the central nature of the Freedom attached toOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> Free Software resides in the participation of the community impactsOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> upon the design and features of the coding itself.Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> i managed to separate it like this:Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> > The realization thatOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> > the central nature of the Freedom attached to Free Software residesOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> in the participation of the communityOct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:01
schestowitz>>> > impacts upon the design and features of the coding itself.Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> i am still not certain i parsed it correctly. however, youOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> immediately clarify the meaning after that line.Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> and "reciprocol" should be "reciprocal".Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> these are incredibly minor, essentially insignificant things. iOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> expected to be pleased but i tried very hard to find fault, and cameOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> up with next to nothing. anytime i thought i "gotcha", you went andOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> gracefully saved it. and this is at my height of nitpickiness, whereOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> im even trying to imagine someone taking something in the oppositeOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> way of which it was intended. its the bastard lawyer dna in me, thatOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> comes from fuck knows where.Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> i will wait for techrights to publish this, but i would like toOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> mirror it (and of course its cc0) my real gripe is that not enoughOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> people are saying the sorts of things it says-- would that there wereOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> more who did. a woman of the most average features could read it in aOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> whisper and find me most malleable after the fact.Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>>Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> im a fan! although i believe the thrive guidelines could help withOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> actual software projects, i definitely would hope that they couldOct 11 14:02
schestowitz>>> also lead to the sort of conversation youre having with this. cheers.Oct 11 14:02
schestowitz> Yes don't worry mate, easily done, weather's gonna be quite cold nextOct 11 14:18
schestowitz> few months so we can sort something in the new year.Oct 11 14:18
schestowitz>> i probably found, caught, corrected that same typo.Oct 11 14:21
schestowitz>Oct 11 14:21
schestowitz> You did, and a good service it was. The typo was as minor as it couldOct 11 14:21
schestowitz> be, but it was a small blemish on something nearly perfect, and it helpsOct 11 14:21
schestowitz> when those are caught and fixed even if they are far from the mostOct 11 14:21
schestowitz> important thing (let alone the point.)Oct 11 14:21
schestowitzI am working on your CoC findings/piece...Oct 11 14:21
schestowitz>> I am working on your CoC findings/piece...Oct 11 15:43
schestowitz>Oct 11 15:43
schestowitz> Feel free to use only the best parts.Oct 11 15:43
schestowitzBest if condensed in fewer but longer emails. You're flooding my inbox lately and I cannot see things the 'alta vista' way... just a big pile of one liners. Which is a lot harder.Oct 11 15:43
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