●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 12, 2026 ●● ● Jul 12 [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] "Dear members, dear colleagues, [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] We have already been contacted by disappointed colleagues who did not receive a promotion or step in April 2026, despite their hard work in 2025, and feel this is unfair. [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] If you are in this situation and either received a good performance report for 2025 or contested your 2025 performance report, you can contest this decision by filing a request for review (RfR). The RfR must be filed within 3 months following the earliest of the following 2 dates: when your manager contacted you to announce the decision, or the 24th of April (April 2026 payslip). [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Colleagues with good or better performance reports have received a step or promotion with retroactive effect or monetary compensation after having filed a RfR and followed through to the subsequent internal appeal stage. [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] SUEPO Munich will be distributing the template RfR - updated by our lawyer - to members upon demand. If you wish to receive the RfR template, please fill in this form. [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] In the meantime, we recommend starting to draft the arguments relevant to your situation, supported with relevant written traces (e.g. appraisal report, documents proving supplementary activities...). A request for review should include the receivability, facts, grounds for review and what you are requesting. You will have to provide arguments showing any of the following criteria for challenging discretionary decisions: [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Abuse of power [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Breach of procedure [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Error of law [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Error of relevant fact [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Consideration of irrelevant facts [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Discrimination [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Failure to consider relevant facts [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Manifestly wrong conclusion based on correct facts [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] ILOAT Judgment 4711, consideration 8 states: Even though the new system is not automatic, neither is it left to an unfettered discretion. The main objective of your RfR will be to prove that this was not the case in your situation. For more information about the process of contesting the lack of reward, see overview here. [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Out of courtesy, it is advisable to inform your line manager that you will be filing a RfR. Do not hesitate to contact us at munich@suepo.org if you have any questions or if you need support at any stage of the procedure. [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] Sincerely yours" ● Jul 12 [11:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:11] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [11:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@agjs4m3wtva2n.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:36] *rianne (~rianne@agjs4m3wtva2n.irc) has joined #techbytes [11:37] *rianne (~rianne@freenode-gvn.goo.k31cok.IP) has joined #techbytes ● Jul 12 [12:03] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@kcvnmgbxt8eqq.irc) has joined #techbytes [12:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techbytes ● Jul 12 [13:16] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:17] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@xk49uzi5amp4u.irc) has joined #techbytes [13:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techbytes [13:21] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 12 [16:26] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:49] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@p6twdb3p8mvxu.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Jul 12 [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] LOL. He did an AMA around this time last summer, and one of the first things out of his mouth was that he didnt believe politics or political maneuvering happened at Albany. You could practically feel the collective shock in the room. It was palpable. This was coming from someone who had just been transferred to take over a department he had little to no experience with or background in. To many people, the move looked like a t [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] extbook example of politics and favoritism. [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] The irony only got worse later into the year when his departments individual teams employee survey scores each ended up among the lowest in all of IBM, dipping to around -30% in many categories. Yet, as usual, HR seemed content to sit on its hands while everyone else watched the fallout. [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] 4 days ago by Anonymous [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @nq+1kwt2hnpy [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] +6 [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] @ck [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] Are you talking about JS? Hes so full of it. The politics surrounding him and the political games he plays are unreal. Hes always preaching about being data-driven right up until the data and facts dont support the narrative hes trying to sell. Then suddenly the rules change. [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] Its honestly amazing hes managed to survive this long. Every team or project he touches seems to either slowly die on the vine or crash and burn outright. I genuinely dont understand how senior leadership hasnt connected the dots yet. At this point, you almost have to wonder if hes their designated executioner. They send him in whenever they want to quietly ki-l something while pretending it was just business deci [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] sions. [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] 5 days ago by Anonymous [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @j4+1kwt2hnpy [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] +6 [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] @OP - Have you ever thought how IBM is able to sell such products to the clients? Clients also have similar mo--ns who know nothing about the product or how the product they are spending millions for is going to solve their business need, but they are in the position to make such purchasing decisions and that is what keeps IBM in business. [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] The moment engineers like you and I and several others who have what it takes to build a product get into these positions, the professional landscape is going to look a lot different. IBM knows it and so does other fortune 500 companies, and they would never want us in these decision making positions. [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] 5 days ago by Anonymous [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @ef+1kwt2hnpy [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] +10 [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] @ag every project that senior manage touches ends up in the graveyard [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] " [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kwt2hnpy [21:32] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kwt2hnpy ) [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kwwgw09k [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] " [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] All I know is that I didn't get a raise because "there's no money in that bucket this year" and I watched a lot of coworkers get put on PIPs who didn't deserve it, but our POS failed CEO got $30M. Hey Arvind....fck you! Fck you and all your little pipmunk minions. May you all rot in the deepest pit of h3ll along Gerstner. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 3 days ago by Anonymous [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] | 4 reactions (+4/-0) | Reply [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @nh+1kwwgw09k [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] +5 [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] @a4 - In many cases not even payroll cuts but rather payroll "moves" to India. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 5 days ago by Anonymous [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @ed+1kwwgw09k [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] +2 [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Bob was born to be the zero day poster child. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 5 days ago by Anonymous [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] | 6 reactions (+4/-2) | Reply [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @ds+1kwwgw09k [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] +9 [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] More buzzword nonsense that is meaningless [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 5 days ago by Anonymous [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] | 9 reactions (+9/-0) | Reply [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @cp+1kwwgw09k [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] +6 [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] @OP - this is pure garbage. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 5 days ago by Anonymous [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @b3+1kwwgw09k [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] +4 [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Bonus zero indeed [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 5 days ago by Anonymous [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] | 6 reactions (+5/-1) | Reply [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @av+1kwwgw09k [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] +14 [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] "Despite all the talk of AI, Krishna estimates that just 20 percent of businesses are utilizing it correctly. The rest, he says, are not getting a return on their investment or dont quite know what to do with it." [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] We all know IBM is in the 20% bracket - The correct way of utilizing in IBM is to tell a narrative that the company saved $4.5 billion by using AI for HR, all the savings or the return on investment as Krishna calls it, are actually from payroll cuts that impacted 8000 jobs. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] AskHR is a piece of sh-t, ask anybody who has used it, I feel sorry for those in HR who now have to do additional work but can't do anything about it, and employees who need to reach out to HR just give up in frustration. And on top of that, IBM wants its consultants to repeat what they call client zero success at the customer site. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Why is IBM so obsessed with zero - client zero, day zero, this zero , that zero etc etc [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] All we know is, bonus is zero and salary hike is zero, for all those who deserve the raise based on the hard work they put in. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] " [21:32] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kwwgw09k ) [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kwvexhrf [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] "BM let's all "dinobabies" go and hire people out of school, and offshoring jobs both are cheaper. I know I'm a dinobaby let was let go. Funny thing is my last account had an outage and IBM India gave the cheap 3rd party company my name and number. I told the cheap 3rd party company to call India and get a different point of contact. That outage cost IBM big $$$ [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 3 days ago by Anonymous [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @qe+1kwvexhrf [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] +6 [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] @as [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] ah's post was "written" by AI. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Whoever ah is, they're so lame that they don't even trust their own mind to be able to compose a simple post online. They went to AI to do it for them. This is the level of stupid we are working with here, at this point in time in the universe. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] Astoundingly dull, uncreative, and collapsing in upon itself, disguised as being "innovative, forward-thinking, and futuristic". [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] " [21:33] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kwvexhrf ) [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kx72ndwf [21:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kx72ndwf ) [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] " IBM is where hard work and and accomplishments do not get you recognition and promotions. It is no longer a meritocracy.It is all about favoritism and sycophants. Just look at Albany for the last 5-6 years. Its so blatant they dont even bother covering it up with a weak cover story anymore. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | no reactions | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @j7+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 0 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] @Ej. BM would gladly give up 50-65% of their consulting business as its low profit labor intensive repeditive task operations. The problem is no one else wants that kind of business either and that includes the body shop operations like wipro. IBM knows this and is hoping AI will automate that 50-65% of the business. Until then the only hope is IBM throws something else into the mix, to make the acquirer feel like there is value [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] there. (Eg TSS, scale out power and/or storage, or perhaps the entire BP and cloud operation). [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 2 hours ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | no reactions | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @j5+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +1 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] @hg [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Agree 100%. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 5 hours ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | 1 reaction (+1/-0) | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @hn+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +7 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Why would anyone worry about promotions, bonuses and such when you work for such a trash company? IBM doesn't care about you. There is no loyalty. Better to get out of that dumpster and breathe the fresh post-IBM air before it's too late. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 6 hours ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | 7 reactions (+7/-0) | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @hg+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +1 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] @ej [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] What do you by "We" ? [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Either you are a member of the cabal of slimy executives or not ? [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] The slimy Indian at the top is doing his best to steal from the common IBM employees. He is following the footsteps of the previous slimy executives before him. Going back to the slimy Gerstner. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 8 hours ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | 1 reaction (+1/-0) | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @h4+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +5 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Arvind will soon be the 4th IBM CEO to leave with well over $100,000,000 of IBM employee and shareholder monies. All started 4-1-93 when Gerstner came in and set IBM on the path of "financial engineering" vs making great things as it did for decades. I was there for 10 years before Gerstner and 10 after and he only cared about 1 thing and 1 person. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Sam Palmisano (2012): Stepped down as CEO with an exit and pension package valued at approximately $271M, largely consisting of accumulated deferred compensation, pension value, and equity. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Louis Gerstner (2002): Stepped down with an estimated total severance and retirement package of $189M. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Virginia (Ginni) Rometty (2020): Retired from the CEO role with realized lifetime compensation exceeding $144M, much of which vested upon her departure. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] John Akers (1993): Retired following a difficult financial period for the company; his exit package included pension payouts and standard benefits, but did not cross the $100M threshold. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] He counts every paperclip, measures the tape, [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] And watches the clock with a miserly gape. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] His office is freezing, the heater is dead, [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] "Wear sweaters," with a cheerful grimace, he has said. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] The breakroom fridge offers a sad, barren space, [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Just a half-gallon jug of "expired" Nutrish-Trace. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] He buys the off-brand coffee, the kind that tastes sour, [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] And docks fifteen minutes if you use the commode for an hour. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] No bonuses given, no raises allowed, [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] But he constantly talks of how "we" make him proud. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] He jets to the Bahamas in first class for the view, [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] While handing out Staples gift cards to the crew. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] So raise up your mugs of lukewarm tap water, [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] To the tightest employer on this side of the border! [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 9 hours ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | 5 reactions (+5/-0) | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @gt+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +5 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] We should sell IBM Consulting to Kyndryl - IBM's Toxic Asset Fund. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 21 hours ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | 7 reactions (+6/-1) | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @ej+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +2 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] @cn [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] When the product is mediocre, it shows. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | 2 reactions (+2/-0) | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @dk+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +1 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Consulting organizations thru out the world are on hard times. Too many organizations are chasing too few engagements thus rates have dropped to rock bottom. Even IBM consulting and its separate strategy of hybrid enterprise AI has been impacted and the ratings agencys have labeled IBM consulting the weak sister [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] https://seekingalpha.com/news/4612943-ibm-initiated-at-neutral-as-quantum-provides-upside-consulting-prompts-pause-susquehanna [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | 1 reaction (+1/-0) | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @cn+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +6 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] @af [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Note: This is what they said last year. And the year before that. Something somehting do less with more something something use AI something something. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] The crash can't come soon enough. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] | 6 reactions (+6/-0) | Reply [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @c9+1kx72ndwf [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] +8 [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] There is very few, if any, promotion this year. Not enough money, times are hard for IB> [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] There is just enough money to pay for the bonus of the slimy Indian at the top. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] Better luck, next year. [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] " [21:38] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/news/4612943-ibm-initiated-at-neutral-as-quantum-provides-upside-consulting-prompts-pause-susquehanna ) ● Jul 12 [23:52] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:56] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@xk49uzi5amp4u.irc) has joined #techbytes