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schestowitz[TR]http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/epo-tries-to-have-its-cake-and-eat-it.html?showComment=1681328999433#c4532177324581516545Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]Insisting on application changes, without legal basis (at least according to some boards), that may cost applicants scope in national courts is an utterly shameful state. <br /><br />The EPO does not consider equivalents, as they are in no position to do so.Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/04/construing-claims-to-include-technical.html?showComment=1681323812438#c1332689099095876905Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]Ganz kurz, Daniel.  My suggested text for Question...</a></h5><blockquote>Ganz kurz, Daniel.  My suggested text for Question 1 runs to two lines only. The self-indulgent remainder of my post was not intended to be part of the Question. I regret that my IT skills fall short of making my posts clear for readers.Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/04/construing-claims-to-include-technical.html?showComment=1681310974193#c8430959422598411327Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]Dear Max Drei,<br /><br />Your comment is certainly interesting, but it is not sure at all whether the applicant knew of E1 when the application was drafted. <br /><br />In the description as filed, there is no background art mentioned at all. <br /><br />In the patent, D1=WO-A1-02/03757 (X,Y in the ISR) was mentioned as prior art. <br /><br />D1 supported a novelty objection at the beginning of examination. During examination, the Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]ED added D5=WO-A1-00/53094 to raise an objection of inventive step with D1 as CPA. With new claims a patent was then granted. <br /><br />D5 can be found when comparing the documents in the ISR with those quoted on the front page of the patent. <br /><br />As the examiner found an X,Y document as well as D2=US-A1- 2004 252 854 (Y), D3=WO-A1-2009/138895 (A) and D4=EP-A1- 0 026 247 (Y,A), it is most probable that the examiner stopped Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]the search. How D5 came into the procedure cannot be determined. It could well come from another member of the ED. <br /><br />There was thus no chance for the ED to examine the application with E1 as prior art. <br /><br />The patent was maintained in amended form and the board considered that claim1 as maintained was lacking IS over E1 on the basis of partial problems. It is difficult to follow you when you consider the reasoning Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]of the Board under Art 56 to be “tortuous”.   <br /><br />When looking at published decisions of the BA following oppositions it is noticeable to see that in nearly 90% of the cases the opponents bring forward patent literature which was available in the search files of the EPO. Even Art 54(3) prior art, sometimes from the same inventor. <br /><br />It is also noticeable that in most than half the cases the decision of the OD, wApr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]hatever it might be, is set aside by a BA. <br /><br />EP-B1-1214337 should read EP-B1-1314337.<br />Apr 13 02:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | EPO tries to have its cake and eat it on claim interpretation (T 0169/20) - The IPKatApr 13 02:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Construing the claims to include technical effects mentioned in the description (T 1924/20) - The IPKatApr 13 02:53
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Construing the claims to include technical effects mentioned in the description (T 1924/20) - The IPKatApr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]"Dear Max Drei,<br /><br />No problem if you find your formulation of question 1 better. <br /><br />I would however refrain using in a referral to the EBA an expression stemming from the US. <br /><br />I would however like a reply not resembling that given in G 2/21 (plausibility) which does not really help.<br />Apr 13 02:53
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schestowitz[TR]"Santa, the viewpoint of third parties is indeed im...</a></h5><blockquote>Santa, the viewpoint of third parties is indeed important. I share your pain when it comes to determining FTO, especially in view of the UKSC's case law on equivalents.<br /><br />However, even if the UKSC's decision could be viewed as having swung the pendulum too far in favour of patentees, this does <b>not even remotely</b> justify what appears to be an exApr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]treme overreaction that swings the pendulum too far in the other direction. That is, it is perfectly possible for there to be serious problems with <b>both</b> the case law on equivalents <b>and</b> the EPO's practice on adaptation of the description. Remember, two wrongs do not make a right.<br /><br />There are several reasons why I see the EPO's practice as an extreme and unjustified overreaction.<br /><br />Firstly, it is simplyApr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR] not the EPO's business to police the determination (by national courts) of extent of protection. Indeed, it is an overreach for them to even try.<br /><br />Secondly, the EPO's practice risks achieving results that run directly contrary to the principles set out in the Protocol to Article 69 EPC. That is, they risk limiting the scope of protection to the &quot;strict, literal meaning of the wording used in the claims&quot;, and posApr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]sibly even to a <i>narrower</i> scope that that, depending upon how good a job the ED has done with interpreting the language of the claims.<br /><br />Thirdly, if there are problems with the jurisprudence of national courts, then the best way of addressing this would either be through dialogue with those courts or through new legislation. Frankly, attempting to &quot;fix&quot; the case law problem through perverting both the EPO's Apr 13 02:53
schestowitz[TR]practice and its mission is both lazy and undemocratic.<br /><br />I think that it should be perfectly possible to fix the current case law problems by coming up with a solution that strikes an acceptable balance between the various competing interests. What the EPO has dreamed up is most definitely <b>not</b> such a balance.Apr 13 02:53
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schestowitz[TR]"Agreed. But Question 1 is for me not free from amb...</a></h5><blockquote>Agreed. But Question 1 is for me not free from ambiguity, I might prefer:<br /><br />1) Can it ever be legitimate at the EPO to invoke Art 69 EPC and its Protocol for any purpose other than an enquiry into the extent of protection under Art 123(3) EPC?  If so, and in particular:<br /><br />Every jurisdiction pays lip service to the theory of construing a pateApr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]nt just like any other document, the reader being mindful of the desirability of achieving internal consistency, including interpreting the claim in the context of the description. This new Decision makes a thoughtful attempt to spell out what that means, in practice. But its &quot;sort of fall-back&quot; formulation to define the role of the description strikes me as not much better than &quot;hand waving&quot; and leaves me less tApr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]han fully convinced. But who can do better, I wonder.<br /><br />What about that old US formulation &quot;insolubly ambiguous&quot;? If the claim is that, then it is permissible to turn to the description to resolve the ambiguity. Otherwise, not. <br /><br />For example, who remembers the notorious CAFC case Chef America, with its claim to baking dough to 400°F (resulting in slabs of charcoal instead of loaves of bread). Intended, Apr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]of course, and evident from the description, was baking with the oven set at 400°F. But the claim was clear and down it went, much to the chagrin of the owner and their patent attorney.  Also in the USA there is a nice case that turned on an &quot;Oxford comma&quot; so it is not exclusively the EPO that goes in for &quot;catastrophic comma&quot; cases.Apr 13 02:54
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schestowitz[TR]http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/04/construing-claims-to-include-technical.html?showComment=1681299464564#c3355620343827726158Apr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]"Patent practitioners seem to believe jurisprudence...</a></h5><blockquote>Patent practitioners seem to believe jurisprudence theory does not apply to them and patent laws. However there is a wider context, and in that context there is acceptance of the need for uncertainty in the system in order for justice to be done. More laws and more case law are not always the solution, see:<br />https://www.supremecourt.uk/docs/speech_111011.Apr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]pdf<br />The existence of uncertainty in the use of the description or Art 69 or the Protocol, or the defining of the technical effect also makes it more likely justice will be done in litigationApr 13 02:54
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schestowitz[TR]"It will be interesting to see whether in inf...</a></h5><blockquote>&quot;It will be interesting to see whether in infringement actions, a similarly hard line will be taken against the attempts of alleged infringers to narrow the claims in arguments of non-infringement.&quot;<br /><br />Interesting for sure but since when did the EPO ever concern itself with infringement or real world applications of the patents it grants (or doesnApr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]'t).<br />Apr 13 02:54
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schestowitz[TR]Rather than discussing at length whether the description should be adapted to the claims before grant or maintenance in amended form, it seems better to clarify the use of the description under Art 69 and its protocol as we are in presence of two diverging lines of case law. <br /><br />According to the first line of case law, Art 69 and its protocol have to be taken into account during prosecution at the EPO, is represented by T 14Apr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]73/19 which referred to T 1167/13 and T 2773/18. This line of case law goes back to T 16/87.<br /><br />According to the second line of case law, Art 69 and its protocol should not be taken into account during prosecution at the EPO, is represented by T 169/20 and T 821/20, the latter referring to T169/20 and T 1127/16.<br />According to T 1279/04, confirmed by T 1778/17, application of the principles of claim interpretation as laidApr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR] down in Art 69 and the Protocol is to be limited to the determination of the extent of protection which was primarily of concern in infringement proceedings or in opposition under Art 123(3).<br />According this second line of case law, there is no justification for relying on the description to restrict the scope of the claim by excluding interpretations which are both reasonable and technically sensible in the technical context oApr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]f the patent. <br /><br />In order to clarify the situation it would be interesting to hear the EBA on the following questions:<br /><br />1)Should, in procedures before the EPO Art 69 and its protocol exclusively be used when determining the extent of protection under Art 123(3)? <br /><br />2) Can Art 69 and its protocol be used <br />- when determining whether a claim <br />    - contains added subject-matter under Art 123(2) orApr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR] <br />    - lacks novelty<br />- to assess inventive step, for instance by construing the claims to incorporate a functional effect from the description<br /><br />3) If the answer to question 2 is positive which conditions should apply?<br />Apr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]Given the potency of E1 as an attack on validity, ...</a></h5><blockquote>Given the potency of E1 as an attack on validity, and the tortuous Art 56 EPC reasoning of the Board, my thought is that this case might have turned out much more happily for the patent owner had the drafter of the patent application first studied the disclosure of E1 and discussed it with the inventor before setting pen to paper, for then the technical effectApr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]s and the OTP relative to E1 would have been different, and more persuasive, in the application as filed.<br /><br />After all, it is not at all plausible to put forward as an invention the mere potting of circuitry in order to protect it from ambient humidity.<br /><br />Curious too is how the EPO failed to cite E1 in its search report. After all, E1 (73 pages of it) went on to issue as EP-B1-1214337.Apr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]Thanks Proof of the Pudding. Completely agree your point is valid, but you are shifting the burden to third parties (who I often need to advise on FTO). I am not saying the EPO is perfect, but necessarily they must balance the applicant's needs versus third party needs. Your list of 9 points are all very good questions, but, respectfully, they are pro-applicant. I too find amending the description frustrating and potentially dangeroApr 13 02:54
schestowitz[TR]us, but I can also see the other side of the argument and the surprising importance the description can have in litigation. There is also a good side to what the EPO is trying to do, although perhaps they are doing it in a disjointed way. My intention is not to disagree with you, but just to give another view on this quite important issue.Apr 13 02:54
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Construing the claims to include technical effects mentioned in the description (T 1924/20) - The IPKatApr 13 02:55
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes- ( status 404 @ https://www.supremecourt.uk/docs/speech_111011 )Apr 13 02:55
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schestowitz[TR]My response is in http://techrights.org/2023/04/13/standard-life-protecting-perpetrators-of-fraud/ and there will be a lot more coming.Apr 13 06:17
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-techrights.org | Standard Life Covers Up Its Role in Pension Fraud, Lies to the Victims | TechrightsApr 13 06:17
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schestowitz[TR]                                    <h5><a href="https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-w-coding-kit">Raspberry Pi Pico W Powers Electronics Coding Kit Crowdfunder</a></h5>Apr 13 08:50
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schestowitz[TR]                                        <p>Picoder is a portable all-in-one learning platform with the Raspberry Pi Pico W at its heart. The Raspberry Pi Pico W is removable, meaning it can be upgraded when / if a newer model is ever released. Coming in a plastic case, Picoder features a range of components embedded into a large PCB. However, this isn't a new idea. Seeed has done something similar for the Arduino, and recently we reApr 13 08:50
schestowitz[TR]viewed Pico Bricks, which had embedded components. What is different with Picoder are the component choices.</p>Apr 13 08:50
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.tomshardware.com | Raspberry Pi Pico W Powers Electronics Coding Kit Crowdfunder | Tom's HardwareApr 13 08:50
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schestowitz[TR]                                    <h5><a href="https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/04/11/a-very-nimble-diy-hexapod-robot/">A very nimble DIY hexapod robot</a></h5>Apr 13 08:51
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schestowitz[TR]                                        <p>While robots can get around on two legs (or even none), it is difficult to get a smooth and efficient gait. Moving up to four legs improves the situation a bit, but each of those legs will still need multiple joints and careful balance for the robot to move in a stable manner. Once you increase the leg count to six, you can achieve some very good gaits, which is why hexapod robots are so poApr 13 08:51
schestowitz[TR]pular. To experiment with six legs, Aecert Robotics built this nimble DIY hexapod robot from scratch.</p>Apr 13 08:51
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.arduino.cc | A very nimble DIY hexapod robot | Arduino BlogApr 13 08:51
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schestowitz[TR]                                    <h5><a href="https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/12/sony-invests-raspberry-pi-promote-sensory-ai-development-edge/">Sony invests in Raspberry Pi to promote sensory AI development at the edge</a></h5>Apr 13 08:52
schestowitz[TR]                                    <blockquote>Apr 13 08:52
schestowitz[TR]                                        <p>Raspberry Pi is an extremely small-form-factor computer with PC-like power that can easily fit into the palm of a hand. It was originally designed as an educational platform for computer science learners to understand programming, coding and computing. However, it has also become popular as a prototyping platform for software developers, especially those building so-called internet of thingApr 13 08:52
schestowitz[TR]s devices that sit at the network edge.</p>Apr 13 08:52
schestowitz[TR]                                        <p>This is the community that Sony is trying to target through its partnership with Raspberry Pi. Its AITRIOS offering is a development platform for AI models that are powered by cameras and other sensors and operate at the edge, in low-power environments.</p>Apr 13 08:52
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Sony invests in Raspberry Pi to promote sensory AI development at the edge - SiliconANGLEApr 13 08:52
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schestowitz[TR]                            <h5><a href="https://blog.jonudell.net/2023/04/11/migrating-mastodon-lists/">Migrating Mastodon lists</a></h5>Apr 13 08:55
schestowitz[TR]                            <blockquote>Apr 13 08:55
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>My original Mastodon account was on mastodon.social. I chose it because it’s the largest instance, it’s operated by the developers of the service, and it runs the reference implementation of the software. I wanted to experience the fediverse, initially, as most people do, then consider whether to migrate to another server — and if so, to which one.</p>Apr 13 08:55
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>Last week I migrated to social.coop which, like cosocial.ca, it what Darius Kazemi calls a community-owned independent social media site. I don’t think the acronym COISMS will fly, but the business model is just what I’ve been looking for. I don’t want to use “free” services that make me the product they sell. I want to pay for a service that’s funded by my dollars, not by my data. ThatApr 13 08:55
schestowitz[TR]’s why I bailed on Gmail years ago, in favor of Fastmail, and it’s why I’m happy to spend $10/month — the price of a couple of cappucinos — to support the people who keep the lights on at social.coop and maintain civility.</p>Apr 13 08:55
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>The instructions for migrating from one server offer two paths: Profile redirect and Profile move. I chose the former, because I assumed I would retain API access to mastodon.social post-migration, and thus have the option to use Steampipe to query both accounts. Why do that? You can’t migrate your posts from the old server to the new one, only your followers and (optionally) your follows, bookmaApr 13 08:55
schestowitz[TR]rks, blocks, and mutes. Steampipe can connect to two different Mastodon servers at the same time, so I figured I could run queries against both.</p>Apr 13 08:55
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.jonudell.net | Migrating Mastodon lists – Jon UdellApr 13 08:55
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schestowitz[TR]                            <h5><a href="https://box.matto.nl/compiling-emacs.html">Compiling Emacs</a></h5>Apr 13 08:56
schestowitz[TR]                            <blockquote>Apr 13 08:56
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>Being Emacs, there is probably more than one way to compile it, and I don't know if the way I compile Emacs is the best way, but it works and has never failed.</p>Apr 13 08:56
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>Before you start, make sure you have the right dependencies installed. The (not very big) list of packages to install is, of course, for every operating system different.</p>Apr 13 08:56
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Compiling Emacs - box.matto.nlApr 13 08:56
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schestowitz[TR]                            <h5><a href="https://blog.powerdns.com/2023/04/12/first-alpha-release-of-powerdns-recursor-4-9-0/">First Alpha Release of PowerDNS Recursor 4.9.0</a></h5>Apr 13 08:56
schestowitz[TR]                            <blockquote>Apr 13 08:56
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>Compared to the previous major (4.8) release of PowerDNS Recursor, this release contains the following major changes: [...]</p>Apr 13 08:56
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-blog.powerdns.com | First Alpha Release of PowerDNS Recursor 4.9.0 | PowerDNS BlogApr 13 08:56
schestowitz[TR]https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230412-macron-kissing-xi-s-ass-trump-says-after-taiwan-commentsApr 13 09:02
-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.france24.com | Macron 'kissing Xi's ass', Trump says after Taiwan commentsApr 13 09:02
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schestowitz[TR]                            <h5><a href="https://scheerpost.com/2023/04/12/daniel-ellsberg-has-foiled-those-who-want-him-confined-to-the-past/">Daniel Ellsberg Has Foiled Those Who Want Him Confined to the Past</a></h5>Apr 13 10:51
schestowitz[TR]                            <blockquote>Apr 13 10:51
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>After working inside the U.S. war machinery, Ellsberg became its highest-ranking operative to opt out — bravely throwing sand in its gears by revealing the top-secret Pentagon Papers, at the risk of spending the rest of his life in prison. The 7,000-page study exposed lies about U.S. policies in Vietnam told by four successive presidents. During the 52 years since then, Ellsberg has continually pApr 13 10:51
schestowitz[TR]rovided key information and cogent analysis of pretexts for U.S. wars. And he has focused on what they’ve actually meant in human terms.</p>Apr 13 10:51
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Daniel Ellsberg Has Foiled Those Who Want Him Confined to the Past - scheerpost.comApr 13 10:51
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schestowitz[TR]                            <h5><a href="https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg58x8/texas-officials-would-rather-close-library-than-stock-books-they-dont-like">Texas Officials Would Rather Close Library Than Stock Books They Don’t Like</a></h5>Apr 13 10:55
schestowitz[TR]                            <blockquote>Apr 13 10:55
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>County commissioners in Llano, Texas have signaled they would rather close an entire library system than comply with a court order to stop censoring books.</p>Apr 13 10:55
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>On Monday, Llano County Commissioners called for a special meeting where the main agenda item is to determine whether to “continue or cease operations” of the Llano County Library System “pending further guidance from the Federal Courts.”</p>Apr 13 10:55
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.vice.com | Texas Officials Would Rather Close Library Than Stock Books They Don’t LikeApr 13 10:55
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schestowitz[TR]                            <h5><a href="https://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/wang-dongsheng-04112023170559.html">County chief who oversaw destruction of Tibetan Buddhist sites moved to new position</a></h5>Apr 13 10:56
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schestowitz[TR]                                <p>Wang had earlier overseen a campaign of destruction at the sprawling Larung Gar Buddhist Academy in Drago in a move that saw thousands of monks and nuns expelled and homes destroyed.</p>Apr 13 10:56
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.rfa.org | County chief who oversaw destruction of Tibetan Buddhist sites moved to new position — Radio Free AsiaApr 13 10:56
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schestowitz[TR]                            <h5><a href="https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/linkedin-is-the-worst-form-of-social-media-heres-why/">LinkedIn is the worst form of social media: Here’s why</a></h5>Apr 13 10:59
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schestowitz[TR]                                <p>Recent studies have revealed nearly half of LinkedIn’s users as prone to these feelings of negativity, evidence that the effects of the app’s toxic hustle culture is experienced by the bulk of users. Despite these sentiments, however, many individuals feel that LinkedIn is harder to ‘quit’ than traditional social media. With nearly 85% of jobs currently being filled through networking, LinkApr 13 10:59
schestowitz[TR]edIn’s web of connectivity is getting progressively harder to escape.</p>Apr 13 10:59
schestowitz[TR]                                <p>This perceived necessity of LinkedIn as a “job search assist” has become the gold standard of the app’s interface, trapping users in an endless scroll under the veil of professional development. Correspondingly, LinkedIn’s revenue increased by 26.2% in 2022, currently resting at a cool $14.5 billion. The platform’s reliance on monetizing user data and leveraging connections to generate prApr 13 10:59
schestowitz[TR]ofits results in a direct commodification of interpersonal relationships. Ads and sponsored content are also designed to match users’ job aspirations, causing even the pursuit of career ambitions to be exploited as an opportunity for profit.</p>Apr 13 10:59
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-TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.michigandaily.com | Linkedin is destroying AmericaApr 13 10:59
schestowitz[TR] Quick reminder: Filing of the RfR SAP5 salary and pension adjustment templates still possibleApr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]Dear colleagues,Apr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]In this earlier publication we advised staff to file a Request for Review on the Salary Adjustment that was implemented with the January 2023 salary slips.Apr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]We would like to remind you that it is still possible to file these RfR templates: habitually, the salary slip is seen as the implementation of a decision, and as such the time limit for challenging this implementation starts running from this date.Apr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]As the January salary slips were made available on the 26th of January, one can still safely file the Request for Review until Wednesday, 26th of April 2023.Apr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]Please follow these instructions:Apr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]    Select the right template (active staff or pensioner).Apr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]    Fill in the first page and the last page of the Word template with your personal data and your signature.Apr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]    Convert the completed request for review into a PDF file.Apr 13 15:01
schestowitz[TR]    Retrieve your salary slip or pension statement for January 2023.Apr 13 15:01
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