●● IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 12, 2026 ●● ● Oct 12 [00:29] *FANTOM has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:39] *FANTOM (~fantom@freenode-0vl.t8a.dd37p8.IP) has joined #techbytes [00:50] *FANTOM has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:59] *FANTOM (~fantom@freenode-0vl.t8a.dd37p8.IP) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 12 [01:08] *FANTOM has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [01:11] *FANTOM (~fantom@freenode-0vl.t8a.dd37p8.IP) has joined #techbytes [01:14] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:18] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@6mnab3uw5dgtk.irc) has joined #techbytes ● Oct 12 [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m4h3mxs1#replies [02:35] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m4h3mxs1#replies ) [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] "" [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] @dq Running models on these contents. Its easy to connect the commenters, similar posts across different organizations. You can easily find this is coordinated effort. [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] 1 day ago by Anonymous [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] | no reactions | Reply [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] Post ID: @f4+1m4h3mxs1 [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] +1 [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] If nobody thinks this is a coordinated operation against ONE nationality, go see the AT&T layoffs board. Exact same post. [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] Hilarious. [02:35] schestowitz[TR2] " [02:37] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m4nq6sh1 [02:37] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m4nq6sh1 ) [02:37] schestowitz[TR2] " [02:37] schestowitz[TR2] Whats the Account Technology Strategist role really about? [02:37] schestowitz[TR2] Im currently interviewing for the Account Technology Strategist Strategist (ATS) role and trying to get a sense of what its really like. My background is AE for other large SaaS providers. Seems like this role is sales at its core. Anyone here an ATS and can give me the run down? Is it a good career move? [02:37] schestowitz[TR2] " ● Oct 12 [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49991215 [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] " [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] 'Plagiarism' is an overreach. An LLM works a lot like the human brain does in terms of how it gathers its ideas for what to output, just like people do. When you write or create art, your ideas are a synthesis of everything you've experienced externally, directed and focused by the context of what it is you are looking to create/output. Nothing in your head is more original than what an LLM might produce. If you hadn't listened to [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] music composed by other composers for most of your life you wouldn't be able to generate a new composition and neither would an LLM. Are you plagiarizing when you write a new composition because you listened to famous composers and practically memorized their music over your training run (your life)? I'd say no. Plagiarism is more like the intentional act of copying work instead of doing your own synthesis. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] Is a painter who was trained on Van Gogh or Salvador Dali plagiarising those artists when their own work shows influences of their work? Meh, I dont think so [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] Is Greta Van Fleet plagiarising Led Zepplin? Some would say so out of distaste but it's not an actual fact. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] vincent-uden 4 days ago | parent | next [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] You actually have no idea if an LLM works "a lot like the human brain". No one does. It is still not clear if neural networks are capable of generalization to data outside of the training set in any capacity. Not just LLMs. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] If they could, why would we need these monstrous models, even for simple problems? [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] spottedmarley 4 days ago | root | parent | next [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] I didn't say that it works like a human brain mechanistically, I said that in terms of how it can only output variations of the underlying training data, it does, indeed resemble (or 'works like', in common parlance) how a brain works. Your confusion stems from your literal take on the term works like. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] The theory is sound. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] can3p 4 days ago | prev | next [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] A lot of artists are doing mix and match and they're fine because it's framed as artistic interpretation. Can the author point to examples of LLMs reproducing some original work without being explicitly asked to do so? If not, what's the argument? [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] I read the source code and like some patterns that I reuse in my later works. Is that plagiarism? If not, what's the difference with LLMs in this sense? [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] vincent-uden 4 days ago | prev [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] I for one am still baffled at just how OpenAI/Anthropic and the likes have gotten away with the biggest copyright infringements (or perhaps IP-theft, I'm not sure what the correct term is) in history (the data collection for training) without any legal ramifications. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] Even if it turns out to be perfectly legal I think a "retreat" to this position of LLM generation being Plagiarism (and therefore being uninteresting and morally bad) is quite a reasonable action. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] It also separates LLMs for searching through documents quite nicely from content generation which since I would be hard pressed to consider a "fuzzy search" as a form of plagiarism. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] verdverm 4 days ago | parent [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] If they buy the books, is it still theft? [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] vincent-uden 4 days ago | root | parent [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] For training purposes? I'd say no. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] The legal or ethical status of generated output is still up for discussion. I myself do not think neural networks can generalize and thus I would have to say that it still would be copyright infringement since its just regurgitation of input data. Just because I bought a book doesn't mean I get to re-publish it. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] verdverm 4 days ago | root | parent [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] they are not outputting or "regurgitating" like that, especially as the models get smaller, they just cannot encode that much information for reproduction, not so dissimilar from humans [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] maybe a couple of years back in the early experiments, but not today, if it were easy to get them to do it still, the activists would have by now [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] vincent-uden 4 days ago | root | parent [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] Yes they are. Just because the models have been overfit on the entirety of the internet doesn't mean they aren't in principle re-generating parts of their input data for the overwhelming majority of their output. Sure, stochasticity pushes the output into weird states sometimes, these are the states where the output is plain useless nonsense. Hallucinations, if you will. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] Our brains are entirely too small to recognize the patterns encoded from the gigantic training data set. But they are there nonetheless. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] This is easily seen if you try get *any* neural network to generalize to *any* non-trivial task (in this case, XOR for example I consider to be trivial). There are no non-flickering, stable vision models that can recognize a human/dog/cat/whatever in all the lighting settings we can without false positives. The models are only getting better because they are getting bigger and are provided with more data. This is *not* generalizati [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] on. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] verdverm 3 days ago | root | parent [] [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] > Yes they are. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] If you change the definition to be more flexible, sure, you can claim such things. But I will disagree because under this definition humans are largely just regurgitating too. Consider how evolution has been a similar training regime for organic systems. [07:26] schestowitz[TR2] reply" [07:26] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Slop Is Plagiarism | Hacker News [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49983680 [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] " [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] I will say I agree to the point of the post, people wanting status by taking photos with someone, or treating someone like a landmark in the background. [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] On the other hand, if you're reaching out to someone to make a connection and offer friendship, I think it is ok. A lot of people become famous, but isolated, and bringing them into YOUR circle with a picture is kind of nice." [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49982263 [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] " [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] Earlier discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49923056. [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] amcclure 5 days ago | parent [] [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] That's a different article, but thanks [07:27] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49963590 [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] " [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] From their guidelines: Some topics are more prone to heated debates than others. These topics include, among others, politics, religion/faith and ideologies. [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] I would suggest moderation of the heated debates rather than trying to police the themes - even the word ideology used to disqualify an argument is deeply ideological." [07:28] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Taking Photos with Richard Stallman (RMS) | Hacker News [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49947596 [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] "Can we stop linking to this horrible and unreadable website? [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] amcclure 5 days ago | parent | next [] [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] "Horrible and unreadable" more so describes The Register MS rather rather than Techrights. [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] reply [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] bitbasher 8 days ago | prev [] [07:28] schestowitz[TR2] Maybe I am in the minority, but I donf find Lundukes videos any worse than theo/t3.gg, primeagen or dhh." [07:29] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Red Hat Is Phased Out of Existence This Month Onwards | Hacker News [07:29] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Red Hat being phased out of existence? | Hacker News [07:29] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | Libera.chat Is an Agenda-Peddling Platform Run by Agenda-Peddling Individuals | Hacker News [07:29] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-news.ycombinator.com | In Case Anybody Still Believes Microsoft Lunduke Cares About GNU/Linux | Hacker News ● Oct 12 [08:25] schestowitz[TR2] "Bill Gates Warns AI Could Cause a Billion Deaths as He Seeks Meeting With Trump to Discuss Regulation | IBTimes UK" [08:25] schestowitz[TR2] x https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bill-gates-ai-billion-deaths-trump-oversight-1824917 [08:25] schestowitz[TR2] # bill sez [08:25] -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Bill Gates Warns AI Could Cause a Billion Deaths as He Seeks Meeting With Trump to Discuss Regulation | IBTimes UK [08:34] schestowitz[TR2]
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