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schestowitz | taking down TR for a bit, I think the DB needs repairing, as the issue I encountered isn't php or httpd | Feb 12 04:48 |
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Techrights-sec | ok. I just noticed it stopped responding. | Feb 12 05:03 |
schestowitz | I am trying to understand why mariadb would not start after I stopped it. you can have a look also... | Feb 12 05:04 |
schestowitz | at first I noticed I could not upload images to wordpress and checked some log files, made free space, restarted php and http | Feb 12 05:04 |
schestowitz | seeing that the DB is being weird (I thought we could refer to it as "mysql" rather than mariadb... but have not tried in a long time), I think maybe the issue is there, but not sure why now. Last successful DB dump was just over an hour ago in homedir, but that's read-only I suppose | Feb 12 05:06 |
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schestowitz | I am running DB check for all DBs, first such check since we moved the DBs to a container back in Easter | Feb 12 05:14 |
schestowitz | no apparent issues in the underlying DB tables, in either site | Feb 12 05:20 |
schestowitz | maybe I am not aware of some command that would in fact start the DB? | Feb 12 05:20 |
schestowitz | I don't think I ever stopped this DB before... since the reconfiguration for that container | Feb 12 05:21 |
Techrights-sec | It's been a long while since I've looked at them. | Feb 12 05:22 |
Techrights-sec | It's the kind of thing that one should practice quarterly at least. But I | Feb 12 05:22 |
Techrights-sec | have been reluctant to stop/start for no reason. | Feb 12 05:22 |
schestowitz | yesterday we tested the TM backup, i supposed now, since easter, we get to scan and check DB integrity for TR at a quiet time of the day. Can you try to start mariadb again? It's me who manually stopped it, when trying to figure out a minor wordpress issue | Feb 12 05:23 |
Techrights-sec | There are some strange items in /var/log/mariadb/mariadb.log | Feb 12 05:25 |
Techrights-sec | at the end | Feb 12 05:25 |
schestowitz | I saw some login attempts with ordinary first names | Feb 12 05:25 |
Techrights-sec | 210212 5:18:09 [ERROR] Unknown/unsupported storage engine: InnoDB | Feb 12 05:27 |
Techrights-sec | If you mean on ssh, that is normal and is why keys are established best practice | Feb 12 05:27 |
Techrights-sec | as would be turning off password auth. | Feb 12 05:27 |
schestowitz | A silly guess of mine is, maybe this is all unrelated to the incident I saw (not really an incident, I just couldn't add a file to wordpress by means of upload) and was all along bound to happen after db restart? | Feb 12 05:28 |
Techrights-sec | I'm willing to chip in a bit to pay kaniini for the upgrade. there is | Feb 12 05:29 |
Techrights-sec | a backlog of problems that can be fixed / prevented with a fresh system. | Feb 12 05:29 |
Techrights-sec | But SSHguard or Fail2ban ought to be added as well. | Feb 12 05:30 |
schestowitz | is the problem likely on the DB container now or the host of TR? Since the site is down, maybe a service reboot is worth trying? | Feb 12 05:31 |
schestowitz | what you do in tmux had me thinking also, earlier on... maybe some lock file? | Feb 12 05:33 |
schestowitz | let's check if we can find it... | Feb 12 05:33 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, a lockfile might be lying around. | Feb 12 05:33 |
Techrights-sec | ^laying | Feb 12 05:33 |
schestowitz | no files under /var/lock | Feb 12 05:35 |
schestowitz | if we have a RO FS, that might help explain upload issues | Feb 12 05:40 |
schestowitz | but df or similar are so odd after the migration | Feb 12 05:41 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, the mount output shows double entries for some places. | Feb 12 05:41 |
schestowitz | maybe a reboot would cause fsck and restore service? | Feb 12 05:41 |
schestowitz | I cannot reach kaniini at the moment, only available over irc typically | Feb 12 05:42 |
Techrights-sec | That would also clear some of the temporary files. Though I feel stupid rebooting | Feb 12 05:43 |
schestowitz | nothing to lose, I think, as the site is not accessible regard;ess | Feb 12 05:43 |
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schestowitz | it's back | Feb 12 05:46 |
Techrights-sec | Ok. we can try it. | Feb 12 05:46 |
Techrights-sec | yes | Feb 12 05:46 |
Techrights-sec | can you start a new tmux sessio, then I can join it. | Feb 12 05:46 |
schestowitz | sure, but let's worry about the site first... | Feb 12 05:47 |
Techrights-sec | I mean over on TR | Feb 12 05:48 |
schestowitz | yes | Feb 12 05:48 |
schestowitz | the site is OK again, as I hope and mostly expected. the irc bots all came back too, as configured in the old DC | Feb 12 05:49 |
schestowitz | I still cannot upload files, but maybe the issue is in the session itself | Feb 12 05:49 |
Techrights-sec | Then the question is which logs to look at? The ones I saw | Feb 12 05:50 |
Techrights-sec | did not suggest anything. | Feb 12 05:50 |
schestowitz | riddle solved. | Feb 12 05:51 |
schestowitz | 1. I think the wordpress session itself was the culprit | Feb 12 05:51 |
schestowitz | 2. I think we were bound to have issues with mariadb regardless, if ever we were to stop it | Feb 12 05:51 |
schestowitz | 3. I checked httpd and php in case they were the culprits (negative) | Feb 12 05:51 |
schestowitz | 4. we now know the server boots OK and brings back IRC logs | Feb 12 05:51 |
schestowitz | 5. in a sense, we got to do some stress-testing, DDOS 'to the rescue', of both sites | Feb 12 05:52 |
Techrights-sec | HTTP is available | Feb 12 05:52 |
Techrights-sec | , so is SSH | Feb 12 05:52 |
schestowitz | ohhhhhhh... | Feb 12 05:55 |
schestowitz | I think I know what happened... happennnnnnnneeed... | Feb 12 05:55 |
schestowitz | we were trying to bring back the localhost instance of mariadb, which is deprecated | Feb 12 05:55 |
Techrights-sec | Oh, weren't the config files all updated? | Feb 12 05:56 |
schestowitz | Each CMS points to remote host | Feb 12 05:56 |
schestowitz | LOL. So basically the issue was me putting down httpd!!!! | Feb 12 05:57 |
schestowitz | The issue was likely session-related in wordpress, hence we were looking at the wrong thing, but at least lessons learned and reboot tested belatedly, for the firsts time since the instance was set up | Feb 12 05:58 |
Techrights-sec | maybe the packages should be removed from TR then. | Feb 12 05:58 |
Techrights-sec | yes, I forgot that it was on the other VM | Feb 12 05:59 |
schestowitz | either way I also managed to scan the DB for the first time in ages and all was fine (I've often wondered about that one) | Feb 12 06:00 |
Techrights-sec | shall we remove mariadb from TR that way the confusion can be avoided | Feb 12 06:00 |
schestowitz | removing it might involve yum something and I don't know what else it might attempt to do | Feb 12 06:00 |
Techrights-sec | good | Feb 12 06:00 |
schestowitz | to avoid remorse and regret I'd think of this as a D-R test and reboot, dB checks, sanity checked etc. | Feb 12 06:01 |
schestowitz | go ahead and remove these, assuming the existing software does not use those as a client side thing for the remove container | Feb 12 06:02 |
schestowitz | *remote container | Feb 12 06:02 |
Techrights-sec | It claims it would only remove two packages: | Feb 12 06:03 |
Techrights-sec | Removing: | Feb 12 06:03 |
Techrights-sec | mariadb x86_64 1:5.5.56-2.el7 @base 49 M | Feb 12 06:03 |
Techrights-sec | Removing for dependencies: | Feb 12 06:03 |
Techrights-sec | mariadb-server x86_64 1:5.5.56-2.el7 @base 58 M | Feb 12 06:03 |
Techrights-sec | if it were to be removed | Feb 12 06:03 |
Techrights-sec | Transaction test succeeded | Feb 12 06:04 |
Techrights-sec | Running transaction | Feb 12 06:04 |
Techrights-sec | Erasing : 1:mariadb-server-5.5.56-2.el7.x86_64 | Feb 12 06:04 |
Techrights-sec | 1/2 | Feb 12 06:04 |
Techrights-sec | warning: /var/log/mariadb/mariadb.log saved as /var/log/mariadb/mariadb.log.rpmsave | Feb 12 06:04 |
Techrights-sec | Erasing : 1:mariadb-5.5.56-2.el7.x86_64 | Feb 12 06:04 |
Techrights-sec | 2/2 | Feb 12 06:04 |
Techrights-sec | Verifying : 1:mariadb-server-5.5.56-2.el7.x86_64 | Feb 12 06:04 |
Techrights-sec | 1/2 | Feb 12 06:05 |
Techrights-sec | Verifying : 1:mariadb-5.5.56-2.el7.x86_64 | Feb 12 06:05 |
Techrights-sec | 2/2 | Feb 12 06:05 |
Techrights-sec | Removed: | Feb 12 06:05 |
Techrights-sec | mariadb.x86_64 1:5.5.56-2.el7 | Feb 12 06:05 |
Techrights-sec | Dependency Removed: | Feb 12 06:05 |
Techrights-sec | mariadb-server.x86_64 1:5.5.56-2.el7 | Feb 12 06:05 |
Techrights-sec | Complete! | Feb 12 06:05 |
schestowitz | we should rethink tmux layout. some was too small to be useful | Feb 12 06:06 |
Techrights-sec | yes, arrang tmux as needed then I can make the script launch it | Feb 12 06:09 |
Techrights-sec | with the panes in place. | Feb 12 06:09 |
Techrights-sec | I can accomodate up to 153x42 in a terminal | Feb 12 06:09 |
schestowitz | my script is lame and based on things I found online way back... it could certainly use major adjusting | Feb 12 06:10 |
schestowitz | https://gist.github.com/cdkamat/fdb136230f67c563c7b1 | Feb 12 06:11 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-gist.github.com | Install tmux 2.3 on rhel/centos 6 · GitHub | Feb 12 06:11 | |
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schestowitz | yup, we use an old one | Feb 12 06:12 |
Techrights-sec | tmux 1.8 is lacking a lot | Feb 12 06:12 |
Techrights-sec | \ | Feb 12 06:12 |
schestowitz | https://centos.pkgs.org/6/ghettoforge-plus-x86_64/tmux-2.4-2.gf.el6.x86_64.rpm.html | Feb 12 06:13 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-centos.pkgs.org | tmux-2.4-2.gf.el6.x86_64.rpm CentOS 6 Download | Feb 12 06:13 | |
Techrights-sec | CentOS 6 is way past EOL | Feb 12 06:14 |
schestowitz | should we put tmux on our local machines with ssh outwards? | Feb 12 06:15 |
Techrights-sec | if the ssh connection drops, then the session on the remote machine would | Feb 12 06:16 |
Techrights-sec | be lost | Feb 12 06:16 |
Techrights-sec | and there is no way to share a session | Feb 12 06:16 |
schestowitz | it would offer a newer version at least | Feb 12 06:16 |
Techrights-sec | https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product | Feb 12 06:17 |
Techrights-sec | May 10th, 2017 | Feb 12 06:17 |
Techrights-sec | going on 4 years | Feb 12 06:17 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-wiki.centos.org | About/Product - CentOS Wiki | Feb 12 06:17 | |
Techrights-sec | there is no benefit from that | Feb 12 06:18 |
Techrights-sec | and it would fix several severe, exploitable holes | Feb 12 06:18 |
schestowitz | I am off work until tomorrow night, so if kaniini gets back to me I'll suggest splitting the CMS parts into new containers with new OS | Feb 12 06:19 |
Techrights-sec | tmux 3.x is already seen out in the wild | Feb 12 06:20 |
Techrights-sec | thanks | Feb 12 06:21 |
schestowitz | for now, let's think for a bit about tmux or wait for kaniini to reply.... I will post some articles in TR now... didn't do any yesterday for obvious reasons (plumber, tm incident, gemini...) | Feb 12 06:22 |
Techrights-sec | ok | Feb 12 06:23 |
Techrights-sec | I will probably look at getting jan and feb into gemini | Feb 12 06:23 |
schestowitz | we have no deadline for that :-) more important to sort our the server moves, but we depend on the HV owner | Feb 12 06:23 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/katiewr31413491/status/1360004644395704320 | Feb 12 09:40 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@katiewr31413491: @schestowitz It was terrible how he turned his back on his grandson. The guy uncovered the truth about #Theranos &… https://t.co/lcHWo4LJkO | Feb 12 09:40 | |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@katiewr31413491: @schestowitz It was terrible how he turned his back on his grandson. The guy uncovered the truth about #Theranos &… https://t.co/lcHWo4LJkO | Feb 12 09:40 | |
schestowitz | "It was terrible how he turned his back on his grandson. The guy uncovered the truth about #Theranos & own family didn’t believe him." | Feb 12 09:40 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1359951055061188608 | Feb 12 09:40 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: this will happen in EU after upload filters are implemented; will have a chilling effect on holding the authorities… https://t.co/MWd4uHFUEF | Feb 12 09:40 | |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: this will happen in EU after upload filters are implemented; will have a chilling effect on holding the authorities… https://t.co/MWd4uHFUEF | Feb 12 09:40 | |
schestowitz | "this will happen in EU after upload filters are implemented; will have a chilling effect on holding the authorities to account... #copyright" | Feb 12 09:40 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1359865757723734016 | Feb 12 09:41 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@fcassia: @mmasnick @CaseyNewton @schestowitz Excellent 👌👌👏👏👏 | Feb 12 09:41 | |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1359560419606683655 | Feb 12 09:41 |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@glynmoody: <facepalm/> https://t.co/BhkdK1dSA0 | Feb 12 09:41 | |
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz: ● NEWS ● #Techdirt #SmartThingsForDumbPeople ☞ Chastity Penis Lock Company That Was [Cr]acked Says It's Now Totally… https://t.co/gL9tO4ngtj | Feb 12 09:41 | |
schestowitz | gemini://rawtext.club/~sloum/geminews/ stips down MSM into simple pages, but Techrights has better and nicer features, these conversions are relatively crude | Feb 12 10:11 |
schestowitz | https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/faq.txt | Feb 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | If you are looking for something in particular, Gemini has two search | Feb 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | engines: | Feb 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | * GUS, at gemini://gus.guru | Feb 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | * Houston, at gemini://houston.coder.town | Feb 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 12 10:25 |
schestowitz | I am checking if we can add an in-capsule search for techrigthts alone | Feb 12 10:25 |
Techrights-sec | I will probably look at getting jan and feb into gemini | Feb 12 10:30 |
Techrights-sec | Gemini TR is now fully navigable for Jan and Feb (up to yesterday) | Feb 12 10:30 |
Techrights-sec | Next over the coming days I will make the updates automated. | Feb 12 10:30 |
Techrights-sec | gemini://gus.guru/search?techrights | Feb 12 10:30 |
Techrights-sec | Shall I add TR to GUS? | Feb 12 10:30 |
Techrights-sec | (ps happy New Year) | Feb 12 10:30 |
Techrights-sec | a smattering of older pages got converted also, as a side effect of having | Feb 12 10:30 |
Techrights-sec | been cited directly or indirectly by articles from Jan or Feb. | Feb 12 10:30 |
schestowitz | My connection to the pi abroad was hung up, I think while I was napping, looking into how to do in-site search for the capsule at the moment | Feb 12 10:30 |
Techrights-sec | I have a template to autogenerate the main index nowL | Feb 12 10:56 |
Techrights-sec | : | Feb 12 10:56 |
Techrights-sec | gemini-main-index.sh | Feb 12 10:56 |
Techrights-sec | If more complex is needed, we'll have to kick it up to perl, but | Feb 12 10:56 |
Techrights-sec | for now it is a HERE document inside a short shell script. | Feb 12 10:56 |
schestowitz | Well done, I will take a look. At some stage we can add a script that runs with "Global" or similar to add site context like navigation, footer etc. | Feb 12 10:57 |
schestowitz | OK, I see, so I should not edit the main index for now, as it would be regenerated | Feb 12 10:58 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, I was just thinking that. The articles all link upwards, so that is good. | Feb 12 10:59 |
Techrights-sec | But the months ought to link sideways, as it were , to adjacent months. | Feb 12 10:59 |
Techrights-sec | The main index has not been touched yet, though I have the script ready. | Feb 12 10:59 |
Techrights-sec | When you have the chance can you loo at the output? | Feb 12 10:59 |
Techrights-sec | It does not write anything for now except some temp files which it | Feb 12 10:59 |
Techrights-sec | cleans up afterwards. | Feb 12 10:59 |
schestowitz | I will give it a test run | Feb 12 11:00 |
schestowitz | it looks like it shows 2 months' links (archives) at the top where the Bulletin heading and two months' of links were before. Should I correct this or you? | Feb 12 11:03 |
schestowitz | I am guessing you sort of reused the bulletin text/heading and then forgot to replicate what had been modified to suit the template | Feb 12 11:03 |
schestowitz | there's a big "vaccum" when it comes to searching gemini for now, so I want to see if I can index those objects and offer in-site search | Feb 12 11:05 |
Techrights-sec | Probably. | Feb 12 11:05 |
Techrights-sec | I'll put the bulletins back | Feb 12 11:05 |
Techrights-sec | search is good | Feb 12 11:05 |
schestowitz | I first thought about categories page, but it would be nowhere as useful, not even one bit, cross-references are probably the most important | Feb 12 11:06 |
Techrights-sec | I'll have to think about human navigation. For the spiders, the linking | Feb 12 11:10 |
Techrights-sec | of months will be useful. | Feb 12 11:10 |
Techrights-sec | I think just a full-text search would be a good start. | Feb 12 11:10 |
Techrights-sec | Then add fielded searching for categories, but I don't think | Feb 12 11:10 |
Techrights-sec | that can be done using Gemini. | Feb 12 11:10 |
schestowitz | if you think blog category, that's a problem unless you extract meta for each page and set that aside, otherwise all we have is dir structure | Feb 12 11:10 |
Techrights-sec | That's all in the CMS | Feb 12 11:10 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, and there is no metatada in Gemini | Feb 12 11:11 |
schestowitz | If they added more and more bloat to "gemini" (look ma! features/feeechures), it'll have the same complexity issues that doom the web for many people | Feb 12 11:12 |
schestowitz | in the old web days we had to be creative and make footers come from separate files, so you could focus purely on the body and now get 1 MB page "source" | Feb 12 11:12 |
Techrights-sec | No new features should be added to the format IMO | Feb 12 11:13 |
Techrights-sec | It is what it is and that's what makes it light. | Feb 12 11:13 |
Techrights-sec | I don't want to see and RDF plugin / extension for the protocol | Feb 12 11:13 |
Techrights-sec | It's a travesty that pages are above a few kB | Feb 12 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | I've added gemini-cron-updater.sh to the cronbjo for the RPi. | Feb 12 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | It will fire at noon and midnight UTC | Feb 12 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | Can you add | Feb 12 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | libdate-calc-perl | Feb 12 11:32 |
Techrights-sec | to the RPi? I think that is the last one. | Feb 12 11:32 |
schestowitz | adding | Feb 12 11:32 |
schestowitz | done (OT: I told rianne NOT to get the plumber until everything thaws, but she did not take my advice and now we have another burst... so another visit will be necessary) | Feb 12 11:33 |
Techrights-sec | Ouch. Why are the pipes freezing there? The insulation probably needs work. | Feb 12 11:34 |
schestowitz | washing machine's pipes pass outdoors | Feb 12 11:35 |
Techrights-sec | Weird arrangment. | Feb 12 11:37 |
schestowitz | someone else's design decision (predating us) | Feb 12 11:37 |
schestowitz | brb working out now, I've just checked the front page at gemini. very good job!! I'll carry on searching how to search internally, as I think it can greatly enhance the capsule, which is otherwise "too large" | Feb 12 11:44 |
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Techrights-sec | I'll have the month navigation done and then we can consider announcing. | Feb 12 12:20 |
schestowitz | A shower thought (literally): we can add a gemini link to the top of each article that has it (with time limit on when to show it because it doesn't make a copy in real time wrt wordpress), as it would both raise awareness and drive potential usage | Feb 12 12:21 |
Techrights-sec | I guess so but I am not familiar with the CMS | Feb 12 12:23 |
Techrights-sec | would it be done manually? | Feb 12 12:23 |
schestowitz | I can do this in php | Feb 12 12:23 |
schestowitz | mind you, for ipfs we cannot do this because 1) we don't know the CID (it's not clear to the CMS either) 2) we don't have per-article CIDs, not bulletins, for practical reasons or limitations in the CID as a "web page" concept | Feb 12 12:25 |
Techrights-sec | would it be done manually? | Feb 12 12:25 |
Techrights-sec | Month navigation is in place, at the bottom of each page. | Feb 12 12:25 |
schestowitz | excellent, well done, I will try to clean my links and feeds and then work on gemini until night. kaniini came around 3 hours later, seems busy at the moment so no OS upgrades today | Feb 12 12:26 |
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schestowitz | I will code something to add footer and header with navigation links to bulletin and irc indices | Feb 12 12:38 |
schestowitz | I am scripting the regenration of these indices now | Feb 12 12:45 |
Techrights-sec | Nice. | Feb 12 12:49 |
Techrights-sec | ' | Feb 12 12:49 |
Techrights-sec | By the way, can we remove the text graphics from the main page? They don't render | Feb 12 12:49 |
Techrights-sec | some of the time. It can be replaced by a simpler, "" | Feb 12 12:49 |
Techrights-sec | in squiggly text | Feb 12 12:49 |
schestowitz | you mean unicode stuff? It's also used a lot in bulletins and it's possible some clients don't handle utf-8 well | Feb 12 12:49 |
Techrights-sec | amfora indents along the left margin | Feb 12 12:53 |
Techrights-sec | that pushes the right edge of the 'graphics' to wrap around | Feb 12 12:53 |
Techrights-sec | It looks like amfora uses only 58 column on an 80-column terminal window. | Feb 12 12:53 |
Techrights-sec | \ | Feb 12 12:53 |
schestowitz | I can re-render the image as narrower | Feb 12 12:53 |
Techrights-sec | (it may be 60) | Feb 12 12:53 |
schestowitz | That might also explain why amfora deals poorly with bulletins 78 chars wide | Feb 12 12:54 |
Techrights-sec | Thanks. | Feb 12 12:54 |
Techrights-sec | gemini-main-index.sh is its home | Feb 12 12:54 |
schestowitz | I will insert the graphics there, once I remake it | Feb 12 12:54 |
Techrights-sec | OK. | Feb 12 12:56 |
Techrights-sec | I'm going over the notes and comments in my scripts. I hope they are simple | Feb 12 12:56 |
Techrights-sec | enough. | Feb 12 12:56 |
schestowitz | nano warns me you still edit that file | Feb 12 12:56 |
Techrights-sec | Oops. Free now. | Feb 12 12:57 |
schestowitz | saved, ready for retesting | Feb 12 12:58 |
schestowitz | there is index.gmi in homedir/~, maybe by accident/ | Feb 12 13:01 |
Techrights-sec | I can take a character off the right edge. | Feb 12 13:01 |
Techrights-sec | Still off by one... | Feb 12 13:01 |
schestowitz | I put the logo at ~/logo.txt and am adding some template stuff there, in other files I may later relocate to keep things tiduer | Feb 12 13:02 |
schestowitz | *tidier | Feb 12 13:02 |
Techrights-sec | I can take a character off the right edge. | Feb 12 14:13 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, the stray index.gmi has been removed now. | Feb 12 14:13 |
Techrights-sec | I've tweaked the logo.txt file to match what fits in amfora at 80 columns | Feb 12 14:13 |
schestowitz | I am improving the anchor text for links in bulletins and irc, plus added footer, menu, made a whole script that takes less 2 seconds to run and made ALL the indexes, given the latest directory imported from the ipfs account | Feb 12 14:14 |
schestowitz | I think "Latest Articles" section belongs before "Bulletins" (I think) | Feb 12 14:17 |
Techrights-sec | There is already the Feb and Jan section at the top. | Feb 12 14:19 |
Techrights-sec | The end is probably a good place for the article samples, | Feb 12 14:19 |
Techrights-sec | since it duplicates content. The other content is not really | Feb 12 14:19 |
Techrights-sec | found anywhere else on the site. | Feb 12 14:19 |
schestowitz | OK, makes sense | Feb 12 14:19 |
schestowitz | I like how you changed the bulletin index to save space. If you generate this from a script, can you change "bulletin" to "bulletins" in the path? | Feb 12 14:49 |
Techrights-sec | Sure. | Feb 12 15:13 |
Techrights-sec | All set. | Feb 12 15:13 |
schestowitz | cheers! it says you edit gemini-main-index.sh at the moment. Can you change boycottnovellsocial to have dash before "social"? Just noticed it | Feb 12 15:14 |
schestowitz | it now takes about 6 seconds on the pi to regenerate indexes/pages for bulletins+irc and it's all gone with gnu and bash | Feb 12 15:15 |
schestowitz | it is in /bin/gemini-bulletin-irc-update.sh | Feb 12 15:16 |
Techrights-sec | Ok. Freed up | Feb 12 15:17 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, that's quite awesome! | Feb 12 15:17 |
Techrights-sec | BTW I have things set to refresh by cron twice a day, the midday refresh | Feb 12 15:17 |
Techrights-sec | seemed to go ok so I will leave the midnight one in place and check the | Feb 12 15:17 |
Techrights-sec | results tomorrow | Feb 12 15:17 |
Techrights-sec | Does /bin/gemini-bulletin-irc-update.sh need any parameters passed to it? | Feb 12 15:18 |
schestowitz | No, and for now I can run it manually. I don't want to take too many steps at once as it makes debugging trickier. I've only just managed to cron the ipfs up and down periods, mostly a PATH issue | Feb 12 15:18 |
schestowitz | At some stage we need to set cron jobs to copy across the latest bulletins and irc files after 3am, aside from regenerating the gemini capsule | Feb 12 15:19 |
Techrights-sec | Ok. A later change to that script could be to introduce loops | Feb 12 15:20 |
Techrights-sec | and use the date utility to generate relative dates. | Feb 12 15:20 |
schestowitz | Yes, lots to be improve in there, but it's a starting point | Feb 12 15:21 |
schestowitz | I am guessing #boycottnovellsocial will become #boycottnovell-social with a dash next time the index gets updated. There's also a stale Sept. 2020 archive page for Bulletin in the front page. | Feb 12 15:23 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, but I just updated it manuall now. | Feb 12 15:26 |
schestowitz | Can I introduce the capsule now, with maybe a video demo and an article explain "WTF" this gemini thing is? | Feb 12 15:26 |
Techrights-sec | Sure, I think it is ready. | Feb 12 15:28 |
Techrights-sec | The newest artile pages link back to the start, but the older ones do not. | Feb 12 15:28 |
Techrights-sec | Should I regenerate the whole shebang to get uniform return links? | Feb 12 15:28 |
schestowitz | I think it's OK if a tad out of date | Feb 12 15:28 |
schestowitz | I will think how to craft php in a way that works for older but not too old nodes in wordpress without losing the changes when we patch this LTS of wordpress | Feb 12 15:28 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, and the whole scraping thing is a bit brittle, I've tried to minimize that | Feb 12 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | but any changes to the HTTP structure may need tweaking. | Feb 12 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | Hopefully the scripts are simple enough to be understood when the time | Feb 12 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | comes. | Feb 12 15:34 |
Techrights-sec | xxxxx | Feb 12 15:34 |
schestowitz | I need to exercise navigation a little before recording, to avoid 'surprises' | Feb 12 15:35 |
Techrights-sec | Navigation is mostly ok in amfora. | Feb 12 16:18 |
Techrights-sec | I don't ;ke the space nor the lack of warning for non-gemini links | Feb 12 16:18 |
Techrights-sec | I have to head out for a bit soon. | Feb 12 16:18 |
Techrights-sec | see date-loop-demo.sh | Feb 12 16:18 |
Techrights-sec | bbl - probably a few hours | Feb 12 16:18 |
schestowitz | did a 37-min video, came out ok without prior preparation | Feb 12 16:18 |
schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/02/guest-post-is-it-sculpture-or-monument.html?showComment=1613127253168#c4576819456725765740 | Feb 12 16:42 |
schestowitz | "This decision can only be completely understood in light of the provision of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation on the Freedom of Panorama, Article 1276 (Free use of a work permanently located in a place open to the public). Art. 1276 allows for the free distribution of reproductions of works of architecture (such as a plinth or base) located in or visible from a public place (for profit or not for profit), whereas the | Feb 12 16:42 |
schestowitz | reproduction of a piece of fine art (such as a sculpture) permanently located in a place open to the public is allowed only for not-for-profit purposes. With a friendly Мяу-мяу Reinhard Oertli" | Feb 12 16:42 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1360260614879379458 | Feb 12 18:45 |
Techrights-sec | I'll be able to check the video tomororw. | Feb 12 22:32 |
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