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schestowitz> Thank you for your response.May 12 01:25
schestowitz>May 12 01:25
schestowitz> Yes, I am aware of a Software Freedom , open source etc. I am notMay 12 01:25
schestowitz> entirely ignorant of these issues, but also not entirely knowledgeableMay 12 01:25
schestowitz> about them.May 12 01:25
schestowitz>May 12 01:25
schestowitz> And yes I am fluent in HTML. I guess what you mention would be a goodMay 12 01:25
schestowitz> place to start on.May 12 01:25
schestowitz>May 12 01:25
schestowitz> The ball is in your court, how do we move forward?May 12 01:25
schestowitzHave you used WordPress in the past?May 12 01:25
schestowitz> Aware of ****software freedom.... having. That typo.May 12 01:29
schestowitzIt's OK, typos aren't a big deal. The concepts and grasp of tech are what counts...May 12 01:29
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schestowitzJust to let you know, m2020-05/2020-05-11-merged.html is said to have been edited (changed, maybe just file meta) since I retrieved it yesterday. I know it might not be significant; bu if it i, then I though I'd holler...  as rsync re-fetched it with today's filesMay 12 06:43
schestowitz> Thanks.  I think it's just the file meta data since over here the mergedMay 12 07:00
schestowitz> file matches the text notes.May 12 07:00
schestowitz>May 12 07:00
schestowitz> $ TZ=UTC ls -hlnrt *-merged.html other*.txt | tail -n 6May 12 07:00
schestowitz...May 12 07:00
schestowitzMaybe you re-saved the file after sending it upstream, so timestamp was changed.May 12 07:00
schestowitzGlad to know we didn't lose anything of substance.May 12 07:00
schestowitzI work until 9am (last of 4 shifts in a row), so can write more today and tomorrow.May 12 07:00
schestowitzOT: the restrictions in place here, re meeting people, are too strict for me to go back to the gym (shut) or even meet a mate for shotput. We use youtube videos of some former US gymnast who coaches on exercise without equipment at home. At least we do >something<...May 12 07:00
schestowitz8 hours ago:May 12 07:02
schestowitz[root@techrights ~]# grep githubification  /var/log/httpd/techrights.org-access_log | wcMay 12 07:02
schestowitz   3461   56152  600203May 12 07:02
schestowitz[root@techrights ~]# grep githubification  /var/log/httpd/techrights.org-access_log-20200510 | wcMay 12 07:02
schestowitz   2866   44712  497658May 12 07:02
schestowitzOur series on github issues is having a good effect and I see Microsoft bigwigs hawking me in Twitter, possibly looking for dirt.May 12 07:02
schestowitz"That's because you've got the command the wrong way around. Its: sudo systemctl restart nginx"May 12 07:06
schestowitz|I tried sudo systemctl restart nginx command still its asking password please find the attached screenshot""May 12 07:07
schestowitz"It seems possible the sudoers file might need editing. What happens when you enter your password?"May 12 07:07
schestowitz"May 12 07:07
schestowitzHi Roy,May 12 07:07
schestowitzActually its a public and private key based account so I have no passwordMay 12 07:07
schestowitz"May 12 07:07
schestowitzThanks for clarifying. So that seems to boil down to user priv/auth rather than systemd or nginx.May 12 07:07
schestowitzLet's see what James can find; he configured the accounts.May 12 07:07
schestowitzRegards,May 12 07:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/17996808#9c122730762a0138a1b000163e3b85e3May 12 07:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@muehlfield@diasp.eu: #billionaire #billionaires #wealth #extraction #exploitation #labor #privatizationMay 12 07:09
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- Photo by muehlfield@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_6caf5452597fe768bdbd.pngMay 12 07:09
schestowitz"wealth (the hoarding of resources due to a psychological need for power) is only “deserved” according to a belief in a Protestant Covenant – it is clearly not so much a virtue as an illness."May 12 07:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/17350487#70fe78f03f5f0138bf9d047d7b62795eMay 12 07:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Only Senator Bernie Sanders and billionaire Tom Steyer mentioned climate change." https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/03/02/billionaire-power-and-politics/May 12 07:10
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.counterpunch.org | Billionaire Power and Politics - CounterPunch.orgMay 12 07:10
schestowitz"May 12 07:10
schestowitzLOLMay 12 07:10
schestowitzrokvpy@diasp.orgMay 12 07:10
schestowitzrokvpy@diasp.org - 2 months agoMay 12 07:10
schestowitzAnd Jill Stein retired and is planning on moving to teh space station with me (^;May 12 07:10
schestowitzrokvpy@diasp.orgMay 12 07:10
schestowitzrokvpy@diasp.org - 2 months agoMay 12 07:10
schestowitzthe best manuevre would be sanders winning and announcing (with warning) stein is vpMay 12 07:10
schestowitzthat would be an epic win for humankindMay 12 07:10
schestowitzif there is gonna be one on earthMay 12 07:10
schestowitzdunt look good lol and it wunt be longMay 12 07:10
schestowitzhave space launch plans, roy bro \m/May 12 07:10
schestowitz"May 12 07:10
schestowitzThey'd never allow that to happen... the businesses, their press etc. They control almost every aspect of the system and many people's perceptions.May 12 07:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/17505282#612de7b04e4e0138605d101b0efced44May 12 07:11
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The world's oligarchs will soon have billions of people confined/reduced to 'home arrests' while they go on holiday in their 'clean' bunkers in 'clean' islands with offshore banks accounts and 'clean' >private< jets. #covid19 #coronavirusMay 12 07:11
schestowitz"May 12 07:11
schestowitzProve itMay 12 07:11
schestowitzIcavotMay 12 07:11
schestowitzIcavot - 2 months agoMay 12 07:11
schestowitzYet the health risks of this pandemic are real. Try to stay at home. We’ll sort things out in the streets later. In the meantime we can do our part as long as we take safety precautions.May 12 07:11
schestowitzTrocatintasMay 12 07:11
schestowitzTrocatintas - 2 months agoMay 12 07:11
schestowitzI agree with taking the needed preventive measures but that doesn’t make Dr. Roy’s analysis any less true.May 12 07:12
schestowitzThis virus sure came as a gift to many of the oligarchs but maybe there is a bigger gift being offered to human survival as a whole by stopping a significant part of the fossil fuel burning.May 12 07:12
schestowitz"May 12 07:12
schestowitzMy use of the term 'home arrests' in scare quotes was likely misunderstood. I think it's reasonable to stay home. For now....May 12 07:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/17606262#366fd26054be01382ca5047d7b62795eMay 12 07:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "What if the Earth's carrying capacity is limited to three billion humans...?" https://www.commonwealthclub.org/events/2020-03-24/how-many-people-can-earth-supportMay 12 07:13
schestowitz"May 12 07:13
schestowitzHere says that COVID19 was created to control population growth…May 12 07:13
schestowitz“COVID19 did not originate in China”May 12 07:13
schestowitzhttps://www.alainet.org/es/articulo/205546May 12 07:13
schestowitz"May 12 07:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.commonwealthclub.org | How Many People Can Earth Support? | Commonwealth ClubMay 12 07:13
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.alainet.org | COVID19 no se originó en ChinaMay 12 07:13
schestowitzI cannot read that language....May 12 07:13
schestowitz(I am also not convinced it was "created"... no strong evidence of such an assertion that I've seen)May 12 07:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15924292#dc6e4ca0b34c013752290cc47a07853cMay 12 07:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Billionaires working to turn schools into their private businesses. Famous criminal #billgates does it, so why not the Waltons too? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/09/05/walton-family-plot-privatize-public-schools-arkansasMay 12 07:14
schestowitz"May 12 07:14
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.commondreams.org | The Walton Family Plot to Privatize the Public Schools of Arkansas | Common Dreams ViewsMay 12 07:15
schestowitzprivatising school is a brilliant business plan-- microsoft can use it to force more products onto customers, presumably wal mart can exploit it in a similar fashion.May 12 07:15
schestowitzof course it should run afoul of antitrust law, but the doj is pretty useless and corrupt. youd think it was in south africa or something.May 12 07:15
schestowitz"May 12 07:15
schestowitzPeople working from home = more Windows licences? Let's hope not...May 12 07:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/15616595#20bb24709a350137b1990cc47a07853cMay 12 07:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Working from home https://www.tfir.io/2019/08/05/a-1-billion-open-source-company-with-no-headquarter-sid-sijbrandij-of-gitlab/ I've done that for over a decade. #gitlab is ahead of the curve.May 12 07:15
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://www.tfir.io/2019/08/05/a-1-billion-open-source-company-with-no-headquarter-sid-sijbrandij-of-gitlab/ )May 12 07:15
schestowitz"i seem to recall red hat starting in the north carolina flat of one of its founders."May 12 07:15
schestowitzI know it's NC, not sure if bedroom, but most companies do not start as an office but as a projectMay 12 07:16
schestowitz> Yes, this is a very important series, but then TR has some very goodMay 12 07:20
schestowitz> articles the last year.May 12 07:20
schestowitzIt has been possible by increase in efficiency.May 12 07:20
schestowitzBTW, for the second time in months this morning there was a feed always crashing QuiteRSS. It happens when some domain lapses and give bad response from the server... dodgy hosters and registrars, I suppose...May 12 07:20
schestowitzLast time it happened it crashed every time Rianne and I refresh our rss feeds. Every time. We narrowed it down to "LinuxBURN" (IIRC, forgot the actual name)...May 12 07:20
schestowitzThis morning it happened again and it only took about 20 mins to narrow down the culprit, removing it from my laptop and then rianne'sMay 12 07:20
schestowitztldr; if quiterss starts crashing like that, good practice it to refresh one feed at the time until touching the one causing the crash. It can otherwise take ages to debut -- updating the software, reboots, stracing, etc. quiterss does not name the cause of crashes even when run from the CLI.May 12 07:21
schestowitz30k viewsMay 12 07:23
schestowitzgrep gnuhub  /var/log/httpd/techrights.org-access_log* | wcMay 12 07:23
schestowitz  30078  467552 5982551May 12 07:23
schestowitzThe logs we keep are deleted after 4 weeks, so this one matches "gnuhub" for 4 weeks.May 12 07:23
schestowitzThat does not include RSS feeds, social control media, front page views etc.May 12 07:23
schestowitz>> grep gnuhub  /var/log/httpd/techrights.org-access_log* | wcMay 12 08:30
schestowitz>>   30078  467552 5982551May 12 08:30
schestowitz>>May 12 08:30
schestowitz>> The logs we keep are deleted after 4 weeks, so this one matches "gnuhub"May 12 08:30
schestowitz>> for 4 weeks.May 12 08:30
schestowitz>>May 12 08:30
schestowitz> It would really help for the major projects to self-host.  I'm not sureMay 12 08:30
schestowitz> how they fell for the inaccurate connotations that GitHub was everMay 12 08:30
schestowitz> anything other than proprietary.  Now it is in overtly hostile hands.May 12 08:30
schestowitz> M$ can't recover the money directly so it will find some indirectMay 12 08:30
schestowitz> methods to make the purchase worth it, maybe monitoring, surveillance,May 12 08:30
schestowitz> and censorship can be part of their tactics.May 12 08:30
schestowitz>May 12 08:30
schestowitz> Again, the major projects really need to self-host.May 12 08:30
schestowitzNeed outward migration tools for things like bug trackers. Even then, network effect means lack of visibility would discourage outward migration.May 12 08:30
schestowitz>>>> Maybe the plan us to keep Linux around long enough until systemdMay 12 08:55
schestowitz>>>> 'matures' into a kernel with 'borrowed' code... hosted by Microsoft andMay 12 08:55
schestowitz>>>> controlled by Red Hat while the whole Debian branch (Ubuntu included)May 12 08:55
schestowitz>>>> nods approvingly out of desperation...May 12 08:55
schestowitz>>> Desperation due to credible, well-placed threats would be my guess.May 12 08:55
schestowitz>>>May 12 08:55
schestowitz>>> Shifting a little to standards, I'd like to read about what they did toMay 12 08:55
schestowitz>>> Durusau to break him over the office formats.  Their attempt at gettingMay 12 08:55
schestowitz>>> Bray is documented, but they did not succeed against him or his wife.May 12 08:55
schestowitz>>> Durusau, on the other hand, looked like a broken man.May 12 08:55
schestowitz>> His Twitter profile shows him active:May 12 08:55
schestowitz>> https://twitter.com/patrickdurusauMay 12 08:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-mobile.twitter.com | Patrick Durusau ⏳ (@patrickDurusau) on TwitterMay 12 08:55
schestowitz>> http://techrights.org/2019/06/22/durusau-and-coekaerts/May 12 08:55
schestowitz>>May 12 08:55
schestowitz> I presume there are both an NDA and a non-disparagement contract inMay 12 08:55
schestowitz> cases like his.  If they did everything up front, then those willMay 12 08:56
schestowitz> eventually expire and I wonder when they will expire and he could writeMay 12 08:56
schestowitz> about the incident(s) if he felt like it.  They didn't need to threatenMay 12 08:56
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Microsoft Apparently Did a Patrick Durusau on Wim Coekaerts to Broaden Its Control Over GNU/Linux | TechrightsMay 12 08:56
schestowitz> everybody, just a few key people.  However, it is just as likely IMOMay 12 08:56
schestowitz> that things were done against him informally and will be held over himMay 12 08:56
schestowitz> indefinitely.May 12 08:56
schestowitzcoekaerts is now vice char at lf board. not good for linus.May 12 08:56
schestowitzmirosoft has a lot of LF by the balls...May 12 08:56
schestowitzfiguratively... unless they send goons, too...May 12 08:56
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acer-box9to5Linux will be betterMay 12 20:28
acer-boxSlightly smiling faceMay 12 20:28
acer-box and I hope it will be your new favourite soon.May 12 20:28
acer-box8:12 PMMay 12 20:28
acer-boxit is, and you control it like we control our sitesMay 12 20:28

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