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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/reg_nerd/status/1204172088501776385Dec 11 05:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@reg_nerd: @zoobab @FFII @schestowitz a ratification and immunity for the UPC? wouldn‘t this offer the option the complain to… https://t.co/SwkqMPwCVsDec 11 05:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@reg_nerd: @zoobab @FFII @schestowitz a ratification and immunity for the UPC? wouldn‘t this offer the option the complain to… https://t.co/SwkqMPwCVsDec 11 05:15
schestowitz"a ratification and immunity for the UPC? wouldn‘t this offer the option the complain to COM over belgium violating democratic principles and thus eu treaties. Or a more direct path over local courts to ECJ"Dec 11 05:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/reg_nerd/status/1204193032410730497Dec 11 05:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@reg_nerd: @zoobab @FFII @schestowitz yes, UPC is not part of the european acquis, it's outside. That's why the delegated acts… https://t.co/iIKbqd1tPfDec 11 05:16
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@reg_nerd: @zoobab @FFII @schestowitz yes, UPC is not part of the european acquis, it's outside. That's why the delegated acts… https://t.co/iIKbqd1tPfDec 11 05:16
schestowitz"yes, UPC is not part of the european acquis, it's outside. That's why the delegated acts are so dangerous as the UPC is not bound by the patent exceptions within EU law. Been there, protested that. Patent clusters, not clusterfucks.."Dec 11 05:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/dimitris_xenos/status/1204334321244483585Dec 11 05:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dimitris_xenos: Demonstration against Unitary Software #Patents, Thursday 12 December in Brussels #unitarypatent… https://t.co/qYmwoLQz8cDec 11 05:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@dimitris_xenos: Demonstration against Unitary Software #Patents, Thursday 12 December in Brussels #unitarypatent… https://t.co/qYmwoLQz8cDec 11 05:19
schestowitz"Demonstration against Unitary Software #Patents, Thursday 12 December in Brussels #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt http://blog.ffii.org/manifestation-contre-le-brevet-logiciel-unitaire-jeudi-12-decembre-a-bruxelles/ … (17 points of concern, in French) - http://blog.ffii.org/demonstration-against-unitary-software-patents-thursday-12-dec-in-brussels/ … (summary, en)"Dec 11 05:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.ffii.org | Manifestation contre le Brevet Logiciel Unitaire, jeudi 12 décembre à Bruxelles | Blog.FFII.orgDec 11 05:19
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.ffii.org | Demonstration against Unitary Software Patents thursday 12 dec in Brussels | Blog.FFII.orgDec 11 05:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MSServices_info/status/1204151928462163970Dec 11 05:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MSServices_info: #nosoftwarepatents #stopsoftwarepatents #protest #demo #Brussels #Brussel #Bruxelles #Europe #Europa… https://t.co/GeAsuBGNfiDec 11 05:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MSServices_info: #nosoftwarepatents #stopsoftwarepatents #protest #demo #Brussels #Brussel #Bruxelles #Europe #Europa… https://t.co/GeAsuBGNfiDec 11 05:21
schestowitz"#nosoftwarepatents #stopsoftwarepatents #protest #demo #Brussels #Brussel #Bruxelles #Europe #Europa http://nosoftwarepatents.wikidot.com/swpat  https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1204147458877644804 … pic.twitter.com/4B3d9Flc23"Dec 11 05:21
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-nosoftwarepatents.wikidot.com | No Software patents - No Software PatentsDec 11 05:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Demonstration Against Unitary Software Patents, Thursday 12 Dec in Brussels #protest #swpat #demonstration… https://t.co/yussgopYhGDec 11 05:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Demonstration Against Unitary Software Patents, Thursday 12 Dec in Brussels #protest #swpat #demonstration… https://t.co/yussgopYhGDec 11 05:22
schestowitz> I made a quick shell script for the IRC post.  It seems to link ok,Dec 11 06:02
schestowitz> based on the 2019-12-10 logs.Dec 11 06:02
schestowitz>Dec 11 06:02
schestowitz> Are the IRC logs generated and uploaded automatically?  If so then IDec 11 06:02
schestowitz> could try to find a way to automate the script.Dec 11 06:02
schestowitzI run the job manually some time after midnight. To upload I just enter the password and can see everything went OK.Dec 11 06:02
schestowitzIt looks like this:Dec 11 06:02
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131424Dec 11 06:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tuxmachines.org | Using Menus For Command Line Programs and Scripts | Tux MachinesDec 11 06:02
schestowitzThe logging is done on my machine, hence it needs to be uploaded from here. Do you want to enter IRC and log from your side as well? We have backups and other fail-safe mechanisms, inc. logging by the bot from the TR VM and another bot in Canada. Rianne logs on her machine when she's online, but it's the same connection, so not a good redundancy source.Dec 11 06:02
schestowitzFor command line, compare to:Dec 11 06:02
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schestowitz    IRCAGE=$iDec 11 06:02
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schestowitz>>> Should I renew membership in the FSF?Dec 11 06:18
schestowitz>>>Dec 11 06:18
schestowitz>>> If not, I will spend the money on various other projectsDec 11 06:18
schestowitz>> I'd say (IMHO), save the money, use that to help cushion our work onDec 11 06:18
schestowitz>> Techrights. We both give lots of time and resources to it and sometimesDec 11 06:18
schestowitz>> we do a better job than the FSF... in some aspects.Dec 11 06:18
schestowitz> I've kept some aside for now but indirectly supported TR.Dec 11 06:18
schestowitz>Dec 11 06:18
schestowitz> The FSF is selling tweets and such.  So if I had money to burn I wouldDec 11 06:18
schestowitz> have given to the FSF at a level where they would have to publish praiseDec 11 06:18
schestowitz> of RMS in their social control media channels.Dec 11 06:18
schestowitz>Dec 11 06:18
schestowitz> However, since I use the Internet Archive a lot, and TR depends on itDec 11 06:18
schestowitz> more than a little, they got most of the money this year.  It turns outDec 11 06:18
schestowitz> they currently have 2:1 matching going on at this time too.  They askedDec 11 06:18
schestowitz> why I donated.  So I included mention of the FSF and their mistreatmentDec 11 06:18
schestowitz> of RMS, in addition to the several major archival reasons and theDec 11 06:18
schestowitz> excellent work the IA does.Dec 11 06:19
schestowitzIs there any substantial material about FSF selling tweets? I have not noticed such a thing.Dec 11 06:19
schestowitzRe: jaromil liked itDec 11 06:21
schestowitz> afaik, dyne.org is the only org that put out an OFFICIAL statement in defense of stallman. both our groups put out unofficial statements in his defense. you may quibble that yours was official, disputing that isnt the point im here to make-- if you say it was official, it might as well be.Dec 11 06:21
schestowitz>Dec 11 06:21
schestowitz> the claim that only dyne.org did this isnt from dyne, its from free software force i believe. but the point is: big props to dyne. i dont feel terrible that our statements were articles, our defenses were reasonable.Dec 11 06:21
schestowitz>Dec 11 06:21
schestowitz> its important because there was a time (when i thought the "fsf" had a future) that i was keeping track of the best post-stallman president. and mako (wth happened?) and oliva were major candidates. with oliva i worried about geography and previous loyalties... with mako i worried about his open source friends. i guess those were good worries.Dec 11 06:21
schestowitz>Dec 11 06:21
schestowitz> point is, i dont care who is president of the former software foundation, but if i did, denis roio (who was always in the top 5) would be higher up now. over oliva. so the fact that he thought the fifth freedom (as written) is "brilliant" is a huge effing deal indeed. im sorry to say that i dont know anything about this boughtonp fellow, except he is from the uk, and he is not an alias (that i am aware of. i honestly dont know him.)Dec 11 06:21
schestowitz>Dec 11 06:21
schestowitz> i give up on oliva. you can take him out of red hat, you cant take red hat out of him. i have no use for him at all, and i wont trust him again. its alright if im wrong, but the trust issue is personal and i refuse to do that again.Dec 11 06:21
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schestowitzhttps://quillette.com/2019/12/10/mark-zuckerberg-and-the-changing-civil-rights-movement/Dec 11 06:23
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schestowitzhttps://www.theverge.com/2019/12/10/21004846/microsoft-office-linux-microsoft-teams-app-launch-public-previewDec 11 06:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-quillette.com | Mark Zuckerberg and the Changing Civil Rights Movement - QuilletteDec 11 06:23
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.theverge.com | Microsoft’s first Office app arrives on Linux - The VergeDec 11 06:23
schestowitz                    <li>Dec 11 06:26
schestowitz                      <h5><a href="https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/slimbook-pro2-kubuntu-combat-report-11.html">Slimbook &amp; Kubuntu - Combat Report 11</a></h5>Dec 11 06:26
schestowitz                      <blockquote>Dec 11 06:26
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/slimbook-pro2-kubuntu-combat-report-11.html">Slimbook )Dec 11 06:26
schestowitz                        <p>It's been a while since I've done one of my Slimbook CRs. Well, I've sort of run out of things to complain, but also new features that I can meaningfully test. Not to worry! New experiences, new opportunities, and once again, a new article is upon us, with fresh real-life challenges. They are out there, it just takes a bit of time finding the extra use cases. </p>Dec 11 06:26
schestowitz                        <p> For those of you wondering what gives, about a year back I bought a Slimbook Pro2, installed Kubuntu on it, and since started writing about my real-life, no-nonsense production-environment experiences using Linux in a way most people consume Windows, which have culminated in some ten reports so far. Well, to get up to speed, grab the last one, and then work your way back. Now, let's continue.</p></blockquote></li>Dec 11 06:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/miguelcarvajalm/status/1204794890376372226Dec 11 17:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@miguelcarvajalm: You Know #WSL is Bad for #GNU/#Linux Because #AntiLinux People, Microsoft and Its #Propagandists, Want People to Us… https://t.co/GTTkzWATEHDec 11 17:35
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@miguelcarvajalm: You Know #WSL is Bad for #GNU/#Linux Because #AntiLinux People, Microsoft and Its #Propagandists, Want People to Us… https://t.co/GTTkzWATEHDec 11 17:35
schestowitz"You Know #WSL is Bad for #GNU/#Linux Because #AntiLinux People, Microsoft and Its #Propagandists, Want People to Use That"Dec 11 17:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1204827760193155072Dec 11 18:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Demonstration Against Unitary Software Patents, Thursday 12 Dec in #Brussels #Protest #Belgium #patents #Europe https://t.co/fYbsZJd73jDec 11 18:22
schestowitzDemonstration Against Unitary Software Patents, Thursday 12 Dec in #Brussels #Protest #Belgium #patents #Europe""Dec 11 18:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Demonstration Against Unitary Software Patents, Thursday 12 Dec in Brussels | TechrightsDec 11 18:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1204827321280192515Dec 11 18:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Actions Against EPO Corruption and Unitary Patent (UPC) Injustice/Lobbying #patents #Europe https://t.co/x45v6RQxamDec 11 18:22
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Actions Against EPO Corruption and Unitary Patent (UPC) Injustice/Lobbying | TechrightsDec 11 18:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MarkKen20510303/status/1204829313314545665Dec 11 18:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MarkKen20510303: @Sheikh_al_Touar @schestowitz This is what #hmg should be addressing, not pissing around with #brexit and other big… https://t.co/KgEoqYpfQKDec 11 18:41
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@MarkKen20510303: @Sheikh_al_Touar @schestowitz This is what #hmg should be addressing, not pissing around with #brexit and other big… https://t.co/KgEoqYpfQKDec 11 18:41
schestowitz"This is what #hmg should be addressing, not pissing around with #brexit and other bigoted #tory nonsense and #lies"Dec 11 20:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1204820034742300672Dec 11 20:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fcassia: #BillGates is Pro-#nuclear. Color me surprised cc/@nukereaction @schestowitz https://t.co/pGgayMaWEsDec 11 20:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.treehugger.com | Solar & Energy Efficiency are "Cute" But Not the Answer, Bill Gates Says. Nuclear Power Is. | TreeHuggerDec 11 20:09
schestowitzBill is an expert in everything, esp. crimes and pedophilesDec 11 20:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/j_b_t/status/1204786650175483906Dec 11 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@j_b_t: @schestowitz The #russia #blame #game, seriously, it needs to stop. Being #anti#Trump (which @ArjenKamphuis overtly… https://t.co/EmdaAPhrXwDec 11 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@j_b_t: @schestowitz The #russia #blame #game, seriously, it needs to stop. Being #anti#Trump (which @ArjenKamphuis overtly… https://t.co/EmdaAPhrXwDec 11 20:10
schestowitz"Dec 11 20:10
schestowitzThe #russia #blame #game, seriously, it needs to stop. Being #anti#Trump (whichDec 11 20:10
schestowitz@ArjenKamphuisDec 11 20:10
schestowitz overtly was), does not mean you're "a russian asset". Such pathetic reasoning. #WikiLeaks has published loads of leaks not in favor of Russia or Putin, for starters.Dec 11 20:10
schestowitz"Dec 11 20:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ForrestGUID/status/1204778461564456961Dec 11 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@ForrestGUID: "The purpose of power is power." https://t.co/ZFmEf3ybOhDec 11 20:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: #Verizon Is Undermining Efforts To Archive #YahooGroups ...For No Coherent Reason https://t.co/3YnsEMWtvsDec 11 20:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sebgoa/status/1204706961255751681Dec 11 20:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@sebgoa: @schestowitz Your positivity is always great to seeDec 11 20:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1204701776089362433Dec 11 20:12
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@zoobab: @schestowitz in what sense?Dec 11 20:12
schestowitzIt was about examiners wanting holidaysDec 11 20:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/linuxkurs/status/1204668361008914432Dec 11 20:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linuxkurs: @schestowitz @Septor_Linux The funny thing is that it's programmed so badly that nobody would even like to use it.Dec 11 20:13
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